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Culture Check: How can we discuss a character's or actor's appearance without objectifying them? How can we express likes or dislikes and still respect an individual's humanity or be mindful that a character represents a person someone else might relate to or identify with?

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I have reached the stage where I am hoping that Willow goes to the hospital so that Joss and Carly can yell at her. Because she's become that stupid. Then I changed my mind when Diane was talking to Joss because even Willow does not deserve those two witches. Also how did Diane find a judge to sign off on custody in the time it took Willow to get to the hospital?

Drew, on the other hand.....

Why isn't Jason wearing a mask when he goes to see Michael? Infrection is a risk for burn patients.

I don't miss T.J. at all.

22 hours ago, MarciNJ said:

Oh, FFS - is he the only surgeon in that hospital?  Why does he keep working on family members??

I want to know why a trauma surgeon was working on him. Burn victims need a plastic surgeon and an internal medicine specialist, which is what Portia is. She should have been in there instead of running to find Gannon like a junior ward clerk.

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2 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Why isn't Jason wearing a mask when he goes to see Michael? Infrection is a risk for burn patients.

I thought the same thing! Also wondered if it was a show choice or an actor choice, but I’m weird that way.

The writers seem to have forgotten that Willow served Michael first.

So Willow is the new Nina. This wrath would be more interesting to me if I hadn’t known Michael sex cheated on his wife first, after being too much of a baby to confront his wife kiss cheating.

Loved Curtis speaking truth to Drew. 👏🏻👏🏻 

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1 hour ago, Pingaponga said:

It's interesting that BrookLynn's revelation that she had a child as a teenager that was given up for adoption has been met with everyone here with a shrug.

They've been signaling it like the bat signal for months and months. Which makes it one of the most boring reveals ever.

Even if the show hadn't been signaling the reveal for months, it would still be boring. It came out of nowhere—it's just to give Gio a more solid foundation. But he's boring, so who cares what his backstory is? Certainly I don't.

I fervently hope that Ava uses the fire at Sonny's penthouse against him in the custody fight for Avery. (From the previews, it looks like she does. Go, Ava!)

39 minutes ago, CeChase said:

The very idea that Diane could get a court to okay taking Willow's children to hand them over to a non-custodial family member is ABSURD. 

I can't with this Diane writing. Someone in that writers room has a fixation on this woman and it's at the point for a mental health evaluation.  

It's not about Diane. it's about Carly and her kids never losing. Diane is just the current instrument to making that happen.

I'm genuinely surprised that Jason talked to Anna and Chase without Diane there. He always has a lawyer with him when he officially talks to the police, no matter the context. He's getting soft because of his feelings for Anna!

Drew and Willow in D.C. while Michael was on fire are two completely separate incidents.Why everyone on the show is acting as if they aren't is beyond me. It's not as if Drew and Willow lit the match and then scampered off to fuck.

"Michael gave you those kids!" What a gross thing to say. Joss is really on her moral high horse. She seems to forget that Michael wasn't exactly Mr. Innocent while Willow was married to Chase. Or even the reason she married him in the first place. Shut up, Joss.

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10 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

So, are you saying Diane showed up at the hospital with a court order that Carly gets custody of the two kids? 

Diane talked to Carly about getting custody, telling her that if they got custody now, it would be harder for Willow to get it back. So in the time it took for Willow to get to the hospital and Joss to berate her, Diane went to her office, drew up the papers, found a judge to give Carly custody and went to the police station to grab Chase to enforce it. Sure, show.

I have no love for Michael but he wouldn't have wanted this. He even told Diane that he wanted shared custody with Willow. Asking for sole custody was a bargaining chip.

Carly and Diane are foul. Joss is nearing there.

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51 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

So in the time it took for Willow to get to the hospital and Joss to berate her, Diane went to her office, drew up the papers, found a judge to give Carly custody and went to the police station to grab Chase to enforce it. Sure, show.

How do the writers' backs not hurt in the knots they twist themselves in to always have Carly lording something over people?

