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Emkat
Emkat

Why yes Michael.  Farrah often reminds me of Steve Jobs. LMAO.

MargeGunderson
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When Farrah is finally arrested for going batshit crazy in public, I hope crimes against the English language are included in the charges. 

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I love how she loves to talk about how she and Derek had some true love relationship and has said that they would have gotten married had he not died.  Then, we see her 16 and Pregnant or this video s

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ghoulina

ghoulina

I do not think Farrah has ever done hard drugs like heroin. I could be wrong, but I just don't see it. I remember that scene with Sophia, and others - like when she fell off the bed. I never had the impression that Farrah was high, just that she was really ditzy and self involved. She always wanted to do her thing and kind of acted like Sophia should take care of herself. 

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druzy

druzy

1 minute ago, ghoulina said:

I do not think Farrah has ever done hard drugs like heroin. I could be wrong, but I just don't see it. I remember that scene with Sophia, and others - like when she fell off the bed. I never had the impression that Farrah was high, just that she was really ditzy and self involved. She always wanted to do her thing and kind of acted like Sophia should take care of herself. 

I agree. I thought maybe it was Amber but I'm sure Amber never gave Leah a bath.

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mamadrama

mamadrama

5 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I do not think Farrah has ever done hard drugs like heroin. I could be wrong, but I just don't see it. I remember that scene with Sophia, and others - like when she fell off the bed. I never had the impression that Farrah was high, just that she was really ditzy and self involved. She always wanted to do her thing and kind of acted like Sophia should take care of herself. 

In Farrah's book, didn't she talk about doing cocaine? I seem to remember that conversation.

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Calm81

Calm81

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Watching the scene with Crazy Debra and her mother I saw such a huge resemblance between the two. They looked like sisters. I don’t find Debra pretty so I’m glad Farrah took her dads looks. I don’t think Farrah’s dad is cute or anything but Debra always appeared creepy looking to me. It’s hard to explain, and it was before and after the surgery. Her mouth, the way she talks, her hips and thigh shape, all weird to me lol. 

I know she can’t help how her hips and thighs look but she can camouflage it with forgoing the tight leather pants with crop tops.

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lilmarysunshine

lilmarysunshine

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On 1/15/2018 at 1:34 PM, ghoulina said:

I do not think Farrah has ever done hard drugs like heroin. I could be wrong, but I just don't see it. I remember that scene with Sophia, and others - like when she fell off the bed. I never had the impression that Farrah was high, just that she was really ditzy and self involved. She always wanted to do her thing and kind of acted like Sophia should take care of herself. 

Plus they were filming her. We saw hardcore drug use when Jenelle was being filmed and even Leah. I just never saw that from Farrah. 

Farrah. I really cannot stand her. I do not give her props for her “hustle” with the porn or sex industry. Admittedly, I am a prude and I think it is largely an exploitative industry and a terrible example for her daughter. I think it is debasing. But I will give her props for working on her furniture, clothing and yogurt stores. I do not know if/how they are successful. Storefront retail is tough in this age of Amazon. But she is not lazy like most of them, Chelsea included. 

And I am not sure her upbringing was any less toxic than that of Catelynn and Tyler but they get way more sympthy for it. Her mother is certifiable. I remember her being high maintenance and sort of type A in 16 & Pregnant but Debra truly is a legit piece of work in a bad way. Farrah seems to have glommed onto Amy, kind of desperate for a normal mother relationship. But Amy seems to kiss her ass and walks on eggshells around her, afraid to piss her off. There is NO WAY I would ever marry into that mess. Nu-uh. I ain’t doin’ it.

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ReadMeLattice

ReadMeLattice

On 1/15/2018 at 2:34 PM, ghoulina said:

I do not think Farrah has ever done hard drugs like heroin. I could be wrong, but I just don't see it. I remember that scene with Sophia, and others - like when she fell off the bed. I never had the impression that Farrah was high, just that she was really ditzy and self involved. She always wanted to do her thing and kind of acted like Sophia should take care of herself. 

