Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[tessaray]

2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Then the Show led us to believe that Gio was going to be Trina's new romance or at least flirtation esp. after the way he emerged from the Metrocourt pool, which triggered Trina to think of when Spencer did it the same way. I don't care about Gio one way or another. 

I see what you mean. But Gio as a romantic character has been a dud. And you can't predict chemistry.

TA has had a hard time and she didn't deserve that. But it isn't the new kid's fault. Whatever the show's reasons, he deserves the same chance NAC got. 

Edited November 13 by tessaray

[jsbt]

6 hours ago, tessaray said:

If the character of Kai takes off, I'm sure he'll be found to have a PC connection at some point. Until then, I just think it will be nice to have a couple of fresh faces. But I don't understand why it's insulting to Trina to have the new cute guy be a PoC.

I don't find it insulting at all. But I do think Bryan and Claudia, while lovely people, were ultimately just tokens and sidekicks to the white folks. And that's what I fear will happen to both characters here if Kai isn't in a stronger narrative position. Which is why I would've preferred to see the Black Q character rumored in the spring-summer, who would have a stronger buy-in to be activated across the larger canvas vs. the way they simply keep Curtis, Portia and their entire family, often lumped together or serving as talk-tos for the white leads (which is most of what Trina has done for this entire post-Spencer year). I have no faith in GH to reveal more than that Kai simply being another kid of Cyborg Jordan's or something, lol. That's historically how they isolate most of their characters of color together. Until and excepting the mid-90s with Wards, GH has never been very good at Black representation.

As for Trina, I'll believe she gets major story again when I see it. Same with recasting Spencer, which I now think will conveniently only happen once Tabyana puts in her walking papers. I don't need Trina with Spencer, but I need more of a commitment to stronger story and a new partner than I've seen since. YMMV.

6 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Infuriated? Ridiculous. Everything Elizabeth said was spot-on and Lucky deserved it since he wanted Elizabeth's blessing/absolution to abandon their son.

I meant infuriated with Lucky, which they should be. Everything Elizabeth said was absolutely right.

Edited November 13 by jsbt

[sacrebleu]

Well it's clear the writers never actually watched Casablanca, Ilsa left with the guy fighting fascism, at Bogie's urging. ( Sacrificing being with the love of his life for the greater good) Holly is off to a poker game to pay off a debt to a crime syndicate.

And to @nilyank's point... Uhhh Robert's the DA, can he just leave? 

And Sasha is, yet again, an afterthought. 

 

[DanaK]

I too liked the scenes between Danny and Jason and to get Danny’s perspective on where he thinks he and Scout should end up. I’m interested in seeing how this turns out, especially with how all the adults in the situation manage it and whether they can come to a solution everyone involved agrees on. Legally, I’m not sure Dante can just take the kids since he and Sam weren’t married and, as far as I know, didn’t have a legal domestic partnership. Of course, the writers won’t necessarily go by legal reality or write something good lol

[ComeWhatMay]

3 hours ago, tessaray said:

TA has had a hard time and she didn't deserve that. But it isn't the new kid's fault. Whatever the show's reasons, he deserves the same chance NAC got. 

TA truly didn’t deserve it. And I think she deserves the same chance NAC got when SM left and Sprina went next level with her. I am sorry the show might not give her that chance, especially given how NAC has distanced himself from her and the pairing very deliberately since exiting the show, apart from that rather odd “pass the baton” friending/posing with Gio on Instagram.

I don’t think Gio was set up for success by anybody and I hope they can salvage it for him. 

Honestly the whole business leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Recasting Spencer after running out TA’s deal would be nasty work, imo. I wish all the success in the world to Tabyana. And we’ll see what happens with Jens/Kai. 

And congratulations to NAC on all his success. 

[mostlylurking]

I hated Felicia telling Sasha to give her mom another chance.  Maybe Maxie gave her mom another chance but that was probably more because of Felicia getting back together with Mac and her mom actually you know, being there.  Just because someone births you doesn’t mean you are indebted to them for life, especially if they’re assholes. 

[CeChase]

10 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I like the actor who plays Gio.  He’s very natural, and he’s cute.  He’s just pointless.  Like….why is Gio?  I have no idea.

Trina was way harsh!  I mean I get why she was mad but that was over the top.

I’m a Lucky/JJ fan but he deserved the verbal bitch slap he got from Liz.  And no one does it better.  Talk about pointless…the show is able to get a huge name back and this is what they do with him?

