Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[DanaK]

More on the baseball preemptions this week. A preemption on the 3rd is not a given

https://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2024/09/abc-general-hospital-major-league-baseball-wild-card-series

[MarciNJ]

On 9/27/2024 at 6:48 PM, Winston Wolfe said:

but wasn't it Siobhan McKenna's

wow - bonus points to you for remembering her full name (even if you looked it up, bonus points for taking the time to do so!)

[MarciNJ]

19 hours ago, Sake614 said:

I wonder how long it will be before Laura and Kevin get home? Did anyone even get word to them that lucky is safe and en route to PC?

who is watching Ace all this time?

[YaddaYadda]

21 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

who is watching Ace all this time?

He's at the Q daycare.

[Mirabelle]

At least Laura asked one of the directors if Ace could stay instead of just dropping him off.

[General Days]

 

4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

He's at the Q daycare.

At first glance, I thought your user picture was Tracy Quartermaine* with a good stiff drink, which made your answer even funnier to me. 

 

 

 * For people who can't see it — it's Jessica Walter (I think in her Arrested Development role).

[YaddaYadda]

13 minutes ago, General Days said:

 * For people who can't see it — it's Jessica Walter (I think in her Arrested Development role).

Lucille Bluth owns my heart.

[Bringonthedrama]

Those dark-rimmed glasses really age Robert.

I thought Lucas called Laura to get Lucky's contact info to let him know Bobbie passed away? Now the story is he found out from an e-mail Carly sent? I like that he expressed regret for not being there when Aunt Bobbie died, just not to her. I also don't like that he saw her before his own mother, son and ex-wife.

But maaan, Lucky's flashback to his pre-teen self with infant Lulu got me right in the feels.  "Maybe if I had stayed and fought for my family..." JJ's Lucky crying over Lulu got me in the feels too.

 This nuAiden looks significantly older than the last 3 actors who played Aiden. And his sweet lines to Elizabeth about being Elizabeth's son also got me in the feels. Sounds like Lucky has been almost entirely absent from Aiden's life; about as present as Jason has been for Jake. And why not a single mention of Jake between Jason and Lucky? Glaringly odd.

Yay for Felicia bringing up Robin and Jason's past relationship, when Anna has been thinking of the kiss with Jason. 

Jason mansplaining/giving a vocabulary lesson to Carly was hilarious.

Elizabeth trying not to have feelings about Lucky's return, and then coming face-to-face with him in Bobbie's, is definitely a great cliffhanger.

For a moment, I thought Lucky wasn't a match. Geez Portia. 

 

Edited September 30 by Bringonthedrama

[Steph J]

On 9/28/2024 at 9:05 PM, jsbt said:

Carly is gonna join the DVX or Al Qaeda when she finds out. Or both.

It's gonna be so weird when the show starts pushing Al Queda as the group to be rooted for.

[dubbel zout]

Aside from Anna mooning over her kiss with Jason (oh, honey, NO), the show instantly picked up with everyone back from Somalia.

Brenner to Carly: We make a good team.
Me: What did Carly do except nag Brenner to do more? She's been awful until she heard to plane was in international airspace.

17 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

This nuAiden looks significantly older than the last 3 actors who played Aiden.

He does. I'd like to see him next to Hudson West to see if he looks like the youngest brother.

2 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

For a moment, I thought Lucky wasn't a match. Geez Portia.

That would be the more interesting option, IMO, but then they'd somehow make it that Carly was a match after all. She's already way too involved in this story the way it is.

[Cheyanne11]

20 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

For a moment, I thought Lucky wasn't a match. Geez Portia.

That would be the more interesting option, IMO, but then they'd somehow make it that Carly was a match after all. She's already way too involved in this story the way it is.

She'll probably end up performing the transplant surgery.  She does have a year of nursing school completed thirty years ago, after all.

[Sake614]

Looking at Portia’s face I was sure Lucky either wasn’t a match or wasn’t healthy enough for the surgery. That of course led me to the conclusion that Sam would end Up being the donor posthumously. So good on show for pulling that one off.

carly to Jason: what else happened while you were there?

me: if only you knew! 🤣

nice flashback with Lucky and baby Lulu. I wasn’t watching then but that baby was really cute! And I’m okay with him crying right now but so help me if it continues, I’m flying to LA and absconding with JJ to get him away from this shit!

