Million Dollar Listing LA - General Discussion

[ZettaK]

7 hours ago, rhofmovalley said:

And I don't know what's going on with Tracy's wardrobe choices but she at least used to choose interestingly designed professional wear. Now it's all bare midriffs and cutouts. That doesn't look good on any purported professional regardless of age. IMO, of course. 

Tracy has a younger boyfriend, and she wants to appear more youthful, and trendy. Supposedly.

Edited March 4, 2023 by ZettaK

[rhofmovalley]

37 minutes ago, Oregonrain said:

I don't know about the specifics in Nevada

When I lived there (2010-2020) there was no state income tax, costs were lower and housing was much less expensive than California. From my understanding, Clark County (where Vegas and Henderson are located) gets a lot of revenue from gambling and tourism, so the property taxes were also able to be lower.  My friends who still live there say costs are going up although there is still no state income tax. My previous rental (a two bedroom, two bathroom townhouse with large backyard and two car garage located inside a country club community) is currently renting for several hundred dollars more than what I paid in 2020.

There was also an influx of luxury homes being built right before I left and it's apparently still ongoing. 

But there were already so many new homes. I can't see there's a demand for the kind of tacky, ugly metallic looking homes like the one the Joshes toured. That thing was hideous. 

[readheaded]

5 hours ago, Genlovestv said:

Josh is the one that left Bobby FFS!!! Josh's poor me attitude is cringe worthy 

 

Agreed. And, he pissed me off with the apology to Tracy. He doesn't understand when you do something awful, people don't have to accept your apology and if they do, it's on their time, not when it's best for you.

He seems to be spiraling.

[rhofmovalley]

People on Instagram saying this was the best season ever and they loved the Vegas episodes. What am I missing here??

[Grrarrggh]

16 minutes ago, rhofmovalley said:

People on Instagram saying this was the best season ever and they loved the Vegas episodes. What am I missing here??

Well, that's IG for you... (she says, ruthlessly judging and stereotyping strangers and not feeling at all bad about it). 

[Cheyanne11]

Worst season ever!  I didn't realize how awful it was until they were doing the wrap-up of their 'oh, we're awesome' years at the end.  The Vegas stuff was both boring and unrealistic (those ugly monoliths are never getting built), the drama was manufactured, and having only three agents hurt the show--especially by then having them all focus on ONE thing.  There was very little fun house porn this year.  They need to rethink this for next season, because Tracy and her bare midriffs, Heather and her fake tears, Flagg being an asshole and Altman going on forever about his 'sick' deals ain't it.

[bichonblitz]

28 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

There was very little fun house porn this year.  They need to rethink this for next season, because Tracy and her bare midriffs, Heather and her fake tears, Flagg being an asshole and Altman going on forever about his 'sick' deals ain't it.

Yes! To me the appeal of this show has always been the landscape of California. All the good, bad, beautiful and ugly of the state! I want to see the homes, the locations, the unrealistic sellers, the snobby buyers and the occasional agent stealing a listing from another. Bring all that back, please! I don't want to see Vegas, Dubai (Tracy went there one season) or Texas. 

[CrazyInAlabama]

12 hours ago, rhofmovalley said:

People on Instagram saying this was the best season ever and they loved the Vegas episodes. What am I missing here??

Probably people on their teams, and friends.    

Another issue is that sometimes when the builder makes the most sales, they go out of business, and either rename the company, or someone else takes over, so the contracts saying they'll build amenities are no longer going to be in force.   That happened where I used to live, the advertised amenities were empty pools, and nothing else ever built.     That really hurt the resale too.    I'm wondering how long before there are actual paved roads up that mountain too? 

[ZettaK]

13 hours ago, rhofmovalley said:

People on Instagram saying this was the best season ever and they loved the Vegas episodes. What am I missing here??

The show's IG page, the realtors' pages, or random IG pages? It could be stans, the realtors' friends and families, or paid accounts/bloggers. And Bravo, of course.

[CruiseDiva]

6 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Yes! To me the appeal of this show has always been the landscape of California. All the good, bad, beautiful and ugly of the state! I want to see the homes, the locations, the unrealistic sellers, the snobby buyers and the occasional agent stealing a listing from another. Bring all that back, please! I don't want to see Vegas, Dubai (Tracy went there one season) or Texas. 