Neither one is in the running for father of the year but at least Jason is sticking around.  I liked the scene between him and Danny.  Danny is more concerned about his sister than her father is 🙄

Also, bringing Drew back into this, at least Jason isn't a perv. 

[CeChase]

Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think they're waiting for Taby to leave.  The truly soapy move would be to have Trina fall for this new guy, and THEN Spencer resurfaces, wouldn't it?  I haven't heard anything about Taby leaving, tho I realize her contract is up soon.  Unless Beyond the Gates makes her an offer.  Back when I was still on Twitter, I did take note that Michele Val Jean tweeted to Taby that she had been hoping to meet her at the daytime emmys.  

[driver18]

Kai has been in one episode and he is good-looking, can act, has shown personality, some depth, and is already shooting puppy dog eyes Trina's way. The enemies to lovers trope works. And there is still the possibility that Gio will be brought into the mix in a triangle.

Also, I still think making Sasha a Scorpio was a good Idea even with Robert and Holly leaving (not that i liked Robert leaving as he did, but this isnt about that). Sasha may not have Robert around, but she will be connected in a way she wasn't before. She's got Mac, Felicia, Maxie (as family), her kids, and now is a part of that circle along with Nina. And eventually Cody will be just family too.

Edited November 13 by driver18

[CeChase]

30 minutes ago, driver18 said:

Kai has been in one episode and he is good-looking, can act, has shown personality, some depth, and is already shooting puppy dog eyes Trina's way. The enemies to lovers trope works. And there is still the possibility that Gio will be brought into the mix in a triangle.

Also, I still think making Sasha a Scorpio was a good Idea even with Robert and Holly leaving (not that i liked Robert leaving as he did, but this isnt about that). Sasha may not have Robert around, but she will be connected in a way she wasn't before. She's got Mac, Felicia, Maxie (as family), her kids, and now is a part of that circle along with Nina. And eventually Cody will be just family too.

I've already seen comments that he's not hot enough for Trina.  It must have been on the Reddit GH sub because I don't think it was here and I'm no longer on Twitter.  The Sprina fans are going to be very hard to please, and I feel bad for the new actor.  He's got his hands full.  Look what they did to the Gio actor.  The things said were beyond mean.  

[Francie]

4 hours ago, jsbt said:

I don't find it insulting at all. But I do think Bryan and Claudia, while lovely people, were ultimately just tokens and sidekicks to the white folks.

I won't deny they were more in supportive roles -- bffs to Scotty and Laura. But they were also fully fleshed out characters, with distinct personalities,  extended family (7-9-year-old-me remembers that some of their parents were on canvas as well), and issues of their own. 

If compared to today, they'd be among the most well-rounded characters. 

[KittenPokerCheater]

Thoughts:  

I forgot Gio existed.  

Robert finds out he has another kid and rather get to stay to know her, runs off with the mother who virtually abandoned her.  Nice.

Liver transplant wake up comatose people.

I still can't stand Kristina and Molly.

Play on.

[JMO]

Re: Lucky---Isn't this the second time since his return that Liz has had to challenge him?  It really is coming across like the writers don't know what to do with him, so they keep writing variations of the same scene.  Not that he doesn't deserve the lectures.  

Trying to think of any characters that I would describe as strong and upstanding, and right now I'm down to the Scorpio brothers and the latest model of Felicia.  

[GHScorpiosRule]

23 hours ago, driver18 said:

 

As for Sasha and the Robert/Holly retconning of it all. Uhm, yeah. But this is a soap opera. Luke Spencer would NEVER have cheated on Laura. EVER. But we got Ethan, and Luke whorin' all over the globe cuz reasons. Drew was utterly devoted Scout, a family man, and now he's a slimy, two-timing hound dog cuz reasons. Retcons happen all the time. GH has been on the air for decades, it's just, yeah. 

Well yeah, they did this to Luke and Laura because they weren't on the show at the time Teethan was conceived and spawned.

BUT, and a lot of us ( okay, just me and @jsbt) have stated so many times already-Robert was "DEAD" when Sasha was supposed to have been conceived; Robert and Anna were MARRIED on screen right before their "deaths" and Holly had been on the show in front burner story line, during her supposed pregnancy, but her tummy was flat as a griddle cake and no time off screen to birth this retconned child.

Then again, it's a soap, why even try to make any sort of sense, even though return from the dead, evil twins, used to make sense?