[GHScorpiosRule]

Oh JEEBUS CRIPES ON A FUCKING CRACKER!

Cujo is the first one Lucky sees?! And the retcon bullshit of how Lucky found out about Bobbie? FUCK YOU, KORTE, VAN ETTEN, and FRANK!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Thank you Mac for ripping Holly a new one, because of course she’s scheming about diamonds again, AND FELICIA-keep reminding Anna about ROBIN AND JASON’S relationship.

Please do STFU Cujo and take several seats. Like Lucky needs or wants any of your kind of help to settle back in. And you had NOTHING to do with the drone strikes.

Aaaaand let’s just have everyone drag Lucky for filth, while blowing smoke up Jason’s ass, who was never any kind of father.🤬🤬🤬

That said, seeing wee Lucky had me in the FEELS as all the scenes with Lulu. As that LOOK between Lucky and Elizabeth at the end. Though, please. It hasn’t been 15 years. You saw him 9 years ago. And stop with the I’m not happy to see you expression while you’re at it.

[Winston Wolfe]

7 hours ago, MarciNJ said:

On 9/27/2024 at 6:48 PM, Winston Wolfe said:

but wasn't it Siobhan McKenna's

wow - bonus points to you for remembering her full name (even if you looked it up, bonus points for taking the time to do so!)

Thank you @MarciNJ - I actually didn't look it up. I'm one of those people who has a thing for remembering full names, lol.  Plus, the character was so polarizing on the board (I remember some folks calling her the "Irish Spitter"), her entire name kind of stood out. Particularly when it's spelled "Siobhan" and pronounced "Shavon."

[MarciNJ]

13 minutes ago, Winston Wolfe said:

Particularly when it's spelled "Siobhan" and pronounced "Shavon."

On Succession, they call that character Shiv.

[Sake614]

21 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

It hasn’t been 15 years. You saw him 9 years ago

For maybe 5 minutes before he left again. 

[Bringonthedrama]

3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Aaaaand let’s just have everyone drag Lucky for filth, while blowing smoke up Jason’s ass, who was never any kind of father.🤬🤬🤬

That said, seeing wee Lucky had me in the FEELS as all the scenes with Lulu. As that LOOK between Lucky and Elizabeth at the end. Though, please. It hasn’t been 15 years. You saw him 9 years ago. And stop with the I’m not happy to see you expression while you’re at it.

Who's everyone? I just saw Aiden dragging about Lucky not being in touch. Elizabeth said your dad loves you. Her behavior was approx. like when Jason showed up and Jake expressed anger toward and about his return. She's encouraging her son to have a relationship with his dad, if that's what he wants.

Elizabeth can only go by what Aiden is saying about Lucky not getting in touch, and the day 9 years ago when he returned Jake to her house and briefly visited with Aiden, before taking off again without a real goodbye to her.  The expressions struck me as uncertain about what to expect and how to feel about being around each other again after all these years, rather than not happy to see you.  Also she's concerned whether his presence will make Aiden happy or disappointment him, and I assume he's bracing himself for what he thinks he is going to get from her- an angry and disappointed confrontation about abandoning Aiden/the family, similar to his concussion hallucination of her. 

[Mirabelle]

Me to Carly:

[Cheyanne11]

Carly taking credit for saving Anna and Jason's lives--and thus Lucky returning--is just so on brand for her.  How she became the focal point of this story is utterly laughable.  I'm sure she'll be the first one Lulu sees when she inevitably wakes up.

Loved the little Lucky flashback.  Jonathan Jackson was such a find for this show.  And seeing that adorable face reminded me of one of my favorite scenes when he first came to PC:

Aunt Ruby: "You look just like your mother."

Lucky: "Dad says that's why I'm lucky."

[statsgirl]

The writers must have chiropractors on speed dial given how many knots they twist themselves into to make Carly the heroine of every. damn. story.

I know that many people want Lucky and Liz back together but I'd really like her to tell him "What you did was hurtful and I don't want to have anything to do with you until you get your head together and make amends. You can work out your relationship with Aiden."

[Bringonthedrama]

11 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

The writers must have chiropractors on speed dial given how many knots they twist themselves into to make Carly the heroine of every. damn. story.

