Selling Sunset - General Discussion

[Alice Mudgarden]

I'm not done with S4 yet (slowly chipping away) but my biggest pressing question is why does every time (no really, every time) one of them arrives somewhere have to start with slo-mo footage of a car door opening and high heeled feet lowering to the ground before they strut in, also in slo-mo? Holy crap.

[Irlandesa]

On 12/12/2021 at 9:49 PM, Scarlett45 said:

This season I felt like nothing happened. Did they put all of the good stuff in season 5? Seasons 2 and 3 ended with weddings so we at least had that along with houses, and HGTV has the rights to air Tarik and Heather’s wedding. 

Season 5 is going to be so weird.  Maya is going to be pregnant and we know what happened with that.  Maya said they threw her a shower.  I wonder if it was filmed for the show.  Are they going to include that or scrap that--and whatever drama happened? 

And Reddit seems to think Chrishelland Jason have broken up so that'll be weird.

HGTV does have the Heather and Tarek wedding but I imagine we'll get some build up to their wedding. 

Some other hints based on interviews:

Spoiler

Mary said we're going to see her son.  And it sounds like we'll learn more about why the cast is angry at Christine so, unfortunately, we're getting more of that.

 

[drivethroo]

On 12/5/2021 at 2:01 AM, Irlandesa said:

Let's say one of the women decides they're just not going to do real estate any longer--does he have the right to remove them from the brokerage? 

Yes.  They're not Jason's employees, they're independent contractors working under him so if he decides he doesn't want Emma or Amanza or whoever under his umbrella he can just send their license back to the state.

On 12/8/2021 at 9:33 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I guess that is how the listing agent mistakenly put Jason's name as the broker, lol.

Technically all business is Jason's.  Not Vanessa, Chrishell, Christine etc.  All listings belong to Jason ,,,if he wants to he can boot Heather, Mary etc from the Oppenheim Group and keep all their business and there is nothing they can do about it.

On 12/9/2021 at 8:44 AM, Stan39 said:

There was a brief moment (I believe last season) where one of the twins explained their new concierge service to clients to basically take on all the minor fix-ups/renovations/misc services to prepare a house for market in exchange for some money when the house sold. I’d be much more interested in seeing shows about how that business model is/is not working and anything else business related vs cat fighting. Though, I think most realtors like to keep their business trade secrets so that others don’t copy/go somewhere else with the info. 

This is nothing new, there was a show on HGTV where these twins(!) would fix up the house, list it and when it sold, keep half of the profits.  I think it was called "Unsellable Houses."

[Irlandesa]

42 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

Yes.  They're not Jason's employees, they're independent contractors working under him so if he decides he doesn't want Emma or Amanza or whoever under his umbrella he can just send their license back to the state.

Sorry. I meant show wise.  I know he can boot them from the brokerage but now that there's a reality show component,  I wonder if part of the contract is that he has to keep the cast affiliated with his brokerage and they have to remain affiliated with him to continue being members of the cast.

That is unless the cast member wants to walk away or the show gets bored of them.

[MaggieG]

Poor Maya, that is very sad. I wonder if they are going to edit around her pregnancy now for the next season. 

[Stan39]

It’s been my experience that new reality shows have about 1.5 seasons of originality before they devolve into what every other reality tv show is. I guess what I’m saying is I’ll be checking out Selling Tampa that just dropped on Netflix and hope it satisfies my real estate porn addiction more than this series does.  

[drivethroo]

8 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

Sorry. I meant show wise.  I know he can boot them from the brokerage but now that there's a reality show component,  I wonder if part of the contract is that he has to keep the cast affiliated with his brokerage and they have to remain affiliated with him to continue being members of the cast.

Well, since the show is about agents at the Oppenheim Group, if one of the cast members decided to go to another brokerage or not do real estate, then they wouldn't/shouldn't be on the show.  Davina went to another brokerage and the show didn't follow her to the new brokerage.  If Heather decided she wanted to leave O Group to go flip houses with Tarek, the show wouldn't follow her anymore either.

