Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[DanaK]

I was surprised Emma told Anna the details of the lab break-in. I assumed the NDA would have prevented that

[jacourt]

Sasha will move into Willows place. 

[ciarra]

2 hours ago, JMO said:

Carly reminding Willow that she's not Wiley's bio mom. 

Could Willow remind Carly that Nelle was her sister, making Wiley her nephew? And maybe if Carly had lifted a finger (no, not that one), she might have prevented Nelle from falling to her (alleged) death?

[YaddaYadda]

5 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Could Willow remind Carly that Nelle was her sister, making Wiley her nephew? And maybe if Carly had lifted a finger (no, not that one), she might have prevented Nelle from falling to her (alleged) death?

No. Because Willow has no use for Nelle. She was pretty insulted when Carly compared her to Nelle.

Carly is really an acquired taste. She wasn't wrong on some of the things she said, but this show always goes for the low hanging fruit. Willow is the only mother Wylie has ever known. She is his mother, full stop.

[dubbel zout]

42 minutes ago, DanaK said:

I was surprised Emma told Anna the details of the lab break-in. I assumed the NDA would have prevented that

At the beginning of those scenes, Emma said something about "thanks to the WSB" that she was able to be honest, which I think was in reference to Anna having the unsealed arrest records. If Anna has all the information anyway, the NDA doesn't mean much.

Later, when talking to Gio, Emma did refuse to give any details, so she is abiding by it with everyone else. 

[TVbitch]

For a brief moment I thought Emma was trying to get Anna to tell her about the crimes she's committed in the name of doing what she thought was right, because Emma is working Anna for either the WSB or the DVX. ..but I guess not. 

Joss is so blasé and unconvincing as a spy. I keep waiting for her to just shrug and go, "wait, why the fook am I doing this?!"

Sorry show, but I can't, I don't, and I won't stop rooting against your beloved Carly.

[Daisy]

i'm sorry. this storyline would be so much better if they simply temp-casted Michael because this is getting beyond stupid.  first of all. 

Second of all. if i were Johns Hopkins I'd be pissed off that this stupid show kept throwing my burn care unit under the bus for some made up clinic in Germany. (also Carly, you chose the made up clinic because you wanted your son pretty when he woke up vs getting actual care. so you might want to shut up). 

Third of all. how is Carly not dead from the lightning? Like legit. I don't care if we're supposed to hate Drew and Willow, but to stand there and be all "well Wiley isn't your kid. Michael let you have him" as if he's a puppy. and the thing is if someone righly said that about Sonny and it would be OMG. SONNY LOVES MICHAEL. 

lol Drew's "I'm sure AJ would have something to say about that. okay true but once again anything AJ is quickly swept under the rug. And once again (because it's been what? 20++ years who cares bout what Carly and Sonny did constantly to that man). 

I need it to come out like. yesterday that Michael screwed Sasha first and got her knocked up before Willow got on her back for Drew. because this "Michael is such a good man" crap needs to stop. (ALSO i need Willow to find out that Michael covered up the death of a federal agent. because I'm pretty sure whatever issues Drew has doesn't trump that). 

[Sake614]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

3 hours ago, JMO said:

Carly reminding Willow that she's not Wiley's bio mom.

I'm with Willow here—that's one of the grossest things Carly has ever said. Baby hoarder extraordinaire Carly can fuck off with that crap.

And all the more reason to never, EVER tell her Sasha is carrying Michael’s child. 

15 minutes ago, Daisy said:

i need Willow to find out that Michael covered up the death of a federal agent. because I'm pretty sure whatever issues Drew has doesn't trump that).

I would LOVE for that to come out, but it won’t because that would implicate SONNY. And we can’t have nice things.

[sashabear21]

26 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Second of all. if i were Johns Hopkins I'd be pissed off that this stupid show kept throwing my burn care unit under the bus for some made up clinic in Germany. (also Carly, you chose the made up clinic because you wanted your son pretty when he woke up vs getting actual care. so you might want to shut up). 
 

I have some former co-workers that work there and I’d ask but pretty sure their response would be, “General Whoospital?” and also I’d have to admit to watching this show. 

[rur]

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Joss asking Vaughn how she should become the prof's RA, it reminded me of Girl Reporter asking everyone else to do her job for her.

I was wondering about that, too, since it's the middle or last month of a term, and being a RA is a paid position that grad students compete to get, but undergrad Joss will just become the new assistant? I guess the writers have never gone to college.

This super secret mission could have been slightly more believable if she had been told to enroll in the class next term . . .  

