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Morrigan2575
Morrigan2575

I like it. Although I didn't expect so much green.     

PAForrest
PAForrest

I love it and I think the green is appropriate considering SB was a legit soldier. As someone who served in the army, green is the color. Though this looks much snazzier than the fatigues I had to wea

Morrigan2575
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thank you kripkeeper! 😍  

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roamyn

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On 5/30/2022 at 6:13 PM, DeeDee79 said:

As a SPN fangirl I wonder if Jim Beaver who is Bob Singer on The Boys and Bobby Singer on SPN (really Kripke??) will have any interaction with Soldier Boy (Dean Winchester on SPN) at all. It will be a nice touch for SPN fans if they do. 🙂

Maybe SB's alter ego/hidden identity is named Winchester.  Or Dean Smith.  LOL

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tessathereaper

tessathereaper

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On 5/30/2022 at 9:59 AM, Bergamot said:

Thank you DeeDee! That is a great interview, one of my favorites of the ones I've seen! And a nice job by the person doing the interview.

When they are talking about what they call "Temp - V", and how you never know what powers you will get from taking it,  because it is just random, Jensen laughingly says something about how "obviously Hughie would never have chosen what he gets!" Did we know that Hughie gets temporary Supe powers too? I wonder what power he gets!

I loved the part about Kripke's glee at the consternation of his actors at what they are asked to do. "That's the thing about Kripke -- never expose your weakness!" LOL! That is like, the quintessential Kripke, isn't it?! 😄

Can't wait for the season to start!!

I feel like we basically did, they showed Kimiko just breaking his arm for no reason(and I think we see him getting blasted by Starlight too).  Everyone was guessing it had something to do with the testing the Temp V healing powers, but I wonder if that's ALL he got.  (Please, no "Son of Love Sausage" LOL)

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DeeDee79

DeeDee79

5 hours ago, tessathereaper said:

I feel like we basically did, they showed Kimiko just breaking his arm for no reason(and I think we see him getting blasted by Starlight too).  Everyone was guessing it had something to do with the testing the Temp V healing powers, but I wonder if that's ALL he got.  (Please, no "Son of Love Sausage" LOL)

After watching the trailer again I wonder if they're testing everyone's powers in the same scene. They showed MM hitting Butcher with a huge wood plank it looks like and it immediately snaps in half.

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AnimeMania

AnimeMania

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In strange The Boys podcast news, the podcast of The Deep's struggles will be released on June 9 on Audible called The Boys: Deeper and Deeper   By: Matt Berns     Narrated by: Chace Crawford (The Deep), Leigh Bush, Katy Breier (Cassandra, The Deep's Wife)

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Free with Audible membership.

From his exile from The Seven to his escape from an insidious cult, The Deep tells all in this companion to the hit Prime Video series The Boys.

He may be Lord of the Seven Seas, but for The Deep, life has been a tsunami of humiliations and setbacks. After braving the childhood trauma of being the weird kid with gills, Deep rose to the very top, basking in worldwide fame with Earth’s most powerful superheroes. But his public glory masked the disrespect of his teammates who crushed him, day after day. When he found himself patrolling the streets of Sandusky, Ohio, and then swallowed up into the Church of the Collective, Deep realized he had plummeted even deeper than the Mariana Trench.

Now, Deep—on the road promoting his memoir, Deeper—is sitting down for a no-holds-barred podcast interview. With his wife, Cassandra, by his side, Deep dives to the very depths of his soul and lays bare everything that has made him the fish-guy he is today.

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gonzosgirrl

gonzosgirrl

It must be so gratifying for Kripke, with decent shows that struggled for network success post-Supernatural, to finally have this juggernaut on his hands.

Variety article on renewal.

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Of course, giving “The Boys” a fourth season was always a no-brainer for Amazon, as the Eric Kripke-created show is at the center of the streamer’s first multi-series franchise, which now includes animated anthology spinoff “The Boys Presents: Diabolical”  and the currently in-production untitled spinoff, which is set at America’s only college exclusively for young-adult superheroes.

Per Amazon, “Over the first three days of its third season, the worldwide audience for ‘The Boys’ has grown by 17% from Season 2, and 234% from Season 1” during the same comparable post-launch period across all three seasons of the Sony Pictures Television-produced show.