The only 2 agents I could see the show following if they weren't doing real estate or left would be Chrishell and Christine.  The rest of them really aren't that interesting to be following if they left O Group.

I think this show accurately portrays the dynamics of a real estate office.  The broker does have favorites they give leads to all the time.  There are those who are jealous of the new girl.  If you REALLY want some reality tv, have a cast of middle aged female real estate agents and watch them bare their claws and start rumors about the new agent who is hot, ambitious and much younger.

[Stan39]

48 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

Well, since the show is about agents at the Oppenheim Group, if one of the cast members decided to go to another brokerage or not do real estate, then they wouldn't/shouldn't be on the show.  Davina went to another brokerage and the show didn't follow her to the new brokerage.  If Heather decided she wanted to leave O Group to go flip houses with Tarek, the show wouldn't follow her anymore either.

The only 2 agents I could see the show following if they weren't doing real estate or left would be Chrishell and Christine.  The rest of them really aren't that interesting to be following if they left O Group.

I think this show accurately portrays the dynamics of a real estate office.  The broker does have favorites they give leads to all the time.  There are those who are jealous of the new girl.  If you REALLY want some reality tv, have a cast of middle aged female real estate agents and watch them bare their claws and start rumors about the new agent who is hot, ambitious and much younger.

100% if Heather left it would be for ANOTHER show, probably with Tarek. I don’t think any of these people care about the real estate aspect of things and  are making decisions based on what gives them screen time. With so much content in the world I expect Christine and Heather are already trying to negotiate their own shows (maybe on Netflix but who knows). There’s really very little tying them to the format of SS. Paris Hilton just launched a show for Peacock that’s absolute low rent garbage, but it’s on TV 🤷‍♂️

[drivethroo]

40 minutes ago, Stan39 said:

100% if Heather left it would be for ANOTHER show, probably with Tarek. I don’t think any of these people care about the real estate aspect of things and  are making decisions based on what gives them screen time.

To be honest, most real estate agents don't care about the real estate aspect of things.  Most of them think it's easy (it's not), they'll get easy quick money (they won't), all they have to do is show up in a shiny Lexus or BMW, show a couple of houses and they get paid.  A lot of them, you see why they aren't in 9 to 5 jobs --they're intolerable.  You go on Realtor.com or Trulia and half of the pictures are taken with their cell phone and 90% of the time it's the admin doing all the work.  I bet Amanza thought it was easy, too --just show up, look cute, show the house and get paid.

If Heather, Chrishell or Christine are using real estate to springboard to other things, good for them.

Jason said something on a past episode (don't remember which season) that is absolutely true: 20% of the people bring in 80% of the business.  Probably what's going on at the O group is Mary is bringing in 80% of the business, therefore she gets more leads but the other agents think because Mary gets most of the leads that's why she's bringing in 80% of the business.  The only way to prove or disprove this is either stop giving Mary leads and see how her business holds up.  If Mary is only doing business because she's getting most of the leads, her business should fall off sharply.  However, Mary's business faltering or succeeding would have nothing to do with Heather, Christine or Maya's business.

[bichonblitz]

8 new episodes spent on talking about what a lying bitch Christine is. 

Also:

Chrishelle buys a house.

Christine has her baby.

Amanza the single mom

Heather's engaged 

The gorgeous new Mexican agent

Davina is back and nobody cares

Mary with the bad hair

Emma with the amazing body there to stir shit with the unbearable Christine.

Did I miss anything? 

[Baltimore Betty]

9 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Mary with the bad hair

I only recently started watching this show and I noticed how bad Mary's hair is in the first minute of seeing her on screen...all her money can't get her a good conditioner or a flattering cut? Maybe stop bleaching it to death?

[bichonblitz]

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I only recently started watching this show and I noticed how bad Mary's hair is in the first minute of seeing her on screen...all her money can't get her a good conditioner or a flattering cut? Maybe stop bleaching it to death?