Also, as has been noted, Willow is the new Nina.  

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

"Michael gave you those kids!" What a gross thing to say.

And, not for nothing, but the show has portrayed Willow marrying Michael as the reason he was able to retain custody of Wiley.  And then Willow literally endangered her life to bring Amelia into the world.  But, yes, those kids are something Michael created out of whole cloth, all on his own, and bestowed upon Willow as a gift conditional on her remaining faithful only to him until her last days and beyond. 

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59 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

So in the time it took for Willow to get to the hospital and Joss to berate her, Diane went to her office, drew up the papers, found a judge to give Carly custody and went to the police station to grab Chase to enforce it. Sure, show.

I’m picturing her waiting impatiently at the police station waiting for Chase to get back from his scenes clearing evidence at Sonny’s apartment. 

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YaddaYadda

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On the one hand, Willow getting a taste of the Carlys and what they really are like when you're outside the "circle of trust." But I really wanted Willow to punch Joss in the mouth so hard, her teeth would come out the back of her head. Especially when she said that Michael gave her those kids. 

Take a seat, cheater. And STFU! Like recognizes like. For a girl who cheated and comes from a long line of serial cheaters and succubi, she sure runs her mouth like she's some kind of a saint.

And Drew, if you weren't so self-centered, you might have seen Carly's gratefulness for what you did for her coming a thousand miles away. But him about to smack her with the role she played in Michael getting injured because she allowed him to be exposed to Sonny's world should be good. I imagine that she'll slap him.

I really love Brennan, but I'm tired of him doing everything for Carly and her progeny. Doesn't the WSB have better things to do than be in service of the Carlys?

So it looks like Jason might be done with the mob life. The fact that he actually thought of his son and how he didn't want anything like that to happen to him is surprising, even shocking.

So Diane is going on the middle of the night to take two small children, who may be asleep, out of their grandmother's home. Don't think the children will be scared, cry, be traumatized by the experience? 

I hate the Carlys.

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Drew and Willow in D.C. while Michael was on fire are two completely separate incidents.Why everyone on the show is acting as if they aren't is beyond me. It's not as if Drew and Willow lit the match and then scampered off to fuck.

 

You just had me doubled over with laughter for five minutes. It’s a combination of picturing that image and the absurdity that the writers are truly writing it this way. I don’t think it’s just idiots like Joss and Carly who will connect it like that. Curtis threw that in Drew’s face as well. 
 

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"Michael gave you those kids!" What a gross thing to say. Joss is really on her moral high horse. She seems to forget that Michael wasn't exactly Mr. Innocent while Willow was married to Chase. Or even the reason she married him in the first place. Shut up, Joss.

So much of Joss’ rant was so gross but that line about Michael giving her the kids was right at the top. I guess, technically, she was right about Wiley and the adoption. But, really, she’s not. I think Willow can say she gave Michael Wiley because it was her choosing to marry him that helped him secure custody.
 

Joss has every right to be upset that her brother was cheated on and be emotional because he’s in the hospital, but as usual the actress has no nuance. She’s supposed to be sad about her brother but the sadness completely disappears and she’s just smug and self-satisfied. Even when Willow mentioned her cheating on Dex, Joss has no moment of even slight reflection. Instead she just excuses herself because she and Cam weren’t married. Probably the only reason she didn’t cheat on Dex was he had the good sense to die before that could happen. Then she brings up Willow “cheating” on Chase as if Michael wasn’t just as responsible. Willow may be a cheater, but so is Michael. He also slept with his brother’s gf/wife (I can’t remember if Kiki and Michael slept together while she was married to Morgan.) I do remember at the time people were basically telling Morgan to get over it. So all this gnashing of teeth from the Corinthii over how gross it is that Drew slept with his nephew’s wife is comical coming from them.