And WHAT IN THE HOLY FUCK??? Robert is gone and with that miserable piece of what has become of Holly?!!!!!

And Fuck off, Anna-I watched Night Shift II and both you and Robert proclaimed your love for each other.

I blame this on Frank and all his hack of writers, who don't give any bluedilly fucks about history. Just what is lazy and expedient.

See trashing of Taggert, and his suddenly not being Trina's father.

I guess I should be grateful that they didn't totally annihilate Robert? Please.

And THIS is what JJ came back for? Seriously? I'd be better off trying to find all the shows online, when we were introduced to him until Helena faked his death, at this point.

Edited November 13 by GHScorpiosRule

[YaddaYadda]

14 hours ago, statsgirl said:

The women on this show really have to do the heavy lifting, Mac and the now departed Finn being the exceptions. (Robert lost his cred leaving Sasha to go off with Holly.)

The men on this show are mostly losers who should have gotten snip snipped a long time ago.

Jason's line about how he was fine with Jake and Danny not having him because they had great moms was the epitome of deadbeat dad. None of these guys are a prize. In fact, the women on the show should avoid them like the plague. 

[dubbel zout]

14 hours ago, jsbt said:

Do I find it surprising that the male of color who has appeared instead is a random newbie with no real ties

I'm sure we'll find out in a week or two that QB1 is related to Isaiah.

13 hours ago, tessaray said:

I have nothing against Gio (in theory)

He's got the personality of a golden retriever—cute, always happy, always sticking his nose into things. They need to find something for him to do or show him the door. He's one of the reasons people complain about cast bloat.

[dubbel zout]

5 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

And Sasha is, yet again, an afterthought. 

Hey, Holly left her a voicemail! I'm sure Robert sent a letter. *rme*

4 hours ago, DanaK said:

Legally, I’m not sure Dante can just take the kids since he and Sam weren’t married and, as far as I know, didn’t have a legal domestic partnership.

Legally I don't think Dante can take anyone except Rocco, who's his only bio kid of the bunch.

[Bringonthedrama]

27 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And Fuck off, Anna-I watched Night Shift II and both you and Robert proclaimed your love for each other.

And THIS is what JJ came back for? Seriously? I'd be better off trying to find all the show when we were introduced to him until Helena faked his death, at this point.

Okay, so I wasn't imaging that the storyline over the years has strongly implied, when it wasn't outright said, that Robert and Anna are the great loves of each other's lives.

Yes, I'm really disappointed in the writing for Lucky Spencer. The moment he knows Lulu isn't about to die and therefore his mother doesn't need him to hold her hand as she says good-bye, he's ready to leave when he doesn't even have a job/assignment waiting for him. I hate the attitude that well, I'm not my mother or sister's hero in this situation so why bother staying. Until Lulu wakes up (soon) the reason he is staying in Port Charles is because he's been shamed by his ex-wife into trying to build a relationship with his son. 

It's awful when you remember how Lucky loved being a dad to little Cameron and Jake and "prayed to God" that Aiden was his.

[GHScorpiosRule]

23 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Okay, so I wasn't imaging that the storyline over the years has strongly implied, when it wasn't outright said, that Robert and Anna are the great loves of each other's lives.

They might have not outright said "you are the love of my life" but while Robert was going undergoing treatment for his cancer, both were in tears as Anna told him "I LOVE YOU!" and he groaned "I LOVE YOU...MORE!"

It was so gut wrenching, so emotional. So Frank, Korte, and Van Etten and whoever is writing this dreck can MISS me about how Anna isn't the love of Robert's life.

[ciarra]

13 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Figuring out what marks to give the different members of the  group on a group project i always hard but I can't believe that that TA didn't factor in the fact that Trina's partner didn't show up at all.

I wondered how Trina got anything done for a group project, considering she returned to school in October.

[Daisy]

1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Yes, I'm really disappointed in the writing for Lucky Spencer. The moment he knows Lulu isn't about to die and therefore his mother doesn't need him to hold her hand as she says good-bye, he's ready to leave when he doesn't even have a job/assignment waiting for him. I hate the attitude that well, I'm not my mother or sister's hero in this situation so why bother staying. Until Lulu wakes up (soon) the reason he is staying in Port Charles is because he's been shamed by his ex-wife into trying to build a relationship with his son. 