Or put tons of long extensions in like the rest of them. 

[Scarlett45]

On 12/16/2021 at 6:54 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

I only recently started watching this show and I noticed how bad Mary's hair is in the first minute of seeing her on screen...all her money can't get her a good conditioner or a flattering cut? Maybe stop bleaching it to death?

It does look very dry. I personally like the color and the short bob on her (I think it suits her face and her personality), but does she hair spray it to death? Dry shampoo? Does she need a stream treatment?

I am not familiar with her type of hair texture so I cannot tell you exactly what she has done to it to make it look like that- but I think it could look a lot better!

[NYGirl]

Finally got around to watching Season 4 today....I'm up to Episode 7.  I don't think Chrishelle looks good this season.  What did she do to her face or is it the makeup?  She used to be so pretty.

Maya is a shit stirrer but it doesn't seem as much as previous seasons.

I believe new girl is a shit stirrer too.

I'm sick of the same old story every episode.  All they do is gossip.. 

I'm a realtor and I never see anyone from my company.  I work mostly from home.  I'm sure my broker would love us to come in and sit at a desk and talk about another co-worker.  Not!!

[GaT]

On 12/14/2021 at 11:10 PM, Irlandesa said:

Sorry. I meant show wise.  I know he can boot them from the brokerage but now that there's a reality show component,  I wonder if part of the contract is that he has to keep the cast affiliated with his brokerage and they have to remain affiliated with him to continue being members of the cast.

 

On 12/15/2021 at 7:57 AM, drivethroo said:

The only 2 agents I could see the show following if they weren't doing real estate or left would be Chrishell and Christine.  The rest of them really aren't that interesting to be following if they left O Group.

I don't if the other people have any house related skills that would keep them on the show. Amanza stopped selling houses, but now she's the in-house design expert because staging houses is what she did, so that's why she's still on the show.

[Marley]

Heather is already on Tarek’s flipping 101 show I’m pretty sure. 

I guess I’m crazy or need glasses but Mary’s hair looks good to me. I didn’t really looks closely tho.

I also weirdly wish we saw more Romain even though his name makes me think of Caesar salad. He’s hot and it would be more interesting then talking about psycho Christine for the millionth time. I guess the shows not about him tho lol.

[Neeners]

14 minutes ago, Marley said:

Heather is already on Tarek’s flipping 101 show I’m pretty sure. 

I guess I’m crazy or need glasses but Mary’s hair looks good to me. I didn’t really looks closely tho.

I also weirdly wish we saw more Romain even though his name makes me think of Caesar salad. He’s hot and it would be more interesting then talking about psycho Christine for the millionth time. I guess the shows not about him tho lol.

I don't mind Mary's hair, either. I like the cut and prefer her hair it to the extensions that go to the butt. I remember in the one scene of Christine holding her baby and her hair practically in the kid's mouth - ew.

[NYGirl]

I've been thinking about the problems the agents had this past season and I wonder if Christine is embarrassed that her lying was shown for the world to know.  But also, she looks like she actually believes her lies which is very scary.

Her husband is delusional.  Doesn't he realize that if she lies to everyone else she's lying to him about God knows what?  

This whole season was very fishy and disjointed. 

[Marley]

Christine is a raging narcissist so I’m sure she does believe her own lies. She prob just cares that to her she looked good looks wise on screen and that everyone kept saying how good she looked after having a baby. I swear she was forcing ppl to say that or something.

Her husband doesn’t care probably because he just wants a hot wife. He prob believes her bullshit too. If he doesn’t believe him about something she prob bangs him or whatever. Not sure what would be appealing about her to anyone. If she wasn’t the stereotypical blonde with a good body she wouldn’t get away with so much.

[Neeners]

I also thought it was strange when Christine made a random comment about how she drove by her ex's house and Emma's car was in the driveway. If I believe what everyone except Christine has said about their past (that they were broken up, not engaged, etc.), that comment alone seems a little *scree! scree!* to me.

