Mama June: From Not To Hot: Seasons 1-6

[Mothra]

I wonder about Dr. Ish's real name.  Is he like Dr. Phil, and Ish is his first name?  Is his last name Kabibble?  That's silly.  His real name is Dr. Ish Major, and he's a genuine psychiatrist.  But it would have been funny if he'd been Dr. Ish Kabibble.

Jennifer's role keeps shifting from villain to super-villain, but her bad hip remains the same.  This time I noticed she's wearing a cross-the-body bag, indoors, which she never took off.  All I can think of is that she is using portable oxygen, which means her hip isn't all that's wonky.  Hope she got vaccinated.

[Koalagirl]

Pumpkin is pregnant.

https://people.com/parents/lauryn-pumpkin-shannon-pregnant-expecting-second-baby-with-husband-joshua-efird/

 

[sempervivum]

 

3 minutes ago, Koalagirl said:

Pumpkin is pregnant.

 

She seems to be an pretty good parent, although I think all of them dropping f-bombs in front of Ella constantly is disturbing.

I laughed at Jennifer describing Sugar Bear as having been known as a 'player'.  It's kind of odd that he only has the one child.

[Boston]

2 hours ago, Koalagirl said:

Pumpkin is pregnant.

https://people.com/parents/lauryn-pumpkin-shannon-pregnant-expecting-second-baby-with-husband-joshua-efird/

 

Thank God, all is right with the world.  (snarking)

[Koalagirl]

4 hours ago, sempervivum said:

She seems to be an pretty good parent, although I think all of them dropping f-bombs in front of Ella constantly is disturbing.

Ella seems like a happy child and she is quite talkative. I wonder if they have to edit out any f-bombs she comes out with. 
I think Josh has a good head on his shoulders and any of his crazy antics are probably producer manipulation. 
Jennifer and Sugar Bear can disappear as far as I’m concerned.

[Mothra]

Well, I have never believed one second of this show is for real, that it's all scripted (or "scripted" because I'm not sure everyone on this show could read a script), and I don't believe one second of the reunion of June with the two daughters via Dr. Major (that's his real last name; I don't approve of Dr. Drew or Dr. Phil either).  And I don't think the script-writers have much of an idea of what they're doing, even if we assume that everything, including the leadup to this meeting, was for real.

Imagining myself as any one of the participants, I don't believe that either the mother or either or the daughters would not have run to hug the other as soon as they saw the other one.  I don't care how hurt they're supposed to have been (and I do think they've been hurt for real), if they really hadn't seen each other for a year, they would have hugged first thing, without asking.

But what I did like was June's eye slits throughout.  Was that intentional to show how much contempt she had for Dr. Major, or is it a result of her blindness?  Either one, I don't understand how she can see at all.  And maybe she can't.

I agree that Pumpkin and Josh seem like good parents, and congratulations to the two of them.  But how hurtful to Alana for June to seem more eager to see Ella (who may or may not be aware of June's absence) than to spend time with Alana.

What a shitshow this is.  Geno better come up with something interesting to keep the plot such as it is going.

[Armchair Critic]

 I felt kind of bad for Alana since June was so affectionate with "Tink" (ugh that is so annoying) and not to Alana. June prefers the little ones because they are too young to see through her bullshit.

[Absolom]

Pumpkin is looking cuter and cuter as she lost weight.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Most of the show is total bullshit, then some real emotions show through.  I feel bad for Alana.  She has terrible parents.  June said way more than she meant to when she was asked about her low point and she said it was when she and Geno started fighting.  Not her kids.  Not losing Alana.  Nope.  Fighting with Geno, because June needs a man.  There are absolutely no signs that June is there for anything other than a paycheck.  She still sees herself as a victim and does not in any real way acknowledge that she harmed her family.  Then again, what do I expect from a woman who went back to the man who sexually assaulted her daughter? 

Ugh. I too hate when she calls Ella Tink.  The child has a name.  June's BS about giving everyone shitty nicknames is too damn much.  

 

[LEILANI2]

June must have only been interested in Alana when Alana was younger and winning pageants as it was an extension of herself.

