The GCEh?C: Canadian Episodes (Spoilers for Non-Canadians)

[peacheslatour]

2 hours ago, Diane M said:

Maybe she and John were having a 'dry spell' when Ashley was conceived.

Ouch.

[Desperately Random]

Thanks, Diane M and TwistedSoul. 

2 hours ago, TwistedSoul7 said:

Though I don't think Ashley every got a test to confirm it one way or another. It was just all their word. So we could be in for another twist. 

That's why I was curious. I was wondering if the writers are going to have Ash be John's after all. At least this time they won't be undoing a DNA result and Ash turning out to be John's biological daughter is a realistic possibility. Of course, first we'll have the fall out from Graeme telling GC that Ash isn't an Abbott and all the repercussions from that.

[boes]

4 hours ago, Gam2 said:

So Jack and Traci are John's children but Ashley was the product of the affair with Brent Davis? I didn't watch back then so have no idea what was going on. So Dina had two kids with John then one in between with Brent? That's a neat trick for Dina to play. 

She seems very agile.  Seems as if John missed her coming AND going!

[MollyB]

16 hours ago, Diane M said:

Maybe she and John were having a 'dry spell' when Ashley was conceived.

So did John know Ashley wasn't his from the git go?  If they were not having relations, then how would Dina explain the pregnancy?  (I wasn't watching then either.) 

I think that paternity test were done with blood types, and considered legal/valid, before DNA came into use. 

If John didn't know, did Dina sing "Benny's From Heaven" to John?  (it's an old song, folks, about a soldier who comes back after a year or so overseas and finds his wife has a baby (Benny) that she claims is his.)

[TwistedSoul7]

John went to his grave not knowing. The only people who know Ashley is not biologically John's is Ashley, Dina, Jack, and Victor. Katherine also knew. That is it. 

[TwistedSoul7]

Also Victor and Ashley started because after she had her breakdown, she ran away and Victor is the one who found her. He nursed her back to health and their affair began. 

[crowsworks]

On 10/7/2017 at 1:38 PM, TwistedSoul7 said:

Also Victor and Ashley started because after she had her breakdown, she ran away and Victor is the one who found her. He nursed her back to health and their affair began. 

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Did Prick EVER meet a vulnerable or mentally fragile woman he didn't screw or screw over - or both?

[boes]

29 minutes ago, crowsworks said:

Did Prick EVER meet a vulnerable or mentally fragile woman he didn't screw or screw over - or both?

Not that I can remember.  And all because, you see, he had to grow up in this orphanage where all he had to eat were worms and rutabagas and he had to sleep under a lit broiler and.....and.....

Because...... it gives him da sads.....

[ByTor]

On 10/7/2017 at 1:24 PM, MollyB said:

On 10/6/2017 at 9:09 PM, Diane M said:

Maybe she and John were having a 'dry spell' when Ashley was conceived.

So did John know Ashley wasn't his from the git go?  If they were not having relations, then how would Dina explain the pregnancy?  (I wasn't watching then either.) 

Yeah, that's just it, John at least should have been suspicious.

[peacheslatour]

9 hours ago, boes said:

Not that I can remember.  And all because, you see, he had to grow up in this orphanage where all he had to eat were worms and rutabagas and he had to sleep under a lit broiler and.....and.....

Because...... it gives him da sads.....

Luxury! I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."

 But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.

[bannana]

This dinner for Ash is going to be good.  She wants people that care about her to surround her, but there are certainly going to be some interlopers.  Victoria is going to accompany Neil, Phyllis with Billy, Hilary to cover the event, Graham with Dina.

• Ash and Jack are the Abbott mansion, reminiscing about John.  Ash has a flashback too, which is always nice.  Jack tells her that she was John's favourite, and he didn't mind, because he was a troublemaker back then.  They talk about her paternity and that it would have killed John to know the truth. Traci arrives and she and Ash talk about Dina and the investigation into Graham.  Ash gets distracted by her phone and is clearly not listening.  Traci says she has an old friend coming to visit, and he was a hot football player and she has decided to let him have his way with her right there on the sofa!  Ash finally pays attention.  Later Traci does have a visit with an old girlfriend and they peruse their yearbook.  Traci asks her if she remembers a Graham Bloodworth at school, and the friend recalls a Graham, last name unknown, who had very few friends and kept to himself; he was a loner, kind of an oddball.  Serial killer profile, or what?  Traci later looks through the yearbook again and finds a Graham Davis.  Wonder if she will tell Ash about this before the dinner?
• Phyllis tells Billy he shouldn't go to the dinner, because Jack will probably do something to harm him.  He says he and Jack talked about it, and everything is okay, and this is a first step to getting back into his family.  Phyllis tells him that if he wants to make amends with Jack he should quit BS.  He says he won't do that.  He whines about how the trouble between him and Jack is all Jack's fault because he is holding a grudge.  Later he tells Vic what Phyllis said and she says that is just a ploy to keep Billy away from her.   He sarcastically thanks Vic for the convo she had with Phyllis, and he believes this is why Phyllis broached the topic of him leaving BS.  He is going to send Phyllis flowers, but Vic says he can do that later, they have important work they need to do, and they are both leaving early tonight.  Vic has a date with Neil.  Billy doesn't think it's a good idea for Vic to go to the dinner with Neil.
• Dina thinks she is being fired because her password doesn't work!  She tells Graham that she is dreading Ash's dinner because they obvi are against her; he suggests that he could accompany her, and she agrees that would make her feel better, but no way would Ash and Jack allow that.  Ravi shows up to reset her password and Dina is relieved to know that she's not being fired.  Graham asks Ravi a bunch of questions about the company's IT security.  Not sure what that is all about.  Ravi says to Dina he will see her at the dinner and she takes her leave.  Graham tells Ravi that Dina is upset about going to the dinner alone and wants Graham to escort her.  Ravi says he will see what he can do.  He broaches it with Ash, who at first says tell Graham no.  Then one second later she calls Dina, tells her that she heard she is upset and wants Graham to escort her and tells her he can do so.  When Ravi asks why she changed her mind, she says that she is going to lay out all the info that they have learned about Graham to Dina, right in front of him.  Ravi also tells Ash that Dina was afraid she was going to get fired, and Ash says they would never do that to her.
• Phyllis shows up in Jack's office and is upset with him, that he ever told her about Billy using her laptop.  She admits that she caught Billy trying to access the Jabot server but that she interrupted him before he could do it.  Jack tries to educate Phyllis about Billy's behaviour, because she is still blaming Vic.  Jack says that, unlike Billy, Phyllis is loyal to Jack.  She says she wants Billy away from Vic.  Jack points out that even if it was Vic's idea, Billy still made the decision to betray Phyllis.  He says that Billy is more loyal to BS than he is to Phyllis.  Jack says Phyllis is being a victim, and that he feels sorry for her.  She is furious.  He points out that she is also lying to Billy about her plot with Jack.  Jack says when he is done with Billy he will have nothing left and Phyllis says: he'll have me.  Oh, puke.
• Nick tells Hilary he wants to do an interview with her about his father.  She agrees. Chelsea tries to talk him out of it.  Later Devon shows up at GC Buzz looking for Mariah and he heaps a bunch of praise on Hilary, and they talk about Jordan, and she talks about the true love that Cane and Lily have, the kind of love that can never die.  I just hope Mariah dumps Devon before he dumps her for Hilary.
• I think they may be heading for Vic and Neil because there was a scene today where Vic applies the masque to his face, and then later she touches his face to feel his skin.  It was weird.  Plus she is going with him to the dinner.