[TrixieTrue]

6 hours ago, NYGirl said:

I've been thinking about the the agents had this past season and I wonder if Christine is embarrassed that her lying was shown for the world to know.  But , she looks like she believes her lies which is very scary.

Her husband is delusional.  Doesn't he realize that if she lies to everyone else she's lying to him about God knows what?  

This whole season was very fishy and disjointed. 

When she first met him, she made a comment that she sometimes took his credit card and used it to buy things. And made a joke that some call it fraud, but she calls it love. 

[Stan39]

Apparently there’s another agent from the Oppenheim group that’s going on the Bachelor. And Emma was just an Instagram model who went out, got her RE license, and joined the OG for the show. I’m beginning to think the Oppenheim Group solely exists for reality tv and social media 🧐

 

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/bachelor-contestant-works-at-selling-sunsets-oppenheim-group/amp/

[GaT]

8 hours ago, Stan39 said:

And Emma was just an Instagram model who went out, got her RE license, and joined the OG for the show.

No, Emma has worked there since 2018

[Stan39]

9 hours ago, GaT said:

No, Emma has worked there since 2018

2018 is when they began filming season 1. She joined knowing they were filming or had a deal for a reality show and has probably been trying to get on screen since joining. 

[Marley]

Apparently Chrishell and Jason broke up. Their whole relationship just seems so fake for a storyline. The whole next season seems like a waste and annoying now since we will be watching their relationship knowing they have already broke up. Jason is one of those guys who prob won’t settle down til he’s in his 50s and will settle down with some young 20 yr old ig model or something lol.

[Avabelle]

Just finished season 4 - Christine is certifiable at this point. Her lies are insane. I’m kind of glad the girls are just eye rolling it now as don’t think I could watch any scenes of them actually trying to go back to normal with her. The lie about the engagement was just nuts.

also - who made Vanessa her puppet? This is a 40 odd woman who inserted herself into the drama and made herself the speaker for Christine? What a loser.

I felt like everyone just had the same exposition in every episode:

Amanza is a single mom

chrishelle bought a house but was at one point homeless

christine had a baby and is thin despite (apparently) eating all the time.

Mary talks about Christine

davina shit stirs really awkwardly because there’s nothing subtle about her. 

maya shit stirs cos she’s having a hoot and thinks they’re all eejits.

Heather is stressed about Christine for reasons I still don’t understand. I think she just wanted to be involved to be honest. 

 

As already said there wasn’t much happening. Still entertaining though I guess.
 

 

 

 

 

[Infiltr8]

So I just finished season 4, Christine in the past was crazy but kind of fun at times…. This season beyond annoying… she keeps talking about not caring about the past but she is the one who kept bringing it up…. She brought up her past w/Emma before she was brought into the office to work…. And it got old that is all the others talked about when they got together —I’m sure it was what producers wanted them to do but I’d like to see more of the houses or how the deals got closed etc…..and Davina trying to change but brings up realtor for chriselle house— which Jason already told her was a simple mistake and bringing up issues or asking questions to start trouble 

and I know some women do bounce back quickly after giving birth but if some of these scenes really filmed one or 2 weeks after C-section I might be able to get on board with her having a surrogate….

I’m was very sad to hear about Maya… I hope they let her decide what to show in Season 5…

 

[peachmangosteen]

12 hours ago, Avabelle said:

Heather is stressed about Christine for reasons I still don’t understand. I think she just wanted to be involved to be honest. 

Apparently, Christine was trashing Tarek and Heather's relationship with him in the media so I think that's what the problem was for Heather.

[Goodtimes]

2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Apparently, Christine was trashing Tarek and Heather's relationship with him in the media so I think that's what the problem was for Heather.

Christine was very vocal accusing Tarek & Heather letting paparazzi know where and when to find them for all those "candid" shots. 

