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2 hours ago, snarkish said:

Alena needs to take private lessons. I already realize that when my 13 year old daughter is ready to practice driving that most likely I will NOT be a good person to keep her at ease behind the wheel, so I plan on letting her stepdad handle that or hire a professional! No need to transfer my nerves!

Driver's Ed in my house was handled by Dad, except for parallel parking, my Mom is a master.  It might have been good for his anxiety, but since Dad would take me to a parking lot to practice, and then make crash sounds whenever I went over a line, it wasn't so great for mine.  🙂

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58 minutes ago, Kayz Opinion said:

Everything was done properly...legal/formal wedding; all paperwork signed.  If we're to believe her, Mary simply refused to file it with the appropriate county(?) office.  In my county the couple doesn't file the paperwork; the officiant does: priest, minister, Justice of the Peace.

Yep, they’re married. The filed Marriage Cert is simply proof.  If the Cert isn’t filed or is lost one of the spouses can file an affidavit(s) attesting that the wedding occurred. 

Which I’m sure Botox Betty will do as soon as they split and she starts chasing alimony 

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3 hours ago, jackjill89 said:

Sunhe is a horrid person. I can't stand her. Angelica proved to be a lot more like her mother than I thought. She's no victim. She plays right into this. Brett and Jason should run, and run fast. 

Can you imagine Brett having Sun-he around his kids, they would need a therapist on speed dial.  FU, Big Purple Haired Girl, how dare you tell Brett that his kids are old enough to be without their father. What an idiot.

Jason certainly can find another giant purple haired girl to date, one who has boundaries with her mother, this relationship seems like divorce number two waiting to happen.

The woman who is trying to teach her daughter to drive, the daughter cried and would not listen to her mother's instructions and we saw the daughter try to break an egg and it was not going well and when her mother tried to teach her the right way the girl cried and left the kitchen. I put the blame on the mother for not teaching her daughter be more independent, we are supposed to teach our children to be prepared to face the world, that mother failed big time, I feel sorry for that daughter when her mother is gone, does she even have friends?

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Sunhe is just evil and mentally ill unless it is all just and exaggerated act.  Angelica is a big loser.   Last night Dawn was the most annoying for me, I would have told her to please be quiet if I were the consultant.  Cher needs to reel Dawn in and send her packing before her marriage is ruined. I missed the last few mins so I am hoping she got rid of her.  I also find Alena an Marcia chasing each other around the house is just bizarre. I don't think Mary is a stable person and that is not helping Brittani any, who should really stay out of her mother's relationship with Frank.

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5 hours ago, snarkish said:

Meddling Dawn takes hovering Mama to an unheard of level. I am surprised she's not trying to relactate so she can help breastfeed. That poor consultant!

I was so angry at Sunhe and Angelica last night (I'm really embarrassingly invested in this show) that I totally forgot to comment about the lactation consultant. That woman seemed like the nicest, most patient woman in all of New York. She was so kind and understanding with Cher and even tolerated Dawn. The producers were clearly trying to get her to talk shit about the matching outfits, but she just said it was a sweet way to bond. And honestly, while I think the matching outfits are silly, Dawn and Cher - and Kathy and Christina as well - are so tame compared to all the other mothers and daughters on this show that I can't hate.

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57 minutes ago, MerBearStare said:

I was so angry at Sunhe and Angelica last night (I'm really embarrassingly invested in this show) that I totally forgot to comment about the lactation consultant. That woman seemed like the nicest, most patient woman in all of New York. She was so kind and understanding with Cher and even tolerated Dawn. The producers were clearly trying to get her to talk shit about the matching outfits, but she just said it was a sweet way to bond. And honestly, while I think the matching outfits are silly, Dawn and Cher - and Kathy and Christina as well - are so tame compared to all the other mothers and daughters on this show that I can't hate.

There is annoyingly attached, boundary breaking (Dawn/Cher, Cristina/Kathy) and there is obsessive, emotionally manipulative, complete boundary busting attachment (all the others). It's very uncomfortable to watch the latter... but I still do. 

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Sunhe and Angelica have to be acting right?  I find it really hard to believe this is how they live.  Last season Angelica almost seemed like she wanted to make a life for herself away from her mother.  Now she acts like her mother's twin.

That woman that wants her daughter to drive needs to get her driving lessons with a professional.  Trying to learn to drive with my mother was very similar and usually ended with us yelling at each other.  

Dawn/Cher, I find them one of the more entertaining couples, although Dawn's voice is like nails on a chalkboard. 

Brittani, tan mom, and Frank (?) have such a stupid story. 