🤣❤️💯

[Steph J]

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Loved the little Lucky flashback.  Jonathan Jackson was such a find for this show.  And seeing that adorable face reminded me of one of my favorite scenes when he first came to PC:

Aunt Ruby: "You look just like your mother."

Lucky: "Dad says that's why I'm lucky."

Aw man, I loved those initial scenes between JJ and Norma Connolly. It's been a few years now since the last time I rewatched that era of GH, but her asking if she could give him a hug and him saying he likes hugs has always stayed with me. There was so much warmth to the show during Labine's run, so much depth to the relationships, and Lucky was just instantly this fully formed and engaging character.

[ciarra]

I went downtown today.  When I got home, I wanted to shower and change.  I didn't travel from freakin' Africa and lounge around in the same clothes.  Lucky gets a pass for needing to get to GH, but the rest of them? 

[ulkis]

That. Was. Epic. I knew JJ and BH wouldn't disappoint me when they laid eyes on each other. My heart was pounding. 

[YaddaYadda]

10 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Carly taking credit for saving Anna and Jason's lives--and thus Lucky returning--is just so on brand for her.  How she became the focal point of this story is utterly laughable.  I'm sure she'll be the first one Lulu sees when she inevitably wakes up.

Of course she took credit. Carly is first and foremost a narcissist. She's also a complete sociopath. And she has the WSB guy wrapped around her finger, calling drone strikes when he isn't exactly allowed to do that. We make a good team. In what universe is that a good team. Reminded me of group projects where the lazy asshole inevitably takes the credit for everyone else's work. That's the person you look at and decide they shouldn't get to write a single line on the project.

I'm so tired of hearing how these people were in Africa, like Africa isn't a continent, but a whole ass country. Invent a fictional country in Africa if you don't want to use a real name.

And miss me with the whole Sidwell sucking the resources out of "Africa" in one person operation when we know damn well that those countries are still being raped by their former colonizers. Heck, France, Britain and so on won't even return the looted artifacts to those countries.

[Desperado]

8 hours ago, ciarra said:

I went downtown today.  When I got home, I wanted to shower and change.  I didn't travel from freakin' Africa and lounge around in the same clothes.  Lucky gets a pass for needing to get to GH, but the rest of them? 

That was a yuck, yes. Holly still looked great though.

Anyone see the Jason/Lucky exchange in the hospital?

L: “All this time and I’m… here.”

J: “I know what you mean.”

🤣

Would have to see it again, not sure if it was an adlib or in the script, but it was gold.

[KerleyQ]

It was nice to see JJ get to do some real scenes instead of sitting around that damn poker table for weeks on end. His scenes at Lulu's bedside and then his quiet work at Bobbie's were excellent and a reminder of how good he is. And, damn, he and BH have chemistry even when it's just him staring at the back of her head through a window. 

Oh, Anna, honey, no.  Although I'll own my hypocrisy. I hate that the kiss happened, but if Carly finds out, I will enjoy the hell out of her pain. 

How has Brennan become one of my favorite characters?  And can we please get more Brennan/Robert scenes going forward, show?  Please? 

Terry being an L&L2 shipper was fun. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

23 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

And, damn, he and BH have chemistry even when it's just him staring at the back of her head through a window. 

My heart! My HEART when they locked eyes and the look in Lucky’s said SO MUCH without JJ saying a word! I was like:

I don’t want to compare, but it’s just like Geary and Genie’s. I remember when she returned that last time, engaged to Scotty-you see her walking on the Haunted Star, and Luke is sitting on the steps. He looks up and sees Laura and he literally lighted up and her smile when she saw him. And the air crackled. 
 

And as I stated when it happened and stated the call back-when JJ’s Lucky found Jake and brought him back to Elizabeth-in that one brief scene you could see that JJ and Becky still had IT.

I’m looking forward to them finding their way back to each other. All the writers and Frank can just FUCK OFF.

[lilabennet]

Terry is a terrible friend. I do what I can to encourage my friends to steer clear of selfish, controlling, abusive jerks like Lucky. I had high hopes for Terry since she doesn't know Lucky at all, but count on GH's terrible writers to make sure that Elizabeth is surrounded by people who are Team Lucky or Team Lucky/Elizabeth as usual. It's been almost 3 decades of this shit. The only friends Elizabeth ever had that were worth a damn were Epiphany and Patrick and maybe Kelly Lee. They actually had her best interests in mind, not Lucky's.