While it’s important to keep in mind that Amazon’s Prime customer base has widened since “The Boys” Season 1 premiered in July 2019 (when all eight episodes were available to stream at once) and the Emmy-nominated second season rolled out in a weekly format between September and October 2020 (with the first three episodes dropping on premiere day), the viewership bump for the first three episodes of Season 3 that launched last Friday is still a sign of significant growth and demand in an ever-crowded streaming market.

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AnimeMania

AnimeMania

The Boys have created a Not Safe For Work fairly professional website called SupePorn.com. It is in Portugese and English, so you will have to switch it to the language you prefer, if you want to go directly to the English version, you can go here. 

The website claims to sell all of the dildos and sex toys displayed in S03.E04: Glorious Five Year Plan and so much more. The zoom in buttons don't seem to work.

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AnimeMania

AnimeMania

‘The Boys’ Season 4 Starts Filming Soon, Reveals Karl Urban [Exclusive]

“Yeah, we're starting I think August the 22nd, we're going to be starting season four. So I'm getting back, getting my Butcher back on, and I can't wait. It's a fun gang to play with, we work hard and play hard, and I can't wait to see where they take the characters from where we leave them at the end of this season.”

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Ohiopirate02

Ohiopirate02

47 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

There's a lot to unpack in this answer.

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He started off so strong, but oof on that second sentence.  Critiquing toxic masculinity takes more than gender-swapping.  Also, using words like selfless and sacrifice and burden when referring to Kimiko is not the hot take Kripke thinks it is.  It's reinforcing the status quo when it comes to how society views women.

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gonzosgirrl

gonzosgirrl

20 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

He started off so strong, but oof on that second sentence.  Critiquing toxic masculinity takes more than gender-swapping.  Also, using words like selfless and sacrifice and burden when referring to Kimiko is not the hot take Kripke thinks it is.  It's reinforcing the status quo when it comes to how society views women.

100% agree. It really is some probably-unintended insight into how Kripke views women.

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Smad

Smad

21 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

He started off so strong, but oof on that second sentence.  Critiquing toxic masculinity takes more than gender-swapping.  Also, using words like selfless and sacrifice and burden when referring to Kimiko is not the hot take Kripke thinks it is.  It's reinforcing the status quo when it comes to how society views women.

They way they have tried to tackle toxic masculinity this Season leaves a lot to be desired. What's weird about what he said about Hughie and Kimiko, none of it is gender specific. You can have a female character doing it for the reasons Hughie (according to Kripke) did it. No one would call it toxic masculinity then...would it be toxic femininity? Is that even a thing? Just like you can have a male character doing it for the reasons Kimiko did it.

He should fix his female characters more than anything. A lot of them are mothers falling victim to men (Stilwell, Becca, Monique, Victoria). The others are supes who also happen to be the only supes with a conscience (Annie, Kimiko, Maeve). We have had one male supe so far (Sonic) who seemed to be a good person and he was killed off quick. Sure we had some female supes who are crappy people (Stormfront, Crimson, the female twin), But in a show where the ratio of male characters to female characters is overwhelmingly in favor of the former, it's a little antiquated that only the latter seem to have any morality.

His need to keep Deep and A-Train around, despite both of them being useless and a waste of screen time because they provide nothing to the story's narrative, is something I would like to have a word with Kripke about. While he has been neglecting Maeve for the entirety of the show despite her being the perfect parallel storyline to Annie (similar to how HL and Butcher are).

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Aeryn13

Aeryn13

3 hours ago, Myrelle said:

Ugh.

Some things about Kripke haven't changed at all in over 10 years and his very overly simplistic views on some things is one of them.

It's hard to dislike him(for me), but when he says stuff like this I can't help but 🙄

I think his answer displays a current echo chamber thinking. Everything and everywhere is "toxic masculinity". Hughie is a guy, therefore it can`t be a nuanced story of how the eternal victim of bullies finally gets some powers himself and it`s just complicated. Nope, it`s a dude thing apparently. And the opposite end of the spectrum is "the girl thing" where she can do no wrong, even if she did the exact same thing. Even though nothing of their issues is gender-specific.

For so many years female characters were relegated to damsels and eye candy in fiction, with only a few "pioneer" characters breaking through. Then it slowly started getting better and we got a lot more equality writing. And now they are super-overcorrecting and we`re getting super-simplisitc inequality thinking again where somehow they believe women have to be perfect saints. Who is the target audience for that? Not me as a woman as I like my characters flawed and nunanced.