Yeah, I saw a lot of complaints about a couple of times when Farrah left Sophia "alone" for a few seconds or minutes in another room (I remember once when she was moving and left the car seat outside the door for a minute while she did something in the house), but they seem to forget that an entire MTV camera crew is with them at all times that you would know extremely well and usually have worked with for years. I mean...the fact that Sophia was even left in the sink and being filmed (I'm not saying that was *smart,* btw) means that people were watching her...they have to be watching to film her, lol!

I'm not a Farrah superfan but most of the critiques of her as an abusive/neglectful parent, especially on par with a Jenelle or Amber type, or even a Leah, seem...not very well founded. I'd much rather spend a day with Leah than with Farrah as I think the latter would be fucking insufferable and she captions everything with #Make America Great Again, but I also can't imagine Leah taking her daughters to Hong Kong, sitting down with them and eating a full, healthy meal from another culture. There's good and bad to everyone, but unless we see more evidence, I don't think Farrah is some junkie or truly neglectful.

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lilmarysunshine

lilmarysunshine

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6 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

Yeah, I saw a lot of complaints about a couple of times when Farrah left Sophia "alone" for a few seconds or minutes in another room (I remember once when she was moving and left the car seat outside the door for a minute while she did something in the house), but they seem to forget that an entire MTV camera crew is with them at all times that you would know extremely well and usually have worked with for years. I mean...the fact that Sophia was even left in the sink and being filmed (I'm not saying that was *smart,* btw) means that people were watching her...they have to be watching to film her, lol!

I'm not a Farrah superfan but most of the critiques of her as an abusive/neglectful parent, especially on par with a Jenelle or Amber type, or even a Leah, seem...not very well founded. I'd much rather spend a day with Leah than with Farrah as I think the latter would be fucking insufferable and she captions everything with #Make America Great Again, but I also can't imagine Leah taking her daughters to Hong Kong, sitting down with them and eating a full, healthy meal from another culture. There's good and bad to everyone, but unless we see more evidence, I don't think Farrah is some junkie or truly neglectful.

I think Farrah is very aware of her image and does, in fact, consider herself super sophisticated and so wants to give Sophia those experiences.

But I think the way she treats Sophia is much more damaging than Chef Boyardee ravioli for lunch. It's like she has always simultaneously treated her like an adult and a spoiled princess.  Just the way she has always conversed with her - it is bizarre. It's exactly the way Debra converses with Farrah and Sophia, too. Michael seems to be the only one who is halfway normal but marrying Debra and procreating with her makes him not normal.

Gracie gets shit online for being bratty but to me she seems much more normal than Sopheeeeeeea.

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ReadMeLattice

ReadMeLattice

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7 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

I think Farrah is very aware of her image and does, in fact, consider herself super sophisticated and so wants to give Sophia those experiences.

But I think the way she treats Sophia is much more damaging than Chef Boyardee ravioli for lunch. It's like she has always simultaneously treated her like an adult and a spoiled princess.  Just the way she has always conversed with her - it is bizarre. It's exactly the way Debra converses with Farrah and Sophia, too. Michael seems to be the only one who is halfway normal but marrying Debra and procreating with her makes him not normal.

Gracie gets shit online for being bratty but to me she seems much more normal than Sopheeeeeeea.

I agree with this, except that I guess I think Leah's behavior is a lot more serious than giving them Chef Boyardee, so maybe it's not Farrah we see differently but Leah. I personally think the attitudes she's giving them towards life/themselves are pretty seriously awful. 

That said, def agree on Debra. I've said it before and I'll say it again, she is SCARY. 

And so much yes on the difference between Farrah and Catelynn/Tyler...Debra & Michael had money and a nice home and weren't incarcerated, so they *look* better, but I bet growing up with them was hell. I see Michael as very much one of those people who could be perfectly fine if matched with the right person but also very toxic if he's influenced by a toxic partner. Malleable.

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

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On ‎1‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 5:13 PM, mamadrama said:

In Farrah's book, didn't she talk about doing cocaine? I seem to remember that conversation.

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/farrah-abraham-cocaine-111280

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But I think the way she treats Sophia is much more damaging than Chef Boyardee ravioli for lunch. 

