Maci

[neenyah]

On 10/10/2017 at 11:31 AM, AmandaUnbidden said:

Guys, I live in the Lubbock area and was planning on going to this tattoo expo already. Now I'm definitely gonna have to go to check out Maci in person. lol I'll keep ya updated if I do end up going. 

Looking forward to stealth photos. I cannot imagine that she looks good at her age. I have a neighbor like her (very fair, naturally thin, redhead) and even though we are the same age (40, although she's almost a year younger than me), she looks nearly my mom's age. 

Maci must look 35 if a day.

[Bridget]

On 10/10/2017 at 8:31 AM, AmandaUnbidden said:

Guys, I live in the Lubbock area and was planning on going to this tattoo expo already. Now I'm definitely gonna have to go to check out Maci in person. lol I'll keep ya updated if I do end up going. 

Long time reader, first time poster!

I'm dying to know if you went to the Expo and if you have any insider scoop for us...and by that, I mean, what the hell is that parachute/fancy folded napkin-looking thing on one of her shoulders?!?!

Allow me to preface this post with the following: I love "Ink Master", and appreciate that tattoos have special meaning or are rare pieces of majestic art. I would LOVE to go to a tattoo expo and would gladly pay full price. I respect the artists and their amazing skills. That said, I don't have any ink because it's not something I have ever wanted, and as a high school teacher, I share enough about my life with my students that I don't need to bond with them over body ink. I also think it just straight up looks tacky on a teacher, especially when part of my job is to be a "role model", which means dressing in a professional manner to model what appropriate clothing looks like when these kiddos are released into the GenPop in a few years. I wouldn't have a job if I was inked up like Maci, Kailyn, or even Brianna with that God awful new-to-me forearm tattoo with her mom's name on it. Love that she can afford to do that (I'm assuming she paid for at least part of it unless it was advertised on her SM, but I don't participate in SM because I don't want my students Googling me and finding out that I spent a weekend evening at home on these boards laughing my arse off), yet she doesn't have a stamp to send in the child support forms for Devoin! 

I have meetings with parents/guardians who are inked up from head to toe and I have to admit, the open minded Democrat in me cringes when I meet them because I can't stop staring at their ink when I should be talking about their student. I'm way too distracted! I'll be honest: it's hard to take a parent seriously when they're tatted up like our beloved Teen Moms. I'm a proud Democrat who teaches "the low income" kids who all get free lunch, yet their parents come to meetings with iPhone 7s, fresh ink and their nails did. (that's when I really DO judge!)

The harsh reality is that if I had visible tattoos and I was being interviewed for a job, I would NOT be hired. I'd have to hide any tattoos until I had tenure (2-3 years depending on the state), and even then, my job isn't guaranteed because California sucks at balancing the education budget.  I see enough teachers dressing in rumpled shirts, flip flops, messy buns, and faces plastered with make up, but enough about my male colleagues!  We don't need to add tattoos to the overall appearance of a teacher to further disparage our reputation of not being taken seriously because we get three months off each summer.  For the record, it's only eight weeks! :)

It's vital that teachers of ALL grades dress like a professional to remind kiddos that we ARE professionals even though we don't have an office job. My personal "no visible tattoos on a teacher" stance is a total double standard since I admire well done and gorgeous tattoos, but I know and I admit it!

My point, and I swear that I have one, is this: Maci is busy with the t-shirt business and whatever other home stuff she does, but I hope she knows how lucky she is to have the option to work from home because I don't know how employable she'd be based on all that damn ink, especially since she was/is a Comm major. When/if she ever earns her BA, even local TV stations won't hire her. It's sad and not fair is she's the most qualified for the gig, but I've yet to see it happen, unless someone here can prove me wrong - and I would love for that to happen. Seriously! I hope I am wrong!  Same thing for Kailyn, who wants to be ON TELEVISION for the rest of her life AND to be taken seriously. Do these people think about their futures - oh Lord, I can't even finish that sentence because I know how lame I sound.....

I just wish they'd think about how they might be limiting their employment options once this shit show wraps up in another 40 years by getting tattooed to the point where they are running out of room! 

Side note: we were told in our Teacher Cred program that if anyone had any visible tattoos, they had to cover them up during student teaching. I had a friend who had a tattoo on her ankle and she had to wear long pants every day during a VERY warm spring in San Diego and she was beyond miserable.  Same thing for a lot of male student teachers; they had to wear long sleeved shirts and were miserable.

Future employment/having to work is something that I always wonder about when young people commit to something so permanent! Obviously there are exceptions for certain professions/vocations: hair stylists, make up artists, anyone who is lucky enough to be their own boss - y'all are smart, so I know you get it. 

