Carlton Gebbia: She'll Put a Spell on You

[ScoobieDoobs]

And remember when Kyle was going thru Carlton's house & she was making comments on all the crosses & the confessional? She was giggling & being jokey. Was she sorta making fun of Carlton or her religion? Was she mocking her? Honestly, I didn't get that impression. I thought she was just acting sorta silly. Maybe a bit mean girl catty & thoughtless, but sheesh, nothing so horrible that she wouldn't have apologized sincerely for later on.

And then the stuff with the star that Carlton got so freakin' nuts about? Well, I woulda made the same mistake Kyle did. So I guess Carlton would yell & scream at me too & give me one of her frosty Angelina Jolie death stares, eh? Fun? Nah, not so much. Man, I so fuckin' hated her death stares. So damn tiresome.

Edited December 15, 2014 by ScoobieDoobs

[ScoobieDoobs]

I'll add more as I remember them...she had a few "reasons" to hate Kyle.

 

 

What was it Kyle said, when she first met Carlton -- something bout nips, which Kyle said she was just repeating what Lisa had just said?  And in response, Carlton acted all shocked, gave her one of those Angelina death stares, along with her really icky, "REALLY?"  OK, so we were supposed to believe she was shocked to hear someone utter the word, "nips", but she was just A-OK with naked people parties & flirting with her idiot nanny -- to the point where it seemed like she wanted to rip the nanny's clothes off and go down on her right in front of those Bravo cams?  Oh yeah, dat made a ton of sense.

[Almost 3000]

Ha! Maybe my favorite part of this thread is "Angelina Death Stare", reeally.

[vrocotamy]

IMO Carlton served her purpose. She was grossly unlikeable and relentlessly and unfairly attacked Kyle swaying many to defend her. She played her part, I think she's done.

 

 

Great insight. Carlton's one-sided, over-the-top attacks on Kyle served to make her more likeable to the many who still held grudges against Kyle - primarily because of Game Night and The Limo Incident, but also because she had talked about fan favorite Lisa "behind her back" and maintained friendships with the hugely unpopular Faye and Taylor. Conversely, the other "one and done" of last season - Joyce - provoked relentless, unfair, and biased attacks from Brandi, helping knock Brandi off her fan favorite pedestal and showing her true nature. Coming from the outside, she called out Brandi's MO in a way the others couldn't. But neither were really good for this format. Carlton was, as you say, grossly unlikeable and didn't connect with the audience, and Joyce was too normal and functional (albeit annoying and pageant-y at times) for The Real Housewives. If you're going to be a kind person in this franchise, you need to have some element of your life that's more, um, unusual to guarantee your longevity (see Kandi's mother Joyce on RHOA.)

 

Kyle never did anything to Carlton, queen of the hypocrites, who bemoans the killing of a bee as inhuman and then squashes a spider. I think Kyle can be a bit excessively inquisitive with people who make her uncomfortable (Carlton and Camille, most notably), and it's taken as nosy or judgmental. Coming from Kyle - who was raised Catholic and converted to Judaism - it's not an insult to ask if Carlton "was raised Catholic" because her home was covered in crosses or if her tattoo portrayed a Magen David. If anything, she was looking for points of connection with Carlton. That said, producers did a good job in placing Carlton against Kyle because they have such conflicting personalities. In particular, Kyle is uncomfortable with sensational or raunchy references to sex...and Carlton's sexual prurience was so plastic and blunt and contrived for shock value that it wasn't actually sexy. The tone of her party reminded me of photos I've seen of porn shoots in the middle of the day in rented houses on the edge of the San Fernando Valley.

[ScoobieDoobs]

And what about all of her faux lesbian references?  She did that a shit-ton.  What the heck was dat all about?  All the flirting with her giggling idiot nanny and saying outright she only hired her cuz she thought she was hot.  It was all so wrong & so ridiculously stupid on so many levels, it makes my head spin.  I assumed she did this cuz of her porn background, where anything lesbian is encouraged.  But her doing this here, making all these lesbian-lust references seemed so forced & fake & out-of-place.  It just fell really flat.  Er, I thought she's a happily married woman & a PTA mom.  Where's that stuff fit in?