 

it's making a lot of people happy because "He's just like Luuukkeeee"
miss me with that mess.  but sorry again I am sitting here alone at my table of one at the Greg Vaughan Lucky table before he got drug addicted (and after her got sober) her loved spending time with his kids and didn't want to be "just like Luke." so this just makes me maaaad. 

[KittenPokerCheater]

5 minutes ago, Daisy said:

"He's just like Luuukkeeee"

Like that's a good thing??  Luke was pretty awful, especially in his later years.

Just now, KittenPokerCheater said:

Like that's a good thing??  (I'm speaking of the people who love Luke). Luke was pretty awful, especially in his later years.

 

[driver18]

I mean, the bottom line is that the writing on the show is bad. The arcs are bad. The configurations are bad. The pairings are bad. The build-up to them is bad. The follow-through is bad. The romance is bad. There are no consequences for anyone. Family don't remember they're family. Friends don't remember their history. Plots come up, a big to-do is made of of them, then dropped for weeks.

For example: Two characters were murdered, one an actual FBI agent. The first...Austin who?  Didn't happen, don't know her. The second has been ignored even though we saw a main character shoot him, the FBI agent, in cold blood. And another "good guy" cover that up. Again, completely forgotten. He's now embroiled in charisma-less, no one cares, cheating shenanigans with his Stepford, cult-warped wife, tragedy-prone ex, and his creepy uncle.

Some individual scenes are good, sure. Some actors are good. However, it doesn't matter because stories wander aimlessly in search of a point, and then just peter off with a whimper. If they're lucky. Some don't end at all. They just fade away. 

Then there is the stupidity that runs rampant in nearly every single story that just the tiniest bit of research could help with, but nope.  Apparently that's too much to ask for.

I had hoped to be free of GH when they threw away Michael Easton, but they brought me back because of Jonathan Jackson. He's as great as he's ever been, but my goodness, the writing for Lucky, as it is for everything else, has been execrable.

[tessaray]

47 minutes ago, ciarra said:

I wondered how Trina got anything done for a group project, considering she returned to school in October.

The first time we heard about it, she was panicking because she couldn't get in touch with the guy. But there were a couple of things she said that made it sound like it was due or almost due. It was confusing.

A college athletic story hasn't been done in a while, has it? The writers usually gloss over the college years, show classes here and there then the characters graduate in record time. (Or they're offscreen forever.) I'm a bit surprised that Joss and Trina are still in school. Though if they're drinking legally Joss should be close to graduating. 

[Daisy]

38 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said:

Like that's a good thing??  Luke was pretty awful, especially in his later years.

right? like no need to grow or try to break the cycle. nope. he's like Luke so yippie skippy. 

[dubbel zout]

What's not to emulate and love about an alcoholic, gambling cheater?

[tessaray]

2 hours ago, JMO said:

Re: Lucky---Isn't this the second time since his return that Liz has had to challenge him?  It really is coming across like the writers don't know what to do with him, so they keep writing variations of the same scene.  Not that he doesn't deserve the lectures.  

Trying to think of any characters that I would describe as strong and upstanding, and right now I'm down to the Scorpio brothers and the latest model of Felicia.  

It is sad, especially with so many people looking forward to his return. But in a way, it feels truthful. Lucky returned to a PC that has moved on from him. If he stays, he has to make amends and a new start. So running away is his default. 

I would add Ned and Chase to the good guy list. Ned is a bit more gray but he's there for his kids now.

Edited November 13 by tessaray

[JMO]

Amen to all of what @driver18 wrote.  The writing is abysmal at every level, well beyond what an average actor can elevate.  It's true there have been a few good scenes, but we have precisely three people to thank for them:  Genie Francis, Jane Elliot and Nancy Lee Grahn.  Others, like Jon Lindstrom, Maura West and Cynthia Watros have either been given too little to do, or saddled with such drivel that even they can't rise above it.  

1 minute ago, tessaray said:

I would add Ned and Chase to the good guy list. 

Chase is a good guy, but I'm not sold on 'strong'.  I love Ned, but he is a schemer, which runs in his family.  I guess I could have added Dante, if he didn't have that weak spot for his dad.  For me, it's really only Robert and Mac who operate with clear eyes and determination.  Well, at least Robert had clear eyes and determination before this week.

[tessaray]

16 minutes ago, JMO said:

Chase is a good guy, but I'm not sold on 'strong'. 

After Gregory's death Chase was the one who held everything together. That took strength. He doesn't look the other way when it comes to the law either. At least not for more than a minute or two. For now, he's a Mac in training. 