On 8/11/2017 at 11:33 PM, monicageller said:

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/maci-bookout-baby-bump-pregnancy-speculation-photo-teen-mom-og/

I know some people's computers don't like RadarOnline, so here's the article:
 

And the picture in question:

I think she's just wearing a floaty tee-shirt and a gust of wind must've moved the shirt when the photo was snapped. Although, her boobs look larger than normal to me. NOT that I spend my time checking her out. (I need a Mr. Bridget - let me know if you find him please!) I've never been pregnant, so for those of you who have, is that a "symptom" of the early stages of pregnancy?

Edited November 3, 2017 by Bridget
spelling and stuff

[teapot]

7 hours ago, Bridget said:

 

Side note: we were told in our Teacher Cred program that if anyone had any visible tattoos, they had to cover them up during student teaching. I had a friend who had a tattoo on her ankle and she had to wear long pants every day during a VERY warm spring in San Diego and she was beyond miserable.  Same thing for a lot of male student teachers; they had to wear long sleeved shirts and were miserable.

 

I say get a small hidden tat "just for you" if you really want one;  you deserve it!!!!

[kokapetl]

I think the tattoos speak for themselves. 

“Bullet proof” that looks like “butter proof”. Bookout spelled with cupcakes. Trite sayings in yet more inscrutable script that is highly unlikely to resemble her own handwriting. And on her back. I wonder how often she thinks about the tattooed cupcakes she can’t see.

[Birdee]

43 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

I think the tattoos speak for themselves. 

 

“Bullet proof” that looks like “butter proof”. Bookout spelled with cupcakes. Trite sayings in yet more inscrutable script that is highly unlikely to resemble her own handwriting. And on her back. I wonder how often she thinks about the tattooed cupcakes she can’t see.

As the not-so-proud owner of a questionable (and even alcohol related!) backpiece, I'm gonna say not that often. Half of the time, I forget it's there. I only think about it when buying a bathing suit or my husband makes fun of me.

[LBS]

2 hours ago, Birdee said:

As the not-so-proud owner of a questionable (and even alcohol related!) backpiece, I'm gonna say not that often. Half of the time, I forget it's there. I only think about it when buying a bathing suit or my husband makes fun of me.

I have two dolphins swimming in a perpetual circle* on the lower left (or is it right) side of my back that I've never seen unless I have a mirror or I chase around in a circle like a dog trying to catch its tail.   I bet Maci forgets about her hideous tattoos until she sees it.

*18 years old wannabe hippie + being away in college and really in astrology + pot - commonsense = a dumb ass permanent reminder of youth

[Birdee]

2 minutes ago, LBS said:

I have two dolphins swimming in a perpetual circle* on the lower left (or is it right) side of my back that I've never seen unless I have a mirror or I chase around in a circle like a dog trying to catch its tail.   I bet Maci forgets about her hideous tattoos until she sees it.

*18 years old wannabe hippie + being away in college and really in astrology + pot - commonsense = a dumb ass permanent reminder of youth

Man, I wish my tattoo was as classy as swimming dolphins (seriously!). I have the Jagermeister logo smack-dab in the center of my back. Ku-lassy. But, yeah, it's just not that big of a deal to me. I don't see it and neither does anyone else. And if I had to choose between getting a few questionable tattoos and getting a few STDs and baby daddies, I'd go with the tattoos every time.  

[LBS]

8 minutes ago, Birdee said:

I have the Jagermeister logo smack-dab in the center of my back.

LMAO @birdee  My freshman year my group of girlfriends would only drink jager shots to pre-game and for some dumb reason (read jager shots) we'd yell out 'Yay for Jager' if a cute boy walked by and '  the beer is foamy" if an ugly boy walked by.  You brought back some pretty fun, random memories!

 

13 minutes ago, Birdee said:

And if I had to choose between getting a few questionable tattoos and getting a few STDs and baby daddies, I'd go with the tattoos every time.  

WORD!  Cheers to that!

[AmandaUnbidden]

@Bridget the expot isn't until February but if I end up going, I'll definitely update y'all over here. 

As for the tattoo discussion, I understand your views on them. In our society, people tend to associate tattoos with trashiness, partiers, rebels, etc. We have an idea in our mind of what a teacher should look like and tattoos don't usually come to mind. 

That being said, I always try to question my beliefs and views and decide if they make sense or if they are something I truly agree with.

To me, tattoos are just another form of art and self expression. I try not to make an immediate judgment call on a stranger just because they have tattoos. There are devout Christians that get tattoos to honor God or tattoos of scriptures they want to carry around with them always.

I have a few tattoos myself and do not regret them and plan on getting more. I also used to teach elementary school (I'm now back in school working on a change in career path to counseling). My tattoos I have currently are very easy to cover up. One is behind my ear, one on my back, one one my wrist, and one on my finger. When I was teaching, I would cover the one behind my ear with makeup, and the wrist one with a bracelet or watch, and the finger one with a ring.

I do take my future career into consideration when getting tattoos. Right now I'm wanting one on my forearm but I know it will be annoying to cover up. I'll have to either wear long sleeves or take forever putting that tattoo cover up makeup on it before work so still haven't decided if I'm getting it or not.

