Catelynn (and Tyler)

[Katt]

11 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

^^^ you think Kim made a blanket out of the picture??

She probably wall-papered the inside and outside of her house with it. **vomit**

[starfire]

I don't get the feeling that Kim dislikes Cate, but I don't think she wanted him to marry her and have another kid, at least at this point in time, when they haven't gone to college, etc. I think Kim may believe if they had broken up before Nova that Tyler would have done more with his life.

Maybe I missed something, but some of the things people are saying in this thread, such as Kim is constantly ragging about Cate's lack of ambition, Cate's looks/weight, and so on, I have not noticed. I notice Tyler mentioning these things to Kim, however. 

[starfire]

The only time I remember Kim acting concerned about Cate's ambition was when they were talking about college several seasons ago. This was when Tyler actually sounded like he had some ambition, claimed he wanted to go to college, and Cate didn't.

[GreatKazu]

11 minutes ago, starfire said:

I don't get the feeling that Kim dislikes Cate, but I don't think she wanted him to marry her and have another kid, at least at this point in time, when they haven't gone to college, etc. I think Kim may believe if they had broken up before Nova that Tyler would have done more with his life.

Maybe I missed something, but some of the things people are saying in this thread, such as Kim is constantly ragging about Cate's lack of ambition, Cate's looks/weight, and so on, I have not noticed. I notice Tyler mentioning these things to Kim, however. 

Kim agrees with him or sits there and nods. She doesn't defend Cate except to mention PPD here and there.  She may add something to the convo to show she believes him. She is his parent so, she is likely to go along with what he says. Kim also knows Cate outside of this show. 

[starfire]

5 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Kim agrees with him or sits there and nods. She doesn't defend Cate except to mention PPD here and there.  She may add something to the convo to show she believes him. She is his parent so, she is likely to go along with what he says. Kim also knows Cate outside of this show. 

I agree. I haven't heard her bring up anything negative about Tyler recently, but she has in the past at least a few times, about getting a real job and going to college. Mainly I responded because some people were saying that Kim is constantly saying bad things about Cate. I have not noticed that. Granted, I often get sleepy and lose some brain cells while watching the show, so if anyone who mentioned Kim says terrible things about Cate about her weight, her ambition, and so on, could let me know what episode, I will re-watch. I re-watched their interaction from the last episode and I didn't notice that she said anything bad about Cate.

[AmyFarrahFowler]

She once mentioned Tyler's "car addiction" but she seemed more proud than concerned about it.

[SPLAIN]

Going by the reactions, I won't open that link. At least, not on a full stomach.

5 minutes ago, AmyFarrahFowler said:

She once mentioned Tyler's "car addiction" but she seemed more proud than concerned about it.

Now see, that is what I remember about her. She pointed out to Tyler on more than one occasion how he should be doing something with his life. She did mention his obsession with cars. There was a time when the discussion was all about what Tyler was going to do with his life whereas Cate sat there and pretty much said, "I am staying home, dude."

Catelynn doesn't want Tyler to work and possibly be around females. She knows she can't trust him.

[geekamonggeeks]

3 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

Catelynn doesn't want Tyler to work and possibly be around females. She knows she can't trust him.

You might be onto something there. This may be the Mandela Effect kicking in, but I seem to recall that Cate got really anxious when Tyler was going to college and she couldn't go with him because she hadn't graduated high school yet. She seemed pretty nervous that he would be around all these good-looking girls and let them seduce him or something. She's clearly insecure in their relationship and is afraid that Tyler will up and leave her (especially since he's done it before with that ill-advised excursion to New Orleans).

[Brooklynista]

We remember the panic attack the poor girl had when they were going to a club. I thought she was going to DIE at the thought if him being around other women.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

23 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

^^^ you think Kim made a blanket out of the picture??

Bahahahaha! Can we be BFF, Brooklynista? This made my weekend. 

[geekamonggeeks]

Carly comforter, Nova curtains, Tyler throwpillows, the list goes on and on. 

[CofCinci]

Put Nova's face on their bong and they'll know what their kid looks like. 

[GreatKazu]

55 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Put Nova's face on their bong and they'll know what their kid looks like. 

They probably have Carly"s face on there already.

[starfire]

Here's the blanket that Tyler uses.  He really likes it when the images reflect off his mirrored ceiling...

