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I thought that the best thing about today is the relationship between Danny and Rocco. Glad the writers are still keeping that.

Oh, look at Brennan practically drawing Joss a map on how to find Cyrus' hideaway. That's not WSB material, or rather it shouldn't be.

How did Joss know that Austin testified on Cyrus' behalf at his parole hearing? Is she allowed access to those files? (I'm preparing to be disappointed when I hear why Cyrus murdered him.)

Tracy finding Lois in Martin's hotel room makes me ask yet again, why exactly is Lois on the show?

Willow passionately kissing Drew while wearing Michael's rings (nice sapphire there). Have some respect woman. Poor Nina, Carly is the only ally she has.

5 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I adore Chase, but he deserves to be suspended if not fired. If Rocco or Danny get hurt trying to get justice or revenge for Sam, it's his fault. I'm sort of expecting that they'll get in trouble and Jason will be the one to save them.

I would forgive the show a lot if it's Dante or Chase or even Molly who saves them. Anyone but Jason saving them as he saved Sasha, Cameron, Trina  and everyone else. That trope is so old, it's on life support.

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11 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Rocco sure eavesdrops a lot.

How else is he going to find out anything? No one talks to him.

I thought Brad handled Curtis's absurd implied threat really well. And if anyone should worry about Selina Woo, it should be Curtis. I'm pretty sure she'll choose Brad, her nephew, over Curtis, a wienie who has always had an overinflated idea of his own importance.

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44 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Willow passionately kissing Drew while wearing Michael's rings (nice sapphire there). Have some respect woman. Poor Nina, Carly is the only ally she has.

It is an heirloom ring that originally belonged to Lila. She should give the ring back but if not stop wearing it and save the ring for Wylie or Amelia.

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

17 minutes ago, DanaK said:

Just how old is Brooklyn supposed to be? Having a baby 21 years ago and that young man now being in college suggests she’s at least 40 when I thought she was in her 30s

I was doing the math too. If she was 16, which is the youngest she would be, then she'd be 37.

This story is devoid of any mystery. I think BLQ was in PC as a teenager. The only reason they're giving her a retconned child is so that Lulu can clutch her pearls and hate Brooklyn more than she already does as she makes my ears bleed over her search for my daughter.

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Hey guys, did you know that Gio is Brooklyn and Dante’s baby? What a cliffhanger! I had no idea that was the big sekrit! None I tell you! Gosh these writers are good. So suspenseful! And how exactly does Lois have the money to pay Martin? I’m sure he doesn’t come cheap but she just immediately wired him the retainer like it was pocket change. For that matter, why is Lois? She serves absolutely no purpose on this show and I’m getting really tired of her outlandish outfits and ‘worried’ faces.

oh look, Chase decided to tell Dante, but made him pinky swear that he won’t do anything about it. So of course Rocco was eavesdropping and then immediately called Danny to tell him that Cyrus killed Sam.  Because what could possibly go wrong with two 14 year old boys having that information? Not like either of them will go after Cyrus or even blurt out that they know he killed Sam, when they see him in public. 🙄

previews: noted bigot Natalia is back tomorrow, as is Lulu and her ‘my daughter is the only thing that matters’ campaign. When was the last time she saw or spoke to Rocco? Does she even remember she has a son?

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Grinaldi

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I'm sure Lois gets a cut of Miguel's Spotify earnings. Or they used one of Eddie Maine's songs in like a truck commercial or something.

This whole Gio story has been such a waste of time. There is no suspense and as I said before outside of Dante being in the dark and having some feelings there everyone likes Gio, he has good relationships with everyone and this is an inconsequential change to the canvas. Compare this to say Carly's intro or even Alexis/Sam. There is no drama here except maybe some momentary butt hurt. Meh. MEH I say!

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GHScorpiosRule

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6 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

So of course Rocco was eavesdropping and then immediately called Danny to tell him that Cyrus killed Sam.