I really wish tattoos were more accepted in the work place. I do think it's getting there. I think as long as your tattoo has no words that could be deemed offensive, nudity, violence, etc, you should be able to have them uncovered. Of course, I know that is up to the company or place of work.

Anyway sorry to be so long winded, you just brought up some interesting thoughts that got me thinking. BTW, welcome! Glad to have you here! 

On 11/3/2017 at 4:29 PM, Birdee said:

Man, I wish my tattoo was as classy as swimming dolphins (seriously!). I have the Jagermeister logo smack-dab in the center of my back. Ku-lassy. But, yeah, it's just not that big of a deal to me. I don't see it and neither does anyone else. And if I had to choose between getting a few questionable tattoos and getting a few STDs and baby daddies, I'd go with the tattoos every time.  

Just read this and love that you have that tattoo! That must have been one wild night! I think even not so great tattoos can still be a great memory, and there is always tattoo cover ups. I don't know though. If I had your tattoo, I might just keep it just for the fun of being able to tell the story of getting it and to be able to shock people when my back is showing. lol

[Emkat]

My god that is a hideous selection of tattoos. "Buffet proof" and WTF was she thinking with that cupcake monstrosity?

[Birdee]

On 11/4/2017 at 4:48 PM, AmandaUnbidden said:

Just read this and love that you have that tattoo! That must have been one wild night! I think even not so great tattoos can still be a great memory, and there is always tattoo cover ups. I don't know though. If I had your tattoo, I might just keep it just for the fun of being able to tell the story of getting it and to be able to shock people when my back is showing. lol

That's the way I look at it. I had a long road of bad decisions that led me to where I am in life. My crappy tattoo is a reminder of who I was then and the person I am now can laugh at it.

[lexiexx]

The part that confuses me the most about that back piece monstrosity is how the fuck they couldn't even get all of the words onto the paper.   What is the point of having a giant piece of paper tattoo if all of the random stuff you want to write on that piece of paper doesn't even fit?  

[druzy]

[EmeraldGirl]

I think Maci and Chelsea are the only ones on this franchise who are going to be ok in life. And they’re the two with the scariest first time around baby daddies. Adam was always a lost cause, but Ryan was just douchy and immature. Now he and the new Mrs. are downright mean and scary. 

And since it’s the holiday season - Taylor looks just like a Who in Whoville.

Edited November 22, 2017 by EmeraldGirl

[Tatum]

Weird...why was Maci like, struggling to say what Ryan said in his texts? It seemed like she was searching for the right words, but she ended up quoting what he said directly (notice the emphasis on "have to").

 

This is why Maci annoys me. She makes a big show like she's trying to be the bigger person and phrase things in a mature way, when she chose to have that conversation on camera. (Or agreed to have the conversation at the producer's prompting to further her storyline). The theatrics with struggling to find the words to explain Ryan's texts are just unnecessary.

[AmandaUnbidden]

@Tatum I think maybe Maci was struggling with the right words to say because she knows her relationship with Larry and Jen is in trouble due to outing Ryan and his addiction issues. I do, honestly, think Maci values her relationship with them and would like to repair it so even though Ryan was being out of line again and probably texting her some really terrible things, she didn't want to completely drag him so that she didn't make Jen and Larry even more angry. 

I'm not saying Maci is perfect or anything or that she doesn't have her own issues but I really think she got the raw end of the deal regarding Ryan's whole addiction mess. I really don't think she saw him often enough to know how bad he was so when producers or whoever informed her of the driving scene, she decided she needed to address it on the show. It's not Maci's fault that Ryan has an addiction or that he has acted like he has. I think Jen, Larry, and Mac placed a lot of their anger on her for "exploiting" Ryan on the show because they couldn't place their anger where they really wanted to place it, on Ryan, because he was sick with the addiction and they knew they needed to support him at that time. That's just how I see it though. 

On another note, I've never really had a problem with Taylor's beard before. I'll admit, I dig the whole hipster beard look but, damn! Taylor  is looking rough! He needs to get himself back over to that barber shop he used to always hang out in and get that shit groomed! 

[Enya Face]

On 11/2/2017 at 11:25 PM, Bridget said:

 

My point, and I swear that I have one, is this: Maci is busy with the t-shirt business and whatever other home stuff she does, but I hope she knows how lucky she is to have the option to work from home because I don't know how employable she'd be based on all that damn ink, especially since she was/is a Comm major. When/if she ever earns her BA, even local TV stations won't hire her. It's sad and not fair is she's the most qualified for the gig, but I've yet to see it happen, unless someone here can prove me wrong - and I would love for that to happen. Seriously! I hope I am wrong!  Same thing for Kailyn, who wants to be ON TELEVISION for the rest of her life AND to be taken seriously. Do these people think about their futures - oh Lord, I can't even finish that sentence because I know how lame I sound.....