 

(yes I need a life)

 

[MissMel]

That's awesome! Thank you for only using photos that include shirts. 

[CofCinci]

He looks at his selfie blanket while listening to Goodbye Horses from the Silence of the Lambs soundtrack.

[SPLAIN]

On 9/25/2016 at 2:57 PM, Brooklynista said:

We remember the panic attack the poor girl had when they were going to a club. I thought she was going to DIE at the thought if him being around other women.

She did act as if it was the end of the world for her. It probably was the end of the world for her since she did say at one of the reunion shows she was worried Tyler was going to "dip out on her": http://hollywoodlife.com/2011/09/28/teen-mom-catelynn-lowell-tyler-baltierra-split/

In that link, Catelynn's words at the reunion are that she needs to get Tyler a ring so girls will leave him alone. As if a ring will keep Tyler from dipping with anyone, and I mean anyone.  The article also mentions a time those two had gone clubbing and Catelynn was upset about the girls Tyler would encounter. That was a scene on one of the seasons.

Catelynn has way too many issues. Sadly, I don't think has made any strides.

[ChristmasJones]

Its really sad that Cate and Tyler became so dependent and then intertwined at such a young age. They bonded to each other in an unhealthy way as a coping mechanism in their chaotic families.

[DNR]

Ugh , all those selfies with the smoldering look and blue eyes looking off into the distance .  Tyler really thinks he's hot shit.  To me - i think of him as he'd be the hottest guy in the trailer park but anywhere else a 5.  

Grow up . Take care of your kid 

[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, DNR said:

 Tyler really thinks he's hot shit.  To me - i think of him as he'd be the hottest guy in the trailer park but anywhere else a 5.  

 

I don't know. You're getting into Shawn, from BOY MEETS WORLD, when you go there. That's some pretty stiff competition. ;-) 

Edited September 27, 2016 by mamadrama
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[ReadMeLattice]

21 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

She did act as if it was the end of the world for her. It probably was the end of the world for her since she did say at one of the reunion shows she was worried Tyler was going to "dip out on her": http://hollywoodlife.com/2011/09/28/teen-mom-catelynn-lowell-tyler-baltierra-split/

In that link, Catelynn's words at the reunion are that she needs to get Tyler a ring so girls will leave him alone. As if a ring will keep Tyler from dipping with anyone, and I mean anyone.  The article also mentions a time those two had gone clubbing and Catelynn was upset about the girls Tyler would encounter. That was a scene on one of the seasons.

Catelynn has way too many issues. Sadly, I don't think has made any strides.

I forgot about that. Yikes!!!!

[Calm81]

On 9/27/2016 at 1:18 AM, mamadrama said:

I don't know. You're getting into Shawn, from BOY MEETS WORLD, when you go there. That's some pretty stiff competition. ;-) 

 

On 9/27/2016 at 1:18 AM, mamadrama said:

I don't know. You're getting into Shawn, from BOY MEETS WORLD, when you go there. That's some pretty stiff competition. ;-) 

I don't know why it has two of the same quote boxes.

Thanks @mamadrama for the "Boy meets world" reference. Tyler ain't no Shawn from the Trailer park. Tyler would be a 4.5 in those parks - didn't Channing Tatum come from the trailer park? Need I say more about the dudes you'd find in there? Diamonds can be discovered in the midst of the 100's of car parts found there. ????

Edited September 28, 2016 by Calm81
Stupid iPhone thinks ain't isn't a word O:-)

[Tatum]

37 minutes ago, Calm81 said:

 

I don't know why it has two of the same quote boxes.

Thanks @mamadrama for the "Boy meets world" reference. Tyler ain't no Shawn from the Trailer park. Tyler would be a 4.5 in those parks - didn't Channing Tatum come from the trailer park? Need I say more about the dudes you'd find in there? Diamonds can be discovered in the midst of the 100's of car parts found there. ????

My aunt lived in a trailer park. The girl cousins (ages 9-12) all loved going there because on top of the fact that my aunt was basically a big kid herself, we all got to see Sam, the 14 year old stud who lived a few trailers over and tooled around the trailer park on his moped. 23 years later, I can't really picture Sam, but I feel quite confident he would have smoked Tyler. I'd rate Tyler a strong 6 as a teenager, and give a 5 at best as a mid 20something.