[j4lambert]

The Wikipedia article for Selling Sunset only focuses on the individual aspects of the show and not its spin-off series Selling Tampa. After the premiere of Selling Tampa, Discovery+ announced that it would air a sequel to the cancelled Netflix series Million Dollar Beach House. This sequel is called Selling the Hamptons, and is expected to be the first series in the Selling Sunset franchise to not air on Netflix; Selling Tampa and Selling the OC were ordered by Netflix as direct spin-offs before the series was announced. The premiere date for Selling the Hamptons is January 20, 2022. 
 

A Wikipedia article on the entire Selling Sunset franchise needs to be produced, as was done with the Real Housewives franchise. This would include a list of international versions of Selling Sunset and associated spin-offs. 

https://behindthehedges.com/selling-the-hamptons-set-to-premiere-january-20/#.YbyE5hfW_eo.twitter

 

[Marley]

Weird so it’s basically the same show as million dollar beach house. I won’t be watching because I’m not paying for yet another streaming service I’m so tired of all these streaming services lol.

[j4lambert]

16 hours ago, Marley said:

Weird so it’s basically the same show as million dollar beach house. I won’t be watching because I’m not paying for yet another streaming service I’m so tired of all these streaming services lol.

That is correct. 

[peachmangosteen]

 

[Scarlett45]

On 4/9/2022 at 8:44 AM, peachmangosteen said:

 

Oh that’s soon!

[Ciarrai]

Apparently Kane from Bling Empire works for Oppenheim Group now.

[zenithwit]

I'm 20 minutes into the first episode and Christine is already talking about sleep training a 3 month old (which even the most hard core sleep trainers wouldn't advocate for). Clearly this show hasn't learned ANYTHING from the criticisms last season.  (Or maybe they just liked the PR?)

Mini-rant: Personally, I'm not a fan of sleep training but I understand why some parents choose to do it.  Let's be honest, Christine probably either has an easy-going baby or a night nanny (or maybe both).  If this show continues down this path with Christine, I may seriously be out.

[Keywestclubkid]

I felt bad for the new girl her first episode talking about how wearing flats was the most embarrassing thing she has ever done then they show her talking with lipstick on her teeth … was no one like umm girl.. lol 

[peachmangosteen]

I haven't started yet. I can't decide if I can take anymore of Christine or not.

[Keywestclubkid]

13 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I haven't started yet. I can't decide if I can take anymore of Christine or not.

I’m on episode 4 right now and she is playing this part of being so oblivious to what she has done and continues to do to be “wrong” that it borders on a caricature of a person … like seriously if she came out twirling a mustache I wouldn’t be shocked … 

[NeenerNeener]

Oh Chelsea, you are Christine's mouthpiece. And her attack dog too. I'm not sure this show is watchable with two Christines.

[smallfry]

I have only watched 2 episodes and I can't any more with Christine. And what is with her calling all the girls bitches, like she thinks she is so cool. Hate to tell her but middle school was a long time ago!

[Alice Mudgarden]

I don't dislike her or anything, but all I can see when I look at Emma is Mira Sorvino with Jennifer Coolidge's mouth.

[GaT]

I'm on episode 2 of the new season, please tell me that the entire season is not about Jason & Chrishell's relationship, I am bored hearing about it already. 

[NeenerNeener]

3 hours ago, GaT said:

please tell me that the entire season is not about Jason & Chrishell's relationship,

You're going to be disappointed then. It's about 35% Jason and Chrishell, about 5% real estate porn, about 10% things going on with the other agents,  and 50% Christine being a bitch to everyone and recruiting a Brit to help her stir shit.

ETA:

Spoiler

if Chrishell really wants a baby and she's got the money to afford a nanny then she should just go ahead and use a sperm donor. At 40 she can't afford to wait for Mr. Right (or Jason) anymore.