She's a narcissist/sociopath interested in her own self interest and lacks empathy.  She twisted it so that she's a victim and the girls were the ones who disappointed her. The fact that Dr. Ish just let that slide and didn't just tell the girls to write her off as she will not change but then maybe they all know it and they need her for the pay check as the show is called - MAMA JUNE.

Not sure how Toto her sister isn't as twisted if they grew up in the same family.

[Mothra]

I need to correct myself.  I said I didn't believe any of this show is real, but that's not entirely true.  I do believe that June and Geno got in deep with drug abuse.  I think that part is entirely, and sadly, true.

[Armchair Critic]

21 hours ago, Absolom said:

Pumpkin is looking cuter and cuter as she lost weight.

Pumpkin to me is average at best, but I am happy for her losing weight and it does make her look better. I've always thought Anna the oldest daughter was prettiest, maybe not being raised by June or having a different father helped because she never had a weight problem.

[Absolom]

Ratings:  663,000 viewers and a .13 rating down from .16 last week.  28th cable show of the day.

[newyawk]

Why don't you mention the kids that *are* yours, Geno, and try to fix *those* relationships, instead of trying to glom onto the kids attached to the show?

Edited April 13, 2021 by newyawk

[silverspoons]

3 hours ago, newyawk said:

Why don't you mention the kids that *are* yours, Geno, and try to fix *those* relationships, instead of trying to glom onto the kids attached to the show?

Glad I am not the only one who yelled at the TV, what about your 4 kids Geno. I thought his kids lived in FL? so it would be easier for him to repair. Plus how long did he really live with and know June's kids? 1 year? 

As for scripting, I think Josh is probably the most scripted, but it is some comic releif, so I let it go. I saw an intervew with Pumpkin and she did not seem like she wanted to film forever. I think the extra money is keeping her hanging on. It did not seem like much but probably helped them get stable and into the home. What made me sad was she said she really wanted a job at the outlet mall. She got turned down because of being on the show. She wanted to go from walmart to the outlet mall and could not. She is not doing only fans , she is trying for a normal life and can't even obtain a small desire like a job a a clothing store in the outlet mall. 

[DNR]

Hopefully Alana will do a next season where she gets healthy and loses the weight.  I think there’s a pretty girl under there

june doesn’t get that she did irreparable harm to her family - it’s ALL about June 

i HATE the way they all talk baby talk to Ella ! 🤬 speak normally to her !!!!!!

[Carolina Girl]

I'm thinking this show is on it's last legs.  Judging from the ratings, there's no value in the show, June, Geno, Sugar Bear, Jennifer are all abominable, awful people.  Alana, while I feel very sorry for her vis-a-vis her mother, gets on my last nerve.  She is NOT the "attraction" she thinks she is - to me, she's just another mouthy teenager who knows nothing and thinks she knows everything.  She was cute when she was small.   That behavior translates to obnoxious when you hit high school.

Wonder what's going to happen to everyone when the spotlight goes out.  The only ones with real jobs are Josh and (as far as I can tell) the members of Dodo's branch of the family.  I know that it's probably 90% scripted, but I often think Jennifer and Sugar Bear saw themselves as getting some sort of spin-off.  You two DO realize America (1) pretty much loathes you and (2) has no burning desire to see you two try to make yourselves into some sort of cornpone "Ozzie and Harriet."  

[Armchair Critic]

 

1 hour ago, Carolina Girl said:

Alana, while I feel very sorry for her vis-a-vis her mother, gets on my last nerve.  She is NOT the "attraction" she thinks she is - to me, she's just another mouthy teenager who knows nothing and thinks she knows everything.  She was cute when she was small.   That behavior translates to obnoxious when you hit high school.

Wonder what's going to happen to everyone when the spotlight goes out.  The only ones with real jobs are Josh and (as far as I can tell) the members of Dodo's branch of the family. 

I don't find Alana charming since I have my own teen to deal with. 😂 My daughter won't watch the show with me any more, she used to like them when they were on TLC. She is embarrassed for Alana and cringes at the way she acts since she is around Alana's age.

