House Hunters - General Discussion

[cameron]

2 hours ago, ECM1231 said:

I continue to be amazed at how affordable Chicago properties are. 

Depends on the area.  Non desirable areas are lower in price while the desirable areas command a high price.

[cameron]

On 1/5/2025 at 8:23 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I was in Manchester in November, it was a charming town, (we went to tour two Frank lloyd Wright houses), I was amazed that there is a Southern New Hampshire University Arena, I thought it was a diploma mill!

My husband is from Manchester and I thought that it leaves a lot to be desired.  Never wanted to live there.

[Baltimore Betty]

44 minutes ago, cameron said:

My husband is from Manchester and I thought that it leaves a lot to be desired.  Never wanted to live there.

We were only there a couple of days, not long enough to see all the warts.

[buttersister]

HH Remote Retreats--LOL, repackaged crazy town.  Shades of Homestead Rescue 😂

Couple with two kids and shit for brains and a $900k budget move from one area of CO to another, more remote spot with 150" of snow in the winter. They're outdoors folks, but he travels a lot. 
She has concerns about keeping the kids safe out there--he, who wants acres--asked his kids if they wanted to share a bedroom (they're preteen girl and boy). WTF? House 1 has death trap driveway, septic and well. 

The second place has a stuffed mountain goat mounted on a two-story stone fireplace and I'm actively disliking these weirdos. Let's talk more about big fires in the area, says realtor.

Moving on to house 3, closer to town (and schools, neighbors, food, etc.). Keep thinking Mr. Isolation isn't home a lot.

Realtor is an idiot. Says wood-burning fireplace is primary heat source--it's a huge house with baseboard heating, dude. What are you talking about?

Holy crap, they bought #1 for $815k and his dead mother would be glad. Hope they don't find  the bones of the wife and kids buried in the snow. Wife liked price, says check back after a winter out there. Nope.

[Kemper]

This weekend I saw what I think was a rerun. The couple had teenagers and were looking for a house on The Outer Banks. If I had seen the entire episode I would have put this under Memorable House Hunters. The wife was very entitled; husband about the same. The teens were okay - what you would expect considering the parents. The wife's fashion choices. She did not dress for her size. What appeared to be a Lily Pulitzer dress was maybe two sizes too small. Like The Grinch's heart. Lapping from my saucer of cream.

All of the houses were expensive - in the millions.  One had a beautiful, newly renovated kitchen; wife declared it would be a "gut job" because of the ... I think I have this correctly ...  placement of the appliances? One had a nice pool with a high fence and backed up to the ocean. Dad didn't like the fact that the patio areas around it would not be adequate for hosting.  But the worst part? I got a phone call and missed which house they picked! If anyone saw it, please let me know.

Has anyone else noticed that so many of the houses shown these days all look kind of the same on the inside? Like no one lives in them; all professionally staged. Very nice but sterile.

Edited February 24 by Kemper

[chessiegal]

Napierville IL: That woman was a pill. Why would you want hardwood floors in the kitchen? Not only did she say it, she did it. She must not cook. Tile in the kitchen is so much easier to clean and care for.

[cameron]

Actually have had real wood floors in every home that we have owned since 1990 and I cook a lot.  Matter of personal preference in what people choose for kitchen flooring.  Keeping a neat and clean kitchen is paramount in keeping your wooden floors looking their best.

[chessiegal]

I have tile in my kitchen and would not want it any other way. I cook. Water and food spills happen. I don't have to worry about damaging the floors. 

[Crashcourse]

I was pleasantly surprised that the Napierville woman didn't want to rip out the kitchen cabinets and replace them with white ones.

[chessiegal]

41 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

I was pleasantly surprised that the Napierville woman didn't want to rip out the kitchen cabinets and replace them with white ones.

Especially since she was so fond of saying "gut job".

[pdlinda]

18 hours ago, chessiegal said:

That woman was a pill.

Seemed like there was MUCH MORE to her story than was aired.  I was curious about the relationship she severed and how much $$$ she was able to walk away with after the split.  Also, the daughter.  They seemed relatively close in age.  The daughter seemed very "passive" and "dependent" on mom (which was perfectly fine with mom).  

[StatisticalOutlier]

On 1/5/2025 at 6:23 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I was in Manchester in November, it was a charming town, (we went to tour two Frank lloyd Wright houses), I was amazed that there is a Southern New Hampshire University Arena, I thought it was a diploma mill!