Don't flame me, but this season was so bad that I actually miss Madison and the gorgeous beach views in Malibu. 🤣

[rhofmovalley]

32 minutes ago, CruiseDiva said:

Don't flame me, but this season was so bad that I actually miss Madison and the gorgeous beach views in Malibu. 🤣

I didn't mind Madison. I can't see that he was more dysfunctional than Flagg. 

[QQQQ]

22 minutes ago, rhofmovalley said:

I didn't mind Madison. I can't see that he was more dysfunctional than Flagg. 

I loved early seasons Madison. He was downright creepy his last season.

[Soapy Goddess]

On 3/3/2023 at 8:51 PM, rhofmovalley said:

People on Instagram saying this was the best season ever and they loved the Vegas episodes. What am I missing here??

A different point of view?

[RoseAllDay]

So Flagg shows up with his sad puppy dog face, his dinner buzzkill, and his tears and all is forgiven. Nothing will change with him. These people guarantee it. He needs tough love, not Tracy wiping his tears and telling him it will be okay. Not saying that the friendship should be permanently broken (they do have to work with each other), but I don’t see how it can be the same after what he said to Juliet. But I think he will never truly get that what he says can hurt.

I was totally offended by that model home. I know it was designed to show all the possibilities of the floor plans. But my gorge rose with the car elevator to the bedroom. These types of houses just leave me cold on many levels. Give me a Ernst Leubisch property any day. They are basically selling dirt in the desert. I didn’t catch what Tracy said about the building timetable compared to LA, but it sounded like it was much faster. Red flag right there, given the size and scope of those designs. Uberluxury homes can also be built in a hurry with crap material.

That potential buyer nailed it. This development is another country. Big nope from me. Two year build? A LOT can happen in two years. Caveat emptor.

I’m glad this season didn’t go any longer than it did. Slimming things down to just four Realtors (counting Heather) played up the personal dramas more than the properties. Bring back Parnes and Harris, with the occasional cameo by Mo Umansky.

An overall “meh” from me.

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

I was totally offended by that model home. I know it was designed to show all the possibilities of the floor plans. But my gorge rose with the car elevator to the bedroom. These types of houses just leave me cold on many levels. Give me a Ernst Leubisch property any day. They are basically selling dirt in the desert. I didn’t catch what Tracy said about the building timetable compared to LA, but it sounded like it was much faster. Red flag right there, given the size and scope of those designs. Uberluxury homes can also be built in a hurry with crap material.

I love a good Cali modern but this monstrosity was gross to me in a dozen different ways, first being it WASN'T IN CALIFORNIA.  I enjoy looking at the California houses/lifestyles, both old and new - thus the L.A. in the title of this show.   Water features in the desert in 2023?  Really?  I can't even imagine what it costs to cool/heat that house that looks like a commercial building.  Are giant energy footprints even popular?  Maybe by the overseas uber-rich but where I live in the PNW, not so much. 

Too little real estate, too much fake drama.  I've never liked Heather (thought she was a famewhore) and I don't care about Flagg's relationships with young men.   I find Altman entertaining in SMALL doses but one of three/four is too much. 

 

Edited March 5, 2023 by Cosmocrush

[CrazyInAlabama]

The size of the pool, and the other features with water for that development was a total waste of water, and resources.     That model home was hideous.    

[Welshman in Ca]

26 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

The size of the pool, and the other features with water for that development was a total waste of water, and resources.     That model home was hideous.    

While I didn't like the house each to their own as long as I'm not living in it.

The water usage is minimal when compared to the amount used for farming crap like almonds that are not even an indigenous crop and use more than 10 times the amount of water per pound than even strawberries which are mostly water.

[RoseAllDay]

15 hours ago, Welshman in Ca said:

While I didn't like the house each to their own as long as I'm not living in it.

The water usage is minimal when compared to the amount used for farming crap like almonds that are not even an indigenous crop and use more than 10 times the amount of water per pound than even strawberries which are mostly water.

Doesn’t Las Vegas get most of its water from Lake Mead? The Lake Mead that is drying up? Water availability is becoming a huge issue in that region, so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be concerned about further development, especially in areas that are really not habitable. Not every square acre of land — desert or not — needs to be developed, especially for these luxury, in-your-face projects. Diversion of resources ultimately leads to trouble, IMO.

