All Episodes Talk: Let’s Talk About Dr Phil the Show

[Toaster Strudel]

I'm totally with you on the outrage about the 'mother' who was a veritable monster. I'm glad they were laughing after they killed Gypsy's cruel tormentor.
 

The medical profession really dropped the ball. Did they care only about the profits? How did doctors end up installing a feeding tube, for years, in a healthy person?

It's really sad that she was born into a hostage situation with her own mother as her captor, and then she ends up in jail.  How else could she have escaped? She couldn't call the police, alert a doctor... she was branded as developmentally delayed.

Edited November 25, 2017 by Toaster Strudel

[parrotfeathers]

I watched both episodes today.  So easy to second guess.  So much the boy could have done to reveal this sham before killing the woman.  What an easy out for her it was.  Now she doesn't get her real punishment.  The girl had access to her computer.  I just wonder why she didn't contact a TV reporter and let them know.  But she managed to meet this dude in the bathroom for sex.  She could have stood up in the movie theatre and walked and said "I can walk!"  They were all disturbed.  

Edited November 25, 2017 by parrotfeathers

[Pondlass1]

How often did she see her father?  Did she stay with him for periods of time?  Did she walk when she stayed with him?  Why didn't he figure something was wrong?

I don't know if Dr. Phil had been cautioned or censored in terms of the questions he could ask... but he didn't ask the obvious questions imo.  I wish he'd had the father on the show not just clips.

There should be avenues for doctors suspecting parents of having Munchhausen to report their suspicions to the authorities.  But in this case  nothing was done.  Just transfer to another doctor.  It's all so strange.  And having perfectly good teeth removed - her saliva glands removed... who does this without testing first?

And how much money was the mother making from all this? I didn't realize the government payout for handicapped children was so exorbitant.  I would have thought it easier for the mother to just get a job.

[AZChristian]

41 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

How often did she see her father?  Did she stay with him for periods of time?  Did she walk when she stayed with him?  Why didn't he figure something was wrong?

I don't know if Dr. Phil had been cautioned or censored in terms of the questions he could ask... but he didn't ask the obvious questions imo.  I wish he'd had the father on the show not just clips.

There should be avenues for doctors suspecting parents of having Munchhausen to report their suspicions to the authorities.  But in this case  nothing was done.  Just transfer to another doctor.  It's all so strange.  And having perfectly good teeth removed - her saliva glands removed... who does this without testing first?

And how much money was the mother making from all this? I didn't realize the government payout for handicapped children was so exorbitant.  I would have thought it easier for the mother to just get a job.

Mama spent a lot of time "doctor-shopping."  As soon as one turned her down for a surgery request, she'd go to another doctor.  I suspect she was on Medicaid for medical treatment, and the government is notorious for NOT finding out fake claims.  That's why some doctors rake in millions of dollars in false payments.  Not enough government employees are looking for fraud.

Dad?  Do you really think Mama was allowing him anywhere near the kid?  If he had other kids (I wasn't paying close attention), it was easier for him to focus on that life, since Mama and daughter were being taken care of financially by the rest of us.

Habitat for Humanity got scammed big time.  If Mama were still alive and this story came out, they should have sued her for falsely profiting from them.

I must say this, though.  I had really bad belly pain one day and went to the emergency room.  They did an ultrasound and found gallstones.  They suggested I see a surgeon.  I had been to a general surgeon for a minor issue, so called his office.  Got an appointment the following Monday and told him what happened.  He pressed on my tummy a bit (the gallstone attack was over), and I just told him where it had hurt - although I was no longer in pain.  What I did say was, "I'm leaving on a cruise in 10 days, and this needs to be dealt with right away so I don't have another attack on the ship.  He asked me, "Did you have breakfast this morning?"  "Yes."  "Well, then, I can't do it today.  Meet me at the outpatient surgical center tomorrow, and we'll take it out."  So he took out my gallbladder with no actual testing that he had seen that proved what I was saying.  Maybe that's how Mama got things done.  And if one doctor won't believe her, she goes to another.