Your comment made me curious, and I found out that it's named that because SNHU bought the naming rights.  It was called the Verizon Wireless Arena before that.

With arenas owned by universities, I can't think of any that use the name of the university.  They're usually named after former coaches, or sometimes donors. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

On 1/17/2025 at 12:21 PM, chediavolo said:

I often wondered about all these people who say they don’t cook and they eat out at every meal.. like when are they going to hear that they have stenosis or diabetes or heart disease or cancer? How can anyone live like that?  Jesus I watch what I eat and I’ve got issues. 

Well, see, there ya go.  I almost never cook and eat out pretty much every meal (although I eat only once a day), and I don't have any health issues, so I'd say I live like that pretty well.  Some people are just lucky.  And others might be, too, but they never find out because they don't want to chance it, I guess?  I'm glad I took the risk because I actively enjoy everything I eat.  If I don't love it, I'm not gonna bother eating it.

I just don't enjoy cooking enough to do it on any sort of regular basis.  And I do enjoy Popeye's spicy fried chicken.  😀

 

[Bastet]

On 2/27/2025 at 6:07 AM, chessiegal said:

I have tile in my kitchen and would not want it any other way. I cook.

I cook every day.  I have linoleum in the kitchen (with tile in the bathroom and hardwood everywhere else) and will replace it with tile when I renovate my kitchen.  But I know a few home cooks with hardwood floors in the kitchen because they wanted the same flooring throughout the entire house.  So it doesn't work to assume she doesn't cook just based on that.

Edited March 2 by Bastet

[cameron]

14 hours ago, Bastet said:

I cook every day.  I have linoleum in the kitchen (with tile in the bathroom and hardwood everywhere else) and will replace it with tile when I renovate my kitchen.  But I know a few home cooks with hardwood floors in the kitchen because they wanted the same flooring throughout the entire house.  So it doesn't work to assume she doesn't cook just based on that.

I have had linoleum, vinyl tile, ceramic tile, brick and wood floors over the course of all the 16 homes we have lived in and I really prefer the wood floors.  I enjoy cooking and don't eat  out that much except on special occasions and vacations.  Came into our marriage not knowing how to cook at all and over the years have really gotten into it.  I am a stickler on keeping my kitchen floors really clean.   That's the secret to keeping your wood looking their best, regardless of what room they are in.  Also have had them in our master bathroom and they held up great.

[StatisticalOutlier]

On 2/13/2025 at 8:00 AM, laredhead said:

Also, how much $$ does a tall building window washer and a content creator (whatever that is) make? 

A tall window building window washer probably makes pretty good money...but it's not like they're in Manhattan, so I wonder how much demand there is.  Odd that he dislikes stairs--I guess he prefers to ascend completely vertically instead of at an angle.

The wife said she's a "women's empowerment coach," and then said she empowers women "financially."  Which is somehow more annoying to me than "content creator," which is apparently part of being a women's empowerment coach.

I have a suggestion:  if everybody quits throwing money at these content creators, maybe they'll go away?

On 2/17/2025 at 8:12 PM, Mollywolly555 said:

Lots of animals... we saw deer near the road, and I hear they get visits from mountain lions.. it's that remote.

Heh.  If you want to see deer, just go to my sister's house inside the beltway in Washington, DC.  They're eating all her plants and driving her nuts.

For mountain lions, Los Angeles is where you want to be.  😀

I watch these episodes via Spectrum on demand, and I've been watching ones with dates in the last couple of weeks but nobody's discussing them, so I don't know what I'm watching.  Did anybody else see the one with the carpenter in Detroit?  I loved it when she saw a house that was on the market for $20,000, and when she was inside she remarked at how it looked like it was going to take a lot more work than she thought.  Because nothing says not-a-lot-of-work like a $20,000 house.

I immediately knew it was the one she picked because it just so happened that it had been sitting empty for ten years but had recently had new plumbing and wiring put in "to prep it for sale."  She said she was going to live in one room at a time while she fixes the house, and it'll probably take at least a year. 

I liked her, and would love an update at some point, even mid-progress.

And wouldn't you know, the electrical and plumbing would run about $18,000, and she paid $18,000.  So maybe those houses are usually close to free?