On 3/4/2023 at 11:42 AM, Cheyanne11 said:

Worst season ever!  I didn't realize how awful it was until they were doing the wrap-up of their 'oh, we're awesome' years at the end.  The Vegas stuff was both boring and unrealistic (those ugly monoliths are never getting built), the drama was manufactured, and having only three agents hurt the show--especially by then having them all focus on ONE thing.  There was very little fun house porn this year.  They need to rethink this for next season, because Tracy and her bare midriffs, Heather and her fake tears, Flagg being an asshole and Altman going on forever about his 'sick' deals ain't it.

Bravo needs to learn the concept of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.

Edited March 6, 2023 by RoseAllDay

[kristen111]

On 2/17/2023 at 10:36 AM, bichonblitz said:

Heather cracks me up when she is with the Altman team presenting what ever bull she's selling. She really gets off on being the head bitch in charge. Man, did she ever fall in to a big tub of butter. I get it she does work hard but I feel she's constantly trying to prove she's worthy of being the CEO of the Altman Bros. 

Nice life Heather has.  I’m wondering who’s watching the two kids while she’s out in Vegas doing deals.  She has it all.  Money talks.

[bichonblitz]

Oh, Jeesh! Tracy posted this long thank you on IG to all the people and fans that made this season such a success! She's thanking her hair and makeup people and her clothing stylists (yeah, they need to be fired). Thanking her team, the Josh's, Heather, her boyfriend, her kids and anybody and everybody she can think of. Give it a rest, woman. You are not the center of the universe!

Meanwhile, crickets from the others.  

Edited March 6, 2023 by bichonblitz

[heatherchandler]

On 3/3/2023 at 8:16 AM, RoseAllDay said:

Why am I not surprised? Flagg needs help. He needs to work on himself first if he expects to ever have a healthy relationship, romantic or not, with anybody. I doubt he truly understood why what he said to Juliet was so very wrong and why Tracy was so upset — only that, “Tracy’s mad at me and I’m sad.”  Arrested development, narcissism, or buried childhood trauma, I can’t tell.

 

I am thinking Flagg is popping pills.  He acts like people I have known who are on opiates.  They say crazy stuff, and act inappropriately, and it just fits.

I remember maybe the first season, Josh mentioned that he was in rehab pretty young, maybe for coke.  I thought he was sober, but he definitely drinks wine.  He is friends with the Davis brothers, or was friends with Jason(?) Davis who died from an overdose.

In any event, I see him spiraling and it is screaming substance abuse to me.

 

On 3/3/2023 at 1:02 PM, ML89 said:

The discussion of the design center as this unique thing - maybe to high end folks but that is every new development I’ve ever been to, at different price points. That’s why you buy new construction. The VR stuff was really bad.

The VR stuff was horrible.  It looked like a cartoon.  There are apps that can make it look like a real home, I don't understand why they didn't do that.  Otherwise, why walk through drawings?

[RoseAllDay]

6 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

 

I am thinking Flagg is popping pills.  He acts like people I have known who are on opiates.  They say crazy stuff, and act inappropriately, and it just fits.

I remember maybe the first season, Josh mentioned that he was in rehab pretty young, maybe for coke.  I thought he was sober, but he definitely drinks wine.  He is friends with the Davis brothers, or was friends with Jason(?) Davis who died from an overdose.

In any event, I see him spiraling and it is screaming substance abuse to me.

 

The VR stuff was horrible.  It looked like a cartoon.  There are apps that can make it look like a real home, I don't understand why they didn't do that.  Otherwise, why walk through drawings?

Like how Flagg had the Leubisch property reimagined? (Maybe I’m old school, but I like that house the way it is. The renderings just took out all its character, IMO)

The Vegas plotline with its VR/Mad Max bullshit was just the latest in the long line of nonsensical gimmicks they’ve pulled over the years. I’d be curious to know if stuff like that really happens on a regular basis with luxury LA real estate firms, IRL. I cannot believe stuff like that godawful Tracy-Heather video is common.

Interesting theory on Flagg. His whole behavior on that trip was weird, even for him, so maybe there’s a lot more behind it than him just wanting to provoke.

[TheLastKidPicked]

3 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

In any event, I see him spiraling and it is screaming substance abuse to me.