Actually, he didn’t. When Molly dropped Danny back at home, he told Rocco that Sam had been murdered. And Rocco told him he knew-found out when he overheard Dante and Chase. But Rocco did tell Danny that the cops suspect Cyrus.

This NuBrennan continues to be so charisma-free. And why can’t the WSB conduct their own investigation into Cyrus? Oh right, because these murders are local. And it still escapes me why he’s setting the moron Joss.

Curtis needs to take SEVERAL seats and mind his own fucking business.

 

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Sake614

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14 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

When Molly dropped Danny back at home, he told Rocco that Sam had been murdered. And Rocco told him he knew-found out when he overheard Dante and Chase. But Rocco did tell Danny that the cops suspect Cyrus.

Okay so he didn’t call Danny. But he wasted no time telling him who the police suspect. So I stand by my statement. Nothing good will come from two teenagers being privy to that information. Especially when one of them is the victim’s son and his father is a mob hitman.

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3 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Joss is totally WSB material, you guys. I mean, today she GOOGLED Cyrus. That is top spy craft right there. Then she went back to ask Brennan to get more info for her, after he just spoon fed her. It would take months for Carrie Matheson or Sidney Bristow to come up with such genius moves. 

In Joss's defense, she did the googling herself unlike a seasoned pro like Sam who would have had Spinelli do the googling for her. 

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GHScorpiosRule

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9 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Okay so he didn’t call Danny. But he wasted no time telling him who the police suspect. So I stand by my statement. Nothing good will come from two teenagers being privy to that information. Especially when one of them is the victim’s son and his father is a mob hitman.

On that I totally agree. I could tell from Danny’s expression he’s planning on doing something.

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JMO

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Just two minor questions after today's show:

Apparently Sam's family knew she'd been given a fatal dose of digitalis, but are only now finding out that it was purposeful.  Even with what they thought was a medication accident, why didn't they file a wrongful death lawsuit against GH?  

If Joss could  look up parole information about Cyrus on the internet, why did Lucky have to ask Rick to get it for them? 

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2 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I was doing the math too. If she was 16, which is the youngest she would be, then she'd be 37.

This story is devoid of any mystery. I think BLQ was in PC as a teenager. The only reason they're giving her a retconned child is so that Lulu can clutch her pearls and hate Brooklyn more than she already does as she makes my ears bleed over her search for my daughter.

I actually messed up on the math there as I added Gio’s minimum current age to the 21 years instead of Brooklyn’s possible minimum age when she had him. But I was close lol

Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

2 hours ago, Sake614 said:

When was the last time she saw or spoke to Rocco? Does she even remember she has a son?

In her scenes a few episodes ago with Laura, she said she had recently been "here" (the coffee shop) with Rocco because he likes coffee. But the last time she had a scene with him, she was leaving him on or right before Christmas to go see Charlotte in Prague.  

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

On that I totally agree. I could tell from Danny’s expression he’s planning on doing something.

I think he's going to ask his dad to get revenge for his mother. He immediately asked if his dad knows. He is well aware Jason carries a gun. He asked him if he shot Dante, when SB returned/he found Dad with a gunshot wound, hiding out in the Q boathouse.

Artsda

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Lois left PC taking Brooke because the Q's were terrible and so dysfunctional. Meanwhile she praised and defend Sonny.  Then shows back up living in their house freeloading off them. 

All the while lying to all of their faces everyday.  Bringing Gio to live there. She really will never have room to speak again after all this comes out. There can't be easy forgiveness and she gets to stay in that house while Drew is banned. 

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Winston Wolfe

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On 2/2/2025 at 2:37 AM, methodwriter85 said:
On 1/24/2025 at 12:27 AM, KerleyQ said:

I think they were. There's a reason we called her Saint Maria of the Pushup Bra back then. 

She played the world's tallest Annette Funnicello in a t.v. movie around the same time (mid-1990's) and yeah...