On the subject of Elizabeth's "support system" being overwhelmingly Team Lucky: Emotional abusers try to curate their victim's social circle so that it only includes people who support the relationship. When Lucky accused Elizabeth of having an affair with Patrick in 2006, it felt very, very familiar. What better way to stop her friendship with somebody that would be only Team Elizabeth?

Edited October 1 by lilabennet

[YaddaYadda]

3 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

How has Brennan become one of my favorite characters?

I hate how far up Carly's ass his head is parked. That just sucks.

[Maelstrom]

58 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I hate how far up Carly's ass his head is parked. That just sucks.

It's required for all characters who aren't designated The Ultimate Evil (Nina, Ava, etc etc) 🤢

Edited October 1 by Maelstrom

[Bringonthedrama]

48 minutes ago, lilabennet said:

Terry is a terrible friend. I do what I can to encourage my friends to steer clear of selfish, controlling, abusive jerks like Lucky. I had high hopes for Terry since she doesn't know Lucky at all,

From what I could see, Terry only knows positive things about Lucky and their young relationship, from Elizabeth. She also knows Elizabeth has been through a lot: raising her sons through the relationship with Franco and then he was murdered, the on-again, off-again relationship with Finn that didn't end well and her eldest son going off to college during that time. Now Jake is off to college, so it's going to be just her and Aiden. That's a lot of upheaval. I don't think Terry is inherently wrong for getting Elizabeth to consider that maybe Lucky being back in Port Charles could mean something positive for her life and Aiden's. It's not like she was pressuring Elizabeth to ask Lucky out on a date next week.  Also note that his mother Laura and Elizabeth are close. It would make things difficult and awkward for Elizabeth's relationship with Laura if she went around consistently bringing up with the worst of Lucky's history whenever she spends time with Laura and Lucky, and the same for Aiden. 

I just don't see multiple characters being Lucky and Liz shippers right now. Carly's feeling triumphant that Lucky is back to save Lulu; she never cared about Lucky's relationship/marriage unless Jason had his eyes or hands on Elizabeth. Portia's focused on Lucky regarding his exams and tests results; I don't see her caring about them having a relationship unless they form a team to fight for Heather's freedom.  Jason hasn't said anything about Elizabeth; I could see him appearing jealous of Lucky in the future but he always has other priorities so I would be shocked if he actually made an effort to pursue Elizabeth. I don't think the possibility of his parents getting back together would even occur to Aiden because he's assuming that Dad will leave again once Aunt Lulu is okay. 

[KerleyQ]

3 hours ago, lilabennet said:

On the subject of Elizabeth's "support system" being overwhelmingly Team Lucky: Emotional abusers try to curate their victim's social circle so that it only includes people who support the relationship.

I've got to ask - when has Lucky had the time and opportunity to curate Liz's social circle?  He literally just met Terry and Portia, and they were all focused on Lulu. 

[Tenshinhan]

9 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I'm so tired of hearing how these people were in Africa, like Africa isn't a continent, but a whole ass country. Invent a fictional country in Africa if you don't want to use a real name.

And miss me with the whole Sidwell sucking the resources out of "Africa" in one person operation when we know damn well that those countries are still being raped by their former colonizers. Heck, France, Britain and so on won't even return the looted artifacts to those countries.

To be fair, this time around the show did at least make some effort by stating that the region was "East Africa", and that Sidwell had been operating out of Somalia.

[lilabennet]

45 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

I've got to ask - when has Lucky had the time and opportunity to curate Liz's social circle?  He literally just met Terry and Portia, and they were all focused on Lulu. 

I was referring to Emily, Nik, Laura, and Bobbie.

Edited October 1 by lilabennet

[KerleyQ]

3 hours ago, lilabennet said:

I was referring to Emily, Nik, Laura, and Bobbie.