Previews:  Prick to Nick, in front of Chelz, at the GCAC:  Just remember one thing, there's nothing you have, that I cannot take. (Well, he is right in that he can take Christian, but I still don't get how he can just steal his money from him with no repercussions.) Jack to Ash:  Tonight is about celebrating you among the people you care about.  Dina to Graham: I am just so surprised that Ash even invited you, and Graham replies that he doesn't think it will be the last surprise before the evening is over. 

[Capricasix]

8 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Luxury! I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."

 But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.

You were lucky!

[Pop Tart]

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She says she wants Billy away from Vic.  Jack points out that even if it was Vic's idea, Billy still made the decision to betray Phyllis.  He says that Billy is more loyal to BS than he is to Phyllis.  Jack says Phyllis is being a victim, and that he feels sorry for her.  She is furious.  He points out that she is also lying to Billy about her plot with Jack.  Jack says when he is done with Billy he will have nothing left and Phyllis says: he'll have me.  Oh, puke.

I've liked GT as Phyllis better then her predecessor - but there is no way that Phyllis would have this reaction to a man betraying her in this way. She would be hell-bent on revenge, not suggesting that even with all Billy has done, it's not his fault, Victoria made him do it, and when it all crashes and burns, she'll still be with him because of their twu love! Agree on the PUKE, PUKE, PUKE.

[valleycliffe]

42 minutes ago, Pop Tart said:

I've liked GT as Phyllis better then her predecessor - but there is no way that Phyllis would have this reaction to a man betraying her in this way. She would be hell-bent on revenge, not suggesting that even with all Billy has done, it's not his fault, Victoria made him do it, and when it all crashes and burns, she'll still be with him because of their twu love! Agree on the PUKE, PUKE, PUKE.

phyl will take her revenge on the woman, never the man...

it will always be some other woman's fault that her relationships don't work..

[bannana]

It was a good show, and they are really setting the table for this dinner for Ash at TOTT.  Pun intended.

• Jack invites everyone to his office for a private celebration with champagne for Ash. He says lovely things about Ash, and she is very touched.  Attendees included Traci, Abby, Dina, Phyllis, Ravi and Glo.  Glo, btw, tells Ash she is not going to the dinner, and she Ash rather politely snark each other about it.  Ash also received a big flower bouquet from her friends at BS, to which Jack says to Ash, the nerve, considering they are stealing their information.  Traci tells Ash that she has something to tell her later.  Will she tell her right before the dinner, sending Ash into a tailspin?  Cause Traci doesn't know about Brent Davis, so would not realize what she is telling her.  Ravi has a meeting with Ash about the info he found out about Graham's mother, that she worked at a private school, and they wonder whether as a benefit of her employment she was able to get him enrolled.  Ash asks, what is the name of the school, and Ravi replies Walnut Grove.
• Nick and Chelz run into Prick at the GCAC where he unloads a pile of poop on his son, saying that he will take everything from him, telling Chelz that he didn't steal the money from Nick, but oh btw did she know it was his money to begin with.  He was quite vicious, no surprise.  They head on over to GC Buzz but Nick starts to have second thoughts. He finally goes through with it, and Hilary is blown away by the interview and says they will be streaming it soon.  It's a bombshell!  He should let his family know.  She says people are going to freak out.  We the audience did not see the interview.   Hilary looked stunning in her Chelz 2.0 and she is headed to TOTT for the big event.
• Prick then sidles his way over to BS, where he warns Vic that she is taking a big risk by using all of the funds from the HWG loan to go after the men's market.  He warns her about Jack.  He wonders whether Jack knows that they have hacked into his server.  Billy basically tells him to shut it, but Vic is more polite and says she appreciates his support, but she's got this.  Earlier Billy told her he almost got caught by Phyllis but he is sure that she is not suspicious.  He asks Vic if she is going to the dinner just so that she can take another run at Phyllis.
• Phyllis tells Ravi she knows everything, Jack told her, and Ravi says it is pretty bad for Billy to do that to her.  She says it is Vic's fault and Ravi points out that it was still Billy's decision to do it.  Ouch.  Later Jack apologizes to Phyllis, for coming down so hard on her.  She apologizes back, for overreacting.  There was an interesting moment where it appeared as though he really feels bad for her.
• Billy comes by to see Phyllis and finds out about the little celebration when he sees the champagne.  He asks Jack if Traci was there, and he says yes, and Billy whines about not being invited.
• Vic says that she is going to the dinner and Billy will be there as Phyllis' date, which is not actually true.  Vic  is doing a lot of lying lately.  Prick squeezes her shoulder.  Blech.  Vic says Drinki will probably be there too.  They both get a text from Nick saying they should watch the Hilary Hour.  Vic and Prick start watching the interview.
• Graham tells his mother on the phone that he is going to expose Dina's lies and blow her world apart just as she did to them.  No one in her family will ever want to speak to her again.
• Traci shows Ash the picture of Graham Davis.  Traci asks Ash if she remembers a family named Davis?