 

2 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Interesting theory on Flagg. His whole behavior on that trip was weird, even for him, so maybe there’s a lot more behind it than him just wanting to provoke.

 

One thing that Madison (from years ago) and Josh Flagg have proven, and that is money cannot buy happiness.

Speaking of money . . . 

Did anybody else notice the conversation between Altman and the "buyer" of the first lot?  All we've heard about this whole time is 30 million dollar houses.  That's the business model.

But when the actor buyer said,  "I want to be at 15 million",  Josh came right back with  "Yes, that's our bread and butter."

What?

How mad would you be if you paid $30 million and suddenly comps are popping up for 15?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 6, 2023 by TheLastKidPicked

[realityplease]

40 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

The Vegas plotline with its VR/Mad Max bullshit was just the latest in the long line of nonsensical gimmicks they’ve pulled over the years. I’d be curious to know if stuff like that really happens on a regular basis with luxury LA real estate firms, IRL. I cannot believe stuff like that godawful Tracy-Heather video is common.

I agree & don't understand how dressing up as if it's Halloween highlights or sells the property itself - even if there's a tenuous (at best) connection. 

All it does is give work to more makeup artists, costumers, fire-eaters, contortionists & the poor fools who take jobs being stuck inside a bubble floating in a pool. (Calling themselves what? A "bubble artiste??")

Usually, it's free food & drink & networking opportunities that draws brokers.  Or having a potential client who might be interested in the home or area. Many brokers - high & low end - aren't picky or need to be wow-ed.  A caravan that drops brokers off at low-level homes to be served deli sandwiches can be mobbed also. (Flagg was disdainful of Bobby's serving a fruit parfait, but those get scarfed down too.) Is THAT really going to make or break a sale?? Get real.   

The added hoopla adds expense for the agents, but if it keeps the attendees in the home longer to concentrate on the home's details. or more importantly, you get lots of people there at once instead of wasting time on multiple walk-throughs - great.  But after a broker has seen one (or double) kitchen island with waterfall marble or granite or a movie or wine room or huge walk in closet (or room) or infinity pool, how notably different are any of the new white box copycats? 

The real focus is sq. footage, lot size, no. of bedrooms & baths & price - & glaring issues like shared driveway, sloped lot, noisy street, bad layout, etc. Some goof walking on stilts or Altman in arm-baring leather (which is not the attractive sight he thinks it is) is not the deal-maker.    

[bichonblitz]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

I am thinking Flagg is popping pills.  He acts like people I have known who are on opiates.  They say crazy stuff, and act inappropriately, and it just fits.

Pills and wine. I could see it clearly now that you mentioned it. 

Same thing I believe happened to Madison his last season. 

[ML89]

22 minutes ago, TheLastKidPicked said:

Did anybody else notice the conversation between Altman and the "buyer" of the first lot?  All we've heard about this whole time is 30 million dollar houses.  That's the business model.

But when the actor client said,  "I want to be right at 15 million",  Josh came right back with  "Yes, that's our bread and butter."

What?

How mad would you be if you paid $30 million and suddenly comps are popping up for 15?

I think that might be the "smaller" houses - they aren't going to be all $30 plus but you're right, there's going to be some real snobbery/fights about the pricing. If that was a real sale and not some set up. Although there were orange colored sites on the site map, so were those other sales or were those the luxury equivalent of "quick move in" or "spec" houses? Big developments usually make a couple of non customized houses.

15 minutes ago, realityplease said:

I agree & don't understand how dressing up as if it's Halloween highlights or sells the property itself - even if there's a tenuous (at best) connection. 

 

So they ponied up over $100 grand and this party is what they got. Again, the professionals from Terra Firma are dressed professionally while the TV gang is in their costumes (Josh and Matt switching outfits - set up or real?).

 

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

The VR stuff was horrible.  It looked like a cartoon.  There are apps that can make it look like a real home, I don't understand why they didn't do that.  Otherwise, why walk through drawings?

I cannot understand that at all. Renderings on HGTV look better. On the other hand, I now see why Vanilla Ice was always going on about using oynx in his remodels on The Vanilla Ice Project - I thought it was cheap and flashy, now I see that it's expensive and flashy

 

20 minutes ago, realityplease said:

But after a broker has seen one (or double) kitchen island with waterfall marble or granite or a movie or wine room or huge walk in closet (or room) or infinity pool, how notably different are any of the new white box copycats? 