[racked]

In particular, Kyle is uncomfortable with sensational or raunchy references to sex...and Carlton's sexual prurience was so plastic and blunt and contrived for shock value that it wasn't actually sexy. The tone of her party reminded me of photos I've seen of porn shoots in the middle of the day in rented houses on the edge of the San Fernando Valley.

That's the best description of Carlton's party I've seen! And her whole "sexy" persona too. It all felt plastic and cheap in a very un-fun way.

[Granimal]

Carlton's faux-lesbianism grates on many levels.I don't see an ounce of sincerity in it. It's as if Carlton thought she was being filmed for an MTV reality show the entire time. There is something extremely messed up about a straight woman using homosexuality to get attention from straight men.   It's disturbing to see a grown woman with daughters carrying on this way -particularly with the young nanny. Now if Carlton were legitimatley bisexual and this was explored on the show that would be one thing. However we were treated to this porn-y "hee hee I kissed a girl" crap that was popular at one time.

 

And if Carlton's husband had treated the nanny the same way I would be just as hard on him.

Edited December 18, 2014 by Granimal

[oakville]

We are watching Season 4 now & can't believe Carlton's rude behavior on the show. Her attacks on Kyle were vicious especially at Ken & Mauricio's birthday party. Carlton said she dreamed that Kyle was talking about her & then got mad at her. She threatened to cast a spell on Joyce & then got upset at Joyce after she told her that her husband got sick that evening. I am surprised her nanny didn't sue her for sexual harassment. I am glad she isn't on the current season.

[quinn]

IT’S SUPER BOWL SUNDAY, and I am in the large gothic home of Real Housewife Carlton Gebbia in Beverly Hills, the setting for Rihanna’s Vogue shoot.

Source: http://www.vogue.com/13413279/rihanna-fenty-puma-anti-april-2016-cover/

[lunastartron]

^^^ So peculiar. I haven't yet picked up the April issue from my newsstand of choice but the accompanying portfolio included online is comprised primarily of close-ups - no background tableaux is really incorporated into any of the shots. Considering the very specific aesthetic of Gebbia Manor, it's odd that the location didn't feature thematically in the spread. I'm one of the few viewers who appreciated Carlton and perhaps the only follower of the show who liked both her and Joyce. Her detractors weren't incorrect in their assessment of her personality - she was thirsty, try-hard, often cringe-worthy, and managed to embarrass herself all too frequently. But I still feel like she had potential on paper. Personally, I enjoyed the baroque flourishes of her house and her husband was fine in a gauche kind of way. I would have enjoyed seeing more of their marital dynamic, her Bengal kitty cats, and scenes about the horror film project she was supposedly penning. Considering the difficulty this particular city has had with casting, I wouldn't mind seeing her return in a non-marquee capacity.

[kokapetl]

Carlton was gross

And desiccated like a mummy

[PhilMarlowe2]

Separating from her husband after 18 years of marriage.

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

Separating from her husband after 18 years of marriage.

WOW! Maybe this is why she got so drunk she passed out and had to be taken to the ER and admitted for alcohol poisoning.

[tenativelyyours]

The surprise here for me is that they lasted 18 years. 

[zoeysmom]

11 hours ago, WireWrap said:

WOW! Maybe this is why she got so drunk she passed out and had to be taken to the ER and admitted for alcohol poisoning.

I don't understand they are separating. . . they still live together. What are they separating?  They plan on raising the children under the same roof.  Sounds like the foundation for an open marriage. Carlton is only 42 years old?  She has not aged well.    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/real-housewives-alum-carlton-gebbia-separated-from-husband-w436392

I am thinking Carlton might have a drinking problem.

[WireWrap]

6 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I don't understand they are separating. . . they still live together. What are they separating?  They plan on raising the children under the same roof.  Sounds like the foundation for an open marriage. Carlton is only 42 years old?  She has not aged well.    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/real-housewives-alum-carlton-gebbia-separated-from-husband-w436392

I am thinking Carlton might have a drinking problem.