It was more than serving canned ravioli. It was the fact that Leah was an addict at that time. The comments about the canned ravioli were just part of what Leah was doing at that period of time. It was pointed out like many of the other things she was doing at that time. It was part of the bigger picture. Leah was damaging her children in various ways due to her addiction and other issues. 

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ReadMeLattice

ReadMeLattice

24 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/farrah-abraham-cocaine-111280

It was more than serving canned ravioli. It was the fact that Leah was an addict at that time. The comments about the canned ravioli were just part of what Leah was doing at that period of time. It was pointed out like many of the other things she was doing at that time. It was part of the bigger picture. Leah was damaging her children in various ways due to her addiction and other issues. 

Right, and I think the overall mindset she and Mama Dawn seem to have ("you ain't nothin' without no man") is highly damaging.  

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lilmarysunshine

lilmarysunshine

1 hour ago, Lm2162 said:

Right, and I think the overall mindset she and Mama Dawn seem to have ("you ain't nothin' without no man") is highly damaging.  

I have to say, though, that Leah and Germy have been broken up for at least a couple of years, right?  I'm surprised she hasn't had a new boyfriend.

I honestly think there's been some growth with Leah. Maybe it is wishful thinking.

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ReadMeLattice

ReadMeLattice

Just now, lilmarysunshine said:

I have to say, though, that Leah and Germy have been broken up for at least a couple of years, right?  I'm surprised she hasn't had a new boyfriend.

I honestly think there's been some growth with Leah. Maybe it is wishful thinking.

I thought she had a boyfriend and lived with him but hid him, and has recently been back with Jeremy off and on?

Not to be all doom and gloom, though. She certainly seems better than before! Or at least trying.

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

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2 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

Right, and I think the overall mindset she and Mama Dawn seem to have ("you ain't nothin' without no man") is highly damaging.  

Do you remember when Leah brought Jeremy home to meet her mother and step-dad? The first things they brought up was how Jeremy needed to understand that Leah and the girlses needed to be supported and cared for. Jeremy had just started dating Leah. They were pushing Leah off on him.

 

5 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

I have to say, though, that Leah and Germy have been broken up for at least a couple of years, right?  I'm surprised she hasn't had a new boyfriend.

I honestly think there's been some growth with Leah. Maybe it is wishful thinking.

T.R. Dues. He was her live-in lover for a year. She didn't talk about him or have him on camera. That's her right, if she was dating him. But Leah and him lived together. They weren't roommates.  To then go on camera and portray herself as a single mom doing it all on her own was laughable. 

Oh shit. This is the Farrah thread. 

On topic: Farrah's tweet about Amber...lol 

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druzy

druzy

Just now, GreatKazu said:

"Out of nine moms you're the only one with a problem." 

Hmm...

Amber, Cate, Jenelle = drug addicts

Amber, Kail, Jenelle = abusers

Cate, Jenelle, Amber = child neglect

What problem does Farrah have again? 

Exactly! 

A few seasons ago I thought Farrah was awful but I've had a change of heart. I think she always felt alone in this world and no one had her back. It's nice to see her building a relationship with Michael and Amy and learning how to navigate the crazy that is DebOZ.

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

Just now, druzy said:

Exactly! 

A few seasons ago I thought Farrah was awful but I've had a change of heart. I think she always felt alone in this world and no one had her back. It's nice to see her building a relationship with Michael and Amy and learning how to navigate the crazy that is DebOZ.

Farrah does have issues, but none on the level like the other ho-bags. She isn't committing crimes. The only crimes she commits are the ones against the English language. 

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Calm81

Calm81

I think when Larry said “out of the 10 moms you’re the only one with a problem” he meant it as “you’re the only one that has animosity towards the crew, producers, etc” because Farrah was making it sound like she doesn’t get any respect from the staff so that’s why she’s disrespectful towards them.

I think farrah is downright rude to the producers, but at the same time they can be intensely annoying with the way that the pretend to be your close friend to get you to open up with the dirt. They have been known to go behind the cast members backs and give out secrets or to supply the teen moms and dads with pillses to calm them down (not confirmed, I read it on a blind item).