When I was in college in the 1970s, I took an urban planning class and wrote a paper about Baltimore's urban homesteading program, where the city sold row houses for $1, and the buyer would get the deed if they fixed it up and lived in it for a certain amount of time. 

My main takeaway whenever I read about urban decay and how to fix it is I'm really glad I'm not in charge of figuring out how to do it. 

[chessiegal]

23 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

And wouldn't you know, the electrical and plumbing would run about $18,000, and she paid $18,000.  So maybe those houses are usually close to free?

Have you watched Bargain Block? Two guys buy run down properties in Detroit and rehab them. They buy houses for 5 figures.

[Angeltoes]

22 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Heh.  If you want to see deer, just go to my sister's house inside the beltway in Washington, DC.  They're eating all her plants and driving her nuts.

She might want to try this:

https://www.bangordailynews.com/2022/07/21/homestead/peeing-on-your-garden-joam40zk0w/#:~:text=Even if the urine does,your garden%2C” he said.

[Empress1]

Just watched a recent divorcée in Norman, OK. $150K cash budget. Young, no kids. She’d been living with her mother post-divorce. She was looking at very small places (the largest one she saw was a townhouse that was 1400 square feet and the others were 900 and 600). All the places she saw were kind of ugly, in my opinion. She went with the 900-square foot 2/1, which was cute once she fixed it up, although the kitchen was tiny (it had like three cabinets).

[CalicoKitty]

I live in what is considered a rural town, but we live in regular neighborhoods and subdivisions with next door neighbors.  Deer, foxes, coyotes, and predatory birds are common sites.  We had a large mountain lion outside our neighborhood gates a few months ago.  Bears are not uncommon.  I saw a bear trap outside a house on a residential street not too long ago.  I never heard if they caught it and relocated it or not.  You always have to be on alert for deer.  My point is, you do not have to live out in the woods or on acreage to encounter wild animals.  They come right into town! 

[CalicoKitty]

4 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I live in what is considered a rural town, but we live in regular neighborhoods and subdivisions with next door neighbors.  Deer, foxes, coyotes, and predatory birds are common sites.  We had a large mountain lion outside our neighborhood gates a few months ago.  Bears are not uncommon.  I saw a bear trap outside a house on a residential street not too long ago.  I never heard if they caught it and relocated it or not.  You always have to be on alert for deer.  My point is, you do not have to live out in the woods or on acreage to encounter wild animals.  They come right into town! 

By bear trap I don't mean those claw-type things you see on TV.  The bear trap looks more like a metal house that is built to withstand a bear's strength.  They pull it behind a truck, and then park and leave the back door open.  It has small windows and bedding material on the floor.  They hang something that looks and smells like food from the ceiling and hope that the bear goes inside.  Then they shut the door and transport the bear out to the forest and away from people and pets.  The bear doesn't get hurt, he just gets to go on a trip.

[snarts]

Cincinnati, OH area: 25 year old first time buyer, approved for $350k, smartly wants to spend <$275k. Prefers older homes with some charm, she likes to bake, crochet, etc. No vocal fry. Even her friend wasn't annoying.

All three choices in Northern KY, two in Covington & one in Bellevue. She chose the smaller, two bed in walkable Bellevue paying above asking at $255k. Seemed like the right fit for her, the backyard was gorgeous.

[kirklandia]

Memphis house hunters, touring their third house - in an incredible coincidence, they see their kids' names written on a door jamb.

"They've got a Madison and a Tanner as well!"

Of course they bought it (but I'm not buying it).

[Grizzly]

I just happened to switch to HGTV. I don't know where we are or what the back story is. Two guys are looking at a house built in the 1800s for 750k. One guy is bitching that there's no AC or dishwasher! Dude, it's a 19th century house with original floors and an updated bathroom. You know you're going to buy it.

[Johannah]

15 hours ago, Grizzly said:

I just happened to switch to HGTV. I don't know where we are or what the back story is. Two guys are looking at a house built in the 1800s for 750k. One guy is bitching that there's no AC or dishwasher! Dude, it's a 19th century house with original floors and an updated bathroom. You know you're going to buy it.

Drives me crazy when they say they w

ant historic and then complain that the kitchen and baths need to be gutted and modernized.  They want old, but why no ensuite and small closets?  Do they ever research the style of house they want or just parrot what they think sounds cool?