[Gigi43]

I rarely watch Phil but I  saw a commercial  for the Gypsy episode  and it caught my attention. I understand that there are inefficient  greedy doctors out there. I have a hard time with the fact that the mom said "Gypsy can't  eat" and they put in a feeding  tube (and I think had the fundiplication that goes with it.) That's a really  big decision.  I don't remember it but I was very sick as a baby because of a neuromuscular  condition I had trouble  both breathing and swallowing. The decision  to give me a tracheostomy was less invasive  and the doctors/my parents  waited almost a year before taking  that step. There are other methods they used first. No one suggested Gypsy have an eating therapist?  I had one once I was about 3 to build up swallowing  muscles. I didn't catch if Phil had actual documentation or just Gypsy's word. Also the way Gypsy described  having  the tube changed was misleading. I never went  to an ER other was done in my house first by a nurse than my mother. Hell even when I had it taken out for good my doctor just did it in his office and I went  to school the next day (though  I did eventually  have the hole closed during another surgery since it didn't completely close.) I watched most of the HBO special this weekend  after seeing this and I didn't see actual evidence  of  it. Of course I could have  missed it. Also the diagnosis  of  Muscular Distrophy would probably  be a second, third and fourth  guessed since it's very rarely found in females. That's some run with shady physicians.

 

Also the walking is suspect. She had to be allowed to walk in her house to be able to walk as well as she could with out trouble from lack of use. In the HBO version she dressed up as a "sexy" personality to send to the boyfriend. It was a costume that didn't fit at all with the other ones the mother would  let her have. So she had to have a bit more freedom to do that plus talk to a guy on the Internet. No doubt from the head shaving, teeth and pictures in the chair means the mother put her through terrible things yet the way Gypsy is describing everything seems heightened.

Edited November 26, 2017 by Gigi43

[marionette]

The show about Gypsy left me scratching my head.  She said herself that she has developed into a very good liar.  If she wasn't allowed to do anything or go anywhere, where did she get those costumes and makeup?  Her mother (if the story is completely true) would not have allowed her little girl to have such things.  The whole story is really troubling because I suspect that Gypsy was part of the whole scam.  There is no one left to disclaim anything she says.  Also, how does someone with no education know how to use a computer and make pornographic messages?  Something does not compute here.

[flyingdi]

Maybe the whole boyfriend thing was some sort of new scam Dee Dee was trying out that blew up in her face.  After all, a boyfriend for Gypsy could have provided a new source of income now that Gypsy was growing up.

[Toaster Strudel]

Feel free to delete the rapper episode un-watched. The show is a complete waste of time with a male 'rapper' version of cash-me-ousside and the last quarter is TD Jake religious propaganda.

[charmed1]

I'm not sure what the purpose of the pet food family episode was, but I'm sure there was no reason for Phillip to show the guests a giant Jumbotron photograph of his precious grandchildren. 

Good luck to the smack addict, I guess. She looks like she's at death's door. I held my breath thinking he just might be crazy enough to peddle some of his wife's skin cream to her, but he didn't. Since she was shown just as the credits were rolling, I'm assuming he squeezed in her segment to compensate for the first guests not showing up. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Feel free to delete the rapper episode un-watched. The show is a complete waste of time with a male 'rapper' version of cash-me-ousside and the last quarter is TD Jake religious propaganda.

I think all this guy needs is a facial mask, deep clean cleansing refresh, toning spray (in the bottle Robyn designed) and some youth serum. 

After he slaps all this on his puss just wait and see how many producers of rap music come knocking on his door. 

[marionette]

I think the comments above really sum up what this show has become.  It is just Phil and his family business.  He does not care at all about any of the guests.  You can see that he is just putting up with them until it is time to flog scarecrow's miracle products.  He becomes all animated as soon as this happens.  It is just sickening.  The show has become a joke.  I cannot believe that someone that is supposedly a doctor can be so insensitive to people that are suffering.  I enjoy watching shows that delve into human problems and seeing some of them get the help they need.  I would watch anyone that did this so Phil can retire anytime soon so someone else can have a turn.  Maybe they wouldn't have skinny to parade around and not have MysonJay who is a publisher or numerous tiny gorgeous bottles of miracle product that were personally developed, but hey, I can live with that.....
 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, marionette said:

I think the comments above really sum up what this show has become.  It is just Phil and his family business.  He does not care at all about any of the guests.  You can see that he is just putting up with them until it is time to flog scarecrow's miracle products. 
 

This is exactly right.

It's as if he's annoyed that he has to get through the first forty minutes so that the last twenty can be used for hawking products and/or relatives.

I saw the David Cassidy rerun yesterday.  I am so sad.  But I was annoyed that he mentioned his interview was David's last...over seven times.

Cheap Phony Huckster.

[cooksdelight]

I missed yesterday’s episode about the girl who’s out of control, loopy as hell, etc. Did anyone watch? I saw the previews and meant to record it but forgot.