OK, but Emily and Bobbie? Dead.  Nik, Laura, and Bobbie?  All Lucky's family, the people who are kind of supposed to talk him up. Also, Nik hasn't been pro-L&L2 since the day he started banging Liz. And Laura seems to fully understand that Liz and Lucky aren't together anymore, last I saw. The only person in Liz's current life who has been remotely pro-Lucky since they announced JJ's return has been Terry, who Lucky did not "curate." 

(Edited because I confused Nik and Spencer for a second, there. Nik is, of course, still alive.) 

Edited October 2 by KerleyQ

[Ambrosefolly]

3 hours ago, lilabennet said:

I was referring to Emily, Nik, Laura, and Bobbie.

Bobbie was “curated” because Liz was freaked out after she was rape and Bobbie was a medical professional. Maybe because the writing had more depth, but the first iteration of LnL2 was only a couple years. She formed other relationships outside of the 4 Musketeers, especially when she became a nurse in 2005. Yes, Lucky had issues with Patrick and Jason(especially when he was high as a kite), but he didn’t police her friendships, especially with other women like Robin and Ephinany. Plus, when Emily took sides, it was mostly on Liz’s, especially when it involved her asshole brother Jason.

[Daisy]

30 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

OK, but Emily, Nik, and Bobbie? All dead.  Nik, Laura, and Bobbie?  All Lucky's family, the people who are kind of supposed to talk him up. Also, Nik hasn't been pro-L&L2 since the day he started banging Liz. And Laura seems to fully understand that Liz and Lucky aren't together anymore, last I saw. The only person in Liz's current life who has been remotely pro-Lucky since they announced JJ's return has been Terry, who Lucky did not "curate." 

honestly i'll just be dead honest. it isn't so much the whole "Lucky is abusive why is everyone pushing Liz towards him."  belief (which you know  - a lot of people believe that which is fair)  and the everyone is pushing Liz to Lucky. (which I agree with you his family are supposed to do that ) - but it would be nice when people are rehashing LL2 history and wanting him hung by his toes- they would also remember that Liz treated Lucky like crap too. It 100 percent was not a 1 way street. 

[KerleyQ]

7 minutes ago, Daisy said:

 but it would be nice when people are rehashing LL2 history and wanting him hung by his toes- they would also remember that Liz treated Lucky like crap too. It 100 percent was not a 1 way street. 

Exactly. I love them both, but they've both absolutely fucked up over the years. If they get back together (and I hope they do), it will be two grown ass adults who are fully aware of the shit they've both done in the past. 

I also hope we get a little more nuance in all of this as it goes forward. Like, I can absolutely see Aiden feeling hurt that his father hasn't been coming around for years, and also fearing that, once Lulu is all better, he'll just skip town again. But we've had writing over the years that indicated he was in communication with him, at minimum. So they shouldn't play this like they don't know each other at all. 

[Bringonthedrama]

3 hours ago, lilabennet said:

I was referring to Emily, Nik, Laura, and Bobbie.

Okay, now I'm confused. IIRC, at the time of her death Emily had figured out that infant Jake was Jason's son and was a Jason and Elizabeth shipper. She still considered Lucky to be her oldest friend but wanted her brother and Elizabeth to be happy. Nik, as KerleyQ states below, hasn't been in favor of Elizabeth and Lucky getting back together since before he and Elizabeth kissed the first time. In fact, he was very resentful/jealous when Lucky and Elizabeth were engaged and he realized they'd had sex (which resulted in Aiden's conception). I can't even remember the last time Bobbie and Lucky had a scene together, or the last time Bobbie and Elizabeth discussed the L&L2 relationship. I know it was before JJ returned to the role in Fall 2009, because I remember being mad that adult JJ's Lucky and Aunt Bobbie never got to see each other - not even when she could have been a great support to her nephew and Elizabeth at the time of the "Jake dies/is Josslyn's kidney donor" storyline. IIRC Laura was "wig on a stick" for most of the time that GV was in the role of Lucky and did not return to Port Charles to live until after JJ left the role of Lucky in December 2011. (It was something that Luke said to Elizabeth, invoking Laura's name, that triggered Elizabeth to think she should take GV's Lucky back when he was struggling.) Laura and Lucky got to see each other very briefly during Geary's 2015 retirement storyline, and Laura and Elizabeth have seen each other much more from 2015 to present, but Laura has never encouraged Elizabeth to put her life on hold in the hopes that Lucky would come back to Port Charles and want to reunite. In fact, I flat-out hated that she was pro-Franco and Elizabeth. 