She has gotten this drunk before, during the time she was the show and remember how drunk she got before going to Kimberly's graduation party with Brandi. I suspect you are right, she has a problem.

[AKA...CJ86]

As far as we know, isn't this like the second time this has happened--not including HWs televised escapades?  I mean, after her season wrapped up didn't this happen?  

 

I think I'm the one Carlton fan...(and Aviva...and Cindy...who are you to judge me)...here, so I'm hoping my walking SlimJim can pull through.

[PhilMarlowe2]

Always remember, that she would NEVER talk about the size of her husband's manhood (even though she COULD because he is hung like a horse...)

[Baltimore Betty]

How many Real Housewives does divorces does this make?

[ginger90]

45 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

How many Real Housewives does divorces does this make?

There aren't many housewives on any of the "real" housewives shows.

[tenativelyyours]

42?! Good grief.  She looks as old or older than pretty much the entire cast before during and after her stint.  She has to have some rapid aging virus.  I mean she looks like that head hunter in the movie beetlejuice gave her a good does of the shrinking powder.  No wonder she is so bitter, nasty and foul.   If I walked around having tons of plastic surgery and had to wear those two concrete traffic dividers she still overpaid for despite the fact that as pretend breasts, it looks like she went to a drive up surgery place?  And had to pretend I was sexy and intensely deep and profound while having a brain pan slightly larger than Theresa Giudice?  I would be pissed as fuck too.

 

Brandi and Carlton chat on the reunion couch:

[Giselle]

2 hours ago, tenativelyyours said:

42?! Good grief.  She looks as old or older than pretty much the entire cast before during and after her stint.  She has to have some rapid aging virus.  I mean she looks like that head hunter in the movie beetlejuice gave her a good does of the shrinking powder.  No wonder she is so bitter, nasty and foul.   If I walked around having tons of plastic surgery and had to wear those two concrete traffic dividers she still overpaid for despite the fact that as pretend breasts, it looks like she went to a drive up surgery place?  And had to pretend I was sexy and intensely deep and profound while having a brain pan slightly larger than Theresa Giudice?  I would be pissed as fuck too.

 

Brandi and Carlton chat on the reunion couch:

Pure evil. Tee Hee! >;->

God I love you!

[Darva6]

14 hours ago, tenativelyyours said:

42?! Good grief.  She looks as old or older than pretty much the entire cast before during and after her stint.  She has to have some rapid aging virus.  I mean she looks like that head hunter in the movie beetlejuice gave her a good does of the shrinking powder.  No wonder she is so bitter, nasty and foul.   If I walked around having tons of plastic surgery and had to wear those two concrete traffic dividers she still overpaid for despite the fact that as pretend breasts, it looks like she went to a drive up surgery place?  And had to pretend I was sexy and intensely deep and profound while having a brain pan slightly larger than Theresa Giudice?  I would be pissed as fuck too.

 

Brandi and Carlton chat on the reunion couch:

Brilliant!!!!

[Duke2801]

On ‎8‎/‎29‎/‎2016 at 7:01 PM, tenativelyyours said:

42?! Good grief.  She looks as old or older than pretty much the entire cast before during and after her stint.  She has to have some rapid aging virus.  I mean she looks like that head hunter in the movie beetlejuice gave her a good does of the shrinking powder.  No wonder she is so bitter, nasty and foul.   If I walked around having tons of plastic surgery and had to wear those two concrete traffic dividers she still overpaid for despite the fact that as pretend breasts, it looks like she went to a drive up surgery place?  And had to pretend I was sexy and intensely deep and profound while having a brain pan slightly larger than Theresa Giudice?  I would be pissed as fuck too.

 

Brandi and Carlton chat on the reunion couch:

OMFG!

I *died* when you first said she looks like the headhunter in Beetlejuice  ... and then was miraculously brought back to life with that gif. Too. effin. hilarious. 

And accurate.  Carlton looks closer to Lisa VP's age than 42.  I guess being a mean, nasty asshole ages ya. 

[lunastartron]

Looks like she's had a rough year. I guess she and David are selling the house (or he got it in the division of assets) post-split. Midnight (the cat who received acupuncture treatments) is apparently ailing as well. 