I’m not siding with Farrah because we’ve witnessed her treatment to staff but if that’s really the true reasons for firing her then all the cast members should be fired. They didn’t even attempt to fire Matt for the sexually explicit way he talked to the producer in Vegas or how Amber tried to attack Farrah (Farrah is a member of staff also that Larry’s trying to protect). There was more to the firing than we will learn, for now anyway.

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guilfoyleatpp

guilfoyleatpp

Yeah, out of 9 moms, she's the only one who doesn't pretend like the crew is her family. 

I get that. I worked in television with these production assholes.  They are absolutely using these girls. That's the thing, though...the girls get paid to be used. It's a transaction. The girls are well paid to play nice, answer questions and pretend like the manufactured drama is 100% real. 

Still, this is an industry that relies heavily on personal relationships. Even though Farrah isn't making friends with the production people, they still have to deal with her. 

She might be ok after the MTV cameras go away because she doesn't tolerate the delusion that they're all friends. She won't miss the chummy phone calls and hugs and shit. They'll stop calling and it'll confirm everything she knew.  

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CofCinci

CofCinci

1 hour ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

Yeah, out of 9 moms, she's the only one who doesn't pretend like the crew is her family. 

I get that. I worked in television with these production assholes.  They are absolutely using these girls. That's the thing, though...the girls get paid to be used. It's a transaction. The girls are well paid to play nice, answer questions and pretend like the manufactured drama is 100% real. 

Still, this is an industry that relies heavily on personal relationships. Even though Farrah isn't making friends with the production people, they still have to deal with her. 

She might be ok after the MTV cameras go away because she doesn't tolerate the delusion that they're all friends. She won't miss the chummy phone calls and hugs and shit. They'll stop calling and it'll confirm everything she knew.  

Farrah was very close to Heather.  When Matt and Amber had her fired last year, Farrah did not adapt well to her new producer/crew.  I suspect the Italy trip was MJ’s attempt to bring Farrah and the crew together.  Of course they don’t bitch about how Farrah treats them until after their trip to Italy. 

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TeenMomAngerMgmt

TeenMomAngerMgmt

5 minutes ago, Booger666 said:

Do I think Farrah is unprofessional?  Absolutely!  Do I think the same about Ryan, Adam, Janelle, Amber, Matt, and others who have not been fired?  Absolutely!  And, it isn’t an employer’s place to comment on an employee’s level of empathy so I feel like MJ was goading Farrah some.  This all is so stupid.  

Paradoxically firing Farrah will probably be the end of the show. When they tried to film the show without her it was absolute bricks. Her coming back is what got the ratings back up. Catelynn, Maci, and Amber cannot carry the show on their own, unless MTV is gonna allow us to really see what their lives are like. 

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

3 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

Yeah, out of 9 moms, she's the only one who doesn't pretend like the crew is her family. 

I get that. I worked in television with these production assholes.  They are absolutely using these girls. That's the thing, though...the girls get paid to be used. It's a transaction. The girls are well paid to play nice, answer questions and pretend like the manufactured drama is 100% real. 

Still, this is an industry that relies heavily on personal relationships. Even though Farrah isn't making friends with the production people, they still have to deal with her. 

She might be ok after the MTV cameras go away because she doesn't tolerate the delusion that they're all friends. She won't miss the chummy phone calls and hugs and shit. They'll stop calling and it'll confirm everything she knew.  

Last week I discussed with a friend of mine who is a therapist about that young "Cash me outside" girl who became "famous" after her stint on Dr. Phil. We were talking about something when I brought up that girl to her. I told her how I am disgusted how that girl's behavior is being rewarded due to some of the business transactions she has been involved in. My friend told me she is not being rewarded. She is in fact being used. That girl is being used by the industry in order to make money off of her.  You just posted nearly the same thing to describe Farrah's situation. Thank you for the insight.

Farrah isn't being paid to be nice to them. She is being paid to deliver her scenes from her life. That is the transaction. Farrah's life has never been peaches and cream. It is dysfunctional. That dysfunction doesn't stop affecting her when she is interacting with the crew. That is like filming a person with a mental disease but expecting none of that to surface when dealing with them.   