[DuckyinKy]

1 hour ago, PsychoKlown said:

This is exactly right.

It's as if he's annoyed that he has to get through the first forty minutes so that the last twenty can be used for hawking products and/or relatives.

I saw the David Cassidy rerun yesterday.  I am so sad.  But I was annoyed that he mentioned his interview was David's last...over seven times.

Cheap Phony Huckster.

And how Dr. Phil said how in his professional opinion, David was impaired, and how he was offered the BEST care from the BEST doctors, but he declined any help. I mean he's gone,  you were cashing in on his situation when David was alive, now he's gone and you are still cashing in. C'mon dude, it's called "Rest in Peace." 

[ClareWalks]

1 hour ago, cooksdelight said:

I missed yesterday’s episode about the girl who’s out of control, loopy as hell, etc. Did anyone watch? I saw the previews and meant to record it but forgot.

There was some Trump related shit that pre-empted it, I think. After that ended they showed David Cassidy. Looks like it will be aired on Friday!

[Monie]

1 hour ago, PsychoKlown said:

This is exactly right.

It's as if he's annoyed that he has to get through the first forty minutes so that the last twenty can be used for hawking products and/or relatives.

I saw the David Cassidy rerun yesterday.  I am so sad.  But I was annoyed that he mentioned his interview was David's last...over seven times.

Cheap Phony Huckster.

it is really him getting through 20 minutes of air time since there is a commercial every 4 minutes!...ugh

[cooksdelight]

39 minutes ago, ClareWalks said:

There was some Trump related shit that pre-empted it, I think. After that ended they showed David Cassidy. Looks like it will be aired on Friday!

Thanks, I’ll set the DVR!

[Gam2]

I’ve seen the David Cassidy episodes twice now (both days). I don’t need Phil to show them again. Let the man Rest In Peace.

[charmed1]

I have no understanding of today's guest's disorder. How on earth do you have an entire boyfriend when you're asleep for 90% of the day? How do you apply a full face of perfect Snooki make-up if you're getting ready in the dark? Why and when did you have a semi-professional photography session in the creek if you felt you're too ugly to be seen in the light of day? I personally hate taking pictures because I think my smile is too gummy and I hate the way I look in photos. I'll be damned if I'm arranging a honky tonk photo shoot down by the river to show off my chompers. Why do you care if said boyfriend is looking at other women? You're asleep for 90% of the day. Does it really matter? I thought for sure, this would be the perfect guest to pawn Robin's face crap shit to, but alas, she's just going to rehab. 

I also thought it was pretty shitty of Phillip to show unflattering photos of his "friends" without makeup on his Jumbotron. Especially when those photos are clearly from one of those "look how fug these celebrities are without makeup" websites that his young staff probably googled.

Edited November 30, 2017 by charmed1

[Madding crowd]

If this woman was too "ugly" to leave her house, how was she getting all the glam shots done? She has a good gig- her boyfriend and mother pay all het bills while she lays around all day. I didn't don't believe this one at all. 

[ClareWalks]

Yeah, this is an epidemic nowadays of girls who claim they feel hideous when they clearly just want compliments. They post photos on Instagram of some duck faced glamour shot with the caption "so ugly" so that people will say "omg ur beautiful." If she really thought she was ugly, she wouldn't post pics online, especially if she supposedly wears a disguise to go outside.

[Guest]

22 hours ago, Madding crowd said:

She has a good gig- her boyfriend and mother pay all het bills while she lays around all day. 

What the hell am I doing wrong? 

I have to go to work five days a week.

[iHateAmpersands]

9 hours ago, ClareWalks said:

If she really thought she was ugly, she wouldn't post pics online, especially if she supposedly wears a disguise to go outside.

More importantly, if she really thought she was ugly she wouldn't have gone on a nationally-syndicated talk show in the first place.

Edited December 1, 2017 by iHateAmpersands

[charmed1]

On 11/29/2017 at 11:19 PM, Madding crowd said:

If this woman was too "ugly" to leave her house, how was she getting all the glam shots done? She has a good gig- her boyfriend and mother pay all het bills while she lays around all day. I didn't don't believe this one at all. 

Oh remember she receives disability checks too.

I don't know if the kidnapped model was telling the truth or not. Phillip clearly thought she was lying. She was so dead eyed and monotone, she reminded me of Saturday Night Live's Gemma character. 