I am glad that Willow didn’t cower and cry in front of Joss. There was a similar scene years ago when Lulu tore Liz apart in the middle of the hospital for cheating on Lucky with Nikolas. I’ll admit back then I kind of cheered because Liz was wrong and I detested her at the time. But, I watched those scenes again recently and it went on too long and while Liz was wrong, I thought it would have made more sense for Liz not just stand there crying, either leave or at least call Lulu out on her hypocrisy once. So, I was glad Willow’s reaction was different. While I also thought there was too much name calling in the Lulu/Liz scene, I wish Willow had been harsher with Joss. So, I’m glad Nina’s going to show up tomorrow. I don’t think she’ll have any problem calling Joss the insufferable heifer that she is. 

Chase had no business being the cop to go over to Nina’s. I know that he and Willow are on good terms and have no animosity toward each other, but having her EX-HUSBAND be the cop to help take her kids from her was weird. With Dex gone, they’re down a contract player police officer. Dante wouldn’t have been appropriate either given he’s Michael’s brother. But there was nothing in that scene that couldn’t have been done by some day player.

Carly’s hypocrisy and self-righteous delusion was off the charts today. There should have been nothing but a scorch mark when she called Drew self-centered. Just like with Joss, it’s fine for Carly to hate Drew for hurting her son, but there’s no reason to rewrite history just for her to fulfill the narrative in her head. Yes, Drew initially thought he’d do minimal jail time in a minimum security prison (which is still a sacrifice you delusional ingrate) but when the judge passed down the harsher sentence, his lawyer advised him to fight it. Drew said that would take them back to square one with Carly facing jail time. So, he did go to prison for her. It doesn’t mean Carly has to ignore what he did to Michael, but she doesn’t get to make it seem like it wasn’t a sacrifice or that he had sinister ulterior motives. If he wanted to use it, he could have used it to keep Carly at his side. Instead he dumped her.

I know Carly’s a grieving mother, but I don’t care, I cheered when Drew threw it in her face that this is her fault. Because it is. This isn’t the first time Michael is paying the price because of Sonny’s business. Carly brought them into that life and made it seem like it was a perfectly fine way to live. Just like she’s trying to take Willow’s kids, she stole Michael from his father. She thinks it’s up to her to decide who has a right to be a parent and who doesn’t despite the fact she’s a shitty parent.

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13 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

On the one hand, Willow getting a taste of the Carlys and what they really are like when you're outside the "circle of trust." But I really wanted Willow to punch Joss in the mouth so hard, her teeth would come out the back of her head. Especially when she said that Michael gave her those kids. 

Take a seat, cheater. And STFU! Like recognizes like. For a girl who cheated and comes from a long line of serial cheaters and succubi, she sure runs her mouth like she's some kind of a saint.

THANK YOU! I was getting ready to type the same exact thing just based on the previews I had seen. Like this mini Cujo has any leg to stand on, accusing others of being a cheater!cheater! pumpkin eater! She can take several seats.

8 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I am glad that Willow didn’t cower and cry in front of Joss. There was a similar scene years ago when Lulu tore Liz apart in the middle of the hospital for cheating on Lucky with Nikolas. I’ll admit back then I kind of cheered because Liz was wrong and I detested her at the time.

OMG, that's the scene I was thinking of as well! Do we share a brain? And I also cheered back then because I HATED that affair storyline and how gross it was.

8 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Chase had no business being the cop to go over to Nina’s. I know that he and Willow are on good terms and have no animosity toward each other, but having her EX-HUSBAND be the cop to help take her kids from her was weird. With Dex gone, they’re down a contract player police officer. Dante wouldn’t have been appropriate either given he’s Michael’s brother. But there was nothing in that scene that couldn’t have been done by some day player.

Forget about Chase, Dante, or any dayplayer keystone cops. Cops don't do that. It's the fucking social workers who come and take children away. But that's neither here or there; the children weren't in any danger, and it could have waited for a hearing, but this is the FAKAKTA General Hospital.