Been away for a while - are we discussing Natalia here?  Horrible as she is, at least the Noted Bigot has two things going for her.😁

37 minutes ago, nilyank said:

I believe we are gearing up for a who killed Cyrus. I wonder who will get caught and be wrongly arrested for his murder? Lucky & Liz, Joss, Kristina, Danny & Rocco or Dante.

Gosh, I really hope so. He's failed as a baddie since Day One, and Jenz Sidwell hasn't been much better.

I've missed an episode or two due to a heavy workload - do we have a Temp Brennan now, or is this a re-cast?

ETA - Catching up on the Boards, looks like this is a NuBrennan. Reminds me of an aged Ben Savage, kinda.

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statsgirl

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Did Rocco inherit his "I love coffee" gene from Sonny?

Brook Lynn was 15 when she got pregnant which would make her 37 now and a geriatric pregnancy were to get pregnant. But what struck me is that at 15 she would till be a camper instead of a counsellor-in-training (which is what I thought). Didn't the camp authorities keep an eye on the older kids?

When Lois was talking about who would be affected by finding out that Gio is Brook Lynn's child, did she mention Grandpa Ned at all?

4 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

This NuBrennan continues to be so charisma-free. And why can’t the WSB conduct their own investigation into Cyrus? Oh right, because these murders are local. And it still escapes me why he’s setting the moron Joss.

I get the feeling that he doesn't care about Cyrus at all, he's just part of the special Joss project. Brennan has 2 purposes in Port Charles: recruit, especially Joss; and romance Carly.

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13 hours ago, ASpring1900 said:

Not sure if this is more appropriate for the "GH In the News" thread, but this came up on my feed and is adorable. Go Finola!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/DFsw9Jdveg4/

I came across this version, too:

With her doing so much weeping, I had actually forgotten that Finola is an accomplished professional dancer. She had better moves than everyone except Curtis and Jordan...

Poor MB, seemed like his old bones were stiff, then he decided some kind of effort was in order...

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What happened to Cynthis Watros' acting? She's been terrible lately. And if she wants Drew away from Willow so much why doesn't she tell her she and Drew screwed? I personally don't think Willow would care because they stopped months ago but Nina does and apparently doesn't care enough about Willow to sacrifice herself.

If Lois doesn't want anyone to know about Gio why did she move him into the Q house? This was not a crazy retcon but they've made it ridiculously complicated and stupid somehow.

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15 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

 

This NuBrennan continues to be so charisma-free.

Curtis needs to take SEVERAL seats and mind his own fucking business.

 

NuBrennan has the look and demeanor of a career supervisor who's never been in the field, which is fine, except for the backstory that he recently exposition-dumped on Carly (when they were sitting outside in the cold and the snow without hats, which was all I could think about during that scene). Hard to imagine him having daring international adventures. 

And has Curtis forgotten that the person he's intimidating is related to the person he allowed to use his club for illegal gambling? He should be a lot more worried about what she could do to him. I guess sticking it to Drew has given him delusions of grandeur. 

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dubbel zout

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11 hours ago, nilyank said:

I believe we are gearing up for a who killed Cyrus.

Zzzz. These stories are never interesting, and I'm tired of watching the PCPD and the WSB bumble their way through to an accurate arrest.

10 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Did Rocco inherit his "I love coffee" gene from Sonny?

That's how we know Rocco is truly Sonny's bio grandson.

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ciarra

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2 minutes ago, norahs99 said:

While I know this may be the most unpopular of unpopular opinions, I'd rather see Liz back with Ric than Lucky. 

Cosigned.

I liked Liric, liked their couple song, which the singer's name is in your forum name. <g>  Too bad they had to trash Ric to make Sonny (and Jason) look good.  He's less flighty than Lucky. <runs>

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statsgirl

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So Cyrus killed Sam because she was engaged to Lulu's Dante. Yawn.

I'm so tired of Lulu's obsessive search for Charlotte. Take a breath, look after the child that you have in Port Charles, and mend fences with the ex you say you're in love with.