I kind of wonder what she'd be like as a cast member sans Brandi.

Edited December 23, 2017 by lunastartron

[MatildaMoody]

There was really only one thing that Kyle did that could have caused some friction between her and Carlton, and it was so hilarious that I instantly forgave Kyle for it. It was when Kyle invited her over to her house with a few other people. Carlton was telling this boring story that had to do with an animal (her cat maybe?), and Kyle just cut her off to ask if anyone wanted wine. It happened so fast and the look on Carlton's face still has me giggling as I think about it. I mean, I guess it was a faux pas on the part of the hostess, but it was really one of the most organically funny moments I remember from the entire season. I think Carlton came in prepared to hate Kyle, so that moment gave her a bit of momentum, but it was really the only thing that Kyle ever did that could have been construed as rude to her. Carlton chose to take offense at the bee thing and from there it was war. Only Kyle didn't know it. 

[Primal Slayer]

I actually liked Carlton lol. And it says something when even Andy admitted to giving her a bad edit.

[zoeysmom]

On 12/23/2017 at 0:22 PM, lunastartron said:

Looks like she's had a rough year. I guess she and David are selling the house (or he got it in the division of assets) post-split. Midnight (the cat who received acupuncture treatments) is apparently ailing as well. 

I kind of wonder what she'd be like as a cast member sans Brandi.

Sounds like Carlton the money manager, signed a pre-nup.  They were such a super creepy couple.  How did they ever fall out of love?

7 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

I actually liked Carlton lol. And it says something when even Andy admitted to giving her a bad edit.

How does anyone give Carlton a good edit?  She is so angry all the time.   

[kokapetl]

Wow! A rare, pristine example of the pre Christian Celtic Moorish McMansion!

So long, sex dungeon. 

[Lady of nod]

19 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

I actually liked Carlton lol. And it says something when even Andy admitted to giving her a bad edit.

I did too. And being Wiccan myself, I thought it was offensive that others in the cast (looking at you Kyle) bashed and made jokes about her religion. Would Andy tolerate bashing the Jeweish religion? I think not. I'm not saying she was the best Wiccan spokesperson - not at all. But a good person doesn't make rude remarks about other's beliefs.

[lunastartron]

Well, clearly Andy and Evolution missed a prime opportunity for some salacious footage these past couple of years. Her housekeeper is suing her for physical assault/abuse and claims that Carlton is a drunk who threw herself off of the second story of that mansion. 

http://m.tmz.com/#2017/12/27/real-housewives-carlton-gebbia-sued-attack-housekeeper-suicide/

 

On December 26, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Lady of nod said:

I did too. And being Wiccan myself, I thought it was offensive that others in the cast (looking at you Kyle) bashed and made jokes about her religion. Would Andy tolerate bashing the Jeweish religion? I think not. I'm not saying she was the best Wiccan spokesperson - not at all. But a good person doesn't make rude remarks about other's beliefs.

This is why I disagree with the upthread premise that Kyle only committed minor/negligible offenses in her feud with Carlton. She was absolutely heinous with the "witchy poo" insults and suggestions that Carlton make chairs float, etc. - not just vis-a-vis the remarks alone but also her unadulterated glee at her own casual bigotry. She was like Laura Lizzie tittering at her own clever racism against the black witch in The Craft. Although I found Carlton interesting, I also thought she was an unreasonable asshole toward Kyle at times. But none of her behavior warranted the ridicule aimed specifically at her religion. 

[zoeysmom]

17 minutes ago, lunastartron said:

Well, clearly Andy and Evolution missed a prime opportunity for some salacious footage these past couple of years. Her housekeeper is suing her for physical assault/abuse and claims that Carlton is a drunk who threw herself off of the second story of that mansion. 

http://m.tmz.com/#2017/12/27/real-housewives-carlton-gebbia-sued-attack-housekeeper-suicide/

 

 

Sadly, Evolution stays away from airing lawsuits.  Carlton had some major issues and always thought her a bit of a bully but who knew substance abuse was one of them.  I remember feeling bad for the cat who took a spill off the second floor. . . Carlton not so much.  I hope the kids are okay.  I wonder if David will move to be primary custodian of the children.  Maybe someone should give Eden Carlton's number-those two would be perfect together.