So I can look forward to balanced characters where gender matters little again in 20 or so more years? Splendid. 

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Mabinogia

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Honestly there are other, better, reasons to be okay with Kimiko and not with Hughie.

1. Kimiko was a Supe whose powers were taken away, so she was basically returning herself back to status quo. 

2. Kripke kind of touched on this one, Hughie seems to be addicted to the powers, he likes how they make him feel while Kimiko (I think like Butcher) sees the powers as a necessary evil for her to do what she needs to do to help win the war. Basically, Hughie is doing it for selfish reasons and Kimiko for unselfish reasons, but I don't think their sex has to be a factor in that. I think the real factor is their past. Kimiko has been a weapon, Hughie has not. She knows the dark side of it but he only sees the power he gains. 

3. Hughie is doing it for Starlight so she should have a say in his decision as it directly affects her. Kimiko is not doing it for Starlight so it's really not her place to tell Kimiko what she should or shouldn't do. Starlight's relationship with Hughie is a lot deeper than hers with Kimiko. 

4. Hughie and Kimiko are two different people. One is showing signs of being an addict while the other is not. If I have an alcoholic friend and a non-alcoholic friend I'm going to try to persuade the alcoholic to not drink while letting the non-alcoholic have a few. 

2 hours ago, Aeryn13 said:

For so many years female characters were relegated to damsels and eye candy in fiction, with only a few "pioneer" characters breaking through. Then it slowly started getting better and we got a lot more equality writing. And now they are super-overcorrecting and we`re getting super-simplisitc inequality thinking again where somehow they believe women have to be perfect saints. Who is the target audience for that? Not me as a woman as I like my characters flawed and nunanced.

This is too true. I get the feeling society is about two steps away from wiping the term nuance out of the collective lexicon. Everything is black and white in this Brave New World. 

The one thing I do think this show does right overall is show that heroes can be assholes and bad guys can also be assholes. lol While they give moments where I can sympathize with the likes of The Deep or Homelander, they never make me root for them. And while I can hate some of the things Butcher does, I can see where he is coming from and understand that he realizes he will probably have to sell his soul to defeat a soulless enemy. They haven't nailed the female characters, but they are doing great with the complexity of being a human in this fucked up society. 

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gonzosgirrl

gonzosgirrl

12 hours ago, Frost said:

The thing about Hughie's powers is that they are not violent.  He teleports and, apparently, can heal.   So if Temp Compound V reveals who a person is inside, Hughie is fairly passive.  His power can rescue people and help him sneak around, but that's about it.

Didn't he punch through the chest/gut of one of the Russian guards, or am I misremembering that?

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supposebly

supposebly

Yes, he did punch through the guard. This article has a picture with his bloody hand.

https://screenrant.com/boys-hughie-powers-abilities-teleportation-explained/

Although I'm not sure the physics actually work. Can you teleport/run into someone and punch through while the person stays standing so you can just make a hole? Is he actually teleporting or just running really fast?

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gonzosgirrl

gonzosgirrl

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1 hour ago, Frost said:

The only violent thing I remember is punching A-Train, but that didn't seem "super" powered to me.   

Didn't A-Train seemed shocked by the punch though? Like... how'd you do that, puny human? And he was also assisting Butcher and Soldier Boy in holding down Homelander, so it seems there must be some element of strength involved.

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Morrigan2575

Morrigan2575

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3 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Didn't he punch through the chest/gut of one of the Russian guards, or am I misremembering that?

Yeah but, he might not have known his strength since it was the first time he used the Temp V. He didn't even know what powers he had.  When he punched A Train later he hit him hard enough for ATrain to realize he was stronger than a normal human. However I have no idea if Hughie pulled his punch knowing what he did in Russia or if it was just a difference of punching another Supe.

My problem with Kripke's comment is that it's a dumb over simplified reason and, I feel pandering a bit. Hughie's story should be more than Toxic masculinity.  It should be about the little picked on guy getting a taste of being powerful and, what it does to a person.

They could have also dealt with Hougie's disillusionment,  he was trying so hard to play by the rules, to take out bad supes legally only to find out it was all a lie, they were just working for Vought.

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Morrigan2575

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5 minutes ago, ahrtee said:

All I can think of with that is "Kneel before Todd!"  (Sorry...my SPN is showing.)😀

Yes, exactly.  The Wishing Well episode. That's Hughie he's the scared, meek little guy that's pushed around by everyone but, has a good heart/moral compass and now he's got power and can get back at his bullies. That would have been an interesting story. 