 

Totally not trying to prove you wrong (and also aware I am 20 days late in replying to this,) I do have a friend who works as a HS physics teacher and is covered in tattoos. She generally wears pieces with higher necklines or three quarter length sleeves, but it does not hide everything. Her bosses and students are all aware of them. I know it's not the same as being the local weather gal, or something, but I thought it was worth noting since it sounds like you're a teacher yourself!

[Bridget]

3 hours ago, Enya Face said:

Totally not trying to prove you wrong (and also aware I am 20 days late in replying to this,) I do have a friend who works as a HS physics teacher and is covered in tattoos. She generally wears pieces with higher necklines or three quarter length sleeves, but it does not hide everything. Her bosses and students are all aware of them. I know it's not the same as being the local weather gal, or something, but I thought it was worth noting since it sounds like you're a teacher yourself!

I welcome your information - please!! :) It's what I'd like to think most of are here for! Again, I LOVE Ink Master and have seen so many beautiful pieces of artwork. I am definitely not anti-tattoo.

I do teach high school, you called it! The only teachers I know who can get away with tattoos are those who highly qualified to teach "difficult to hire positions" (like physics), teach in a totally relaxed area where it's OK (aka the parents aren't going to leave Back to School Night only talking about tattoos) or who have 10+ years of tenure.

To be totally honest, it's hard getting a teaching job in SoCal because the dinosaurs refuse to retire, so I'm always the youngest one on campus who isn't a student at the school. I also don't work with many teachers who have tattoos, but the teachers that I have seen/worked with who do have visible tattoos (we're talking wrist, feet and hands) spend more time talking to the students about tattoos, meanings, best ways to care for them, cost, and pain levels than teaching the actual lesson for the day.

I would never imply that tattoos = bad teacher, but it's a natural conversation topic, I agree. Every teacher has their "bird walking moments", especially with the older kids. I'd be curious to know if your teacher friend talks to her kiddos about her tattoos and if so, what is the gist of the conversation? Does she take time to explain the meaning? Do the kids ask her about them before they themselves opt to get inked? I am so curious because I've never had that experience before. Although, being in the science field + tattoos = one of the hardest classes on earth instantly becomes much more accessible to students. I bet her students love her/her class and by default, do much better in her class than they would in anyone else's. If you can, please ask her about her success rate. I bet she's got a great group of kiddos!

I just know that the minute I would even think about getting my astrological sign (Pisces) inked on my big toe, I'd be hauled into my boss's office for a "professional dress" conversation. The dinosaurs are also in Administration too! :)

I really do welcome the feedback - seriously! I wish you nothing but the best for a wonderful Thanksgiving and holiday season!

[Tatum]

9 hours ago, AmandaUnbidden said:

@Tatum I think maybe Maci was struggling with the right words to say because she knows her relationship with Larry and Jen is in trouble due to outing Ryan and his addiction issues. I do, honestly, think Maci values her relationship with them and would like to repair it so even though Ryan was being out of line again and probably texting her some really terrible things, she didn't want to completely drag him so that she didn't make Jen and Larry even more angry. 

I'm not saying Maci is perfect or anything or that she doesn't have her own issues but I really think she got the raw end of the deal regarding Ryan's whole addiction mess. I really don't think she saw him often enough to know how bad he was so when producers or whoever informed her of the driving scene, she decided she needed to address it on the show. It's not Maci's fault that Ryan has an addiction or that he has acted like he has. I think Jen, Larry, and Mac placed a lot of their anger on her for "exploiting" Ryan on the show because they couldn't place their anger where they really wanted to place it, on Ryan, because he was sick with the addiction and they knew they needed to support him at that time. That's just how I see it though. 

On another note, I've never really had a problem with Taylor's beard before. I'll admit, I dig the whole hipster beard look but, damn! Taylor  is looking rough! He needs to get himself back over to that barber shop he used to always hang out in and get that shit groomed! 

But these people have so much time during filming where they are NOT being filmed. Maci could've easily told Taylor about the texts off camera.

And she likely did.

My suspicion is, the producers asked her to tell Taylor again while on camera to use the scene as a machination to move the storyline. Which means Maci knew well in advance of the prompted scene and what she was going to say. So the dramatic pauses and the visible struggle to find the right words was purely theater. 

[lexiexx]

Maci didn't get the raw deal here.   She lucked out actually, because Ryan's drug problem is the focus, instead of Maci and Taylor's alcohol problem.    It seems that Ryan is away from Bentley while he's on drugs, but where are Maci's three kids when all of the alcoholic fighting is going on?   She wants to give as much info about Ryan as possible, she knows airing the dirty laundry is what allows her to shove all those kids in daycare, and "work" from home selling t shirts.  

She was basically handed a storyline and also a cover for her own fucked up lifestyle.   Then she can go on the reunion shows and do her slow blinking victim martyr act.   She loves that, if there's one thing Maci loves to do it's give herself a pat on the back.   Can't wait until she gets the Catelynn/Tyler edit where they show what a mess her life really is.