Previews:  At TOTT.  Drinki to Jack, in front of Hilary, rushes to the TV and says I have to go see what this woman has done to my family now. Graham to Ash:  Do you really want to do this here? And Ash says: you bet I do.

[Diane M]

Thanks for the spoilers.  The rest of this week is going to be very exciting.  

[babyhouseman]

10 hours ago, valleycliffe said:

phyl will take her revenge on the woman, never the man...

it will always be some other woman's fault that her relationships don't work..

Victoria should talk to Cricket about what Phyllis can do.

[HeatLifer]

2 hours ago, bannana said:

Later Jack apologizes to Phyllis, for coming down so hard on her.  She apologizes back, for overreacting.  There was an interesting moment where it appeared as though he really feels bad for her.

I'm vomiting.

[bannana]

Yowza, that was soapy goodness.  But truly the motto of the story (both stories) should be, don't air your dirty laundry in public.  But then it wouldn't be a soap!

So Nick's big move to preempt Prick is to donate the remainder of his trust fund, the dollars he got from Prick, to Jack and Neil's Foundation. This way there is nothing for Prick to go after.  Let me just say, EB must actually be a good actor, because the look of disdain combined with arrogance and the smug contempt he has for his own son  made me stabby.  I actually felt for Nick.  And that is saying something.

And on the Ashley front, holy shit, that was some soapy goodness too.  But the reveal that Brent Davis is Ash's father came from Dina, because she was so distraught by what she learned about Graham and that he was all about revenge against Dina on his and his mother's behalf.  I was worried she was going to croak right there, and Graham would inherit everything.  The only bad thing about the reveal is they didn't have the camera on Billy, Traci or Abby. Oh, and another important thing, Graham is not Brent Davis' son, Brent was his stepfather.

But let's go back to the beginning of this ep for the complete rundown to the epic events.

The dinner starts out fantastic and Jackie is very pleased with himself.  There's a slide show on loop showing family photos, there's champagne and fabulous food, and old standards playing in the background.  Drinki is impressed until Hil shows up and Drinki tries to eject her.  Jack explains that Hil is covering the event.  Drinki says Hil will ruin the entire evening.  Hil assures her when she was at the last event Prick okayed everything, and the current interview with Nick was his idea.  At that, Drinki runs off to watch the HH on her phone.  Phyllis, Billy and Michael arrive, Lauren is out of town on business.  Jack tells Billy he is glad he could make it and he initiates shaking his hand.  Neil is there sans Vic, who could not make it.  Devon is there, without Mariah, who is the one person's who side comments and reactions would be the most fun to watch.

Still at the mansion, Traci shows Ash the photo album with Brent Davis and Ash looks not stunned, but like she is working out a puzzle.  Traci says they need to get going.  Ash asks her what she remembers about Graham Davis.  Traci says she just remembers that he didn't seem happy.  Ash flashes back to a convo where Graham said he is not the bastard in all of this.  Ravi arrives. He can tell that Ash is troubled, but she says it is about her speech.  Over at the GCAC, Dina is upset because Ash keeps calling Graham a liar.  Graham figures being BD's daughter hasn't been so bad for her, as she has instead benefitted from the Abbott legacy.  Dina points out that when Ash learned the truth she had a serious breakdown.  Graham's interest is piqued.

Prick and Vic are watching the Hilary Hour at BS, and Abby is at the GCAC bar.  Nick starts out talking about his father as a force of nature who came from nothing and that his family, including Nick, have all benefitted from that.  He tells Hil about the lawsuit and how it was money he never earned and it is just all sitting there. She cannot believe that he didn't spend his money on yachts or sports cars, and that tells us right there that she has never been to the Tacky House or the Underpants.  Nick makes the point that having too much money can destroy a family just like not having enough.  So he is donating it all to the Abbott Winters foundation, because Jack and Neil are two men he respects.  He looks right into the camera when he says this. Abby, Drinki and Vic are all stunned.  Not Prick, just smug.

Graham and Dina arrive and she is impressed and excited.  Jack gives Graham the cold shoulder while barely acknowledging him.  Remember how Billy said he was wanting to get back in with his family?  When Phyllis asks him about the handshake, he says it was hypocrisy at its finest.  Phyllis wonders if he is feeling confident because he has a leg up on Jack. Then, Hil zones in on Phyllis and asks if she is alright.  Ash arrives to gracious applause, and Jack calls her his father's Beauty.  Drinki rushes over to Jack and says she has to leave due to a family emergency. He asks if anyone is hurt, and she says not yet. HAHA!  Dina remarks that Drinki suddenly remembers which family she belongs to.  Ash and Dina compliment each other, and Ash tells Graham that she is happy he is there, it is going to be a great night. Abby arrives and apologizes to Dina for being late and tells her about Nick donating his trust fund, and Dina warns her to not follow suit.  Billy and Traci talk his relationship with Jack, and Billy says it is fake.