 

Edited Friday at 11:06 PM by rur

[Cheyanne11]

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

how is Carly not dead from the lightning? Like legit. I don't care if we're supposed to hate Drew and Willow, but

No buts--two things can be true at once.  

Carly absolutely is a shit person for that comment about Willow not being Wiley's mother.  But Drew is also a shit person for the way he's been manipulating Willow every step of the way and for the whole crypt business.  And Willow is maybe the least shit person of the three, but she's absolutely brainwashed by Drew and needs a wake-up call.

It also grossly dawned on me that Drew was in a room with three women he's slept with--a daughter, her mother, and her mother-in-law.  

[PatsyandEddie]

🤮

[mason86]

On 4/8/2025 at 8:07 AM, GHScorpiosRule said:

Never liked her and she's been an awful character since the latest recast. So no bemoaning from me about why the show is doing this.

Fuck you, writers. Even if Jake "died" when he was a toddler,  and never got around to adopting Cameron, the dialogue should have been "The Mother of my children..."

And the only reason she's apologizing is because Lucky knows what she did, and she thinks she's safe from anyone else finding out, so apologizing not because she had an epiphany of how awful she's been.

My eyes rolled so hard at her telling Lucky "she didn't mean it" when she's been dreaming and talking about killing Ava, asking Mooby and Jaysus to do it, and then the self-serving she knows what it's like to lose a child and she would never, NEVER do that to anyone, not even AVA! When she's been bloviating that Ava also deserves to lose a child like Ava "stole" her child from her.

Come again? 

She'll never forgive him 

[GHScorpiosRule]

I rolled my eyes and laughed in disbelief when Emma said how her parents “always do the right thing” and stay inside the lines. Does she even know her parents or their pasts? I know, I know, it’s plot! because neither Robin or Patrick are on the show.

And this is my shocked face at learning Show ripped off a plot from season four’s original Beverly Hills, 90210 when Brenda got involved with students who were protesting against cruelty and testing on animals. The difference being one of the group was an undercover Fed, and knew Brenda wasn’t guilty of setting the place on fire or bombing it or whatever.

 

The only good thing today, for me, was Alexis tuning in to the fact that The Deranged One was making up with Molly out of guilt. Oh and the other, Diane laying out what charges she would face.

 

[Artsda]

I laughed out loud of Carly claiming she'd never keep father away from her kids. Lol seriously lightening should have striked her. 

Alexis really needs to listen to Diane. Kristina fell out a window, her baby died she almost died, Michael almost died and Sam did die all while Kristina is post partum.  She needs some more help. 

Ava also does not deserve a dime. She should have been locked up for life for things she did sanely. 

This second time Drews medical file is getting brought up.  Hopefully something is found. 

Edited Yest. at 01:41 AM by Artsda

[ciarra]

9 minutes ago, Artsda said:

This second time Drews medical file is getting brought up.  Hopefully something is found. 

How about a(nother) ethics violation, snooping into medical records for a patient that is not in your care?  People get fired for that.

[KerleyQ]

I'm not surprised that they dared to have Carly utter "I would never keep my kids from their fathers," but I am shocked that they let anyone invoke AJ to dispute that straight up bullshit.  Can GH borrow SK from B&B for an episode just to have AJ haunt the fuck out of her dreams after that bullshit?  And then the sanctimonious "how will you explain when the kids are older how you kept them from their father?"  I so wish Willow would have responded "I don't know, how did you explain it to Michael and Joss?"  

Also, not for nothing, but Willow is not fucking keeping the kids from their father.  Michael is overseas in a clinic, recovering from the damage he suffered at the hands of enemies of the father Carly chose for him. (Bonus points for Willow getting to point that out). The kids literally can't be with him, and she and Michael were both clear, before that happened, that they had no interest in keeping the kids away from each other.  Since Jason is supposed to be the voice of reason, why is he not pointing out to Carly that, as of right now, Willow isn't keeping the kids away from Michael?  Just because she moved in with Drew, doesn't mean she has no intention of splitting custody with Michael when he returns and is able to take care of them. Carly is just stirring up shit to stir up shit, and she's going to end up causing a custody battle and headache for Michael because she can't let go of her need to control everyone and everything. 

As I've already said in another comment, that "Wiley isn't technically your child" shit was vile. Wiley is her child, period.  Yes, Michael decided to invite Willow to be his mother, but that doesn't mean that she isn't his real mother.  She's legally his mother, and she's been his mother for the vast majority of his life. 

[CeChase]

It's very strange that they have Portia getting all of Drew's medical records, even back to when he was Jake Doe. I think it was Jake Doe right?  Anyway, I guess that is foreshadowing something pretty big.  Like that he's not Drew at all, I don't know.  The thing about that is, who is he going to be?  Because as someone else pointed out, he has slept with all three women in that room.  That would bring up some very sticky issues.  