[gundysgirl]

45 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Sadly, Evolution stays away from airing lawsuits.  Carlton had some major issues and always thought her a bit of a bully but who knew substance abuse was one of them.  I remember feeling bad for the cat who took a spill off the second floor. . . Carlton not so much.  I hope the kids are okay.  I wonder if David will move to be primary custodian of the children.  Maybe someone should give Eden Carlton's number-those two would be perfect together.

I figured she had a problem of some sort when she showed up to do some pole dancing with Brandi completely shit-faced. And then proceeded to take her drunk ass over to that party at Kyle's house for Kim - a newly sober Kim - and ask for booze. Not a smart one that girl. 

[Lady of nod]

1 hour ago, lunastartron said:

Well, clearly Andy and Evolution missed a prime opportunity for some salacious footage these past couple of years. Her housekeeper is suing her for physical assault/abuse and claims that Carlton is a drunk who threw herself off of the second story of that mansion. 

http://m.tmz.com/#2017/12/27/real-housewives-carlton-gebbia-sued-attack-housekeeper-suicide/

 

This is why I disagree with the upthread premise that Kyle only committed minor/negligible offenses in her feud with Carlton. She was absolutely heinous with the "witchy poo" insults and suggestions that Carlton make chairs float, etc. - not just vis-a-vis the remarks alone but also her unadulterated glee at her own casual bigotry. She was like Laura Lizzie tittering at her own clever racism against the black witch in The Craft. Although I found Carlton interesting, I also thought she was an unreasonable asshole toward Kyle at times. But none of her behavior warranted the ridicule aimed specifically at her religion. 

Absolutely! Imagine Carlton referring to Kyle as Jewey poo. 

[kokapetl]

2 hours ago, lunastartron said:

Well, clearly Andy and Evolution missed a prime opportunity for some salacious footage these past couple of years. Her housekeeper is suing her for physical assault/abuse and claims that Carlton is a drunk who threw herself off of the second story of that mansion. 

http://m.tmz.com/#2017/12/27/real-housewives-carlton-gebbia-sued-attack-housekeeper-suicide/

 

This is why I disagree with the upthread premise that Kyle only committed minor/negligible offenses in her feud with Carlton. She was absolutely heinous with the "witchy poo" insults and suggestions that Carlton make chairs float, etc. - not just vis-a-vis the remarks alone but also her unadulterated glee at her own casual bigotry. She was like Laura Lizzie tittering at her own clever racism against the black witch in The Craft. Although I found Carlton interesting, I also thought she was an unreasonable asshole toward Kyle at times. But none of her behavior warranted the ridicule aimed specifically at her religion. 

Hmmm. Elizy?

[lunastartron]

Pretty sure it is indeed Elizy, who Carlton counters was stealing from her. Apparently, destroying the television with a baseball bat was all in some good fun for the benefit of the kids. On a very superficial note, I still can't believe that Carlton was just 39-40 when she filmed for the show.

http://m.tmz.com/#2017/12/28/real-housewives-alum-calton-gebbia-housekeeper-lawsuit-missing-jewelry/

[WireWrap]

5 minutes ago, lunastartron said:

Pretty sure it is indeed Elizy, who Carlton counters was stealing from her. Apparently, destroying the television with a baseball bat was all in some good fun for the benefit of the kids. On a very superficial note, I still can't believe that Carlton was just 39-40 when she filmed for the show.

http://m.tmz.com/#2017/12/28/real-housewives-alum-calton-gebbia-housekeeper-lawsuit-missing-jewelry/

Who breaks up a TV with a baseball bat as fun for their kids? NUTS, Carlton is certifiable IMO. LOL

[Duke2801]

Carlton was a nasty piece of work and I 100% believe everything that the housekeeper said about her. 

 

Her hideous behavior toward Kyle totally earned her any disparaging comments Kyle may have made about her. 