Let's talk about the seating arrangement now.  Hilary is seated with Devon, natch, along with Michael, Phyllis and Billy.  Dina and Graham are seated with Abby and Traci.  Jack, Neil, Ash and Ravi are seated together.  Neil jokes around about the fact that they are being recorded and any of the footage can and will be used against them.  You got that right!  Michael pops by Ash's table to extend Lauren's regrets and Ash says something about keeping Jack honest, and Phyllis, from the next table questions whether honesty is even valued in the business world anymore.  Billy says what kind of honesty are  you talking about, you are not going to open your books to the competition are you, and she says no one would willingly expose the inner workings of their company...and Jack overhears this and decides to start the speeches for Ash.  First, Traci pulls out a poem she wrote as a child about Ash.  It's all very jovial and sweet.  Next Jack speaks briefly and they toast Ash, and Jack presents the award.  Billy does not speak, nor Abby.  Graham urges Dina to speak, to make amends.  She makes a speech at Abby's urging, and Dina starts to talk about leaving her children and her horrible mistake, and Ash tells her it is water under the bridge.  Graham intervenes, and says Dina wasn't finished, and that he has yet to see this gracious Ash everyone talks about.  Ash tells Graham to stay the hell out of her relationship with her mother, they have had their convos in private.  Dina gets upset that Ash is attacking Graham, and Ash raises her voice and says you have no idea who he really is.  Ash says she knows the who, the what, but not the why.  Graham challenges her whether she really wants to do this, and she says, you bet I do.

Drinki joins Vic and Prick at BS.  Prick says, so it takes your son's financial ruin to rip you away from that clown Jagabbit's side?  Chelz and Nick arrive.  Vic is pissed that he did the interview with Hil of all people.  Nick says Prick knows why he did it.  Prick says, you think you are taking power away from me?  Nick says his goal was not to hurt Prick, unlike Prick's goal which was to hurt Nick.  Drinki wants to know what is going on, what has Prick done this time.  Prick plays dumb, and Nick tells them that Prick stole every last cent from his chequing account.   Drinki is pissed at Prick, and also annoyed with Nick for giving his money away. Vic says he is being rash, and he can still back out.  Nick says he is not going to be broke, his kids are always going to be taken care of.  Nick says to Prick: you have always believed I was nothing without it, so now, in your eyes, I officially am nothing.  Prick smirks smugly in response.  Argh.  The women leave and Prick and Nick have it out.  Meanwhile Chelz says that Prick has gone too far, he hired someone to break the law, he robbed his son.  Finally, he has cut him off at the knees.  Drinki says all that Prick has done is to escalate the war.  Prick tells Nick that he threw away a lot of protection, protection from himself, meaning Nick.

Ash starts to lay out the truth about Graham, that Myrna Bloodworth is his mother, she was born and raised in GC, and Graham was raised there and went to Walnut Grove.  Traci clarifies that Graham Davis was in the yearbook and Ash says they are one and the same.  Graham says Ash has had too much to drink, while Billy says she sounds pretty sober.  Jack wants to know what kind of game he is playing with their mother.  Graham says he has done nothing, and Ash points out he is her closest confidante and will inherit her estate.  She says he targeted their mother specifically, and Graham finally stands up and says, you are right, I needed revenge, you have no idea how your mother has destroyed my life.  He says: you think Dina was the only woman Brant Davis ever looked at, she wasn't the only and she wasn't the best.  He admits that Brent made them a family, he was the only father he had, his stepfather.  He says Brent left them to go back to Dina.  He says: you didn't even want Brent Davis, but you took him anyway.  Dina is very upset, flustered and says: I don't understand, this is all about Brent Davis, Ashley's father Brent Davis?  Dina says she doesn't care about any of this, she just wants the truth.  Graham makes a toast to Ashley, the untrue Abbott.  Ash is not flustered, more like angry.  Traci has a good stunned reaction standing behind Ash, Jack looks like he might leap across the room and strangle Graham.  Billy looks like he swallowed an olive that was too big. We didn't get to see Abby's reaction, nor Hil's, maybe tomorrow.

Previews:  Vic to Nick:  Doing what you did to spite Dad, it's certifiable.  Dina, very upset, says this is enough, with Graham and Jack standing behind her, and Ashley starts applauding and says Bravo, let's hear it for Graham, and everyone watches in stunned silence. Graham to Dina: let's go, and he actually puts his hand on her, and seriously, WTF would she leave with him.  She says, no, I am staying (and she should be speed-dialling her lawyer) and Ashley tells him to get out before she calls security and has him dragged out.

Phew!  Sorry to say I probably won't be able to recap tomorrow, but if I get a chance I might do a weecap.

[Diane M]

Was hoping you'd recap, so many thanks.  I'm disappointed that Nick didn't expose Victor's part in Adam's death.  

[peacheslatour]

Whew! Great recap bannana!

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Devon is there, without Mariah, who is the one person's who side comments and reactions would be the most fun to watch.

Or Gloria. I would love to hear what she would say.

[Big Blue Plate]

Graham's scene would have been great if only the actor could act.  The last time I saw something go that flat John Abbott left the show.

[bannana]

1 hour ago, Diane M said:

Was hoping you'd recap, so many thanks.  I'm disappointed that Nick didn't expose Victor's part in Adam's death.  

I was sure that Prick was going to drop the Christian bomb in the family meeting, but I guess he is waiting.

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

Whew! Great recap bannana!

Or Gloria. I would love to hear what she would say.

Yes, both Glo and Mariah were missed, sadly.  A missed opportunity for great snark.

1 hour ago, Big Blue Plate said:

Graham's scene would have been great if only the actor could act.  The last time I saw something go that flat John Abbott left the show.