I thought the scenes between Anna and Emma were some of the best we've seen in a long while. 

[dubbel zout]

The whole Jake Doe/Jakeson/Drew mess is one I am more than happy to leave in the past. I DON'T CARE if someone finds something. Tthe way this show rolls, Drew suing Portia for HIPAA viollations will make her the victim.

Edited Yest. at 01:01 PM by dubbel zout

[Artsda]

11 hours ago, ciarra said:

How about a(nother) ethics violation, snooping into medical records for a patient that is not in your care?  People get fired for that.

On a show where Sonny and Joss recently killed people point blank and had no repercussions at all, ethics violation is very low on list. 

I do hope they're setting up Drew Cain really isn't a Quartermaine, take all the family money back. 

 

[Winston Wolfe]

45 minutes ago, Artsda said:

12 hours ago, ciarra said:

How about a(nother) ethics violation, snooping into medical records for a patient that is not in your care?  People get fired for that.

On a show where Sonny and Joss recently killed people point blank and had no repercussions at all, ethics violation is very low on list. 

I do hope they're setting up Drew Cain really isn't a Quartermaine, take all the family money back. 

Question: as co-Chief of Staff, wouldn't Portia have the right to look at the medical records of any patient?

Also, as @ciarra pointed out, I think the payoff will be that Drew isn't actually a Q, and will lose the family inheritance. Tracy will absolutely LOVE that.

[nilyank]

47 minutes ago, Artsda said:

I do hope they're setting up Drew Cain really isn't a Quartermaine, take all the family money back. 

 

It was mostly Jason's money which he used to buy Aurora from Julian. From the Qs he got ELQ shares.

[Cheyanne11]

They're heading to somewhere with this medical records situation and it's got to be that he's not really Drew Cain.  I guess the question will be if he knew this and is a con man or if that will be his ~redemption arc.

[GHScorpiosRule]

I will say this, and maybe it’s just me, but the actress who plays Willow looked energized and excited in her scenes with Cujo-like, she wanted to see if she would actually slap her. Too bad Jaysus pulled her back. It would have harkened back to good days of soap! Though y’all know my favorite is Robin hauling back and slapping Cujo back in 2005!😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

And if Show is going to undo Drew as a Quartermaine, please also undo Sasha as a Scorpio, thankyouverramooch.

[driver18]

30 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

 

And if Show is going to undo Drew as a Quartermaine, please also undo Sasha as a Scorpio, thankyouverramooch.

I love Sasha as a Scorpio. Many thought we wouldn't see follow-through, but we continue to see her with Maxie, Felicia, Mac, and even Emma on occasion. I know that the current weird can't let anyone know Michael is the father storyline isn't doing her favors, but I still like Sasha. 

Thursdays ep showed why. In the midst of some of that stupid storyline, we had her gentle conversation with Jason where she talked to him about his then vs now with the Qs that was lovely and much needed. And Sasha's character works best like that.

And, dangit, I continue to really like her and Jason.

[YaddaYadda]

1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

They're heading to somewhere with this medical records situation and it's got to be that he's not really Drew Cain.  I guess the question will be if he knew this and is a con man or if that will be his ~redemption arc.

They are. And regardless of where they are headed, Alexis needs to get Scout the hell away from him.

[Bringonthedrama]

15 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

As I've already said in another comment, that "Wiley isn't technically your child" shit was vile. Wiley is her child, period.  Yes, Michael decided to invite Willow to be his mother, but that doesn't mean that she isn't his real mother.  She's legally his mother, and she's been his mother for the vast majority of his life. 

Too bad Tracy, who unlike Drew has witnessed the entire history and knew the Jones Family long before Carly did, was not present for that comment. She could and hopefully would counter it with, "So you're admitting that AJ, not Sonny, was Michael's true father, and you don't actually feel that Bobbie was Lucas Jones' mother? I'll be sure to let Lucas know the next time I see him. I feel sorry for the late Virginia Benson, that in your eyes she wasn't truly your mother. Both Virginia and Bobbie deserved a helluva lot better than you for a daughter."

I'm going to be overseas for the next week and a half. Somehow, I don't think I'll be missing any 'must-see TV' from this Show.

Edited 22 hours ago by Bringonthedrama

[ciarra]

1 hour ago, driver18 said:

I love Sasha as a Scorpio.

Meh.  She has the acting range of a houseplant.

[tessaray]

4 hours ago, Artsda said:

On a show where Sonny and Joss recently killed people point blank and had no repercussions at all, ethics violation is very low on list.