Pumpkin was working at Walmart, I hope she got her GED but with two kids and qualified to work low paying jobs I hope she doesn't try to make Ella the next Honey Boo Boo. I was hoping Jessica could be financially independent since she was going to college. I also hope Anna can make a life separate from June since June was awful to her.

I don't have any sympathy for Sugar Bear and Jennifer not being able to ride the gravy train further. I had read before that Sugar Bear was messing around with women and men, I hate to see the lowlifes he attracts if Jennifer is the best he can do.

[kicotan]

On 4/11/2021 at 11:35 AM, Mothra said:

I need to correct myself.  I said I didn't believe any of this show is real, but that's not entirely true.  I do believe that June and Geno got in deep with drug abuse.  I think that part is entirely, and sadly, true.

I don’t doubt for a minute they got deep...but when June said she was doing 2-3 ounces a DAY?  No way.  I think June and Geno both being  assholes is also completely real, (with or without the drug abuse).
 

I find the script poorly written, poorly acted and the characters are easy to dislike if not downright hate.  It’s definitely got the hate-watch factor going for it, though.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

I agree that Sugar Bear and Jennifer were hoping for a spinoff.  Problem is they are both vile people, terrible actors and in no way interesting.  Jennifer tried the competing with June, weight loss, and trying to get custody of Alana storylines.  Now they're shooting for Mike has diabetes and could die from how he's eating and Jennifer doesn't want Mike to see Alana story lines.  Problem is I don't care about SB's health at all.  Choosing to eat particularly terrible food while filming showed they'll do anything to stay on TV.  He would chug a bottle of pancake syrup for more screen time.  Also, he will or won't see Alana as usual.  He's not exactly father of the year material.  So again, I don't care. 

Pumpkin and Josh seem like decent folks who are appreciating the extra income from the show.  I think they'll be okay when the show ends too.  The others all seem to be focused on doing whatever is needed to stay on TV regardless of the impact to the family members. 

[LEILANI2]

 

This show is on it's last leg. Did anyone even watch it tonight?

Alana really needs to lose weight. She is 10x the size of Sugar Bear in the salon. 

Since Pumpkin  has lost weight she should be able to encourage Alana to eat smaller portions.

The camera people love to shoot Doe Doe, Pumpkin, Mama June, and Alana where their chins blend into their neck and they all look like they're related to Ed from 90 Days.

Edited April 17, 2021 by LEILANI2

[Armchair Critic]

4 hours ago, LEILANI2 said:

This show is on it's last leg. Did anyone even watch it tonight?

I got a phone call and was half watching it. I figured they would forgive June to try to keep the gravy train rolling (yes I am a broken record). I too cannot see how they can get another season out of this. But just when I think it's over they find a way to milk another drop from this tired teat so I guess never say never.

Ella is such a little HBB, I am glad to see Alana isn't jealous of her especially since June made more of a fuss over Ella than her.

Please WE tv don't show Alana in a bathing suit, nothing good can come from that.

Jennifer is the worst villian, I have gotten to the point I can't even "hate" her. Between her sharing a big drink with Janice and then chasing Sugar Bear to the nail salon because she thinks he's cheating with June, it is just ridiculous.

 

[LEILANI2]

6 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

 

Jennifer is the worst villian, I have gotten to the point I can't even "hate" her. Between her sharing a big drink with Janice and then chasing Sugar Bear to the nail salon because she thinks he's cheating with June, it is just ridiculous.

 

Did Jennifer go to a barber shop for her haircut?  Does the ex porn star who is now all their manager advise her to do this because if so, she hates her.

It's laughable Jennifer assumes it's June that  Sugar Bear is cheating with when it's well document that he  has admitted to cheating in the past on June with both men and women

[sempervivum]

8 hours ago, Armchair Critic said:

Please WE tv don't show Alana in a bathing suit, nothing good can come from that

I might be more horrified by Geno in trunks, if that happens.

12 hours ago, LEILANI2 said:

Since Pumpkin  has lost weight she should be able to encourage Alana to eat smaller portions.

I was glad to hear Pumpkin say that one of her reasons for losing was to be a good example for Alana. I thought it was interesting that Alana was excited by the idea of getting a cute swim suit- is it possible she doesn't realize how bad she looks even when she's completely covered up? All she ever had going for her was her pretty little face, which has almost disappeared in a mask of fat.