Okay writers, what Drew did to Willow's marriage is not what Nina did to Carly's. Carly rejected Sonny post Nixon Falls before Nina slept with him. But everyone must bow to Carly.

13 hours ago, ulkis said:

If Lois doesn't want anyone to know about Gio why did she move him into the Q house? This was not a crazy retcon but they've made it ridiculously complicated and stupid somehow.

Gio has been on since May 2024, the character having the same name as the actor. I get the feeling that they grabbed the kid, put him on the show, and the retconned backstory came later.

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Bringonthedrama

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2 hours ago, norahs99 said:

While I know this may be the most unpopular of unpopular opinions, I'd rather see Liz back with Ric than Lucky.  Let the tossing of virtual objects begin!

 

2 hours ago, ciarra said:

Cosigned.

I liked Liric, liked their couple song, which the singer's name is in your forum name. <g>  Too bad they had to trash Ric to make Sonny (and Jason) look good.  He's less flighty than Lucky. <runs>

I think we're all entitled to our opinions. Even if you put aside that Ric was responsible for her going blind temporarily and held a woman prisoner in their home, he's never ever going to give up his hatred of Sonny and especially Jason. Elizabeth has a son with Jason. If she, say, has a friendly conversation with Jason in public about Jake (or any other topic) and Ric witnesses it, he'll turn nasty on her. She deserves better. He was unrelentingly nasty to her outside of the courtroom as well as inside when she was a witness in Jason's trial when Jake was a baby.

I don't doubt he would show his contempt for Jason if his name came up in Elizabeth's home as well. Aiden doesn't need to hear someone trash talking his big brother's father. (Now if Jake comes home and does it, that's a different story.) Elizabeth and her kids deserve happiness.

Today: KSt looks great and I chuckled at Maxie telling Nina she will not be her "minion."  That's exactly what Nina was asking of her. 

Lulu's snark at Cyrus and the way Laura handled Drew and Sidwell made me chuckle as well. Don't piss off Mayor Laura, Drew!

I guess Noted Bigot Natalia is Sidwell's ex? Shocker. 

The way Cyrus looked at Elizabeth as she was talking to NuLucas was super creepy. Today's episode made me wonder if he'll try to kidnap Lulu and Elizabeth.

The preview of Tracy and Jason talking about Drew makes me chuckle, too. SB plays annoyance/exasperation well in certain scenes.

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

17 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

So Cyrus killed Sam because she was engaged to Lulu's Dante. Yawn.

No one had a clue that this was the reason Cyrus killed Sam. So everyone should practice their shocked faces when the reveal happens and they spring on us the surprise that he killed Dex because he could place him on Sam's floor before she died.

Looks like Cyrus is about to go after Elizabeth. Which never talked about on the board. Shocking!!!!

The writers are as subtle as a sledgehammer.

Someone should shoot Drew into a volcano. 

 

 

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

8 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

No one had a clue that this was the reason Cyrus killed Sam.

Someone should shoot Drew into a volcano. 

I got a little confused today because I could swear nuLulu was waking up and heard Cyrus at Turning Woods when he said something to her (closed eyes) like "I'm taking care of everything for you." His line today just piggybacks that.

What do you have against volcanoes? 

 

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Elizabeth was very gracious toward Portia, considering how antagonistic Portia was during the whole suspension thing.

I'm sure Rocco is thrilled that the only time Lulu pays attention to him is in service to finding Charlotte. 

Drew is so dumb. Sidwell is out to get Sonny so of course Drew is interested. Sidwell probably isn't even American, much less one of Drew's constituents. He moved into Port Charles yesterday. It was extremely gratifying to see Drew's reaction to Laura's info about what Sidwell did to Lucky. He thinks he's so much smarter than everyone. 

Once again, a woman takes all of the blame for a relationship. Nina wasn't the only one who wrecked Sonny's marriage. He had no interest in knowing who he was in Nixon Falls.