You're right about Ned, of course. But he's done so little scheming outside of the ELQ/CEO thing and he's rock solid for his family. He's aged well, for a Quartermaine. 

I never considered adding Dante. He's a good dad but honestly, Sonny ruins everything. 

 

[FilmTVGeek80]

6 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I hated Felicia telling Sasha to give her mom another chance.  Maybe Maxie gave her mom another chance but that was probably more because of Felicia getting back together with Mac and her mom actually you know, being there.  Just because someone births you doesn’t mean you are indebted to them for life, especially if they’re assholes. 

It reminded me of the scene with Mac and Robert where they tried to compare Felicia’s past treatment of Mac to Holly’s treatment of Robert. Sure there’s a superficial comparison, but that’s it. Felicia is different than Holly in many ways. She was truly remorseful and worked to get Maxie and Mac’s forgiveness. More importantly, she changed and stuck around. Adventure didn’t take precedence over her family and she proved that. Holly, at this point has shown she will never put anyone above herself - unless literal life and death is on the line. She’s not truly sorry for anything she’s done because she keeps doing the same things over and over. 

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

it's making a lot of people happy because "He's just like Luuukkeeee"
miss me with that mess.  but sorry again I am sitting here alone at my table of one at the Greg Vaughan Lucky table before he got drug addicted (and after her got sober) her loved spending time with his kids and didn't want to be "just like Luke." so this just makes me maaaad. 

Table of two. 

[dubbel zout]

2 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Adventure didn’t take precedence over her family and she proved that.

She was also in Texas forever taking care of Mariah. I don't think that should be held against her.

[Francie]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

They might have not outright said "you are the love of my life" but while Robert was going undergoing treatment for his cancer, both were in tears as Anna told him "I LOVE YOU!" and he groaned "I LOVE YOU...MORE!"

It was so gut wrenching, so emotional. So Frank, Korte, and Van Etten and whoever is writing this dreck can MISS me about how Anna isn't the love of Robert's life.

They said (and I quote, from memory):

Robert: I always thought we'd find our way back together. 

Anna: I never doubted that for a minute. Not for a minute.*

That implies a 'greatest love.' I always appreciate whenever a character has more than one great love that they don't dismiss the other one. One love can be stronger, greater, better, and more controlling in the present. But that doesn't mean that the other relationship was a very loving one; and one doesn't not have to sh*t all over it to make the other one better. 

It always bothered me -- in a lazy story writing kind of way -- that they never had Anna and Robert ever discuss the fact their second marriage was never dissolved. Since Tristan's return after his 1992 exit, Robert and Anna have never talked about how they were bickering spouses and how he got on her nerves. But that's nothing near how their relationship was in their final year on GH at that time. 

That kind of description -- "I love you, but you annoy me at times" -- is closer to how Tristan and Finola see their own relationship. Tristan can be grumpy -- about anything and everything -- and Finola would take it in stride (it wasn't ever -- or hardly ever, if it ever was -- directed toward her), didn't take it personally, and largely dismissed it. 

*could have been second -- she never doubted it for a second. 

Edited November 13 by Francie
forgot the word 'never.' changes the meaning entirely. ;)

[FilmTVGeek80]

1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

She was also in Texas forever taking care of Mariah. I don't think that should be held against her.

Definitely not. But, I’m pretty sure after she was done with that she left again specifically because she thirsted for a life of adventure and didn’t want to stay around  in PC, even for her girls.

[YaddaYadda]

Lois is a total waste of space. Add Gio to that. What did these two contribute to today's episode other than nothing filler?

Drew is such a scumbag. I'm not a fan of the Curtises (I'm just gonna call Curtis and Portia that from here on out), but what he did to Curtis, putting him off like that to offer Michael, who he can talk to with a straight face after he banged his wife, was straight up cold.

Michael has a short memory. You and Willow slept together while she was married to Chase. You know, the best friend who almost died? That guy. remember? I appreciate Chase's maturity a lot more than whatever this thing with Michael is. 

Is it too much to hope that Drew is being written out?

Nina, you pathetic, you!!! 

Alexis is still breaking my heart.

Tomorrow: I haven't seen the preview, but I saw the weekly promo. All I can say is hit him baby one more time!

Edited November 13 by YaddaYadda

[Cool Breeze]

IIRC, Brian's (of Brian and Claudia) [standard-Port-Charles-deadbeat] dad was played by Sammy Davis, Jr.