9 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I know Carly’s a grieving mother, but I don’t care, I cheered when Drew threw it in her face that this is her fault. Because it is. This isn’t the first time Michael is paying the price because of Sonny’s business. Carly brought them into that life and made it seem like it was a perfectly fine way to live. Just like she’s trying to take Willow’s kids, she stole Michael from his father. She thinks it’s up to her to decide who has a right to be a parent and who doesn’t despite the fact she’s a shitty parent.

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11 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Forget about Chase, Dante, or any dayplayer keystone cops. Cops don't do that. It's the fucking social workers who come and take children away. But that's neither here or there; the children weren't in any danger, and it could have waited for a hearing, but this is the FAKAKTA General Hospital.

There was a woman there with him. I think that might have been the social worker. I guess Chase was there as back-up to make sure they complied with the court order. I’m know they’ve had similar scenes like that in the past. The whole court order of it all is truly stupid. Yes, Willow took Wiley to Drew’s swearing-in without asking, but she didn’t kidnap them or refuse to bring them back. There was nothing that would have warranted a judge not only taking them from their mother while their father was in the hospital but then giving them to the grandmother, who wasn’t even home at the time. I tend to like Diane, especially in her scenes with Alexis, but she was at her absolute worst today. She knows damn well what Michael would want, but went to Carly anyway as if Carly - in any sane world - has a leg to stand on in a custody case. Nina couldn’t even get visitation against the parents wishes but Carly can get temporary custody with the court not even giving Willow a chance to explain her side. Such horseshit. 

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44 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I cheered when Drew threw it in her face that this is her fault. Because it is. This isn’t the first time Michael is paying the price because of Sonny’s business. Carly brought them into that life and made it seem like it was a perfectly fine way to live.

When Michael and the other kids were still living at home, whatever collateral damage they were because of Sonny's business was definitely Carly's fault. But now that Joss and Michael are adults (supposedly™ Silas Clay forever),  it's on them. They know the risks at this point. Sonny has been and always will be a target, but his kids hang with him anyway. That's on them. I know it's a bit more layered that this, but the point is, they have free will here and exercise it. Sucks when their desire to be with their dad and his bidness overlap.

13 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:
36 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Forget about Chase, Dante, or any dayplayer keystone cops. Cops don't do that. It's the fucking social workers who come and take children away. But that's neither here or there; the children weren't in any danger, and it could have waited for a hearing, but this is the FAKAKTA General Hospital.

There was a woman there with him. I think that might have been the social worker. I guess Chase was there as back-up to make sure they complied with the court order.

That's what I was thinking as well, that Chase was there to make sure they complied with the (completely ridiculous) court order. You know Nina isn't going to calmly let the kids leave.

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Oh my God. I can’t stop laughing. The SLS looks like he’s sleeping and isn’t burned. Aside from his body lightly wrapped and n gauze. His face and hair don’t even look like they were singed. At least on Dallas original recipe, when Victoria Principal left, when Pam’s car crashed into the gas tanker, she was SWATHED from head to toe! Which made it believable that she suffered third degree burns!  The SLS just looks like he’s sleeping.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

How expensive would it have been to wrap Chad from head to toe?

I’m so sick of Kristina’s pity party.

The less said about how Diane managed to get the kids back, the better. Good thing I was drinking my 🥃 so I’m not having rage blackout. And I don’t even LIKE Willow.

OHHHH!!! Flashback to young Jason when Burton was hawt!

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JMO

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I find the whole Michael/Willow divorce and custody issues dizzying.  Before they could even get together to discuss the video and what was on it, nor what it might all mean for their relationship, Nina had Michael served with papers, without Willow even knowing it was happening.  Immediately thereafter both of them are essentially pushed behind legal representation by their respective families, and now Diane has essentially decided on her own to file for emergency custody of the kids.  Yes, Carly eventually agreed, but this was 99% Diane.  Even forgetting that Michael is currently incapacitated, neither he nor Willow have demonstrated that they are in possession of a spine, and they have allowed themselves to be manipulated by the next generation, at the cost of ruining their children's lives.

In my experience, it is common for a patrol officer to accompany a social worker when children are being removed by court order, because that can be dangerous for all involved.  But a detective??  No.