 

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2 hours ago, SevenCostanza said:

Sunhe and Angelica have to be acting right?  I find it really hard to believe this is how they live.  Last season Angelica almost seemed like she wanted to make a life for herself away from her mother.  Now she acts like her mother's twin.

I think you're right about the acting.  I think the producers must have told them they'd need to be "more shocking" if they expected to work another season.  Guess they're pulling it off.  I'd say they sold their souls, but that probably happened decades ago.

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6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

FU, Big Purple Haired Girl, how dare you tell Brett that his kids are old enough to be without their father.

Perhaps Big Purple-Haired Girl grew up without her father and she believes she turned out fine...better than fine.  I wish too often that people who actually know these specimens would join the forums and give us the real dirt...er-r-r background.

 

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19 hours ago, SevenCostanza said:

Sunhe and Angelica have to be acting right?  I find it really hard to believe this is how they live.  Last season Angelica almost seemed like she wanted to make a life for herself away from her mother.  Now she acts like her mother's twin.

That woman that wants her daughter to drive needs to get her driving lessons with a professional.  Trying to learn to drive with my mother was very similar and usually ended with us yelling at each other.  

Dawn/Cher, I find them one of the more entertaining couples, although Dawn's voice is like nails on a chalkboard. 

Brittani, tan mom, and Frank (?) have such a stupid story. 

 

Close your eyes when Dawn talks and you'll hear Mrs. Potato Head.

 

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On 6/29/2020 at 11:13 AM, jackjill89 said:

Kathi and Cristina are hilarious -- they are super close, annoying to those around them, but they aren't weird -- no bathing together, no colonics, no chasing each other around the living room. They are "smothered" in a good way, well, at least a better way.

Dawn and Cher are ridiculous, but also not in such a scary way. Dawn is so insecure. She wants to be #1 in Cher's life. New child or not. I'm shocked she actually lives in Florida away from Cher. Their twinning (now tripling) is a little too extra but harmless. The lactation consultant visit was pretty funny. It's nice to see Cher indicate that her mom is too much sometimes. 

Sunhe is a horrid person. I can't stand her. Angelica proved to be a lot more like her mother than I thought. She's no victim. She plays right into this. Brett and Jason should run, and run fast. 

Brittani and Mary -- There is something not quite right with either of them. Frank should get his own place where he can watch porn and masturbate to his hearts content. This pair isn't worth it.

The other two -- tooth sniffer and the old mom who licks and chases her daughter -- they are both really odd ducks.  The manipulation that Sunhe, Mary and these two put upon their daughters. It's not right. 

 

Agree with everything you say except on Dawn and Cher.   I can't listen to either speak.  It is cringe worthy and Dawn is so annoying to me.  She just turns me off completely.

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On 6/29/2020 at 11:13 AM, jackjill89 said:

Kathi and Cristina are hilarious -- they are super close, annoying to those around them, but they aren't weird -- no bathing together, no colonics, no chasing each other around the living room. They are "smothered" in a good way, well, at least a better way.

Eh. I prefer Kathi’s earlier work

 

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2 hours ago, justdoit10 said:

Agree with everything you say except on Dawn and Cher.   I can't listen to either speak.  It is cringe worthy and Dawn is so annoying to me.  She just turns me off completely.

Dawn's voice is sooooo irritating! She is cringeworthy for sure, but at least she doesn't seem psychotic. 

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On 6/29/2020 at 9:23 AM, Kayz Opinion said:

SunHe and Maxi-SunHe will continue as long as those TLC paychecks keep a-comin'. They're both despicable.  I FF right past Kathi and Cristina (thanks for providing their names).  The SunHes are next.   

Maxi-SunHe made me spit out my wine!  😂

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3 hours ago, jackjill89 said:

Dawn's voice is sooooo irritating! She is cringeworthy for sure, but at least she doesn't seem psychotic. 

Maybe not but I just find her so overbearing and intrusive. She totally discounts the husband's feelings and pulls the poor poor me if she isn't included in everything.  I just want to lock her in a closet.  She just gets to me.  I look forward to seeing Kathy and Cristina.  They are partners in crime but don't have the creep factors lie the others.   

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16 hours ago, justdoit10 said:

Agree with everything you say except on Dawn and Cher.   I can't listen to either speak.  It is cringe worthy and Dawn is so annoying to me.  She just turns me off completely.

Dawn seems unstable--and why hasn't she dyed her hair to match her daughter's "new" brown?  Cher might as well get a divorce (and custody, of course) and move to Florida right now...rather than making everyone suffer for the next year or two.  Bring that tiny third party into their sick little twosome permanently.   THAT is how much I dislike Dawn.  The meeting with the lactation consultant did it for me.