[Phoebe70]

I don't believe the kidnapped model's story for a minute.  She didn't tell the police that she went shopping with the guy because "she was too tired," then she said it was because she was brainwashed.  Her story had more holes in it than a bowl of Cheerios.  She needs to be prosecuted for perjury.

[cooksdelight]

She’s on disability??? For what??? I’m with PsychoKlown, what am I doing wrong?

A young girl rented part of our former home, for about 3 months. She left in the middle of the night because she’d moved in with a boyfriend and his family, without telling us. Next thing, she’s posting that they’re engaged. A week later he’s in the hospital after trying to commit suicide. She quits a good-paying job to go to FL and work in a mall after breaking up with him. And she’s constantly posting how ugly or dumb she is. I fully expect her to be on this show one day.

I don’t believe the kidnapped model either. I think she was looking for publicity, sympathy, more modeling jobs.

[Phoebe70]

Guess what today's episode is about.....another out-of-control teenager!  Who woulda thunk it?

Dr. Phil needs some new topics.  The drunk, pot-smoking teenager shtick is getting tiresome.

[Toaster Strudel]

11 hours ago, iHateAmpersands said:

More importantly, if she really thought she was ugly she wouldn't have gone on a nationally-syndicated talk show in the first place.

I wonder if the show would have happened if she had been truly ugly?

Dr Phil interviews are usually duds and kidnapped model was a case in point.  I just didn't care if her story is true or not. I couldn't make sense of anyone's motives. Maybe the guy was just a perv and there was no selling people. Who knows. That woman made for terrible TV, except for the tin foil high heel boots.

[Madding crowd]

Phil does those interviews because he thinks he will get a shocking confession no one else had heard. He never does. I thought the model was lying about some things but we will probably never know the truth.

[Toaster Strudel]

Whatever the opposite of charisma is, that woman had it in spades. I'm not even curious to know the truth, LOL.

[Phoebe70]

17 minutes ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Whatever the opposite of charisma is, that woman had it in spades. I'm not even curious to know the truth, LOL.

Yep.  Could she be any more boring and monotone?  No wonder the so-called kidnappers gave her back!

[Jax7917]

That girl is so full of shit. If anyone went through that traumatic story, they would be filled with emotion while telling it. This girl looked it was just another day telling another lie. Zero emotion on her face except the smirk she had for thinking Phil believed her lies.

[cooksdelight]

I wish someone would interview the wife/mom who disappeared for 22 days, was found on the side of Interstate 5, with a bizarre story of being kidnapped. Not too long after she’s been chatting with a man she had been staying in touch with after her marriage. Why no ransom call? Why let her go at all? What was up with the bizarre tattoo?

[Madding crowd]

I was just thinking of this woman. I would love to find out more of her story.

[Wings]

Check out reviews for PNP center and Origins.  They are mixed, of course, with negative taking the lead.  It is what the compliant are that tells the story.  

I don't see how the 17 year old today will get help from Dr Lawless and his PNP joint.  I doubt they ever see him, not that it matters. 

[Pondlass1]

On 12/1/2017 at 8:34 AM, Phoebe70 said:

Dr. Phil needs some new topics. 

I agree.  I'd like to see some follow up stories.  He's always sending people off to these places but we never hear any more about them.  Was anyone actually helped?

I guess I'm alone in believing the model kidnapping story.  I've read somewhere that when relating something horrid for the thousandth time the voice and demeanour become monotone and without emotion.   

[ClareWalks]

If Dr Phil must cover the same theme over and over, I wish he'd ditch the "my beautiful daughter is out of control" and do more "my grandma is being catfished by a Nigerian prince!"

[jacksgirl]

Shill pissed me off more than usual today. How can he diagnose that the crazy 17 year old didn' t have ADHD or bi-polar disorder? Because he asked her 10 questions and took notes?  He is an amazing doctor! Couldn't tell if girl was a huge drama queen, had mental health issues or both,  but there was something very wrong with her. Shil is a hack.

[Wings]

45 minutes ago, jacksgirl said:

Shill pissed me off more than usual today. How can he diagnose that the crazy 17 year old didn' t have ADHD or bi-polar disorder? Because he asked her 10 questions and took notes?  He is an amazing doctor! Couldn't tell if girl was a huge drama queen, had mental health issues or both,  but there was something very wrong with her. Shil is a hack.

He actually said that if she was given meds for an incorrect diagnosis it could cause damage.  He didn't know but doubted some of the diagnosis because she was far to young when they were made.      

I could clearly tell that she was not just a drama queen looking for attention.  There is something wrong there.  