And the worst thing was that this was the most acting he has actually done!  Ash and Dina were bringing it though, so the scenes were still great.

[Big Blue Plate]

So was Dina blurting about Ashley and Brent stuff a sign of dementia? Or was she just so thunderstruck she forgot herself?   I recall Sally talking about the Dina Alzheimer's story.  But she's been on so long maybe there was a change there.  However, if Graham is about done, which he must be, they have to take the character somewhere and I guess we're still in Sally's arcs?  

That scene, though, was badly written and badly directed.  It seemed muddled and imprecise... Graham's rationale was pathetic... he lost his beloved STEP FATHER!  That's a switch.  Usually it's the wicked step whatever.  And when did Dina lure Brent Davis away again?  That's retconning and not for the better.  In fact if I recall she told someone she only ever saw Davis again when she returned in the eighties.  And if I recall further she gave him her best nine irons before she hot footed it out of town originally (another bit of retconning... actually Dina was a bad girlfriend to Brent... she nine ironed him back in the day and then tried to shoot him upon her return... that woman's out of control.)  And then Dina blathered about Ashley and Brent and no one seemed shocked... Traci might have got a gasp out in a blurry background shot.  It was verging on classic Bell type layout but it lacked... the sure footedness (and slow speed) of the old days.  

It's amazing to me -and I imagine frustrating and painful to many others - that of all the underemployed actors in L.A., that the best they could come up with for Graham was that lump of wood.  I mean, hot body and nice face but Jesus, he's like Yvonne Zuma in a silver fox. 

[jewel21]

Thanks for the recap, Bananna! I was hoping you'd do it, or else I would have, and I'm feeling lazy, heh.

I was surprised Nick just gave up his trust fund. Originally, I thought Nick was going to out Victor on "The Hilary Hour" as the sleazebag he is, which including Victor hiring someone to empty out his son's checking account.

The dinner scenes were great but I found Graham's motivation lacking and the preview showing him wanting to leave with Dina had me scratching my head. Seriously, why would she leave with him?

Speaking of Dina, I can't believe she outed Ashley's secret. I wish we had gotten to see everyone's reaction to the news that Ashley is Bret Davis' daughter.  

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm actually looking forward to tomorrow's show.

[DivaT]

6 hours ago, bannana said:

Yowza, that was soapy goodness.  But truly the motto of the story (both stories) should be, don't air your dirty laundry in public.  But then it wouldn't be a soap!

So Nick's big move to preempt Prick is to donate the remainder of his trust fund, the dollars he got from Prick, to Jack and Neil's Foundation. This way there is nothing for Prick to go after.  Let me just say, EB must actually be a good actor, because the look of disdain combined with arrogance and the smug contempt he has for his own son  made me stabby.  I actually felt for Nick.  And that is saying something.

And on the Ashley front, holy shit, that was some soapy goodness too.  But the reveal that Brent Davis is Ash's father came from Dina, because she was so distraught by what she learned about Graham and that he was all about revenge against Dina on his and his mother's behalf.  I was worried she was going to croak right there, and Graham would inherit everything.  The only bad thing about the reveal is they didn't have the camera on Billy, Traci or Abby. Oh, and another important thing, Graham is not Brent Davis' son, Brent was his stepfather.

But let's go back to the beginning of this ep for the complete rundown to the epic events.

The dinner starts out fantastic and Jackie is very pleased with himself.  There's a slide show on loop showing family photos, there's champagne and fabulous food, and old standards playing in the background.  Drinki is impressed until Hil shows up and Drinki tries to eject her.  Jack explains that Hil is covering the event.  Drinki says Hil will ruin the entire evening.  Hil assures her when she was at the last event Prick okayed everything, and the current interview with Nick was his idea.  At that, Drinki runs off to watch the HH on her phone.  Phyllis, Billy and Michael arrive, Lauren is out of town on business.  Jack tells Billy he is glad he could make it and he initiates shaking his hand.  Neil is there sans Vic, who could not make it.  Devon is there, without Mariah, who is the one person's who side comments and reactions would be the most fun to watch.

Still at the mansion, Traci shows Ash the photo album with Brent Davis and Ash looks not stunned, but like she is working out a puzzle.  Traci says they need to get going.  Ash asks her what she remembers about Graham Davis.  Traci says she just remembers that he didn't seem happy.  Ash flashes back to a convo where Graham said he is not the bastard in all of this.  Ravi arrives. He can tell that Ash is troubled, but she says it is about her speech.  Over at the GCAC, Dina is upset because Ash keeps calling Graham a liar.  Graham figures being BD's daughter hasn't been so bad for her, as she has instead benefitted from the Abbott legacy.  Dina points out that when Ash learned the truth she had a serious breakdown.  Graham's interest is piqued.

Prick and Vic are watching the Hilary Hour at BS, and Abby is at the GCAC bar.  Nick starts out talking about his father as a force of nature who came from nothing and that his family, including Nick, have all benefitted from that.  He tells Hil about the lawsuit and how it was money he never earned and it is just all sitting there. She cannot believe that he didn't spend his money on yachts or sports cars, and that tells us right there that she has never been to the Tacky House or the Underpants.  Nick makes the point that having too much money can destroy a family just like not having enough.  So he is donating it all to the Abbott Winters foundation, because Jack and Neil are two men he respects.  He looks right into the camera when he says this. Abby, Drinki and Vic are all stunned.  Not Prick, just smug.