[badgerwoman]

On 3/14/2025 at 9:33 PM, Grizzly said:

I just happened to switch to HGTV. I don't know where we are or what the back story is. Two guys are looking at a house built in the 1800s for 750k. One guy is bitching that there's no AC or dishwasher! Dude, it's a 19th century house with original floors and an updated bathroom. You know you're going to buy it.

I don't watch house hunters anymore,  but this was in my city so I had to watch it and for a change, I knew all the locations!  The historic house they bought is across from a church I used to attend and a block away from two extremely busy streets.  the backyard is used for off street parking.  

 

I used to  live a couple of miles from the church they looked at (20 years ago!) and that neighborhood is great.  

But if I could afford to live in Metropolitan Place (where the condo was), I would.  It isn't "generic".  I toured the place when it opened 22 years ago, and the finishes are all high end.  the condo fee includes cable/water/sewage and a fitness center.  And they have underground parking - which has its own separate fee.  It is also in walking distance of a small but nice grocery store, and has restaurants in the first floor of the building.

[woofy]

Couldn't believe that the husband in the family of eight -- six kids under the age of 7 -- thought his family could live comfortably in the 1700 square foot modern house.  They wound up with a much larger, older one with space for home schooling.  How does she think she'll have time to do that?????  My guess is they'll probably outgrow it if they keep having more kids -- the wife looked like she was pregnant again.

[ECM1231]

1 hour ago, woofy said:

Couldn't believe that the husband in the family of eight -- six kids under the age of 7 -- thought his family could live comfortably in the 1700 square foot modern house.  They wound up with a much larger, older one with space for home schooling.  How does she think she'll have time to do that?????  My guess is they'll probably outgrow it if they keep having more kids -- the wife looked like she was pregnant again.

I was wondering the same thing. Holy Moly. And none of the 6 children were multiples, either. The husband's job was something to do with digital content or something like that. What IS that exactly and does it pay that well that he can support such a large family? 

[snarts]

Colorado: the family of eight husband gave me the creeps. I sure hope digital content creator doesn't mean exploiting those kids on social media. 

[buttersister]

Rerun of Christina and James buying their first home in Baltimore (2022).  He works for the federal government, she’s a federal contract employee. Nice young couple, 😢

[chessiegal]

14 hours ago, buttersister said:

Rerun of Christina and James buying their first home in Baltimore (2022).  He works for the federal government, she’s a federal contract employee. Nice young couple, 😢

Hoping they still have their jobs. 🙏

[CrazyInAlabama]

I guess the Seattle episode last night was a rerun.   They showed two people who were hunting in West Seattle, wanted a yard for the dog, and walkable.   Only one had a yard, was walkable.  No surprise which one they picked.    The show needs to pick better decoys than the two they showed on this episode. 

[laredhead]

Episode last night or night before about a "young, professional couple" looking for the usual modern vs. Craftsman house. They were buying a giant schnauzer, and wanted a yard big enough for the dog.  They were supposedly in their 20's, but his statement that they had worked long and hard to afford the house they deserved kind of got to me.  I think he was 27, and they were buying a $600,000+ house.  When you in your 40's, then you can legitimately say you have worked a long time.  Geeeeeze.  I barely remember the house they bought.  I actually might have liked them more, if they had gone to a shelter and rescued a dog instead of buying one.    

[Notabug]

3 hours ago, laredhead said:

Episode last night or night before about a "young, professional couple" looking for the usual modern vs. Craftsman house. They were buying a giant schnauzer, and wanted a yard big enough for the dog.  They were supposedly in their 20's, but his statement that they had worked long and hard to afford the house they deserved kind of got to me.  I think he was 27, and they were buying a $600,000+ house.  When you in your 40's, then you can legitimately say you have worked a long time.  Geeeeeze.  I barely remember the house they bought.  I actually might have liked them more, if they had gone to a shelter and rescued a dog instead of buying one.    

They were both annoying. They said they were bougie and weren't joking.  Her utter disgust at the idea of having to wait to finish out a basement and his insistence that cabinets and fixtures in a brand new home would have to be trashed so he could get exactly what he wanted was so over the top for a pair looking to buy their first home.  Heck, she complained that a newly remodeled shower wasn't big enough despite the fact that it was 2-3 times the size of the typical stall shower. That they were buying a designer dog from a breeder was not surprising, these two were all about status and showing off.  Remember the olden days when most of us bought our first homes knowing that the place wasn't perfect?  When we expected, down the road, that we'd paint or remodel or even add on to the house rather than expecting nothing less than perfection from the first day?