[Francie]

They other funny aspect to this, and then I'll likely shut up and move on, is that so many Anna and Robert fans have been talking up "cargo baby" for years. Because Anna and Robert had been newlyweds when Faison kidnapped them. The cargo ship exploded, and Anna had amnesia for a decade. A jealous Faison could have raised the kid, local fishers could have nursed a horribly wounded Anna and taken the baby after its birth. Blah, blah, blah. In any event, the opening was there for a baby that neither Anna nor Robert knew anything about. 

Not this shoehorned Robert/Holly baby back at a time where we all saw Robert on screen being, "Get away from me, woman, I'm looking for my wife!" And then we saw Holly for the next nine months while she was dating Mac and then Bill Eckert. 

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

it's making a lot of people happy because "He's just like Luuukkeeee"
miss me with that mess.   

loved spending time with his kids and didn't want to be "just like Luke." so this just makes me maaaad. 

It means they believe the retcon because Luke adored tween Lucky, and vice versa. (The fall out over him finding out about Laura being raped happened years later.) Luke was thrilled when he found out he and Laura were having a baby girl. 

I remember JJ's Lucky and possibly also GV's Lucky saying they didn't want to be "like my old man."

I watched five minutes. Well, I see Jason has a big mad for Drew. I guess this is how Nina finds out that Drew is having sex with her daughter too. The only thing I liked about the preview is apparently Ned breaks up the brawl between his cousins. Ned should be in many more family scenes while Michael and Drew should be in many less.

 

 

 

[FilmTVGeek80]

38 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Is it too much to hope that Drew is being written out?

I’m not hoping for it, but today’s show made me start to wonder. It’s bad enough he slept with his nephew’s wife. Now, he’s screwing over his best friend. They even had Brennan today insinuate Drew had an ulterior motive in being with Carly. I don’t know if the show was being serious or Brennan was just trying to get a rise out of Carly. Either way, this feels like back up the truck writing, which I am not a fan of at all. 
 

Maybe I’ll be the only one to say it, but fuck Jason. I don’t care what Drew has done. I’m not rooting for that emotionally-constipated, serial killing hit man. He may never have slept with a relative’s partner (though I can’t remember if AJ and Courtney’s marriage was over before Jason swooped in) but he did steal his brother’s child and basically tell him fuck your feelings when said brother complained. That’s not any better. Jason can eat a bag of dicks. 

[dubbel zout]

There was an election in Port Charles? I didn't need to see it, but there was no mention it happened. LOL that Nina says Drew has to do it all over again in four years. Does no one on staff know the Constitution? 

Do I feel sorry for Michael? Not one iota. Of course Willow has no idea of the new nanny cam. (I can see her and Drew being careless enough to fuck in the nursery even if she did.)

Yes, Willow knows Drew so well to know he was thinking about Sam after his victory.

31 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Drew is such a scumbag. I'm not a fan of the Curtises (I'm just gonna call Curtis and Portia that from here on out), but what he did to Curtis, putting him off like that to offer Michael, who he can talk to with a straight face after he banged his wife, was straight up cold.

I dislike the Curtises enough that I'm glad to see the smug wiped off their faces, even if it's by scumbag Drew. I don't care that this makes me a petty bitch.

I see the rehab of Noted Bigot Natalia continues. It will never be complete for me until everyone stops blaming Ava for the release of the tape.

Kristina, go back to your foundation. Why is that not an option?

I don't care how many times the show tries to tell me: Jason was not forced to stay away from Port Charles and his family.

[Josh371982]

Drew wasn't thinking of Sam. He was thinking about getting some more of that Niece in law action. 🤢

I was saying over on FB that they could possibly do a whodunit if Drew was killed just the other day lol. 

[mostlylurking]

3 hours ago, Daisy said:

it's making a lot of people happy because "He's just like Luuukkeeee"
miss me with that mess.  but sorry again I am sitting here alone at my table of one at the Greg Vaughan Lucky table before he got drug addicted (and after her got sober) her loved spending time with his kids and didn't want to be "just like Luke." so this just makes me maaaad. 

And why would anyone want to be just like Luke the man was a mess!

I kind of loved Jason’s looks when Michael was telling him about what a horrible lying relationship Michael and his wife have.  You could practically see the thought bubbles saying “cripes” I had to go through all this bullshit with his mom and now I have to do it again with HIM?!”

ugh those stupid Drew Q is for You posters.  Bite me.