It hurts defending Joss but shooting Cyrus was mostly self-defense and if not for Brennan would have been quickly been sorted out by the authorities. Especially in PC. (Yes, she was in his place illegally but he was an ex-con 3 times her size and coming at her with an ax.)

[Sake614]

6 minutes ago, tessaray said:

It hurts defending Joss but shooting Cyrus was mostly self-defense and if not for Brennan would have been quickly been sorted out by the authorities. Especially in PC. (Yes, she was in his place illegally but he was an ex-con 3 times her size and coming at her with an ax.)

Not sure about that. She brought a loaded gun to his house. I don’t buy that she didn’t plan to use it given the opportunity. 

[tessaray]

46 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Not sure about that. She brought a loaded gun to his house. I don’t buy that she didn’t plan to use it given the opportunity. 

As protection against a suspected serial killer. Considering how much her hands shook holding the gun, I don't think killing him was first on her todo list. And she was in shock afterwards. 

YMMV, obviously. But if not for Brennan's maneuvering, the odds are that the PCPD, the DA's office* and the citizens of Port Charles would have stood in line to thank her for ridding the soap world of Cyrus Renault. Joss is a dolt for not trusting the system but growing up Sonny-adjacent really screwed up her reasoning ability. 

* Unless there was a plot point to drag it out so that Diane could get some extra screen time. 

Edited 21 hours ago by tessaray

[KerleyQ]

5 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

Question: as co-Chief of Staff, wouldn't Portia have the right to look at the medical records of any patient?

No. She is still obligated to only access records for medical purposes for a patient she is treating or consulting on. Accessing medical records for personal reasons is not allowed by anyone working at the hospital, even the chief of staff. 

[Winston Wolfe]

4 hours ago, ciarra said:

6 hours ago, driver18 said:

I love Sasha as a Scorpio.

Meh.  She has the acting range of a houseplant.

Moss takes exception to that comment.

[nilyank]

11 minutes ago, Winston Wolfe said:

Moss takes exception to that comment.

Moss has been a beloved fixture for at least a decade.

[Grinaldi]

7 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Moss has been a beloved fixture for at least a decade

I'm shocked moss has lasted this long without a story where we find out it was the secret child of one of Aunt Ruby's houseplants or something.

[KittyQ]

On 4/11/2025 at 4:05 PM, rur said:

I was wondering about that, too, since it's the middle or last month of a term, and being a RA is a paid position that grad students compete to get, but undergrad Joss will just become the new assistant? I guess the writers have never gone to college.

This super secret mission could have been slightly more believable if she had been told to enroll in the class next term . . .  

 

Added emphasis - this would explain a lot. Normally, I wouldn't suggest that someone who didn't go to college doesn't have knowledge and experience, but they don't seem to have much in the way of "lived experience" or "work knowledge" either.

[KittyQ]

Hilarious that Carly seems to think that she has the ammunition to keep Willow from ever seeing her kids again once Michael gets back. Compared to the many, many, many bad acts that she, Michael, and Sonny have done and haven't had to give up any of their kids, a little thing like stepping out on your husband with his uncle shouldn't make any difference.

I was impressed with Diane telling Alexis the bitter truth about Kristina. The part where she pointed out that Alexis is so worried about Kristina that she just "cleans up" after everything she does wrong instead of helping Kristina learn how to cope in a healthy way. Also, doing time in Ferncliff is like a rite of passage on this show, like graduation!

[Katy M]

1 hour ago, KittyQ said:

Hilarious that Carly seems to think that she has the ammunition to keep Willow from ever seeing her kids again once Michael gets back. Compared to the many, many, many bad acts that she, Michael, and Sonny have done and haven't had to give up any of their kids, a little thing like stepping out on your husband with his uncle shouldn't make any difference.

Almost everyone ever on this show that has been married has cheated.  And some of them with family members of their spouses.  Actually moving through family members is a time honored tradition on this show.

Elizabeth-Lucky and Nikolas/Jason and Drew (and AJ now that I think of it)

Carly-AJ, Jason, and Drew

Sam-Sonny and Ric/Jason and Drew

Ric-Alexis and Sam

Monica-Jeff and Rick/Alan and Ned

Sonny-Sam and Alexis

Tania-Frisco and Tony

Ned-Monica and Dawn

Michael-Nelle and Willow

Ava-Sonny and Morgan

Kiki-Michael and Morgan

Morgan-Kiki and Ava

(I'm half surprised they didn't have Sonny get with Kiki to complete the circle on that one).

And I don't even want to get started on people getting with their half-siblings other half-siblings.