[Brooklynista]

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/catelynn-lowell-smoking-weed-marital-issues-tyler-baltierra-teen-mom-og/

I just don't like Kim. Why would she call Cate out for still smoking weed but not Tyler? Oh, that's right he's perfect and every thing he does is magic.

Why not suggest they both quit? 

[Marisagf]

2 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/catelynn-lowell-smoking-weed-marital-issues-tyler-baltierra-teen-mom-og/

I just don't like Kim. Why would she call Cate out for still smoking weed but not Tyler? Oh, that's right he's perfect and every thing he does is magic.

Why not suggest they both quit? 

Again, we already know the outcome, so it doesn't matter what Kim said or didn't say.  They don't quit.  They are still married.  They are still tokin' up on the daily and are now card-carrying potheads.  These discussions were shot months ago and Radar is just reporting on it because it's in the next episode.   Kim doesn't like Caitlyn and thinks Tyler can do no wrong.  I don't see that changing any time.  We all have her number!

[ghoulina]

Ugh, that made me feel for Catelynn. She said she feels her mental illness messes up everything and it would be better if she wasn't around? Sounds suicidal to me. Tyler is not a supportive husband at all. "She's responsible for her stuff, and I'm responsible for mine". Okay, true. But this is a marriage. Don't you WANT to help your partner? No, instead it's all about him and he's got his mom pushing him to tell Cate to quit stuff that no one is telling Tyler to quit doing. WTF

[marshmallow]

Seeing David Faustino guest star on another show reminded me of who Tyler reminds me of with his baby face and tough dude act...Grandmaster B!

 

[Tatum]

4 minutes ago, marshmallow said:

Seeing David Faustino guest star on another show reminded me of who Tyler reminds me of with his baby face and tough dude act...Grandmaster B!

 

Aw yeah, it's a tough life for Grandma B...

[GreatKazu]

4 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Ugh, that made me feel for Catelynn. She said she feels her mental illness messes up everything and it would be better if she wasn't around? Sounds suicidal to me. Tyler is not a supportive husband at all. "She's responsible for her stuff, and I'm responsible for mine". Okay, true. But this is a marriage. Don't you WANT to help your partner? No, instead it's all about him and he's got his mom pushing him to tell Cate to quit stuff that no one is telling Tyler to quit doing. WTF

Bolding mine.  This is why he took off for New Orleans.

Tyler has been a self-absorbed prick and selfish bastard for quite some time. This is nothing new. We knew what a mess it was for Catelynn to marry him. If two people don't go into a marriage for all the right reasons and one of them is not giving 100 percent prior to marriage, what do ya expect? Not you directly ghoulina.

Tyler already mentioned two episodes ago how "this" (marriage) was not what he thought it was going to be. He even referenced poor Chevy Nova as being a mistake. Not in those words, but that is what he implied to his mother.  More and more Tyler is just filtering out what he has been keeping inside for so long.

[ghoulina]

Yea, I think he is hoping that viewers will see him as this poor, bedraggled, put-upon husband. They will sympathize for him. Catelynn is a mess and HE'S the super dad, holding it all together. People won't blame him if he reaches the end of his rope, because he's done SO much for Catelynn and he just can't anymore. 

 

Oh please. Tyler NEVER wanted to stay with her. This was clear many many years ago. He's only done so for the attachment to fame via this show. And he acts like he's doing her some sort of favor. What's worse - she believes it. 

[Maharincess]

On 9/25/2016 at 11:21 AM, SPLAIN said:

 

Catelynn doesn't want Tyler to work and possibly be around females. She knows she can't trust him.

My daughter works with a guy who is in a relationship like that.  When he gets to work he has to send his girlfriend a picture of who he's working with that day, she calls work at least ten times during his shift to make sure he isn't talking to any females and she's actually called my daughter and cussed her out because she talked to the guy while they were working, she told my daughter that she's only "allowed" to speak with him about work related things, nothing personal.   They work in a big hotel and this woman has called the bartenders there and asked them to call her if they see her boyfriend in the bar.  She shows up at work at random times to check on him. 

I can see Cate doing all of that. 

I will never EVER understand how anybody could be in a relationship like that.  

Edited September 29, 2016 by Maharincess

[ginger90]

1 hour ago, Maharincess said:

My daughter works with a guy who is in a relationship like that.  When he gets to work he has to send his girlfriend a picture of who he's working with that day, she calls work at least ten times during his shift to make sure he isn't talking to any females and she's actually called my daughter and cussed her out because she talked to the guy while they were working, she told my daughter that she's only "allowed" to speak with him about work related things, nothing personal.   They work in a big hotel and this woman has called the bartenders there and asked them to call her if they see her boyfriend in the bar.  She shows up at work at random times to check on him. 