Edited November 23, 2017 by lexiexx

[MistyMeg]

3 hours ago, lexiexx said:

Maci didn't get the raw deal here.   She lucked out actually, because Ryan's drug problem is the focus, instead of Maci and Taylor's alcohol problem.    It seems that Ryan is away from Bentley while he's on drugs, but where are Maci's three kids when all of the alcoholic fighting is going on?   She wants to give as much info about Ryan as possible, she knows airing the dirty laundry is what allows her to shove all those kids in daycare, and "work" from home selling t shirts.  

She was basically handed a storyline and also a cover for her own fucked up lifestyle.   Then she can go on the reunion shows and do her slow blinking victim martyr act.   She loves that, if there's one thing Maci loves to do it's give herself a pat on the back.   Can't wait until she gets the Catelynn/Tyler edit where they show what a mess her life really is.

What more can I say???  You got it in a nut-shell. She is so sly and spiteful....I am also convinced that she is still "in love" with Ryan!!! She only wanted to be friends with Mac so that she could have  a bitch fest about Ryans parents with someone. I f mac had said anything against them you can bet Maci would have made sure they knew about it. I hope for the kids sake that this marriage works itself out...but I don't see it. 

[Calm81]

@lexiexx I hope this season MTV gives Maci the special Edit that Cateynne, Leah (TM2) have gotten. It’s only fair to the others girls that each cast member gets to have the world see their true colors.

I’m over the “what would Maci do?” Persona she likes to show. I never bought into the idea of Maci being the all knowing one. She’s a good mom, I will give her that but she doesn’t have her shit together the way she likes everyone to believe. 

Her shit looks kind of together because MTV has been able to pay for it. And she can sit down with her “I have three businesses” because that was provided to her thanks to MTV, too! Do you HONESTLY believe people would be swarming for those ugly pocket shirts if she wasn’t on TV or her books? This is a girl that took 8 years to NOT get so much as an associates degree while attending classes.

She’s an alcoholic with the most monotonous voice. I’m over this ginger on a constant binger.

[Caracoa1]

I'm wondering if the Edwards Family had to ask a year in advance to have any visitation with Bentley during the upcoming holiday season....

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

On November 23, 2017 at 7:04 AM, lexiexx said:

Maci didn't get the raw deal here.   She lucked out actually, because Ryan's drug problem is the focus, instead of Maci and Taylor's alcohol problem.    It seems that Ryan is away from Bentley while he's on drugs, but where are Maci's three kids when all of the alcoholic fighting is going on?   She wants to give as much info about Ryan as possible, she knows airing the dirty laundry is what allows her to shove all those kids in daycare, and "work" from home selling t shirts.  

She was basically handed a storyline and also a cover for her own fucked up lifestyle.   Then she can go on the reunion shows and do her slow blinking victim martyr act.   She loves that, if there's one thing Maci loves to do it's give herself a pat on the back.   Can't wait until she gets the Catelynn/Tyler edit where they show what a mess her life really is.

 

On November 23, 2017 at 11:01 AM, MistyMeg said:

What more can I say???  You got it in a nut-shell. She is so sly and spiteful....I am also convinced that she is still "in love" with Ryan!!! She only wanted to be friends with Mac so that she could have  a bitch fest about Ryans parents with someone. I f mac had said anything against them you can bet Maci would have made sure they knew about it. I hope for the kids sake that this marriage works itself out...but I don't see it. 

 All this. St. Maci of Budlight is walking a fine line here because she needs Ryan's addict storyline and to deflect from her own beer-soaked problems....but she needs to keep Jen & Larry on her good side so they'll babysit and won't expose her drinking. 

Hey Mackenzie! After Ryan has been "clean" for a while, there's your storyline! Sober Ryan worries about his son & son's half-siblings who are being cared for by Our Lady of Light American Corporate Beer Bongs and her Whoville beer delivery man husband....  

Also, Maci is starting to look older than her mom. Maybe because Sharon doesn't smoke, uses sunscreen, and drinks liquids besides alcohol. 

Edited November 26, 2017 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[AmandaUnbidden]

On 11/23/2017 at 5:31 AM, Tatum said:

But these people have so much time during filming where they are NOT being filmed. Maci could've easily told Taylor about the texts off camera.

And she likely did.

My suspicion is, the producers asked her to tell Taylor again while on camera to use the scene as a machination to move the storyline. Which means Maci knew well in advance of the prompted scene and what she was going to say. So the dramatic pauses and the visible struggle to find the right words was purely theater. 

I didn't even think about how the scene was probably prompted by the producers so she had time to think about what she was going to say. That makes sense but I don't think she was acting in her responses. 

Now in regards to Maci getting a good edit, that could definitely be the case. And before I go on, I just want to make clear that I am not trying to defend her. I think a lot of good points have been made about Maci and her drinking throughout this thread. And you all might be completely right about her. Hell, she could be worse than any of us imagined. Who knows? 