49 minutes ago, KerleyQ said:

OK, but Emily, Nik, and Bobbie? All dead.  Nik, Laura, and Bobbie?  All Lucky's family, the people who are kind of supposed to talk him up. Also, Nik hasn't been pro-L&L2 since the day he started banging Liz. And Laura seems to fully understand that Liz and Lucky aren't together anymore, last I saw. 

Correction: OG actor for Nikolas, Tyler Christopher, is dead. Third or 4th re-cast Nikolas is in prison and is sort of mooning over Ava, the last time he was on-screen this year. I agree that Laura understands Elizabeth and Lucky aren't together anymore. She has most recently seen Elizabeth and the boys with Finn and Violet, although I'm sure she knows about the break-up and that Finn went off to rehab. 

[KerleyQ]

6 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Correction: OG actor for Nikolas, Tyler Christopher, is dead. Third or 4th re-cast Nikolas is in prison and is sort of mooning over Ava,

I did go back and correct that. I was confusing Nik and Spencer. I'm not sure why people who are quoting it after I fixed it are still getting the original version. 

[Daisy]

1 hour ago, KerleyQ said:

Exactly. I love them both, but they've both absolutely fucked up over the years. If they get back together (and I hope they do), it will be two grown ass adults who are fully aware of the shit they've both done in the past. 

I also hope we get a little more nuance in all of this as it goes forward. Like, I can absolutely see Aiden feeling hurt that his father hasn't been coming around for years, and also fearing that, once Lulu is all better, he'll just skip town again. But we've had writing over the years that indicated he was in communication with him, at minimum. So they shouldn't play this like they don't know each other at all. 

 

yeah. Like i mean I'll be honest, and I stated as much i'm not really here for LL2 and I'm ehmeh on JJ's Lucky (I'm sorry GHScorpiosRule!!) - and it's not even againsst JJ himself just. not feeling it. I would really like them to do what Jason and Carly can't. Just acknowledge that there's always going to be something between them, but it's better off that they just grow up, and not be together. they'll be connected because of Aiden but that's all there should be. we don't see that very often on soaps and I think it would be so healing for the both of them.

But i'm also not going to deny those two don't have IT and it was in spades, so lap it up y'all. (I'm just hoping YT shows some of it. it's been v. wonky lately so i am only living off what y'all tell me. i'm already bitter because they've been removing some really classic stuff lately)

Anyhoo I hope y'all get the soapy growth relationship y'all yearning for.  

[Bringonthedrama]

19 minutes ago, Daisy said:

not feeling it. I would really like them to do what Jason and Carly can't. Just acknowledge that there's always going to be something between them, but it's better off that they just grow up, and not be together. they'll be connected because of Aiden but that's all there should be. we don't see that very often on soaps and I think it would be so healing for the both of them.

Eh, Elizabeth and Lucky aren't comparable to Jason and Carly at all IMO. Carly will always stick her nose in Jason's business, yearn to be with Jason, depended on him to help with Michael and the rest of her kids, and at the times she hasn't had Jason to depend on daily, she's had a stand-in (hi, CM's Drew). They haven't ever had a regular healthy romantic relationship; it was sex and then Carly repeatedly trying to take Jason away from Robin and using Michael to try to force Jason to choose her. Their "friendship" over the years has been 90% about Carly needs. 

Elizabeth, on the other hand, has raised her kids without Lucky's presence since Aiden was a baby, and he's now supposed to be about 14 years old. She and Lucky dated and loved each other, were married, had a family. They became dysfunctional yes, but their relationship didn't start with lying to everyone. Elizabeth genuinely moved on with other relationships; she hasn't been pining for Lucky all this time. I'm sure Lucky knows from Aiden (and from Elizabeth answering the phone at GH, "Nurse Elizabeth Baldwin") that she re-married and it wasn't to Jason or Nikolas. I think Lucky is definitely still in love with Elizabeth, but it's clear that he's not just expecting that she'll want to get back together. 

[ulkis]

15 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

Terry being an L&L2 shipper was fun. 

She was adorable on Monday, running over to gossip. 