I can see Cate doing all of that. 

I will never EVER understand how anybody could be in a relationship like that.  

In my limited experience, people who do things like that aeRe the ones "cheating".I

Edited September 29, 2016 by ginger90

[GreatKazu]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

In my limited experience, people who do things like that aeRe the ones "cheating".I

Or, they are abusers.

I don't see Cate going THAT far, but I do see her being the type to go check things out. Peeping through a window or sitting in her minivan watching from afar. I wouldn't be shocked to know she goes through Tyler's phone. I bet she does that constantly.  From what has been posted here, he sure puts himself out there on the internet a lot. She has probably caught him checking out porn. Cate went ballistic over Tyler going to a club, imagine finding his computer filled with porn? LMAO Maybe that is what happened on piggie night. Poor piggie got the blame.

[ghoulina]

It's often true that the paranoid ones are paranoid because THEY'RE being unfaithful. Or have been. In Cate's case, I think she's just incredibly insecure. Tyler is the "hot" one in the relationship. We heard her friend talk about it like Cate was so lucky to have such a hunky husband. He's also the one who has expressed wanting out several times. He even took the ring back at one point! So she is just constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop. This will NEVER be a functional relationship. Ever. She needs to remove herself and work on her self esteem for a long time before she will be ready to be on an even playing field with a man. And Tyler will never be a man, so....

[Pherber]

This might come across as superficial, but I'd like to see Catelynn get gastric bypass surgery to help her lose weight.  Ideally, she should kick her pot addiction first, but that's never going to happen.  I just feel sorry for her bc of Tyler's condescending remarks and poor treatment of her, and would love to see her lose weight and have some self-esteem.  It might just motivate her to get out of bed in the morning and give her some energy.  Over the past few episodes, she has looked larger than ever before.  

[Brooklynista]

31 minutes ago, Pherber said:

This might come across as superficial, but I'd like to see Catelynn get gastric bypass surgery to help her lose weight.  Ideally, she should kick her pot addiction first, but that's never going to happen.  I just feel sorry for her bc of Tyler's condescending remarks and poor treatment of her, and would love to see her lose weight and have some self-esteem.  It might just motivate her to get out of bed in the morning and give her some energy.  Over the past few episodes, she has looked larger than ever before.  

I don't think Cate is quite gastric big.  I think she's still in the Jenny Craig or meal delivery big range.  I know how hard it is to try to eat healthy when you have a partner that can inhale food and seemingly not gain weight.  Not that Tyler isn't gaining, but it isn't showing like it is on Cate. That weed doesn't help at all either.  All it makes you want to do is snack.

Cate would do well to start cooking.  She'd be surprised how good a home made quesadilla or home Chinese food can be. You can still have your treats but control your calories by cooking stuff yourself.  Tyler is online all damn day, I'm sure his prissy ass has a Pinterest page.  Pin some healthy options for Cate.   Oh wait, she has to look out for herself because he's only her husband, not her life partner or anything.

[teapot]

17 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

I don't think Cate is quite gastric big.  I think she's still in the Jenny Craig or meal delivery big range.  I know how hard it is to try to eat healthy when you have a partner that can inhale food and seemingly not gain weight.  Not that Tyler isn't gaining, but it isn't showing like it is on Cate. That weed doesn't help at all either.  All it makes you want to do is snack.

 

I've talked about it before, but I just remember her in 16 & Pregnant, even right after she delivered Carly, with her delicate little face.  I don't even know if she's one who would always need to watch her weight, if she just practiced intuitive eating she'd be much healthier.

[evilmindatwork]

I think Cate should do whatever she needs to do to feel better but I'd hate for her to internalize the idea that she deserves to be treated badly because she's fat. I know she's already internalized it but her self worth shouldn't come from being thin or hot.

[poopchute]

In addition to that, she could take Nova for a 30 minute walk every day.  When you're that big you don't need to kill it with the exercise; just walking to start will make a difference.  Actually all I really do for exercise is walk and that's how I maintain/lose weight (9 lbs of baby weight to go!!)