I can appreciate Sugar Bear's wanting to warn Alana about her heritage of diabetes, but it apparently didn't change his own behavior when he saw his mother die of it. 

[itsadryheat]

Man this how is baaad. June's smirking while saying her "lines", Sugar Bears wife is THE worst actor ever, Alana's tough to watch. The overweight thing is also tough to watch.  Geno looks like he's going to pop like a balloon. Only entertaining scene was Sugar Bear getting testy with the film crew and walking away in the pedi flip flops.

So dull, that I started thinking about his brother Poodle who used to be on the show. I kind of remember him being fun to watch but its been so long, any thoughts I had were fuzzy.

So what happened to Uncle Poodle?

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2015/01/mama-june-banishes-uncle-poodle-forbids-honey-boo-boo-from-reunion/

Edited April 17, 2021 by itsadryheat

[Sile]

I think Pumpkin looks very attractive in her THs.  Since those are filmed after, it looks like she's continuing to lose weight.  She has pretty eyes and to me looks like a cross between Katy Perry and Zooey Deschanel.

Property in Georgia must be dirt cheap if that house they show from the outside is really Josh and Pumpkin's.  It looks professionally landscaped and if it was really that big I don't think Jessica would have to be camping out on the couch.

 

Edited April 17, 2021 by Sile

[teapot]

At least the Sugar Bear Jennifer stuff is soooo fake!  Annoying!!!
 

Ella sounds more intelligent than anyone speaking to her!  Enough with the baby talk!
 

why am I watching this crap???

[Armchair Critic]

2 hours ago, teapot said:

why am I watching this crap???

That's why when my friend called I didn't want to tell her she interrupted me watching this show, I am embarrassed to admit I watch it. 😂

[CrazyInAlabama]

22 minutes ago, Armchair Critic said:

That's why when my friend called I didn't want to tell her she interrupted me watching this show, I am embarrassed to admit I watch it. 😂

Have an excuse ready.   While you're watching this show, or similarly entertaining train wrecks, have another name that you say you're watching, that sounds more snooty, like CSpan.   

[Mothra]

13 hours ago, sempervivum said:

I might be more horrified by Geno in trunks, if that happens.

I was glad to hear Pumpkin say that one of her reasons for losing was to be a good example for Alana. I thought it was interesting that Alana was excited by the idea of getting a cute swim suit- is it possible she doesn't realize how bad she looks even when she's completely covered up? All she ever had going for her was her pretty little face, which has almost disappeared in a mask of fat.

I can appreciate Sugar Bear's wanting to warn Alana about her heritage of diabetes, but it apparently didn't change his own behavior when he saw his mother die of it. 

I don't think Alana has any idea of how fat she is, despite seeing herself on tv.  She is always carefully made up--the false eyelashes were a hoot, though, coming loose at one corner--and maybe it's the positive attention she got in child beauty pageants even though she was so chubby that makes her think she is adorable still.

I desperately want to know what the kids at her school think of her.  She has somehow gained a reputation for being intelligent, but I see no evidence of that.  She has an unnatural maturity, I guess, if you can call acting and talking like the adults she's around mature.  I believe she was home-schooled (by June?) for a while, and is now in a public school; I wish we could get a gander of her report card.  I can't imagine it's anything to brag about because if it were, she'd be bragging about it.

The business with the new swim suit made my heart sink.  I wonder where she's buying her clothes.  If it's at one of those fat-girl stores (Torrid?) how can she not know that she's not of normal size?

I wish the final season would show us Alana losing weight in some healthy manner, a weight loss she could sustain, and somehow cutting ties with June.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Mothra said:

She has somehow gained a reputation for being intelligent

I'm not watching the show, so I'm not up to speed, but ... is this show now set in an alternate dimension? 

[Carolina Girl]

9 hours ago, Mothra said:

I wonder where she's buying her clothes. 

Omar the tent maker.

[merylinkid]

10 hours ago, Mothra said:

and somehow cutting ties with June.