It's interesting to me that Willow seems to be of the mind that she and Michael are equally injured parties in this mess, and she doesn't even know about Sasha or the baby yet.

SB is doing a decent job of having Jason show some vulnerability, and I wonder if it will deepen over time. He used to be able to portray that.  

This is just an observation on human behavior, but it has long fascinated me.  No one on screen today is responsible for what happened to Michael, yet they're all pointing fingers at each other, maybe because they can't find a real perpetrator to blame.  We're seeing something similar regarding the wildfires in California.  Why do we always need to assign blame, when perhaps none is warranted?  Why not just step up to help?  

 

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I had to laugh when Drew was bleating to Carly that he went to jail for her and almost died. No one asked you to, pal. That was all on you. That he expects Carly to show him some human kindness is ridiculous. Have you learned nothing from being with her and then seeing her work from afar? Carly is out for herself and the five other people she cares about. You are not one of those people, Drew. You never were—you were a placeholder until Jason returned. He realized that when he preemptively broke up with Carly, but he seems to have forgotten it today. What a dolt. No sympathy for him and his galactically stupid decisions.

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1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Oh my God. I can’t stop laughing. The SLS looks like he’s sleeping and isn’t burned. Aside from his body lightly wrapped and n gauze. His face and hair don’t even look like they were singed. At least on Dallas original recipe, when Victoria Principal left, when Pam’s car crashed into the gas tanker, she was SWATHED from head to toe! Which made it believable that she suffered third degree burns!  The SLS just looks like he’s sleeping.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

For me, it’s not about him not being burned or bandaged everywhere, because we saw that the fire was primarily on his back.  It’s that they have him lying on his burns.  No way that would happen.  He would be prone in the bed.

Re: burns.  If you're brought immediately to a burn center, it might be plastics heading the team.  But if you're brought to the nearest hospital for stabilization first, it will be trauma who cares for you, gets you intubated and starts some lines.  Then you go to the hospital with the burn unit.  Which I think is where Michael will be sent, unless GH is suddenly a burn center, just as it was suddenly a place doing cutting edge spinal surgery when Curtis needed it (which Portia only found out by reading about it in an international medical journal).

 

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Wasn't Ava treated for her burns at GH? All thing to all people.

LOL that Michael's face is perfect except for the smudges. It would make more sense to  have it burned for the recast but Frank really wants Chad back.

2 hours ago, absnow54 said:

I’m picturing her waiting impatiently at the police station waiting for Chase to get back from his scenes clearing evidence at Sonny’s apartment. 

I'm pretty sure you're right.  Chase got a call when he was investigating at Sonny's (Anna told him "better you than me") that called him back to the police station. Way to go, Diane, pulling Chase away from the crime scene to steal Willow's kids.

I hope that taking the kids while Willow is at GH with Michael going to be a point against Carly.

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

had to laugh when Drew was bleating to Carly that he went to jail for her and almost died. No one asked you to, pal. That was all on you. That he expects Carly to show him some human kindness is ridiculous. Have you learned nothing from being with her and then seeing her work from afar?

Don't juggle knives and then be shocked when you get cut, Drewfus.  Bleating is exactly the right term for his yammering today.  Honestly, yes, the DC fuckfest has nothing to do with the fire, but for him to show up at the hospital with his 'hand to chest' sympathy?  Pound salt, buddy.

Tie between who was more awful today: Joss or Diane.  I think I'm going to go with the latter because at least Joss is blood related to Michael and her frontal lobe isn't fully developed yet.  Diane has zero excuses.  She actually had a gleam in her when she went to take those kids away.  What kind of person thinks it's ok to have two kids pulled out of bed and taken like that?  She's garbage.  

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2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

When Michael and the other kids were still living at home, whatever collateral damage they were because of Sonny's business was definitely Carly's fault. But now that Joss and Michael are adults (supposedly™ Silas Clay forever),  it's on them. They know the risks at this point. Sonny has been and always will be a target, but his kids hang with him anyway. That's on them. I know it's a bit more layered that this, but the point is, they have free will here and exercise it. Sucks when their desire to be with their dad and his bidness overlap.