Graham and Dina arrive and she is impressed and excited.  Jack gives Graham the cold shoulder while barely acknowledging him.  Remember how Billy said he was wanting to get back in with his family?  When Phyllis asks him about the handshake, he says it was hypocrisy at its finest.  Phyllis wonders if he is feeling confident because he has a leg up on Jack. Then, Hil zones in on Phyllis and asks if she is alright.  Ash arrives to gracious applause, and Jack calls her his father's Beauty.  Drinki rushes over to Jack and says she has to leave due to a family emergency. He asks if anyone is hurt, and she says not yet. HAHA!  Dina remarks that Drinki suddenly remembers which family she belongs to.  Ash and Dina compliment each other, and Ash tells Graham that she is happy he is there, it is going to be a great night. Abby arrives and apologizes to Dina for being late and tells her about Nick donating his trust fund, and Dina warns her to not follow suit.  Billy and Traci talk his relationship with Jack, and Billy says it is fake.

Let's talk about the seating arrangement now.  Hilary is seated with Devon, natch, along with Michael, Phyllis and Billy.  Dina and Graham are seated with Abby and Traci.  Jack, Neil, Ash and Ravi are seated together.  Neil jokes around about the fact that they are being recorded and any of the footage can and will be used against them.  You got that right!  Michael pops by Ash's table to extend Lauren's regrets and Ash says something about keeping Jack honest, and Phyllis, from the next table questions whether honesty is even valued in the business world anymore.  Billy says what kind of honesty are  you talking about, you are not going to open your books to the competition are you, and she says no one would willingly expose the inner workings of their company...and Jack overhears this and decides to start the speeches for Ash.  First, Traci pulls out a poem she wrote as a child about Ash.  It's all very jovial and sweet.  Next Jack speaks briefly and they toast Ash, and Jack presents the award.  Billy does not speak, nor Abby.  Graham urges Dina to speak, to make amends.  She makes a speech at Abby's urging, and Dina starts to talk about leaving her children and her horrible mistake, and Ash tells her it is water under the bridge.  Graham intervenes, and says Dina wasn't finished, and that he has yet to see this gracious Ash everyone talks about.  Ash tells Graham to stay the hell out of her relationship with her mother, they have had their convos in private.  Dina gets upset that Ash is attacking Graham, and Ash raises her voice and says you have no idea who he really is.  Ash says she knows the who, the what, but not the why.  Graham challenges her whether she really wants to do this, and she says, you bet I do.

Drinki joins Vic and Prick at BS.  Prick says, so it takes your son's financial ruin to rip you away from that clown Jagabbit's side?  Chelz and Nick arrive.  Vic is pissed that he did the interview with Hil of all people.  Nick says Prick knows why he did it.  Prick says, you think you are taking power away from me?  Nick says his goal was not to hurt Prick, unlike Prick's goal which was to hurt Nick.  Drinki wants to know what is going on, what has Prick done this time.  Prick plays dumb, and Nick tells them that Prick stole every last cent from his chequing account.   Drinki is pissed at Prick, and also annoyed with Nick for giving his money away. Vic says he is being rash, and he can still back out.  Nick says he is not going to be broke, his kids are always going to be taken care of.  Nick says to Prick: you have always believed I was nothing without it, so now, in your eyes, I officially am nothing.  Prick smirks smugly in response.  Argh.  The women leave and Prick and Nick have it out.  Meanwhile Chelz says that Prick has gone too far, he hired someone to break the law, he robbed his son.  Finally, he has cut him off at the knees.  Drinki says all that Prick has done is to escalate the war.  Prick tells Nick that he threw away a lot of protection, protection from himself, meaning Nick.

Ash starts to lay out the truth about Graham, that Myrna Bloodworth is his mother, she was born and raised in GC, and Graham was raised there and went to Walnut Grove.  Traci clarifies that Graham Davis was in the yearbook and Ash says they are one and the same.  Graham says Ash has had too much to drink, while Billy says she sounds pretty sober.  Jack wants to know what kind of game he is playing with their mother.  Graham says he has done nothing, and Ash points out he is her closest confidante and will inherit her estate.  She says he targeted their mother specifically, and Graham finally stands up and says, you are right, I needed revenge, you have no idea how your mother has destroyed my life.  He says: you think Dina was the only woman Brant Davis ever looked at, she wasn't the only and she wasn't the best.  He admits that Brent made them a family, he was the only father he had, his stepfather.  He says Brent left them to go back to Dina.  He says: you didn't even want Brent Davis, but you took him anyway.  Dina is very upset, flustered and says: I don't understand, this is all about Brent Davis, Ashley's father Brent Davis?  Dina says she doesn't care about any of this, she just wants the truth.  Graham makes a toast to Ashley, the untrue Abbott.  Ash is not flustered, more like angry.  Traci has a good stunned reaction standing behind Ash, Jack looks like he might leap across the room and strangle Graham.  Billy looks like he swallowed an olive that was too big. We didn't get to see Abby's reaction, nor Hil's, maybe tomorrow.

Previews:  Vic to Nick:  Doing what you did to spite Dad, it's certifiable.  Dina, very upset, says this is enough, with Graham and Jack standing behind her, and Ashley starts applauding and says Bravo, let's hear it for Graham, and everyone watches in stunned silence. Graham to Dina: let's go, and he actually puts his hand on her, and seriously, WTF would she leave with him.  She says, no, I am staying (and she should be speed-dialling her lawyer) and Ashley tells him to get out before she calls security and has him dragged out.

Phew!  Sorry to say I probably won't be able to recap tomorrow, but if I get a chance I might do a weecap.

 

Well done. Amazing recap. 

[bannana]

2 hours ago, jewel21 said:

Thanks for the recap, Bananna! I was hoping you'd do it, or else I would have, and I'm feeling lazy, heh.

I was surprised Nick just gave up his trust fund. Originally, I thought Nick was going to out Victor on "The Hilary Hour" as the sleazebag he is, which including Victor hiring someone to empty out his son's checking account.