Ain't no one cutting ties with June as long as her name is in the title.   If they called the show something else like "Honey Boo Boo no more" then maybe.   Or if they all finally realize filming their lives is not the best idea.   But given the area they live in, where moving from Walmart to the Outlet Mall for a job is considering moving up*, the checks from the show are too much to turn down.   

 

Not insulting retail workers, just pointing out the job while HARD does not pay well.

[Dreamawake719]

Did anyone else notice that Josh's hair grew an inch or so on the ride home from the nail salon? I suppose any sort of continuity aside from being in the same clothes is expecting way too much from this show.

[Armchair Critic]

13 hours ago, Mothra said:

I wish the final season would show us Alana losing weight in some healthy manner, a weight loss she could sustain, and somehow cutting ties with June.

She was raised on "Go Go Juice" and junk food, actually being raised by wolves would have been an improvement over June. ;) I have always had a tendency to be chubby but I had a mom who prepared healthy food and made sure to have fun activities that got me moving. Now that I am older I appreciate it because my weight was normal when I was in school and left to my own devices I would have been bigger. I know because when I moved out and could eat whatever I wanted I gained weight.

[Madding crowd]

I’m sure Alana knows she is fat. Fat people can still look forward to buying and wearing cute clothes. If her schoolmates are horrified by her appearance, that’s on them not her. It is healthy for her to eat right and get exercise but not all people are going to be thin and it is a good thing if she has healthy self esteem considering what she has been through.

[DNR]

I’d watch a show with Pumpkin & Alana getting healthy & exercising the weight off . 
considering mama June is their mother, i think both girls are attractive ( Anna too) 

only poor Chubbs ( Jessica) looks the most like June . I always kinda liked Chubbs 

Edited April 18, 2021 by DNR
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[Absolom]

Ratings:  680,000 viewers and a .18 rating.  Tenth cable show of the day.

[4N6MAL]

On 4/18/2021 at 1:19 PM, Dreamawake719 said:

Did anyone else notice that Josh's hair grew an inch or so on the ride home from the nail salon? I suppose any sort of continuity aside from being in the same clothes is expecting way too much from this show.

I always watch the nails! They can't keep up with Alana and Pumpkin's nails. In the scene you are describing Alana had nails on at the house but not at the nail salon!

[Leilani]

Is it creepy Geno taking Alana out to dinner with just the two of them?  It seems odd to me.  All my life my family did things as a family, we didn't leave my mom home while we went out unless she was sick or something.

Edited April 24, 2021 by Leilani

[Armchair Critic]

The amount of food Alana eats 😳 

[goofygirl]

Well, I watched the show tonite and now I want that hour back!  June is completely in denial.  She really needs to catch a clue!

[Mothra]

Pumpkin's tits.  That is all.

[Mothra]

On 4/17/2021 at 5:26 PM, Sile said:

I think Pumpkin looks very attractive in her THs.  Since those are filmed after, it looks like she's continuing to lose weight.  She has pretty eyes and to me looks like a cross between Katy Perry and Zooey Deschanel.

Property in Georgia must be dirt cheap if that house they show from the outside is really Josh and Pumpkin's.  It looks professionally landscaped and if it was really that big I don't think Jessica would have to be camping out on the couch.

 

I think Pumpkin looks much prettier with the WL, too.  In her TH, though, I am compelled by Satan to fixate on that tongue piercing with its little trail of saliva every time she opens her mouth.  I would get that thing out of there.

Their house has an interior staircase, and apparently a bedroom on the first floor.  It's ridiculous to expect us to believe that the couch is the only place available for Jessica to sleep, even if putting her into a bedroom meant a sleeping bag on Alana's floor.

Watching this show is like abandoning all human senses for an hour or whatever, submerging into a barrel of cider that's turned a little too much toward vinegar, regaining consciousness the next day and wondering what the hell happened.

[Kathy]

I wonder how many times June said the words clean and sober.  Like about a million??

[merylinkid]

13 hours ago, Leilani said:

Is it creepy Geno taking Alana out to dinner with just the two of them?  It seems odd to me.  All my life my family did things as a family, we didn't leave my mom home while we went out unless she was sick or something.