I do see your point, and thought about that. Most of the kids, except Donna and Avery, are adults and can make their own choices. But, I still think Carly does shoulder some blame. Not only did she rob Michael's actual father of a chance to parent his kid, but she turned him over to someone like Sonny who she knew was in constant danger. If she hadn't done that maybe Michael wouldn't have grown up to think this way of life was acceptable. Maybe he wouldn't be targeted as one of Sonny's gaggle of kids.

1 hour ago, JMO said:

It's interesting to me that Willow seems to be of the mind that she and Michael are equally injured parties in this mess, and she doesn't even know about Sasha or the baby yet.

I think when Willow said today that they both made mistakes she was referring to the longstanding trust issues in their marriage. This isn't the first time Willow has lied to Michael and he's lied to her several times - including now with keeping the Sasha tryst from her. 

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

I had to laugh when Drew was bleating to Carly that he went to jail for her and almost died. No one asked you to, pal. That was all on you. That he expects Carly to show him some human kindness is ridiculous. Have you learned nothing from being with her and then seeing her work from afar? Carly is out for herself and the five other people she cares about. You are not one of those people, Drew. You never were—you were a placeholder until Jason returned. He realized that when he preemptively broke up with Carly, but he seems to have forgotten it today. What a dolt. No sympathy for him and his galactically stupid decisions.

He brought up going to jail for her, not because she asked him to do it, but because she was claiming that he's too self-involved to care about anyone. He was pointing it he cared about her so much that he went to jail for her. She may not have asked him to do it, but she certainly wasn't stopping him nor did she have any issues with taking advantage. We know that if Carly really thought it wasn't right that he take all the blame, she could have stopped it. When she wanted to stop Jagger from blackmailing Jason she turned herself in. Drew broke up with her because, like Jax eventually realized, he knew she would never put him before Jason (or Sonny.) That's different to never thinking she cared about him at all. Up until she found out about his tryst with Willow, she was singing his praises and telling him what a great father he is. 

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12 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

As a former NYC resident, I would not ride the subway again even if gas prices rose to $25 per gallon and parking cost $50 an hour. Simply not safe.

I’m a current NYC resident and will ride the subway whenever I need to. I did it in the 70s and 80s and I’ll continue to do it. Yes there have been several awful incidents lately but a lot of it is simply that we now have access to news immediately. Overall the subway is still safe.

back on topic, Willow is a tool but it was nice to see her stand up for herself with Joss instead of crying, and while Drew certainly had a point about Carly being responsible for Michael’s situation (or at least her choices), I really wanted her to haul off and punch him in his smug face. Way to get back into the family’s good graces, bozo!

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Forget about Chase, Dante, or any dayplayer keystone cops. Cops don't do that. It's the fucking social workers who come and take children away. But

They had a social worker with them, so at least that part was accurate. 

FilmTVGeek80

FilmTVGeek80

8 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Way to get back into the family’s good graces, bozo!

Why should he care about getting back in Carly's good graces? Does Carly even have "good graces?"

One thing I found funny about Joss' bitch attack with Willow was during the holidays she forgave Sonny. I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was something about how the world isn't black and white and no one is all good or bad. I thought there's no way this kumbaya version of Joss lasts once she finds out about Willow & Drew and I was definitely right. 

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Jason now has been distracted by Sam's death? Both deadbeat brothers sure love using her death. 

Where's Dante?  He should be here. Instead Molly? Molly loves Michael since when? She doesn't acknowledge Sonny as an uncle. 

Willow really is stupid she should have listened to Martin instead she ran off to be read for filth by Joss. Who was channeling Lulu. Didn't she call Liz, lying cheating slut? They just stole the script? Except what made that great was the actors and the crowd watching. 

 

 

Bringonthedrama

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5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Drew and Willow in D.C. while Michael was on fire are two completely separate incidents. Why everyone on the show is acting as if they aren't is beyond me. It's not as if Drew and Willow lit the match and then scampered off to fuck.