Breaking it down to Hughie being selfish because he wants to protect Annie when she doesn't want it but, Kimiko is great because she wants her powers back to protect Frenchie even though he didn't want her to do it either. There's just a major disconnect for me in that answer. 

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gonzosgirrl

gonzosgirrl

40 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Yeah but, he might not have known his strength since it was the first time he used the Temp V. He didn't even know what powers he had.  When he punched A Train later he hit him hard enough for ATrain to realize he was stronger than a normal human.

I agree - I was responding to the idea that he only had the passive power of teleportation due his passive nature.

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Smad

Smad

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59 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

My problem with Kripke's comment is that it's a dumb over simplified reason and, I feel pandering a bit. Hughie's story should be more than Toxic masculinity.  It should be about the little picked on guy getting a taste of being powerful and, what it does to a person.

Exactly. Exploring toxic masculinity should should be done through the characters where it actually applies. For example the likes of SB, HL and Butcher. Hughie's story should be about the person having run from confrontation his whole life (verbal and physical) and who everyone saw as meek and bullied and what happens when they suddenly come into power. And what that power can do to a person like that, the good and the bad.

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Mabinogia

Mabinogia

4 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Sometimes it's better if showrunners/writers keep their intentions to themselves and let us interpret what ends up on the screen. There is a lot of insight in these posts about Krip's comments. Thank you!

I agree. This discussion is way more enlightening to me about Hughie's motives than Kripke's comment which sounded like something out of the PR handbook of using buzzwords that are trending.

It is far more interesting if Hughie is growing addicted to his Supe powers because for the first time in his life he doesn't feel helpless, he feels like he finally can really contribute to the cause and be part of the action, no longer marginalized or having to be looked after not just by starlight but by Butcher, everyone. 

It shouldn't be about protecting his girlfriend but about being able to finally fight beside her, with her, to finally feel like he can back her up and not be someone who has to be protected. For someone who has always been "weak" that would be intoxicating. Add to that the fact that playing fair isn't working, and there is absolutely zero reason for his motivation to be to protect his girlfriend. 

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roamyn

roamyn

8 hours ago, Mabinogia said:

It shouldn't be about protecting his girlfriend but about being able to finally fight beside her, with her, to finally feel like he can back her up and not be someone who has to be protected. For someone who has always been "weak" that would be intoxicating.

And this is one of the problems  I have with Hughie this season.

 He’s scoffs ( rightfully so ) at Soldier Boy’s antiquated and horrifying  views of manhood, then proceeds to place Starlight on a pedestal like she’s a 1900’s Gibson Girl.

The dichotomy between what he says and does is Hypocritical.

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Castiels Cat

Castiels Cat

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On 7/6/2022 at 5:49 PM, Mabinogia said:

I agree. This discussion is way more enlightening to me about Hughie's motives than Kripke's comment which sounded like something out of the PR handbook of using buzzwords that are trending.

It is far more interesting if Hughie is growing addicted to his Supe powers because for the first time in his life he doesn't feel helpless, he feels like he finally can really contribute to the cause and be part of the action, no longer marginalized or having to be looked after not just by starlight but by Butcher, everyone. 

It shouldn't be about protecting his girlfriend but about being able to finally fight beside her, with her, to finally feel like he can back her up and not be someone who has to be protected. For someone who has always been "weak" that would be intoxicating. Add to that the fact that playing fair isn't working, and there is absolutely zero reason for his motivation to be to protect his girlfriend. 

He might want to protect her because he couldn't protect the one A-Train killed. It's psychological and related to trauma as much if not more than the toxic masculinity theme that's running through the season.

His entire raison d'etre for joining the Boys was righting that wrong 

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Affogato

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8 hours ago, Castiels Cat said:

He might want to protect her because he couldn't protect the one A-Train killed. It's psychological and related to trauma as much if not more than the toxic masculinity thene that's running through the season.

His entire raison d'etre for joining the Boys was righting that wrong 

This is an excellent point. 

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Mabinogia

Mabinogia

9 hours ago, Castiels Cat said:

He might want to protect her because he couldn't protect the one A-Train killed. It's psychological and related to trauma as much if not more than the toxic masculinity thene that's running through the season.

That makes so much sense. I can get not ever wanting to feel that helpless again. I would probably take the V in his shoes. 

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