[Tatum]

1 hour ago, Brooklynista said:

Tyler is online all damn day, I'm sure his prissy ass has a Pinterest page.

If he has a Pinterest page, I'm sure it consists entirely of Tyler Baltierra google images.

[Pherber]

The only reason I suggested gastric bypass is because Catelynn is never going to try to lose weight on her own by working out or eating healthy.  I just don't see that happening, especially if she is as clinically depressed as she seems to be.  She doesn't even want to get out of bed, fix herself up, or go anywhere, which seems like she has given up on herself in a sense. 

Likely, she is a better candidate for a prescription weight loss pill like Adipex or something similar - for a short time, of course.  She should see a primary care physician who knows which weight loss medication will work best with her anti-depressants.  Since many anti-depressants cause major weight gain, perhaps she could be placed on a different one.  Just random thoughts, and I am by no means fat-shaming Cate.  I just hate seeing her not even trying, while a puffy Tyler keeps putting her down.  

I went through a terrible depression in 2013, and put on 50 pounds, which caused me not want to get out of bed or see my friends for a year.  My family commented on my weight all the time, trying to motivate me, but it had the opposite effect.  Luckily, my physician put me on Adipex for a while and changed my anti-depressant.  Soon, I began losing weight, feeling better about myself, and got back into eating healthy, working out and socializing again. 

[Pherber]

10 minutes ago, Tatum said:

If he has a Pinterest page, I'm sure it consists entirely of Tyler Baltierra google images.

Have you seen his Instagram page?  It's all about Tyler.  Loads of females comment about how great he looks in his photos, and tell him he's the "best father" and/or husband.  I can only imagine that Catelynn reads all of that becomes even more jealous and insecure.

[DangerousMinds]

I think her weight is the least of her problems. Gastric bypass is a major surgery with lots of risks and side effects. IMO Cate should not even consider this.

[GreatKazu]

41 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

I think her weight is the least of her problems. Gastric bypass is a major surgery with lots of risks and side effects. IMO Cate should not even consider this.

Agree on both counts. So many people jump into having plastic surgery (Kail) without realizing it is major surgery.

Gastric Bypass is not something to jump into lightly. A specialist in GB would likely not find Cate to be a suitable candidate because her eating habits are not healthy and they would want to know if there are problems she is having that may contribute to her weight problems. She would likely be ordered to try and lose some weight first. My niece's husband had the GB surgery a year ago. His doctor had him try to lose 15 pounds first, which he did. The doctor also ordered him on a diet so he would be accustomed to eating healthy. No point in having GB if the person is going to continue eating take-out, fast food, and unhealthy foods. They'd be stupid to eat that way after the GB anyways because their bodies won't be able to tolerate it.

Cate's weight seems to be due to her bad eating habits. Smoking weed only adds to it because guess what? You get the munchies! That is why many cancer patients are prescribed marijuana because it helps their appetite. Her weight is the symptom of a much bigger problem. Getting Cate to lose weight is like getting a skinny drug addict to eat better so they don't look so scrawny.

Edited October 5, 2016 by GreatKazu

[poopchute]

Plus if she's not ready to make a lifestyle change it would be a huge waste.  I know it's probably harder to gain the weight back after that surgery but it's not impossible.

@GreatKazu I was posting at the same time as you were and I agree with everything you said.

Edited October 5, 2016 by poopchute

[CofCinci]

I'm really disturbed by this latest social media from Tyler:

https://i.reddituploads.com/d6b9f9f27d43498ea2d6eb13e76d0f72?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=1e31df5d74fd250f7d22ea75900582cd

[Marisagf]

19 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

I'm really disturbed by this latest social media from Tyler:

https://i.reddituploads.com/d6b9f9f27d43498ea2d6eb13e76d0f72?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=1e31df5d74fd250f7d22ea75900582cd

Me, too!!!  What an ass he is!

[GreatKazu]

Fucking Tyler! He hates the filter. His problem is he has no filter whatsoever. Either he is quick to say stupid shit or he posts some fucked up shit like that! 

[NikSac]

WTF is that about??  If it scares you why are you posting it for all the world - and likely more than a few sicko pedophiles - to see???

For that matter I don't even think she looks pretty there, though I agree with scary.

[starfire]

I keep thinking what profoundly different lives Nova and Carly must have and will continue having. Makes me sad for Nova and thankful that at least one of Cate and Tyler's kids got out of there.