Exactly.

I still cannot fathom why I want a car elevator to bring my car up to my bedroom, in that comp house. I want stinky car fumes up in my bedroom?

[realityplease]

The montage of homes near the end of the episode was interesting. While some sold, a good number ended up leased, never sold (that we know of - or if sold than for what price if dropped off the initial listing price), or perhaps, the listings shifted to others.  Several were featured for 1-2 episodes only to drop from view. Lots of loose ends.

Maybe Altman should stop bragging about 1 Billion (ok, we got it - BILLION) in sales.  Spread among how many AB agent/brokers, helpers & staff though??  If just HIS sales - wow.  But it's not. It's sales among him, Matt, Heather & untold numbers of other agents/brokers in their L.A. & Newport offices.  And AB has to support numerous staff, assistants & now, two offices, as well. 

Recent ads show Altman sharing listings among 2 (& lately, 3) other agents - so maybe not so wow.  There'll be a a challenging year ahead for real estate & the problem with bragging is the stress to maintain it.  You almost see him sweating - but he's doing this to himself. 

[ML89]

19 minutes ago, realityplease said:

Maybe Altman should stop bragging about 1 Billion (ok, we got it - BILLION) in sales.  Spread among how many AB agent/brokers, helpers & staff though??  If just HIS sales - wow.  But it's not. It's sales among him, Matt, Heather & untold numbers of other agents/brokers in their L.A. & Newport offices.  And AB has to support numerous staff, assistants & now, two offices, as well. 

Yes, that also bothers me, the whole "Josh's commission" - spread out among how many people? He's got all those teams, plus rent and who knows how many expenses...then again, I'm still trying to work out how the lady with the cats ponied up $17 million for a house.

[heatherchandler]

1 hour ago, ML89 said:

Yes, that also bothers me, the whole "Josh's commission" - spread out among how many people? He's got all those teams, plus rent and who knows how many expenses...then again, I'm still trying to work out how the lady with the cats ponied up $17 million for a house.

How do all these weirdos have so much money???

[TheLastKidPicked]

1 hour ago, ML89 said:

I'm still trying to work out how the lady with the cats ponied up $17 million for a house.

 

23 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

How do all these weirdos have so much money???

 

You are both reminding me of the O.J. Simpson trial years ago.  People from all over the world came to Los Angeles to cover the case.  

People not from L.A. were flabbergasted and kept wondering, "How do all these people have so much money?"

The media canvassed the neighborhoods around Brentwood to interview people and find out if they had anything to add to the O.J. story.  One thing that surprised them right away was how many people were home in the middle of the work day.

The reporters wanted to give a bit of background on the people being interviewed so they would ask,   "And what do you do for a living?"  The reporters from outside of L.A. were baffled at how many people didn't do anything and were living in multi million dollar houses.

They just couldn't believe it.

 

 

 

 

[Grrarrggh]

1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

How do all these weirdos have so much money???

They inherit it and then live in a country where they pay next to nothing, or even nothing, in taxes.  

[dleighg]

8 minutes ago, TheLastKidPicked said:

"And what do you do for a living?"  The reporters from outside of L.A. were baffled at how many people didn't do anything

I thought the usual answer is "I'm an investor," LOL

[realityplease]

5 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

How do all these weirdos have so much money???

5% commission on a $20 million dollar home sale is $1 million.  5% on a 5 mil dollar home sale is $250,00.  A few sales a year at these prices, even with overhead, nets a nice yearly income.

In addition, Flagg inherited from well-to-do grandparents on both mother & father's sides & his fashion designer granny's many cronies & contacts in their Beverly Hills, Bel Air & Hancock Park mansions were his initial clients when he was all of 18.  His clientele was ready-made from the start. (He was de-railed a few decades back by a federal criminal lawsuit that charged him with stealing artwork from a client's home but the matter was resolved & Flagg's PR people scrubbed it from the internet though his name & pic are still on the rep fixer's website.)

Tracy's dad is Ron Tutor.  He's a known contractor, developer & businessman - worth over a billion, maybe? She too, mixed in high end circles, yielding high end contacts.