Where I take issue with Dr Phil is where he sends his guests for help.  As I said above I just don't think the 2 places he uses are necessarily the right choice.  

1 hour ago, ClareWalks said:

If Dr Phil must cover the same theme over and over, I wish he'd ditch the "my beautiful daughter is out of control" and do more "my grandma is being catfished by a Nigerian prince!"

YES!!

4 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

I agree.  I'd like to see some follow up stories.  He's always sending people off to these places but we never hear any more about them.  Was anyone actually helped?

As far as addicts go, probably not many.  It is impossible to gather statistics on rehab success but it is a widely held belief that the percentage is quite low.

Any therapy based help, relies on the individual.  Therapists don't cure anyone, they light the way and you have to do the work.  So there are probably not the kind of successes that would make a good show.   I think some may improve their situations but not bowl us over on a TV episode.  

As for mental illness, the patient often gets better but again not a huge success for a follow up.  

 

I am bored with his show and watch maybe 30% of the episodes. 

Anyone else have the feeling that things are not going all that well in his private life?   He has stopped giving examples of his good marriage and he lacks enthusiam.  He is older now (67) so he is slower on the uptake and talking off the cuff.  I live with post its everywhere to remind myself of everything outside of breathing so I don't fault him for that.  

I suspect he tired of doing the show but likes the money and celebrity.  He is sharp on talk shows and very engaging thus my thought of feeling done with this gig. 

Edited December 2, 2017 by wings707

[Oldcrone]

And as always...the show HAS to end with a plug for Robin's "skincare" line. Puh-leeeze. She's had so much plastic surgery and fillers she could leave her body to Tupperware for research. 

Edited December 2, 2017 by Oldcrone
Durn you autocorrect!!!

[woodscommaelle]

On 11/25/2017 at 8:19 AM, AZChristian said:

 

I must say this, though.  I had really bad belly pain one day and went to the emergency room.  They did an ultrasound and found gallstones

Off topic but this literally just happened to me this past Sunday. I’ve never felt pain like that. 

Dr Phil looks as if he believes absolutely none of what Gypsy is saying. Or maybe that’s just how I feel. 

I want to hear the story from Godejohn. 

[flyingdi]

12 hours ago, ClareWalks said:

If Dr Phil must cover the same theme over and over, I wish he'd ditch the "my beautiful daughter is out of control" and do more "my grandma is being catfished by a Nigerian prince!"

"My beautiful daughter is out of control and catfishing a Nigerian prince!"

Really anybody else think the mother of the beautiful, blond out of control looked just like the lady on earlier show.  The weight lifter who faked cancer like 2-3 times?

[Pondlass1]

22 hours ago, ClareWalks said:

Dr Phil must cover the same theme over and over,

Sometimes I wish they'd have a segment where the audience asks questions.  But I guess that would take the limelight away from him and his verbs in his sentences.

But the show is becoming a bit too formulaic despite the craziness of the guests.

[Guest]

On ‎12‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 11:02 AM, Pondlass1 said:

But the show is becoming a bit too formulaic despite the craziness of the guests.

Don't forget PondLass - this ain't his first rodeo.

[Wings]

Ahhh, another coo coo today!  I do like them.  I will watch up until I can smell the PNP center approaching. 

[Jax7917]

and lest not forget, I don't ask myself why, but why not?

I swear he thinks his sayings will become a trademark that is used on t-shirts , but they're just annoying.

The only one I like is "i'm not trying to throw you under the bus, although you'd fit nicely."

 

How did yesterday's guest not say thank you for being offered all that expensive help? He kept trying to get it out of her but she just kept saying okay.

[AZChristian]

29 minutes ago, Jaclyn88 said:

The only one I like is "i'm not trying to throw you under the bus, although you'd fit nicely."

I'm kind of partial to, "Did you fall out of the Stupid Tree and hit every branch on the way down?"

[tardistravler]

I am vegging the crap during my vacation days and watching Dr phil. This chick Sierra has to have at least something wrong with her. She seems to milking her cry sessions for all she is worth.

[ClareWalks]

I'm not a lawyer...I don't mean to brag, but.

I'm just a good ol' country boy.

Robin and I have been married for 44 years. (super long "hold for applause")

[charmed1]

How could you guys forget, "I don't curr how flat ya make it, a pancake's got two sides."

Honorable mention goes to,"How's that working for ya? and "This is not a [insert random asshole juvenile's name] problem, this is a family problem."

Edited December 5, 2017 by charmed1