 

Edited April 23, 2022 by NeenerNeener

[Keywestclubkid]

Chelsea stating I’m a ride or die kind of girl friend to Christine’s face but then in her talking head saying if Christines a sinking ship she will bail… lol I just can’t with this haha … yea you’re a true ride or die chick Chelsea lol 

Edited April 23, 2022 by Keywestclubkid

[GaT]

12 hours ago, NeenerNeener said:

You're going to be disappointed then. It's about 35% Jason and Chrishell, about 5% real estate porn, about 10% things going on with the other agents,  and 50% Christine being a bitch to everyone and recruiting a Brit to help her stir shit.

ETA:

  Reveal spoiler

if Chrishell really wants a baby and she's got the money to afford a nanny then she should just go ahead and use a sperm donor. At 40 she can't afford to wait for Mr. Right (or Jason) anymore.

 

Sigh, I wish it was 15% other agents, 10% Chrishell & Jason, & 75% real estate porn. That leaves 0% Christine.

EDITED: Make that 10% other agents, 5% Chrishell & Jason, & 85% real estate porn. 0% Christine stays the same

Edited April 23, 2022 by GaT

[Megan]

On 12/4/2021 at 6:15 AM, pasdetrois said:

It has bugged me who Vanessa resembles. Last night I realized I was thinking of Tiffany Fallon, former Miss Georgia, Playboy Bunny, and occasional actress - married to a country music star.

Tiffany Fallon IMDB Photo

I see an older Ana De Armas.

 

Season 5 Thoughts:

The bribery thing is so off the wall only because of the amount. It's such a small amount.

Heather is a full on grown up and pretty great, reality personality wise at least.

Davina has improved a lot too. I have always liked Mary, no idea why she married that child Romain. His pride about making and paying is own way is silly given that he is working for one of the twins and I doubt got that job on his actual merits and experience.

If you've ever had a friend (or ex) like Christine. They always seem to find new people that burn hot, defend and fight for them, but not for very long.  Chelsea is that now, but Christine's villain shtick is so hammy that it's stupid. And Chelsea just sucks. Production did her dirty showing off her DIY tailoring on a lot of her clothes.

[NeenerNeener]

2 hours ago, Megan said:

The bribery thing is so off the wall only because of the amount. It's such a small amount.

Maybe that's all she can take out of the joint account without the hubby asking questions. If she has her own personal funds they may be low right now because she's been on maternity leave and not working. I'll bet she's still spending like a drunken sailor though. That enormous "Wedding of the Damned" red and black flower arrangement she sent for Heather's shower couldn't have been cheap.

I can't wait for the reunion episode. Jason should have fired her but I'll bet Netflix wouldn't let him. Christine, Chelsea and Davina should form their own agency (since Davina's the only broker) but it won't happen unless Netflix is interested in creating a show for them.

[maggiegil]

Its so sad watching Maya so happy about her new baby when we know what happens, my heart was breaking for her every time she was on screen.

I found Chelsea's accent very odd, it had a real Australian twang at certain points. Did not understand why her client went 30k over ask, there weren't other offers on the table just go in at ask or below, it wasn't as if it was a bargain that you had to snap up asap

The huge breast implants on Christine and Chelsea look so odd now that most people have gone for a more natural look, it looks so dated and 90's.

The only agents who actually seem to sell anything are Mary, Chrishell and Maya, the rest of them seem to be doing nothing.

That client of Davina's who was accusing her basically of harassing but also not being "there for her" was unreasonable, that interaction made everyone but Mary look bad, both the client and Davina came off looking bad. I can't believe Davina went back to Adnan, the twins were right, she should have said no to the 75m listing and she wouldn't have to be proving herself to him now.
 

[maggiegil]

3 hours ago, Megan said:

The bribery thing is so off the wall only because of the amount. It's such a small amount.

If you're a serious player in the real estate market 5k is nothing. 5k not to work with an agent would be the kind of deal you might be able to do with a small time buyer in the back arse of nowhere but still. If you try to pay me off not to work with someone, I think I'd be more likely to work with them than you if you're that threatened by them.

I mean Christine has not shown herself to be a great agent, have we seen her sell any property on the show? She might have but none that I can remember