Altman isn't from big wealth like Tracy or Flagg, but his parents were/are very comfortable.  So even if he struggled to make it at first & even went bankrupt after his first efforts at various businesses failed or he overextended in poorly timed markets, he had folks he could fall back on or could help out a bit - he wasn't going to be on the street. Plus, he has a hunger, ego & competitiveness that pushes him to achieve & do it on his own.  While he seems to have mellowed (a bit) since marrying, having kids & achieving success- his ambition remains apparent & strong.

As for those L.A. clients who seem to do nothing - some people come to L.A. (or born here) with inherited wealth. In school, I was told 90% of all wealth is inherited. Very hard to start with nothing & make it big - though it happens. 

And where it happens - entertainment, music biz, new tech wealth - happens in CA. These folks don't need day jobs like the rest of us & have cash to plunk down in hefty amounts.  And later sell & downsize when the career or business tanks or they run through the inheritance & can't keep up with the taxes.  Keeps the market ever churning.  

They tell you they're producers, investors, day traders or whatever.  Later you discover their dearly departed father was a famous author who quietly made millions & passed it on to them - or the last name you thought was just a name is actually the name of a famous product or business & is their family business - as they go off to visit the "family compound" in the Caribbean.  Some have totally real wealth - but this being L.A., also some phony as hell & leased & pretend wealth. 

Edited March 7, 2023 by realityplease

[CrazyInAlabama]

There are still a lot of overseas buyers too.   Buying real estate is a way to move your wealth overseas. 

There are also the divorcing, and marrying group, who will churn through three or four homes from marrying and divorcing.    Most divorces equal a sale, and two buys.   Marriage or living together is another reason to buy too.   

[RoseAllDay]

18 hours ago, ML89 said:

I think that might be the "smaller" houses - they aren't going to be all $30 plus but you're right, there's going to be some real snobbery/fights about the pricing. If that was a real sale and not some set up. Although there were orange colored sites on the site map, so were those other sales or were those the luxury equivalent of "quick move in" or "spec" houses? Big developments usually make a couple of non customized houses.

So they ponied up over $100 grand and this party is what they got. Again, the professionals from Terra Firma are dressed professionally while the TV gang is in their costumes (Josh and Matt switching outfits - set up or real?).

 

I cannot understand that at all. Renderings on HGTV look better. On the other hand, I now see why Vanilla Ice was always going on about using oynx in his remodels on The Vanilla Ice Project - I thought it was cheap and flashy, now I see that it's expensive and flashy

 

Exactly.

I still cannot fathom why I want a car elevator to bring my car up to my bedroom, in that comp house. I want stinky car fumes up in my bedroom?

I imagine these folks exclusively drive EVs. But the point remains. It’s ridiculous. 

[Surrealist]

18 hours ago, dleighg said:

I thought the usual answer is "I'm an investor," LOL

Or "I'm an entrepreneur."

 

[Cheezwiz]

11 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

Or "I'm an entrepreneur."

 

Or, "I'm a consultant".

[ML89]

2 hours ago, Cheezwiz said:

Or, "I'm a consultant".

"I'm in crypto."

[TheLastKidPicked]

22 hours ago, dleighg said:

I thought the usual answer is "I'm an investor," LOL

 

4 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Or "I'm an entrepreneur."

 

4 hours ago, Cheezwiz said:

Or, "I'm a consultant".

 

1 hour ago, ML89 said:

"I'm in crypto."

 

This reminds me of a funny interview with a consultant who got caught up in a trial and was interviewed.  

Reporter:  How do you know this man?

Consultant:  He had interesting stories to tell, and I teach a class on how to sell your screenplay to major studios.

Reporter:  So you sell screenplays to studios?

Consultant:  No

Reporter:  Then what was your working relationship?

Consultant:  His stories would make a good screenplay.  I teach a class on how to sell your screenplay.

Reporter:  So you have sold screenplays to major studios before?

Consultant:  No.  

Reporter:  What was he paying you for?

Consultant:  People pay me to teach them how to sell their screenplay to the studios.

Reporter:  But you've never actually sold a screenplay?

Consultant:  Correct.  I just teach other people how to do it.

People outside of L.A.:   Why would people pay a consultant to sell a screenplay who's NEVER SOLD A SCREENPLAY?