There's just a few things I don't understand about the theory of her being a raging  alcoholic. For one, I've never seen her appear even remotely buzzed on screen. Yes, we see her with a constant beer in hand but you would think that she would slip up every now and again on camera and appear, at least, a little tipsy. But maybe she does and those scenes just end up on the cutting room floor.

Also, if she is this fall down drunk, how is she taking care of her kids so well? They all appear to be well adjusted, and Maci and Taylor seem to interact well with them. 

And I agree that Maci must have been drinking during her pregnancies but maybe she was just one of those idiots that believes you can drink while pregnant as long as you limit it to one. If she was only having one drink occasionally, that would explain her getting lucky and her babies being born healthy. I really don't believe she was getting drunk constantly while pregnant because one of those babies would've had to be born with FAS. Surely. It makes more sense that she was stupidly having a drink here and there lowering her chances of the babies being hurt by it.

I think Maci might have a problem with alcohol. She might be one of those weekend drinkers that only has a drink or two when the kids are home but goes crazy on the weekends. I could see that happening, and that's definitely a problem if it's affecting her marriage. I just don't think she hits the bottle as soon as MTV is out the door and proceeds to drink until she passes out, kids be damned. 

Of course, like I said, I could be wrong, and she could be that bad. I would just be really shocked if that were the case. I do think she is getting a good edit, and that there's a lot we don't see but I think some things are hard to fake like the way she acts on screen with her kids and others, etc. These girls are not that good of actresses. I think we'd see through it if her interactions with her kids were forced or fake. YMMV of course and probably does. lol These are just the thoughts I have with regards to Maci. 

 

EDITED: I just wanted to add that I definitely have to go to that tattoo expo and try to find her! I'll have to get close enough to see if she wreaks of booze and how she acts. lol I'm unsure of my own perceptions after visiting the Farrah thread and seeing a video of her acting human. Makes me really wonder more if what we see regarding Farrah and Maci is a product of editing. Did Farrah just piss them off so they only show her worse moments but they party with Maci so skip her's? I'm losing my mind y'all! ?

Edited November 27, 2017 by AmandaUnbidden
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[Tatum]

11 hours ago, AmandaUnbidden said:

I didn't even think about how the scene was probably prompted by the producers so she had time to think about what she was going to say. That makes sense but I don't think she was acting in her responses. 

But if she knew what she was going to say, why the reason for the hesitation? I think it was a show of reluctance so she looks like the nice girl that doesn't want to bash her ex, despite her actually knowing hours ahead of time that she would be having this conversation on camera. It's just all for show for her.

11 hours ago, AmandaUnbidden said:

 

Now in regards to Maci getting a good edit, that could definitely be the case. And before I go on, I just want to make clear that I am not trying to defend her. I think a lot of good points have been made about Maci and her drinking throughout this thread. And you all might be completely right about her. Hell, she could be worse than any of us imagined. Who knows? 

There's just a few things I don't understand about the theory of her being a raging  alcoholic. For one, I've never seen her appear even remotely buzzed on screen. Yes, we see her with a constant beer in hand but you would think that she would slip up every now and again on camera and appear, at least, a little tipsy. But maybe she does and those scenes just end up on the cutting room floor.

Also, if she is this fall down drunk, how is she taking care of her kids so well? They all appear to be well adjusted, and Maci and Taylor seem to interact well with them. 

And I agree that Maci must have been drinking during her pregnancies but maybe she was just one of those idiots that believes you can drink while pregnant as long as you limit it to one. If she was only having one drink occasionally, that would explain her getting lucky and her babies being born healthy. I really don't believe she was getting drunk constantly while pregnant because one of those babies would've had to be born with FAS. Surely. It makes more sense that she was stupidly having a drink here and there lowering her chances of the babies being hurt by it.

Well, the incident that got people talking was when she was taking multiple shots at an MTV/Teen Mom event in December 2015, when it was later discovered she was about 14-15 weeks pregnant with Maverick. Her excuse was she didn't know she was pregnant. Well, her first story was that she had been on birth control, didn't have any symptoms, and that's why she didn't know. Her follow up story was that she actually hadn't been on birth control, she was going to her gyno to get BC, when she found out there that she was pregnant and in her second, almost third, trimester. Google pictures of her from Dec 2015 and you can see she clearly has a pregnancy belly. Google pictures of her from Aug 2015 at Cate's wedding, and you can see she is a tiny size 0 with no gut to speak of. So, someone who has been pregnant twice, who is currently having unprotected sex, all the sudden gains 5-10 pounds, all centered in the mid section, and it does not occur to her that she's possibly pregnant? That was met with some pretty serious skepticism. And sure, people can gain weight from non pregnancy reasons, but when you are having unprotected sex, you get that shit checked out immediately. That's what mature adults do. 