2 minutes ago, snarkish said:

Did a little digging and found her full name and this:

COOL!   $15/hr for the police department.  I'm lucky that I retired before "benefits" were added to my monthly wage amount.

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On 6/30/2020 at 12:24 PM, readheaded said:

Close your eyes when Dawn talks and you'll hear Mrs. Potato Head.

 

Helping Cher pack for the hoapital: Sweethawt don't forget your Angry eyes!

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So much to rant about, but on last night's episode what really got me, was when Dawn came in to get baby Belle from Cher and Hubbydoctor (What is his name?) 's room- remember they were laying in bed just resting and chatting......Cher had impeccable make up on. Fresh lipstick, perfect eyeliner ( unsmudged unblemished) and luscious lashes (either heavy duty mascara and or fake) and her hair was lovely and combed with headband of course. 

Don't you lay around your house looking like that?

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Brittany needs a decent bra, she will look thinner (if she wears one with actual elastic), her boobs are looking sloppy.  Her flat affectation reminds me of a character that Vicki Lawrence played in skits on the Carol Burnett show, super annoying voice, not too bright...if I were clever I'd find a clip and post it.

I know if I am trying to get a romance going with a guy the very first thing I do is talk about my figure flaws and insecurities.  

Did Brittany learn how to be cool from Sue Heck's copy of "Kickin' it Teen Style?"

 

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Glad Sunhe and her spawn were not in today. Liked Kathy and Christina. Mary and daughter are annoying. The daughter is so socially awkward. I cringe. 

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The convo that Brittani and Mary had after Brittani's "date" had me cringing into another time zone.

The whole thing reminded me of talks I had with my friends freshman year of high school.

"So, like, HOW did he look at you?"

"Well, I'm not sure he 100% meant to, BUT he didn't look away. And he kind of smiled. I mean, halfway."

"That TOTALLY means he likes you!"

"And! He brushed my hand in the hallway! When he reached down to pick up his water bottle!"

"OMG! Let's see how your name will look with his last name! Eek!"

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I don't know why Frank (?) allows himself to be presented as the cheater by masturbation and berated by the Mary-Britanny duo in at least one segment nearly every week.  Admittedly, he didn't make an appearance in their story last night . . . for whatever reason.  But, I would like to know how Mary and Britanny easily accept Brittany's bisexuality (this week) and flaunt their vibrator use (last week) when they have to remind Frank at every oppportunity that they just can't seem to forgive him.  I raise these issues only as examples of their hypocrisy in the name of their morality.  

Otherwise, I want to know why or how these mother-daughter pairs this season, except for SunHe and Maxi SunHe, are grating, exaggerated NYC/NJ stereotypes, usually transplanted to Florida.  

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9 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Brittany needs a decent bra, she will look thinner (if she wears one with actual elastic), her boobs are looking sloppy. 

Sometimes  breasts are sad victims of quick weight loss of over 100#.

If Brittani had a clue, she could whine to her mother and get a gift-lift at the same time as that gift-tuck.

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11 hours ago, Polliwollidoodle said:

Don't you lay around your house looking like that?

Sadly, I believe Dawn does...and raised her daughter to do the same.

Rocky Point is a Mexican beach area a few hours' drive from me.  In the early days, most Americans camped on the beach.  One of my friends got up early every morning--earlier than everyone else-- in order to put on "full make-up."  SAD...she was more beautiful than the other ladies without any make-up.

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8 minutes ago, Kayz Opinion said:

Sometimes  breasts are sad victims of quick weight loss of over 100#.

If Brittani had a clue, she could whine to her mother and get a gift-lift at the same time as that gift-tuck.

The Mommy Makeover!  

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WHAT was Brittani wearing on the "date" with Mr. Dimples? And the scarf in the hair...I don't see 19 year olds around here dressing like that for sure. Not exactly an ensemble for an iced coffee date in the Florida sun by the boats. We'll maybe her shoes were. And I guess good husband criteria according to Mary are cute dimples and being offered a ride to the grocery store? And the "let's get Mommy/Daughter surgeries!"...no wonder Brittani is one hot mess. Run Louis...run! I was totally expecting for Brittani to announce that she was completely lesbian, not bisexual. And yes, Mary's eating a lot of crow being so accepting and toying with sex toys while poor Frank can't even get in a decent tug. 

I'm not sure if Sarah is feeding off of Laurie or vice versa. If Laurie is feigning more health issues than she has for the attention or Sarah is over-reacting to Laurie for the attention. Does anyone else start to get thirsty watching these two when Sarah keeps demanding that Laurie drink her water?