UBT and Matt can use homophobic slurs, make threats, and tell producers to commit sex acts and continue to receive a paycheck , but Farrah doesn't treat the crew the way they want to be treated and they can't handle that shit? They don't complain when they are traveling with Farrah to Hawaii or Italy.

Jenelle and UBT refused to film scenes. UBT threatened staff during that one incident where he was counting down. He even threatened to hit Larry the producer with his car if he didn't move out of the way when he and Jenelle left the reunion taping. But Farrah is the unreasonable one. 

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ghoulina

ghoulina

15 hours ago, Emkat said:

I felt sad when on tonight's episode she seemed unable to even hug Michael properly.  Like she did it because she absolutely HAD to. Kind of a half hug/half push away kind of thing with a sad back pat thrown in. She is deeply damaged.

That really stood out to me. And when she says "I love you" - there's nothing there. They're just words. She really is more damaged than she cares to admit. 

 

16 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

"Out of nine moms you're the only one with a problem." 

Hmm...

Amber, Cate, Jenelle, Leah = drug addicts

Amber, Kail, Jenelle = abusers

Cate, Jenelle, Amber = child neglect

What problem does Farrah have again? 

I don't dispute ANY of this, but I think the producer meant a problem getting along with the crew. Not that being nice to the crew excuses their other shitty behavior, but I think Farrah is well known for treating them like garbage (i.e. the porta potty). 

Brooklynista

Brooklynista

44 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

That really stood out to me. And when she says "I love you" - there's nothing there. They're just words. She really is more damaged than she cares to admit. 

 

I don't dispute ANY of this, but I think the producer meant a problem getting along with the crew. Not that being nice to the crew excuses their other shitty behavior, but I think Farrah is well known for treating them like garbage (i.e. the porta potty). 

I'm  not Farrah fan but I think the porta potty is downright genius.  I shun having get togethers at my home because the thought of stray people putting their asses on my toilet seat skeeves me out. I can only imagine a crew of who knows how many that I would have to clean a bathroom after. No thank you.  Take your bowel movements over there please.

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

2 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

I'm  not Farrah fan but I think the porta potty is downright genius.  I shun having get togethers at my home because the thought of stray people putting their asses on my toilet seat skeeves me out. I can only imagine a crew of who knows how many that I would have to clean a bathroom after. No thank you.  Take your bowel movements over there please.

I know, right? 

Port-a-potties are used at various events, fiestas, concerts, street fairs, carnivals, etc. Why is it seen as being a terrible thing for someone to have one at their residence for a camera crew? They are not her family. She obviously didn't have a port-a-potty at her other residences in the previous seasons. Maybe one of the crew members clogged her toilet or made a mess and she decided that was it, she put her foot down, and the port-a-potty was her way of dealing with it for that one particular person? Was it specified that all the crew had to use the POP (I am not typing out the whole word)? Whatever the case may be, it isn't rude if you are working at someone's house. When we had construction work done on the outside of our home, we brought in a POP. I didn't need strange people knowing what I had in my home. I sure didn't want them in my bathroom using my toilet to take a shit after eating lunch. *shudder*

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jumper sage

jumper sage

3 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

I'm  not Farrah fan but I think the porta potty is downright genius. 

Count me as a yes vote to your post!  One of my relatives that lives on a great piece of land with a few cabins and places for RVs, along with their own house, built outhouses around the property with flush toilets in them.  Genius!  I have always been jealous of the flush outhouses.

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FairyDusted

FairyDusted

I don't know what's going on with Farrah but I was surprised she looked like she hadn't brushed her hair and I give it to her for at least great grooming. I hadn't thought about it but the POP TM AMF @GreatKazu. That would drive me nuts even though I have a marked Powder Room for the few guests I have. I'm a nut about my damn floors too so bag em or leave your shoes at the door please. 

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GreatKazu

GreatKazu

8 minutes ago, FairyDusted said:

I don't know what's going on with Farrah but I was surprised she looked like she hadn't brushed her hair and I give it to her for at least great grooming. I hadn't thought about it but the POP TM AMF @GreatKazu. That would drive me nuts even though I have a marked Powder Room for the few guests I have. I'm a nut about my damn floors too so bag em or leave your shoes at the door please. 

lol @ the AMF. *wink* 

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