I’ve given up trying to figure out what time/day it’s supposed to be.

Edited November 13 by mostlylurking

[YaddaYadda]

29 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I dislike the Curtises enough that I'm glad to see the smug wiped off their faces, even if it's by scumbag Drew. I don't care that this makes me a petty bitch.

Eh, I'm a petty bitch too. I think that we all are on some level and that's okay. What's life without some pettiness sprinkled here and there?

I don't feel sorry for the Curtises either. But Drew's levels of scummy are so off the charts. I remember when Drew and Curtis were BFF, back in the BM days. 

And all the lines about how Drew must be thinking of Sam. Really? Pretty sure he's not. I'm shocked he didn't use her in the final stretch of his campaign to sell himself to single grieving fathers. But I guess she died a day too late for him to do that.

[Daisy]

1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I remember JJ's Lucky and possibly also GV's Lucky saying they didn't want to be "like my old man."

 

GV's Lucky stated it all the time. like i even remember during the Metrocourt crisis Luke was like come on cowboy, stop being a cop, your sister's in there let's movveeee. and GV'Lucky (did kind of capitulate, but it was basically after hours of Luke whining/begging for him to not be a cop

so Curtis doesn't get to be CEO of Aurora.

good. as you barely know anything about media that would be a dumb decision [as stated by Drew & Michael about why Ned couldn't run ELQ/Aurora merged]

[dubbel zout]

28 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

I kind of loved Jason’s looks when Michael was telling him about what a horrible lying relationship Michael and his wife have.  

It cracks me up that Jason has become the town agony aunt. First Diane, now Michael. Who's next, Carly whining about how Brennan is using her? Sonny wondering if Noted Bigot Natalia is contrite enough about her noted bigotry?

21 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I remember when Drew and Curtis were BFF, back in the BM days. 

I think we have to forget Billy Miller's Drew. He was a completely different person from the scumbag we see on the screen today.

[absnow54]

1 hour ago, mostlylurking said:

I kind of loved Jason’s looks when Michael was telling him about what a horrible lying relationship Michael and his wife have.  You could practically see the thought bubbles saying “cripes” I had to go through all this bullshit with his mom and now I have to do it again with HIM?!”

 

Jason actually exclaimed “What!?!” in an uncharacteristically bemused gossipy tone. Also Michael is such a loser he sent his uncle to fight his battles for him, as usual.

[TVbitch]

I'm sorry, but Gio and his OTT expressions make him come off like a highschool age doofus. 

Every time Lois walks into a room I start looking for my nail file or my crossword. Today it was my steam mop. (At least I got that done.) Does anyone care about whatever story(s) they keep trying to sputter to a start with her?! Meanwhile, they have JJ and he's barely on! It's agonizing!

 

[dubbel zout]

34 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

Also Michael is such a loser he sent his uncle to fight his battles for him, as usual.

Michael is SUCH a wienie.

23 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Meanwhile, they have JJ and he's barely on! It's agonizing!

He's  as interesting as Lois when he is on. I can't believe how they're squandering him and stories for Lucky.

[GHScorpiosRule]

26 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Meanwhile, they have JJ and he's barely on! It's agonizing!

 

2 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I can't believe how they're squandering him and stories for Lucky

Agree to both! But somehow with this regime, I should have known better.

I’m still catching up, but those scenes with Robert and Mac have me rage blackout. Why? Here we have the man who raised Robin as his daughter, telling Robert how Holly is perfect for him and hey, how awesome is Sasha(gag!), with NO MENTION of Robin-or Anna, as if neither exist.

And while I am no fan of the current iteration of Anna, when she’s in scenes with Holly-I see the Anna I loved and cheered for in the past. But I’m not looking forward to her dismissing her marriages to Robert, or how much they loved each other.

[YaddaYadda]

51 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Every time Lois walks into a room I start looking for my nail file or my crossword.

I don't know what kind of direction Rena Sofer is getting, but every time Gio shows up, she gets a look on her face with the camera zooming in.

If there's a storyline, then get on with it, or let's unload the dead weight.

[GHScorpiosRule]

UGH. Pain in your neck, you Pod!Anna? Fuck off.

No words for yesterday’s ending. No thought for Robin, Mac, Felicia, Lucky, Anna (despite her current attitude), LAURA.

FUCK YOU SHOW.