To comment on the previous poster regarding Cher being all made up while lying in bed...haven't we noticed most all of these participants dolled up to the nines while lounging around perfectly neat homes? Granted, part of it is refreshing after watching M600PL or Hoarders. It just adds to all the fakery of this show though. Every "heartfelt conversation" completely staged while all made up lying in bed together.  I'm sure it's high rent, but does anyone else think Cher and her hubby's apartment and building look a bit...BLEH? And for those who see background stuff like I do, what WAS that book or picture on Cher's nightstand that looked like a book cover of her and Dawn??

Maybe it's because I was raised by the Italian side of my family, but I live for Kathy and Cristina's bits, and I LOVE Carlo and the banter between him and Kathy! "Because your designing my kitchen now...THAT'S WHY!" "Meathead Modern"...love it!

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On 7/6/2020 at 8:10 PM, snarkish said:

I'm sure it's high rent, but does anyone else think Cher and her hubby's apartment and building look a bit...BLEH? And for those who see background stuff like I do, what WAS that book or picture on Cher's nightstand that looked like a book cover of her and Dawn??

I think their apartment is pretty sad, random stuff everywhere, no style...my only thought about it is he probably has a hefty med school loan so fancy stuff may have to wait.

Sorry I missed the book of The Story of Dawn and Cher. 

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Also, I cannot figure out why this forum will not show up in my list of "Forums Followed" page...anyone have a suggestion of how to make that happen or is the the universe telling me to just look away?

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On 7/6/2020 at 5:10 PM, snarkish said:

I'm not sure if Sarah is feeding off of Laurie or vice versa. If Laurie is feigning more health issues than she has for the attention or Sarah is over-reacting to Laurie for the attention.

Laurie makes me think of these:  Hypochondria, also called illness anxiety disorder, is when you're completely preoccupied and worried that you're sick. Munchausen syndrome, now known as factitious disorder, is when you always want to be sick

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11 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Also, I cannot figure out why this forum will not show up in my list of "Forums Followed" page...anyone have a suggestion of how to make that happen or is the the universe telling me to just look away?

I have a hard time finding it too

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17 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I think their apartment is pretty sad, random stuff everywhere, no style...my only thought about it is he probably has a hefty med school loan so fancy stuff may have to wait.

Sorry I missed the book of The Story of Dawn and Cher. 

And NY has a hefty price tag in rent or mortgage alone.

1 minute ago, justdoit10 said:

I am sure NY has a hefty price tag in rent or mortgage alone.

 

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On 7/6/2020 at 6:42 AM, Polliwollidoodle said:

So much to rant about, but on last night's episode what really got me, was when Dawn came in to get baby Belle from Cher and Hubbydoctor (What is his name?) 's room- remember they were laying in bed just resting and chatting......Cher had impeccable make up on. Fresh lipstick, perfect eyeliner ( unsmudged unblemished) and luscious lashes (either heavy duty mascara and or fake) and her hair was lovely and combed with headband of course. 

Don't you lay around your house looking like that?

Most new mothers who have just torpedoed a kid out of their uterus are so frazzled that a quick shower is as glamorous as they're going to get.  

I hate when Dawn calls herself "a Mimi."  I'm a Mimi and it just sounds wrong coming from her.  

 

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So funny on Dawn sounding like Mrs. Potato, that voice is the actress who played. Estelle Costanza on Seinfeld.  If Cher does not put her mother in her place, the husband will and it will not be as nice I am sure.   Mary and Brittani are both sick, very sick.  Sunhe and Angelica are both bitches.  Hope Jason runs far away.  Kathy and Christina are funny and mostly normal.  Sarah seems more obsessed with Laurie than the other way around.  Not sure if we are going to see Marcia and Alena again, does not look like they are on this coming Sunday either.

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21 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I think their apartment is pretty sad, random stuff everywhere, no style...my only thought about it is he probably has a hefty med school loan so fancy stuff may have to wait.

Sorry I missed the book of The Story of Dawn and Cher. 

Sorry - I did not master multi-quotes to include the other comment on their apartment.

I think that their apartment is in a large, generic Upper Eastside building.  When they were walking to the hospital, someone commented that Cher would give birth on Fifth Avenue.  The cosmetic dermatology where Cher worked is also on the Upper Eastside.  It must be a 2BR, because Dawn is staying there indefinitely, until they kick her out.  

Also, Dawn and Cher did write a book, so it could have been on the nightstand.  I don't want to rewatch the episode to confirm.  