I sort of get it, in the twisted thinking of the Port Charles universe. Sonny told Carly that Michael came to the Penthouse to talk to him about Willow and the state of their marriage. Sonny knows that Michael is divorcing Willow after finding out that she took Wiley to DC without telling him, for Drew's swearing-in. 

In real life, yeah it was Michael's free will to go there but ultimately Sonny's fault because he has enemies that want to kill him. But in the minds of those who don't want to really hold Sonny accountable for *reasons*, it's Willow and Drew's fault because Michael went to see Sonny to talk about them. They do see Drew and Willow as having "lit the match" - just not literally. 

It's not just Michael's immediate family who thinks the affair is gross - so does Ned. So did Trina. And BLQ, etc. It turns out that the Drew and Willow actors have a 26-year age difference. Between that and how CM's Drew is coming off as a predator leaning into Willow's hero worship hard, I understand the reactions. (Yes, I know there are such large gaps in some relationships in real life, but in my opinion it means the two people will never, ever be equals.)

 

ciarra

ciarra

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4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Chase was there to make sure they complied with the (completely ridiculous) court order.

I agree, but why send a detective?  Other than the fact that it would have been a good task for Dex to complete, had he been, you know, alive.

I find Carly and Lucas' relationship kind of jarring, because I don't recall Carly ever giving him the time of day.  I'm surprised she doesn't hold a grudge against him for his involvement with baby stealer Brad, causing her golden child to be without Wiley for the first year(?) of his life.

So Sonny and Jason can just wander into a crime scene, one where a support beam has fallen.  O-kay.

And this daily recapping of who is grieving because they lost their sister, baby, boyfriend is annoying.  It's almost a competition over who is the most grief stricken.

 

 

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nilyank

nilyank

52 minutes ago, ciarra said:

And this daily recapping of who is grieving because they lost their sister, baby, boyfriend is annoying.  It's almost a competition over who is the most grief stricken.

 

Well that is obviously going to be Kristina who wins the gold medal for this.

Drew wants to help the family with what Michael is going through? Send flowers and a donation in Michael's name for the burn unit of your choice. Your presence is making people who want nothing to do with you have to deal with you because you don't see how tacky you are being.

Willow should be there as Michael is their children's father but she should have also walked away once Joss snapped at her. Instead she wants Joss to understand what Willow is going through with her weird hero worship and bedding of Drew. It doesn't matter if Joss had also cheated. Michael is physically suffering and in the back of Joss' mind is that he might die just like Morgan did. She just doesn't have the bandwidth to sympathize with Willow who has not been acting like she gives a damn about Michael for these past few weeks.

Where is the rest of Michael's family? Dante, the Qs?

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ByaNose

ByaNose

Carly Jr. got to use the skank word. So gross. Granted Willow with Drew isn’t good but isn’t Willow like a lot older than Joss? Wasn’t Willow already a teacher and Moss was still in HS? Whatever. How did Willow just stand there and let Joss spew all her venom? Granted, it’s a soap but c’mon! Why didn’t Willow haul ass and deck Joss? 

Steve Burton is actually shedding (almost) tears. He didn’t do that for Sam but I give him credit with his scene today. He looks like he is real pain and grief. I guess he’s more into Chad than Kelly. Most actors use real life emotions for stuff like this and it shows with the last 2 episodes.

Drew did have a point about going to jail for Carly but he was dumb enough to do it to begin with so it’s too late to harp on it now. I’m guessing his next line to Carly will be about that she’s really at Sonny and that’s why it’s her fault. 

I always thought the scenes with Kristina were sort of revisionist history because I always thought Dante was her #1 and Michael was her #2. Back in the day when they wore their Harry Potter schools uniforms Michael was the leader but that was years and years ago. 

All in all, a good episode. I am curious how many more episodes of Chad we have before he’s rolled out of GH and sent to some Swiss clinic for rehabilitation?!

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