The dinner scenes were great but I found Graham's motivation lacking and the preview showing him wanting to leave with Dina had me scratching my head. Seriously, why would she leave with him?

Speaking of Dina, I can't believe she outed Ashley's secret. I wish we had gotten to see everyone's reaction to the news that Ashley is Bret Davis' daughter.  

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm actually looking forward to tomorrow's show.

Thanks, @jewel21.  I am sure we will get some reactions tomorrow, but I agree, so disappointing to not get the big reactions from Abby, Billy and Traci.  Oh, and Hilary!

2 hours ago, Big Blue Plate said:

So was Dina blurting about Ashley and Brent stuff a sign of dementia? Or was she just so thunderstruck she forgot herself?   I recall Sally talking about the Dina Alzheimer's story.  But she's been on so long maybe there was a change there.  However, if Graham is about done, which he must be, they have to take the character somewhere and I guess we're still in Sally's arcs?  

That scene, though, was badly written and badly directed.  It seemed muddled and imprecise... Graham's rationale was pathetic... he lost his beloved STEP FATHER!  That's a switch.  Usually it's the wicked step whatever.  And when did Dina lure Brent Davis away again?  That's retconning and not for the better.  In fact if I recall she told someone she only ever saw Davis again when she returned in the eighties.  And if I recall further she gave him her best nine irons before she hot footed it out of town originally (another bit of retconning... actually Dina was a bad girlfriend to Brent... she nine ironed him back in the day and then tried to shoot him upon her return... that woman's out of control.)  And then Dina blathered about Ashley and Brent and no one seemed shocked... Traci might have got a gasp out in a blurry background shot.  It was verging on classic Bell type layout but it lacked... the sure footedness (and slow speed) of the old days.  

It's amazing to me -and I imagine frustrating and painful to many others - that of all the underemployed actors in L.A., that the best they could come up with for Graham was that lump of wood.  I mean, hot body and nice face but Jesus, he's like Yvonne Zuma in a silver fox. 

I don't get a dementia vibe from Dina, but she is an old lady and this was pretty stressful.  I am amazed she held up as well as she did.  I really wanted Abby to just scoop her up and take her out of that room.

I don't know about the history or the retcon, but it seems pretty clear that Myrna has been pulling Graham's strings to ruin Dina's relationship with her children.  I don't think Myrna meant for him to out himself and lose his windfall inheritance.  I think he was supposed to make Ash and Jack turn on Dina for things that he had plotted, thus far.  Then when Ash outed him, he blurted out his motive, which pretty much kills his inheritance and anything else for him.  Hell, he's not even Ash's brother, so he really has no place to go from here.

[Capricasix]

In the scene in Jack’s office, when they gathered to toast Ashley’s award, I thought Marla Adams did a wonderful job showing how ill at ease Dina was when the family all crowded around Ashley to congratulate her. She played it so well, as if Dina wanted to do the same, but didn’t dare, and she didn’t really know where to look. It was as if Dina was thinking that she really shouldn’t have been there, all things considered.

[Big Blue Plate]

Adams is one of the best things on the show... I never got a sense she could act as well as she does during her prior runs.  

[NeverLate]

On 07/10/2017 at 11:29 AM, TwistedSoul7 said:

John went to his grave not knowing. The only people who know Ashley is not biologically John's is Ashley, Dina, Jack, and Victor. Katherine also knew. That is it. 

And maybe everyone at the party, or who watches Hillary's show! 

[Big Blue Plate]

It struck me today that a big part of what was missing in this reveal - which seemed haphazard to me - was music.  Good old rich moving violiny soapy goodness music.  Y&R was particularly good at background music and that was missing. 

[Big Blue Plate]

Like, dear God in heaven, this..

[Gloriole33]

Welcome back, BBP.  Cue the violins.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Hmmmm, did someone get new boobs or a lift........that black dress showcased them.....

Edited October 12, 2017 by Foghorn Leghorn

[boes]

7 hours ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

Hmmmm, did someone get new boobs or a lift........that black dress showcased them.....

Foghorn Leghorn, it's so great to see you posting, I miss your funny and smart thoughts!!

Stick around, okay?

[bannana]

Okay, just watched the ep.  What the hells???  Jack took Dina back to her suite where he should have known Graham would get to her.  WTF.  He should have taken her home with him.  Of course, soapy goodness.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

6 hours ago, boes said:

Foghorn Leghorn, it's so great to see you posting, I miss your funny and smart thoughts!!

Stick around, okay?

Thanks so much!  Great to be missed!  I will check in more regularly, I do watch still!

[PatsyandEddie]

Marla Adams was absolutely fantastic today! I’ve really enjoyed her return and hope she stays around as long as possible. ??

[boes]

1 hour ago, PatsyandEddie said:

Marla Adams was absolutely fantastic today! I’ve really enjoyed her return and hope she stays around as long as possible. ??

Agree eleventy million x10

[bannana]

Wow, there was a lot of boring sex trafficking stuff today (that sounds improbable but it is true), and frankly I really didn't pay much attention. 