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On 7/6/2020 at 8:10 PM, snarkish said:

 

To comment on the previous poster regarding Cher being all made up while lying in bed...haven't we noticed most all of these participants dolled up to the nines while lounging around perfectly neat homes? Granted, part of it is refreshing after watching M600PL or Hoarders. It just adds to all the fakery of this show though. Every "heartfelt conversation" completely staged while all made up lying in bed together.  I'm sure it's high rent, but does anyone else think Cher and her hubby's apartment and building look a bit...BLEH? And for those who see background stuff like I do, what WAS that book or picture on Cher's nightstand that looked like a book cover of her and Dawn??

Maybe it's because I was raised by the Italian side of my family, but I live for Kathy and Cristina's bits, and I LOVE Carlo and the banter between him and Kathy! "Because your designing my kitchen now...THAT'S WHY!" "Meathead Modern"...love it!

I agree that  part of the allure of these shows is how staged they are and we can gawk a the beauty and glamour. Agree that so many will wake up with coiffed hair and make up. I just thought that Cher had extra-extra-extra -superduper coiffed and make up!

I think Cher and Dawn, and Kathy and Christina are contenders for "we will do anything to be on tv".

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Found on IMDB.  Note, mother and daughter were in some movies together:

Mini Bio (1)  Cher Hubsher is an actress, known for Inoperable (2017), Second Thoughts (2019) and Blind Thoughts (2008).

Trivia (1)  Daughter of Dawn Hubsher.

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I'm not a mental health expert at all, but I wonder if Sarah's overreaction with her mom not answering texts or the phone (at night, when she was sleeping) is a form of OCD.

Dawn, oh my goodness, how annoying and selfish she is! It seriously shouldn't be that hard to understand why your daughter and son-in-law want time alone with their new baby. Now that I think about it, she must be losing it if she can't see them during this pandemic. Unless they're quarantining together. 

Normally I would think it would be weird for a mother and daughter to get bikini waxes together, but on this show it's tame. I did crack up when one of them said the Brazilian wax should be called the bald eagle instead.

Mary and Brittani, I have no words for their creepy relationship. And Frank, dump her!

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Sunhe's cancer scare is supposed to make her appear more vulnerable.  But, she still looks like a self-centered  jerk.  Rather than address her relationship with the boyfriend, they (she) decide to focus on her health.  He's the one who raised the concern!  And, as she's crying about dying and leaving Maxi Sunhe, she never once lets go of her hate of Jason.  But she frets that her daughter will be alone.  Her mothering was not fully successful if Maxi Sunhe is struggling to stay strong, beyond that it was the daughter's misplaced first concern.

(Thanks to the poster who dubbed Angelica "Maxi Sunhe."  That is the best and all I see now!)

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On 6/21/2020 at 9:51 PM, sainte-chapelle said:

So watching porn is cheating? Cleaning out the Ex GFs stuff? Mother tagging along to divorce hearings? These ppl are nuttier than the 90 day folks

I just saw the segment about cleaning out the ex's things. Too crazy. If she can't bother to get them herself, it's time to toss the lot into the dumpster, period.

This show has so many ridiculous plot elements, so I guess this isn't more nutty than the rest, but it's just such a no brainer. Along with the phone plan.

Speaking of no brainer, mom and daughter getting surgery on the same day? Leaving, of course, no one to care for the other. Dazzlingly brilliant! What togetherness! Gag.

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5 hours ago, renatae said:

Speaking of no brainer, mom and daughter getting surgery on the same day? Leaving, of course, no one to care for the other. Dazzlingly brilliant! What togetherness! Gag.

I thought that was a strange thing to do together on the same day. The more I watch Britanni the creepier she gets, the way she looks at her mother is just odd, like she is planning her death or how to cook her.  Didn't she just graduate from the Jail Keepers Academy so isn't she supposed to go directly in to a job? How does she have time to have surgery and recup when the local government paid for her training, don't they expect a pay off as in get assigned to a prison job?  How does getting plastic surgery together make more of a bond? I could see if one of them was donating a kidney to the other...yes, there is a bonding thing but (yet another) boob job and a tummy tuck, oh puh-leese.  I have no problem with making your self feel or look better but come on, how does that mother make it so altruistic?  How does it show that they love each other?  The mother has a lot of tatoos, that was a surprise.  The daughter needs invisaline and a little boob job just to so she looks proportional to her lower body.

Sunhe cannot muster up a tear, I hate the way the word "cancer" is bandied around.  There are a lot of reasons for a lump but these two will of course milk it for all it's worth, this will be referred to a "cancer scare" when it most likely is not from now until the end of time.  Has Sunhe ever had a mamogram? 

 

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