It cracks me up how much trust Sonny has seemingly put in Noted Bigot Natalia. Did he ever have Brick do a background check? Or is that fact that she's Blaze's noted bigot of a mother enough of a character reference?

Sonny, you can't keep your family safe if you're dead.

 

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TVbitch

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I see Liz is back to being Elizabeth to Portia, instead of Nurse Baldwin. It's like when my mom used my middle name only when I was in trouble. 

Liz is telling Lucas not to let Anna know they suspect Cyrus until they get solid proof. And Joss is going to Brennan. I guess most of town finds Anna as incompetent as we do. 

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JMO

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The fact that they didn't follow up on yesterday's big Gio revelation makes me think that they realize it wasn't a surprise.  Now we have Sidwell-as-Natalia's-husband, also posited here on this board months ago.  Either GH is totally predictable, or they have a mole on this board!  At least the Sidwell/Natalia thing explains why he is in Port Charles, of all places in the world.  

I really like nuLucas.  I find the character and the actor believable, and like that he's been brought into a couple of story lines. Whether or not he ends up with Brad again, I think it should be by choice, and not just because they are the only two gay guys on screen.  

I remain intrigued about what Cyrus intended to do with Lulu in South Carolina.  One of the things that I think the show has gotten right has been the tightening of the rope around Cyrus, and I think JK has been playing it exquisitely.  Cut off from his 'volunteer activities' at one site, and then another, and he's getting more tense and agitated by the moment, and is nearly ready to explode. Yes, it's all retconning, but Jeff Kober knows how to keep it interesting.   

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jsbt

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This football storyline gotta end.

Trina: Where exactly are you injured, Kai?
Kai (staring into camera 2): That’s right. 

9 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Does that make Blaze Sidwell's kid?  And Natalia's (unseen) musician son?

Said it months ago! He's the new Cyrus and we'll see him weep for My Kids for the next 2-4 years.

sacrebleu

sacrebleu

Yeesh! That look Cyrus gave Liz was super creepy. 

And I'm liking Maxie as the non-crazy, non-judgemental talk-to. She gave Nina good advice, knowing Nina probably wouldn't take it, and offered friendship to Willow, and since joining the Corinthii cult, she doesn't have a single friend that isn't Team Michael. 

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Ambrosefolly

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13 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Did anyone else think it was really weird that Maxie said her 9 year old son has been bugging her for a play date with 4 year old Wylie? Was that just a ploy to get Willow to Maxie’s house so she can try to talk some sense into her? And what is James going to do with the brat when he gets there?

No, it was. Even a 2 year age gap between anyone under 14 seems huge. I'm chalking it up to Maxie's son wanting to hang out at a luxurious mansion with stables, pool and a lake, possibly sweet in home theater and latest video gaming set up. 

19 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

And I'm liking Maxie as the non-crazy, non-judgemental talk-to. She gave Nina good advice, knowing Nina probably wouldn't take it, and offered friendship to Willow, and since joining the Corinthii cult, she doesn't have a single friend that isn't Team Michael. 

And it feels earned with everything that Maxie has gone through, being either the villain or the heroine. I haven't really watched the show since FV & RC killed AJ and decided that Sonny should skate after a few months, complete with SLS giving up on his vendetta, but unlike other characters on the show, she does suffer consequences for her actions and the show doesn't have perfectly good characters sacrificed to make her look better. 

The Joss investigation storyline seems to be pale imitation of the storyline of Maxie's Text Message Killer investigation, after her boyfriend Cooper and then poor Georgie were murdered. While Maxie was tenacious and resourceful, she also wasn't super awesome. She even recruited Spinelli, who she couldn't stand, (and believe or not, Spinelli hated her too because of his affection for Lulu)  because of his computer skills. Of course, the storyline was doing so well, with Maxie nearly solving, Guza couldn't have that and had, and I kid you not, Nikolas's tumor!Emily tell him who killed her so  he could pass the message off to Jason.  

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