It's not creepy for that reason.   But considering June's history with men and their treatment of her daughters, I would NEVER let Alana be alone with any of June's "boyfriends."

[Leilani]

39 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

It's not creepy for that reason.   But considering June's history with men and their treatment of her daughters, I would NEVER let Alana be alone with any of June's "boyfriends."

Yes that's what I meant to imply. 

June on this episode acts like she's still on drugs to me with the squinty eyes and slurring and why are those two  trying so hard to get Honey Boo Boo to live with them.  Seems like there's ulterior motives like state money or TV money more then just their love for a child they easily abadoned and sunk a million in drugs on during their binge just a year ago.

Edited April 24, 2021 by Leilani

[PrincessPurrsALot]

16 hours ago, Leilani said:

Is it creepy Geno taking Alana out to dinner with just the two of them?  It seems odd to me.  All my life my family did things as a family, we didn't leave my mom home while we went out unless she was sick or something.

Agreeing with @merylinkid, having a father and daughter dinner would be a nice thing if it wasn't creepy boyfriend (a.k.a. sleazy, untrustworthy, as sober as needed to be to get back TV) Geno.  Mama June should never allow any of the men in her life to be alone with her children.  Of course, there was a camera crew with them, so it was safer.  Still I don't trust the crew to stop creepy things from happening.  

2 hours ago, Leilani said:

Yes that's what I meant to imply. 

June on this episode acts like she's still on drugs to me with the squinty eyes and slurring and why are those two  trying so hard to get Honey Boo Boo to live with them.  Seems like there's ulterior motives like state money or TV money more then just their love for a child they easily abadoned and sunk a million in drugs on during their binge just a year ago.

While the show is named after Mama June, Alana is more of the reason people cared in the first place.  If they have Alana, they have the show.  Without her, the focus stays on Alana, Pumpkin, Josh . . . the folks in Georgia.  One good thing with the shift in focus is much less Nazi Mike.  I don't think June is actually capable of loving her children.  She has sacrificed them too many times for men, money, drugs or all of the above.  Tell her she can have custody of Alana but has to stay away from Geno, it will be buh-bye Alana.  

[Calibabydolly]

OMG on the beach scenes of Pumpkin! I was so waiting for a "nip slip" to happen. She even had on the cover up (production driven?) but it did no good at covering up what needed to be covered! If you look at her in the TH couch scenes, her boobs are not that big. I think she bought an extreme push up swim suit top as to draw attention away from her other fatty bulges!? Alana didn't look nearly as bad as I had envisioned, though all that sagging belly fat at age 15 is a huge health risk for her. Especially with diabetes in her family. I wonder if they got her tested yet? SBs hunch she may already have it is probably right. Sad.

[Mothra]

On 4/17/2021 at 5:26 PM, Sile said:

Property in Georgia must be dirt cheap if that house they show from the outside is really Josh and Pumpkin's.  It looks professionally landscaped and if it was really that big I don't think Jessica would have to be camping out on the couch.

But then you go into that kitchen, with missing cabinet doors...  It's a fixer-upper, at the very least, so it probably was inexpensive (as houses go)--but a fixer-upper is exactly what imo Josh and Pumpkin ought to be going for in their first house.

 

4 hours ago, Leilani said:

June on this episode acts like she's still on drugs to me with the squinty eyes and slurring and why are those two  trying so hard to get Honey Boo Boo to live with them.  Seems like there's ulterior motives like state money or TV money more then just their love for a child they easily abadoned and sunk a million in drugs on during their binge just a year ago.

I didn't think she was using (yet) but I agree that something is going on.  I wonder if the remarks about how fat she is will help her drift back into drug use.

The original concept was From Not to Hot, and we've done that, and back 'round again, so June has to scramble to try to keep her story the focus of the show.  I think that's the only reason June is at all interested in Alana--I'm not sure she even likes Alana very much--or pretends to be interested.

Alana has some cute clothes, and good for her, but they're all about a size too small.  She might have a pretty face if all the features weren't sunk in pudge, and she should lay off the fake eyelashes until she drops some weight from her face.

And I'm convinced that Geno's cysts/lipomas have been removed.  And skillfully, since there's no scar to be seen.