She also needs someone to show her how to apply false lashes as she seemingly was having difficulty keeping her eyes open due to the size of them.  Very distracting in her talking heads.  At the end, they were talking about putting up a fence for the dog-to-be and the discussion centered around how the fence needed to be black to fit with their style and aesthetic.  Glad they're not my neighbors.

[ECM1231]

Nothing more to add about the annoying Kansas City couple as I agree with everything @laredhead and @Notabug said. 

[Seelouis]

I knew what we were in for in this episode from the first moment when she said she was attracted to him because of his work ethic and that they could be a “power couple.”  

[rhofmovalley]

Am I supposed to be so insecure I need to care what other people think about my home? Because other than wanting my home to be neat and clean (for myself but also to have a pleasant atmosphere for guests), I literally don't care if anyone thinks I've "made it" based on my fence or the type of pet I have.

And yes, adopt, don't shop. 

[laredhead]

I am catching up on many episodes that were recorded, but this was a more recent one I think.  I looked for comments on it, but found none, so forgive me if I rehash what has already been discussed.  This episode was about 2 sisters in Virginia who were moving their elderly mother from California to Virginia so she could be near family.  One sister was a real estate agent, and seemed to be the one pushing this move, and in charge of the purchase.  They looked at a 2 story which I would have dismissed immediately for an elderly person, but the real estate sister had the "wonderful" idea that the grand kids now in college could live there on the 2nd floor with granny after they graduate, and help her out with things, or something like that.  The other sister wasn't too keen on that idea.  There was a house on a lake that needed some work, but the property was lovely.  Then there was a 1,400 sq foot house that had been updated, but the rooms were small.  The real estate sister did say that she was having trouble separating her sales/investment mind from her caring for family mind, and yep, seems her sales mind was winning.  In the reveal, they finally showed the mother.  She looked very elderly, and was using a walker to get around.  Having just gone through two relocations of elderly family members, one with mobility issues, there is no way I would have ever set foot in the 2-story house.  I guess the show needed 3 distinct properties, but it would have been nice to see one that was designed for someone with mobility issues.  I did like the way they showed the lake house after it had been remodeled and updated.  At least the mother will have a large bedroom with a walk in shower.        

[chessiegal]

2 minutes ago, laredhead said:

I am catching up on many episodes that were recorded, but this was a more recent one I think.  I looked for comments on it, but found none, so forgive me if I rehash what has already been discussed.  This episode was about 2 sisters in Virginia who were moving their elderly mother from California to Virginia so she could be near family.  One sister was a real estate agent, and seemed to be the one pushing this move, and in charge of the purchase.  They looked at a 2 story which I would have dismissed immediately for an elderly person, but the real estate sister had the "wonderful" idea that the grand kids now in college could live there on the 2nd floor with granny after they graduate, and help her out with things, or something like that.  The other sister wasn't too keen on that idea.  There was a house on a lake that needed some work, but the property was lovely.  Then there was a 1,400 sq foot house that had been updated, but the rooms were small.  The real estate sister did say that she was having trouble separating her sales/investment mind from her caring for family mind, and yep, seems her sales mind was winning.  In the reveal, they finally showed the mother.  She looked very elderly, and was using a walker to get around.  Having just gone through two relocations of elderly family members, one with mobility issues, there is no way I would have ever set foot in the 2-story house.  I guess the show needed 3 distinct properties, but it would have been nice to see one that was designed for someone with mobility issues.  I did like the way they showed the lake house after it had been remodeled and updated.  At least the mother will have a large bedroom with a walk in shower.        

I've been thinking about this episode. I don't think for one minute that mom is living in the "chosen" house, but I could be wrong. Nice that the real estate agent daughter was footing the bill for a $700K house that cost over $200K to renovate. If you look at the productions company's web site where you can apply to be on the show (Pie Town) they have a place for real estate agents to apply. I think that whole show was the agent's advertisement for her business. I think she bought the house as an investment, and I'm guessing the chosen remodeled house was back on the market as a flip. Mom with a walker looked like she was ready for assisted living, not living alone. I've deleted the episode so not sure I can find the agent's web site. I suppose mom could be living in the house until she really does need to be not living alone.