People inside L.A.  Actually, that sounds about right.

Edited March 7, 2023 by TheLastKidPicked

[Booger666]

I can’t believe how much I like Altman now compared to when the show started.  Especially this season compared to Tracy and Flagg, who are both obnoxious and unpleasant AF.

[bichonblitz]

10 hours ago, Booger666 said:

I can’t believe how much I like Altman now compared to when the show started.  Especially this season compared to Tracy and Flagg, who are both obnoxious and unpleasant AF.

Altman certainly has settled down and become more likable. He fell madly in love with Heather and they make a great couple. He embraced marriage and having children. I think his parents set a good example of that and were excellent role models. 

I'm dying to know what happened to cause the abrupt ending of soulmates Flagg and Andrew? Anybody have any tea on that? It sure is hush hush.  I see on Flagg's IG he's hanging out a lot with Candy Spelling and some other rich blowhard old lady from Bev Hills. How depressing. Maybe Andrew was using Flagg to get on TV and dumped him after the season was finished? 

Edited March 14, 2023 by bichonblitz

[sugarbaker design]

11 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

I'm dying to know what happened to cause the abrupt ending of soulmates Flagg and Andrew?

What a shocker!  They have so much in common.

[Genlovestv]

20 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Altman certainly has settled down and become more likable. He fell madly in love with Heather and they make a great couple. He embraced marriage and having children. I think his parents set a good example of that and were excellent role models. 

I'm dying to know what happened to cause the abrupt ending of soulmates Flagg and Andrew? Anybody have any tea on that? It sure is hush hush.  I see on Flagg's IG he's hanging out a lot with Candy Spelling and some other rich blowhard old lady from Bev Hills. How depressing. Maybe Andrew was using Flagg to get on TV and dumped him after the season was finished? 

I would also love to know what happened.  They we're so in love etc....Weren't even together a whole year 🤣.  Bobby is thriving, enjoying life.  Love Bobby so much!!

[rhofmovalley]

Maybe Andrew decided he didn't want to coddle and babysit a grown ass man 16 years older than himself. Or that "fame" isn't worth having to fawn over Flagg 24/7.

Flagg needs a LOT of professional help if he's ever going to have a successful, long lasting relationship.

Edited March 14, 2023 by rhofmovalley

[ZettaK]

10 hours ago, rhofmovalley said:

Maybe Andrew decided he didn't want to coddle and babysit a grown ass man 16 years older than himself. Or that "fame" isn't worth having to fawn over Flagg 24/7.

Flagg needs a LOT of professional help if he's ever going to have a successful, long lasting relationship.

Yes, I don't think Andrew cared about fame so much. Or anything else. Flagg said their backgrounds are very similar, unlike those of his previous partners, meaning financial background, as well. 

[Fig Newton]

Yo , Bravo ------------

I thought the show was called "Million Dollar Listing:LA".

Why you gotta do the Vegas bullshit?

 

[Soapy Goddess]

19 hours ago, Fig Newton said:

Yo , Bravo ------------

I thought the show was called "Million Dollar Listing:LA".

Why you gotta do the Vegas bullshit?

 

For the same reason that they do million$ listing Orange County.

[RoseAllDay]

Catching the season finale from 2021, when Fredrick, James, and David were still on. Tense negotiations over sales, arguments over real estate. Little to no personal dramas and no Josh Flagg hijacking the show.

That’s what this franchise needs to get back to.

[Starlight925]

All of this drama is, I believe, manufactured to hide the fact that the actual L.A. market is in decline, and properties just aren't selling.

So they have Flagg & Tracy in a fight, they put Josh A. & Heather at odds over something stupid, they have Bobby co-listing with Josh F. on camera.

All a bunch of screen time with little house porn.

And then they move locations to Orange County & Vegas, where real estate is doing much better, which involves  filmed travel time, Altman throw pillows on a rented plane, day-leased "Lambo's", and uneaten Costco fruit & bagel trays.

They cancelled NY for this reason.  It's time to put a pin in L.A.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Starlight925

[Welshman in Ca]

32 minutes ago, Starlight925 said:

They cancelled NY for this reason.  It's time to put a pin in L.A.

Every time I see a new post has appeared here I fully expect it to be the announcement that the show has been cancelled.