[zoeysmom]

On 12/28/2017 at 0:48 PM, lunastartron said:

Pretty sure it is indeed Elizy, who Carlton counters was stealing from her. Apparently, destroying the television with a baseball bat was all in some good fun for the benefit of the kids. On a very superficial note, I still can't believe that Carlton was just 39-40 when she filmed for the show.

http://m.tmz.com/#2017/12/28/real-housewives-alum-calton-gebbia-housekeeper-lawsuit-missing-jewelry/

Carlton does her self no favors with the jet black hair dye-ages her at 10 years.  Not sure why she does it as she is relatively fair haired.

[lunastartron]

Carlton revealed on Twitter that the plaintiff is not Elizy. 

[FairyDusted]

Damn. Another Housewife divorce. The sheer number divorces within this franchise is staggering. I'm grabbing a sheet of paper to do which coast divorces more. 

[SweetieDarling]

57 minutes ago, FairyDusted said:

Damn. Another Housewife divorce. The sheer number divorces within this franchise is staggering. I'm grabbing a sheet of paper to do which coast divorces more. 

Overall? or since they've been on the show?  Tamra is on husband #3 (I think), so do you count 2 divorces or just the 1 from Simon, because she was married to him when she started the show?  The total number of divorces would be interesting, but also a bit frightening, I imagine.

 

Divorce is SO last season...the new trend in housewives seems to be committing felonies ; )

[FairyDusted]

Good point @SweetieDarling! I was thinking divorces while they were housewives or after they have moved on.  I DIED when I saw a clip of Kelly Dodds just jump in David Fosters car. He was not amused. I was.

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, SweetieDarling said:

Overall? or since they've been on the show?  Tamra is on husband #3 (I think), so do you count 2 divorces or just the 1 from Simon, because she was married to him when she started the show?  The total number of divorces would be interesting, but also a bit frightening, I imagine.

 

Divorce is SO last season...the new trend in housewives seems to be committing felonies ; )

Usually some media outlet will put the tally up when a new divorce is announced. This doesn't include Kelly Dodd, Shannon Beador, or Carlton. The stats aren't good for the franchise.

https://www.google.com/amp/m.eonline.com/amp/news/567233/we-calculated-the-divorce-rate-for-every-real-housewives-show-and-the-results-will-blow-your-mind

Edited January 3, 2018 by HunterHunted

[FairyDusted]

Well Thank you @HunterHunted for the link! Peggy of Armenia too!  They are even worse because they have been divorced and not remarried for 20 or so years. WHO does that?!

[zoeysmom]

16 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Usually some media outlet will put the tally up when a new divorce is announced. This doesn't include Kelly Dodd, Shannon Beador, or Carlton. The stats aren't good for the franchise.

https://www.google.com/amp/m.eonline.com/amp/news/567233/we-calculated-the-divorce-rate-for-every-real-housewives-show-and-the-results-will-blow-your-mind

Lizzie from OC is now divorcing.  They left off Tamra Judge's divorce.  Had her as still together.  Taylor Armstrong was not divorced she was widowed.   Wasn't time to get divorced. So that changes the percentage.  

[princelina]

On 12/23/2017 at 3:22 PM, lunastartron said:

I kind of wonder what she'd be like as a cast member sans Brandi.

 

She'd still suck :)

[SCS]

For a paltry $22 mil, you too can have a 15,200 square-foot Bev Hill estate with Gothic detailing and a burlesque room. Carlton was a one 'n done, wasn't she? The article says she appeared on 3 seasons and I don't remember that.

 

http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-gebbia-estate-beverly-hills-20180510-story.html

[WireWrap]

14 minutes ago, SCS said:

For a paltry $22 mil, you too can have a 15,200 square-foot Bev Hill estate with Gothic detailing and a burlesque room. Carlton was a one 'n done, wasn't she? The article says she appeared on 3 seasons and I don't remember that.

 

http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-gebbia-estate-beverly-hills-20180510-story.html

It was only 1 season, looks like someone is trying to cash in/inflate her connection to the show. LOL

[RealHousewife]

Carlton was never a favorite of mine, but I remember Andy saying he felt like she got a poor edit. I wonder what footage they didn’t show.