[snarts]

7 hours ago, chessiegal said:

I've been thinking about this episode. I don't think for one minute that mom is living in the "chosen" house, but I could be wrong.

100% agree. Why would an 80 year old woman even want to live in a 2000+ sq ft house?  

My guess is that she's really living in some type of senior housing near her daughters. She cashed out on her California house & in order to avoid paying capital gains, they invested the money in the lake house that her real estate daughter could flip, using the show to grow her business.

[BAForever]

Totally agree about the Virginia realtor, sister and CA mom. We don't know the whole backstory.  Mom looked pretty frail, I lol'ed at the 2 story. Just what 20- somethings want to do- care for a grandparent.

I did love the scenery at the lake house, but all 3 houses were way too big for grandma's needs.

[swissair100]

12 hours ago, chessiegal said:

I don't think for one minute that mom is living in the "chosen" house, but I could be wrong

Well according to the realtor herself, the lake house is an investment property to be rented out except when their mom comes to visit for a month or so.  The producers apparently “tweaked it” so that it became a show about their mom moving to VA FT!!! 

(… quick search on realtor sister & she gave a long interview last year about growing up as a Mormon & her current views about it - interesting)

Edited Thursday at 02:51 AM by swissair100

[laredhead]

16 minutes ago, swissair100 said:

Well according to the realtor herself, the lake house is an investment property to be rented out except when their mom comes to visit for a month or so.  The producers apparently “tweaked it” so that it became a show about their mom moving to VA FT!!! 

Thank you for doing a deep dive into that story.  Why not just say that and be done with it?  On, yeah, gotta create "drama".  The real estate sister kept talking about wanting a house big enough for family get togethers which made that 1,400 sf house totally out of the question.  I guess the lake house will be the party house during mom's visits.  I cant remember the name of the realtor, but would love to read the article.   

[chessiegal]

10 hours ago, laredhead said:

I cant remember the name of the realtor

The real estate sister is Shannon, her sister is Karen. The show didn't give any last names.

[swissair100]

11 hours ago, laredhead said:

I cant remember the name of the realtor, but would love to read the article.

Her name is Shannon Lamb, RE agent in northern VA. 

[pdlinda]

On 3/26/2025 at 7:12 AM, chessiegal said:

Mom with a walker looked like she was ready for assisted living, not living alone.

I completely agree with you! 

 

The mother looked very frail and it would be EXTREMELY RISKY (in my opinion) for mom to spend even ONE MINUTE in that house alone because "one false move" and she would be on the floor after a fall.  That would be TERRIBLE. 

 

Yes, she would be fine living there with appropriate care, but, NO, not alone!

[Bastet]

On 3/23/2025 at 12:12 PM, Notabug said:

That they were buying a designer dog from a breeder

I hardly ever watch this show any more, but I happened upon that episode and watched for the first time in months if not years, and it's some fuckwits buying rather than adopting a pet.  Back to channel surfing.

[CrazyInAlabama]

On 3/27/2025 at 4:05 PM, pdlinda said:

I completely agree with you! 

 

The mother looked very frail and it would be EXTREMELY RISKY (in my opinion) for mom to spend even ONE MINUTE in that house alone because "one false move" and she would be on the floor after a fall.  That would be TERRIBLE. 

 

Yes, she would be fine living there with appropriate care, but, NO, not alone!

I didn't like the decoy houses for the story line that the mother would be staying there.  The farmhouse had steps to the front porch, and stairs to the guest rooms.   I suspect if anyone lives there that it will be the college age kids, or after when they start working full time, or it will be a flip or short term rental.   

[kirklandia]

That Virginia realtor daughter supposedly choosing a house for her mother got on my last nerve.

I watched the episode waiting to actually meet the mother - wondering if she had any say in the matter.  I couldn't imagine that she could be as insufferable as her daughter.  
The daughter only seemed interested in what she herself wanted and what would be great for the grandkids. Sometimes she said "my" money sometimes she said "her" budget. If her mother was living in a larger house in LA, I imagine she had the money for this purchase.

Mon seemed rather meek and willing to go along. Watching the two daughters try and help her over the threshold into her new home was painful.