[Daisy]

6 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Eh, Elizabeth and Lucky aren't comparable to Jason and Carly at all IMO. Carly will always stick her nose in Jason's business, yearn to be with Jason, depended on him to help with Michael and the rest of her kids, and at the times she hasn't had Jason to depend on daily, she's had a stand-in (hi, CM's Drew). They haven't ever had a regular healthy romantic relationship; it was sex and then Carly repeatedly trying to take Jason away from Robin and using Michael to try to force Jason to choose her. Their "friendship" over the years has been 90% about Carly needs. 

Elizabeth, on the other hand, has raised her kids without Lucky's presence since Aiden was a baby, and he's now supposed to be about 14 years old. She and Lucky dated and loved each other, were married, had a family. They became dysfunctional yes, but their relationship didn't start with lying to everyone. Elizabeth genuinely moved on with other relationships; she hasn't been pining for Lucky all this time. I'm sure Lucky knows from Aiden (and from Elizabeth answering the phone at GH, "Nurse Elizabeth Baldwin") that she re-married and it wasn't to Jason or Nikolas. I think Lucky is definitely still in love with Elizabeth, but it's clear that he's not just expecting that she'll want to get back together. 

yeah i know all of that. l just mean. at the end of the day you would never expect that conversation in any shape or form coming from Carly or Jason (and THEY need it lol) it would just be nice if Lucky and Liz had it (even if it went as soapy as they both agree, Lucky leaves and 2 seconds later there's a knock at the Door and he's there, and they start making out or something lol) 

[dubbel zout]

13 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

But we've had writing over the years that indicated he was in communication with him, at minimum. So they shouldn't play this like they don't know each other at all. 

They sort of addressed this when Elizabeth said she knew that video calls and emails aren't the same as talking in person. I think that's a valid point, and we don't know how often they contacted each other. Jake made the specific point that it was always Lucky who made the first move, so things were always on his schedule. Also valid, given where Lucky was and what he was doing, but it probably wouldn't have been so difficult to set up a regular call.

What annoys most about all of this is that the dads are let off the hook for being terrible parents, Oh, they get a few people scolding them, but if a mom acted the same way, she'd be tarred and feathered, drawn and quartered, and burned at the stake. All at the same time. 

Edited October 2 by dubbel zout

[GHScorpiosRule]

22 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Jake made the specific point that it was always Lucky who made the first move, so things were always on his schedule.

I think you mean Aiden. And this is a retcon, because back when it was happening, there was nothing that Aiden had to be the one to initiate, and of course to explain Aiden's absence one Christmas, they at least said he was with Lucky in Ireland.

But for the dramaaaaz, now it's Lucky never called or emailed, Aiden had to be the one chasing after him, blah, blah, blah, fishcakes.

[Cheyanne11]

3 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And this is a retcon, because back when it was happening, there was nothing that Aiden had to be the one to initiate

I don't think that's a retcon at all.  Just because it was never flat-out stated doesn't mean it's not true.  Nothing was said either way to make it seem like Lucky was super-involved.  As was said, video chats/emails aren't the same thing as being there.  As a kid, Aiden probably craved any attention he got from his dad and as he got older, he realized what he was missing.

[dubbel zout]

Aidan, Jake, Danny, Rocco—they are all interchangeable for me, ha!

[KittyQ]

On 9/23/2024 at 12:17 PM, statsgirl said:

Do I care about Portia, worried for some reason that Brad is back in the GH lab? Nope. She should be glad, if the switched blood tests are caught, Brad will be blamed.

(Just catching up on last week's shows) 

I didn't think of this. I just thought that it was amazing that Portia would be worried about Brad's issues with changing records. Pot vs. Kettle, I thought. Also, the conversation about Brad being back with Terri - I agree that Terri should have informed Portia, not because of any personal reasons, but in general I think they should be sharing personnel issues (hiring, firing, etc.). Although, if there was a regular report containing this information, then Portia should be reading it regularly, so if she missed this, that's on her. 

I also thought that Portia seems to be under the impression that everyone should be looking out for her interests in terms of who is in or out of prison, the hospital, and so on. 

Trina was asking all the questions that Portia should have thought of before changing those results! How likely would "naturally occurring" cobalt poisoning coincide with a known issue with the hip replacement material so that Heather would be more likely to be affected by it?