• Sharon is finally filling in Tessa and Mariah on what happened to Alice. It feels like ages ago when that happened, does no one have social media?  They are worried about their own safety now.  Zack talks to Scott about his story, in order to find out what he knows, I guess, and tries to convince him to do a story about his dating app instead.  Tessa bumps into Zack at CL and she tells him that Crystal is safe, that it wouldn't have been possible without the inside woman that had a change of heart and helped them, and that she was in an accident and has now vanished.  Zack says he would like to meet this woman.
• Tessa wants to know what is different in her relationship with Mariah, but Mariah is glossing things over. Sharon picks up on the tension between them and tries to get Mariah to open up but she doesn't.
• Over at the Abbott mansion both Traci and Abby are upset with Ash that she kept this secret from them.  Ash though is busy blaming Dina for outing the secret and is defensive about having exposed everything about Graham in front of everyone.  Really, Ash?  Cameras were running, people were watching, what did she expect was going to happen?  But Ash doesn't know that Graham knew and would likely have exposed it anyways.  There is lots of supportive talk amongst Jack, Abby and Traci, but Ash is truly distraught and very pissed at Dina.  She decides to go and confront her.  Jack explains to Abby that Ash at one time had a serious breakdown, and Traci realizes it was when she found out the news about Brent.  But they assure Abby that Ash is strong and she will be fine.  Abby is upset, but Traci and Jack feel it would be better for Ash if she leaves.  WTF?  So she heads to TOTT where Scott is having a drink.  She is upset and says something about her family and he tries to console her, and ultimately hugs her to comfort her.  Meanwhile Jack fills Traci in on the story about Brent.  Dina threatened Brent to not tell Ash, but he defied her and told Ash because he wanted a relationship with her.  Jack says that Brent was ill and he was at Katherine's.
• Dina has collapsed, and Graham left her there with the DND sign up.  Then he goes to the GCAC bar to call Myrna (really, doesn't he have his own room where he could make a private call?) and tells her that shit happened but he cannot discuss it over the phone.  He is leaving for Boca tonight and will tell her in person.
• Ash shows up at GC Buzz, looking pretty buzzed herself, and Sharon and Mariah ask her if she is okay, and she just wanders out.  She then goes to the GCAC and is pounding on Dina's door, telling her she wants to talk to her and she is not leaving.  Dina of course doesn't answer.  Eventually Graham shows up (was he coming to finish her off?) and Ash says:  You!  I want to talk to my mother, but she  is not answering her door, and he says, what do you want me to do about it, and she grabs him (hahaha) and says you have a key, open the damned door, and he does so with little resistance.  Ash sees Dina and rushes to her, alarmed, while Graham stands in the doorway doing nothing.

Previews:  Prick to Drinki: if you want our family to be whole again, you move back to the Ranch. Noah to Nick:  Dad, what were you thinking?  Graham to Ash, with Jack and Traci, at the  hospital:  Your father is pathetic, a loser, just like his illegitimate daughter is today!  And Ash lunges at him and Traci and Jack hold her back, not sure why.

[PatsyandEddie]

Thanks for the bananacap! 

I will not accept Scott moving on to Blabby, Zach is a douche, Ashley needs to kick Graham’s ass, Victor needs to STHU and Blabby is going to need a shrink after this. 

[rcc]

5 minutes ago, PatsyandEddie said:

Thanks for the bananacap! 

I will not accept Scott moving on to Blabby, Zach is a douche, Ashley needs to kick Graham’s ass, Victor needs to STHU and Blabby is going to need a shrink after this. 

bananacap - good one!

[peacheslatour]

Wow. Thanks bannana! You made it, I was worried I wouldn't get my fix today. Thanks, pal!

[crowsworks]

2 hours ago, boes said:

Agree eleventy million x10

this is ONE time I'd be happy if they pull a miracle cure/brain tumor/leaky blood vessel/ out of their asses to cure Dina.

Hummm who do we know who is a genius brain doctor (Mop needs one too) who is tall, silver haired, great timing, handsome, and a soap legend?.....hummmm..... Who....? 

I just fired  off a feedback letter suggesting just that to  http://www.cbs.com/feedback/

Edited October 13, 2017 by crowsworks
none really, just an existential yearning for a virile and lovable man on Y&R

[Foghorn Leghorn]

The camera man is totally going for Ashley’s boobs that are almost completely exposed in that dress!  Every opening shot on her focused on boobs then pan to face...LOLOL. It was a good day!

[bannana]

11 minutes ago, Foghorn Leghorn said:

The camera man is totally going for Ashley’s boobs that are almost completely exposed in that dress!  Every opening shot on her focused on boobs then pan to face...LOLOL. It was a good day!

When she showed up at GC Buzz, she was wearing a coat undone and her boobs just entered the room without her!

What is it with these people who keep their uncomfortable party clothes on after party is over?

[PatsyandEddie]

^IKR ? I guess it wouldn’t seem as dramatic though if she was running around in sweats or pj’s ? 

[Capricasix]

And those little tiny straps? She must have been freezing! Although maybe it’s warmer than you might think under the studio lights.

[Big Blue Plate]

5 hours ago, crowsworks said:

I just fired  off a feedback letter suggesting just that to  http://www.cbs.com/feedback/

Here's mine.... sort of double edged but I couldn't resist:  Please keep Marla Adams and the Dina Mergeron character on Y&R.  She's an enormously engaging actress and the character is a link to the old days, when the show didn't stink quite so much.  I try to keep watching.  I need an incentive.  Marla Adams has been making me laugh.  She's a trouper.  Find some soapy wiggle way out of the Alzheimer's story and keep her around to mix it up.  Thanks for your consideration. 

4 hours ago, bannana said:

When she showed up at GC Buzz, she was wearing a coat undone and her boobs just entered the room without her!

 

Neither young nor breastless. 

5 hours ago, crowsworks said:

Hummm who do we know who is a genius brain doctor (Mop needs one too) who is tall, silver haired, great timing, handsome, and a soap legend?.....hummmm..... Who....? 

Does this creature actually exist?

[boes]

7 hours ago, crowsworks said:

this is ONE time I'd be happy if they pull a miracle cure/brain tumor/leaky blood vessel/ out of their asses to cure Dina.

Hummm who do we know who is a genius brain doctor (Mop needs one too) who is tall, silver haired, great timing, handsome, and a soap legend?.....hummmm..... Who....? 

I just fired  off a feedback letter suggesting just that to  http://www.cbs.com/feedback/

Why Dr Neville, you just get your MEK aka Tad Martin behind back to Genoa City STAT!