 

I actually don't think Maci gets a good edit. I don't think production has hours of footage of screaming drunk fights and other bad behavior that they have chosen not to expose. I think Maci self edits, and would rather appear on camera without her 30 pounds of foundation and eyeliner than fight with Taylor while the cameras are on. The crew films something like one week a month for 6 months.

 

These girls could easily hide a lot of bad behaviors, which makes people all the more incredulous that the other girls still appear to be such hot messes on camera.

[GreatKazu]

Maci is looking so damn rough in her reunion scenes tonight. She looks like a guy with make-up and a long wig on. 

Maci is really pushing the TTM company with her wearing a sweatshirt and the producer wearing a t-shirt. 

TTM...Tequila and Tattoos matter

[Birdee]

8 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Maci is looking so damn rough in her reunion scenes tonight. She looks like a guy with make-up and a long wig on. 

Maci is really pushing the TTM company with her wearing a sweatshirt and the producer wearing a t-shirt. 

TTM...Tequila and Tattoos matter

I agree! I didn't really notice how old she looked when compared with her co-stars (and I use that term lightly), but when compared to the fresh-faced Keelie, she really looks like she was rode hard and put up wet. 

[FairyDusted]

All of OGs look haggard to me.

[Scarlett45]

@AmandaUnbidden I believe that Macy may be a functioning alcoholic or that she may have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol. There are MANY people who are able to function (work, pay their bills, care for their kids), but are alcohol dependent. The combination of her behaviors around alcohol lead me to think this. This wasn’t a woman who had a glass or two of wine a few times during her pregnancy, she was drinking TO GET DRUNK on the regular. Now do I think she would drink and drive or drink and neglect her kids- no I don’t but there’s something going on there. 

 

Ryan being more of a mess certainly deflects from her own problems. I don’t think Maci is an awful person (like Amber or anything), but she doesn’t seem to be the tinest bit self aware. 

[alexa]

9 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

@AmandaUnbidden I believe that Macy may be a functioning alcoholic or that she may have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol. There are MANY people who are able to function (work, pay their bills, care for their kids), but are alcohol dependent. The combination of her behaviors around alcohol lead me to think this. This wasn’t a woman who had a glass or two of wine a few times during her pregnancy, she was drinking TO GET DRUNK on the regular. Now do I think she would drink and drive or drink and neglect her kids- no I don’t but there’s something going on there. 

 

Ryan being more of a mess certainly deflects from her own problems. I don’t think Maci is an awful person (like Amber or anything), but she doesn’t seem to be the tinest bit self aware. 

I agree with this.  I think Maci is pretty harmless and never fully understand all of the Maci hate, however over time I do agree that if she didn't have an issue with alcohol she would be drinking less of it by now...  typically when you have a family, are busy with kids, etc, alcohol plays a much smaller role no matter how young you are (and still close to the party age).  You grow out of the "party" stage much more quickly than that if you have a normal relationship with alcohol, and have a family to keep you busy.  And of course I didn't agree with her drinking so much while pregnant.  

The fact that they have alcohol sitting around at all times of the day and on a regular basis is just kind of strange.  Most people just don't do that--they have a drink out at dinner, or maybe occasional wine or beer at home, not bud light cans being a permanent decor in their home.

[GreatKazu]

7 minutes ago, alexa said:

I agree with this.  I think Maci is pretty harmless and never fully understand all of the Maci hate, however over time I do agree that if she didn't have an issue with alcohol she would be drinking less of it by now...  typically when you have a family, are busy with kids, etc, alcohol plays a much smaller role no matter how young you are (and still close to the party age).  You grow out of the "party" stage much more quickly than that if you have a normal relationship with alcohol, and have a family to keep you busy.  And of course I didn't agree with her drinking so much while pregnant.  

The fact that they have alcohol sitting around at all times of the day and on a regular basis is just kind of strange.  Most people just don't do that--they have a drink out at dinner, or maybe occasional wine or beer at home, not bud light cans being a permanent decor in their home.

The Bud Light cans decor comment...awesome and spot on.

[Tatum]

49 minutes ago, alexa said:

I agree with this.  I think Maci is pretty harmless and never fully understand all of the Maci hate...

 

 

I'll take this one.

 

Is Maci on the level of Jenelle or Amber when it comes to being a completely useless, infuriating, drain on society (or in Jenelle's case, a menace to society)? No. If Jenelle is our baseline, Maci is fine. She actively parents her kid and held a job at some point, and as far as I know hasn't ever assaulted anyone.

 

That said, is she a likable person? My opinion is no. She's petty, immature, lazy, and a hypocrite.

Edited November 29, 2017 by Tatum

[GreatKazu]

16 minutes ago, Tatum said:

 

 

I'll take this one.

 

Is Maci on the level of Jenelle or Amber when it comes to being a completely useless, infuriating, drain on society (or in Jenelle's case, a menace to society)? No. If Jenelle is our baseline, Maci is fine. She actively parents her kid and held a job at some point, and as far as I know hasn't ever assaulted anyone.

 

That said, is she a likable person? My opinion is no. She's petty, immature, lazy, and a hypocrite.

Thank you. I knew someone would come in and nail it. 

Those qualities Tatum pointed out about Maci, are qualities I detest in people. She sits back, grins, and never once speaks out against anything her co-stars do or say when it comes to their shaming, vile, and sometimes violent behavior. She sits there with that shit-eating grin and sometimes erupts in laughter at their behavior. She doesn't separate herself from their actions which is what I would expect from a young adult mother who should be above that kind of behavior her co-stars constantly engage in. If anything, it shows me what kind of person she truly is. 

I will also add in the fact she did a lot of shaming against Farrah. I can't tolerate people who feel the need to shame someone for doing something that does not harm their child while at the same time keeping her child front and center on a tv show where there are people who engage in drug use, domestic violence, and child neglect.

It was mentioned that Maci has the same friends. All that tells me is they must also be petty, immature, and a bunch of hypocrites who get off on judging other people. 

[alexa]

3 hours ago, Tatum said:

 

 

I'll take this one.

 

Is Maci on the level of Jenelle or Amber when it comes to being a completely useless, infuriating, drain on society (or in Jenelle's case, a menace to society)? No. If Jenelle is our baseline, Maci is fine. She actively parents her kid and held a job at some point, and as far as I know hasn't ever assaulted anyone.

 

That said, is she a likable person? My opinion is no. She's petty, immature, lazy, and a hypocrite.

I knew I should have left that sentence out...it wasn't the focus of what I was posting.... I was focusing on the alcohol part of it all.  I only added that sentence to say that as someone that doesn't normally get involved in the Maci hate, even I can easily agree there is some sort of alcohol issue.  Just posting this as I know why so many people hate her, I just don't personally feel so strongly about it.

[TeenMomAngerMgmt]

I don’t hate Maci. I just think she’s a sanctimonious bitch who can’t back up the shit she talks behind people’s back. When Farrah was brought back she tried to slink away from what she said and I was here for Farrah throwing that in her face. I think Maci enjoys being the fan favorite and kinda leverages it over the other girls, to a certain extent. Farrah seems to embrace (or not be particularly bothered by) her role as villain. I know I’ve said it before, but I love Farrah in the same way I loved New York from Flavor of Love. I would never hang out with either of them. They would both exhaust the fuck out of me. But damn do they make for some compelling TV! 

[Caracoa1]

Maci's parents must be so disappointed in her...if the MTV paycheck never came along I'm sure that Maci (along with a supportive family) would have had more motivation to get her journalism degree and secure a future for herself and Bentley...but sadly that didn't happen.....with all that MTV money being thrown at her at such a young age she went crazy!  She saw that as a way to get away from mom and dad and run her life as only a teenager can dream of...at that age teens know everything!  She bought cars, tattoos, booze, houses, friends....thought herself superior...life is going to hurt for all these girls when the Teen Mom shitshow ends and their money dries up.

[Calm81]

@Caracoa1 I agree.

Also, Maci was so much more likeable to me in the earlier seasons. Her voice wasn’t as annoying and she had that cute shorter haircut.

Now she talks with a I’m better than all of you attitude due to years of camera people hanging on to her every looooooooong word. She used to be an ambitious young woman.  Now she sits at home selling shirts that ONLY have company logo on them thinking she’s at the same level as NIKE and being a drunk Debbie downer. I caaaaaaan’t with Maci anymore. If she would have NEVER signed up for more seasons viewers would still have her on the “what would Maci do?” Pedestal and that’s ruined now. The longer MTV filmed her the less she could hide about how she TRULY is like behind closed doors and turned off cameras.

This show has destroyed all the cast members credibility except for Chelsea. They’re not marketable once the show ends. They basically had a background investigation filmed for any future employer to film instead of running real background checks like most do. What’s worse is they’re not saving their money...the show is coming to an end soon!!! TM2 ratings are even declining and that show is more popular than this one.

[meredithalmighty]

I think it's a  miracle that Maverick has only had minor health issues considering the amount of on-air drinking Maci did during her pregnancy. She did share that he has reflux issues (http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/maci-bookout-maverick-health-132120/photos/catelynn-lowell-novalee-206388) 

I just feel sad for  her.

[Marley]

I didn’t really mind Maci before ..she wasn’t amazing but didn’t seem horrible. Anyways I’m totally over her now. She was texting pretty hard while going pretty fast. It wasn’t even a quick glance which is still not good but she  was full on reading and texting. I’m not a great driver myself I don’t really get how to park lol but I would never text while driving it’s idiotic just wait a few minutes or pull over.

Also not trying to knock on looks cause no one is perfect but this girl needs to invest in some skin care and moisturizer.

Edited December 1, 2017 by Marley

[GreatKazu]

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Also not trying to knock on looks cause no one is perfect

Maci sure knows about knocking people and their looks. I remember her commenting to her friend about Mackenzie's looks and how much older she looks than her age. 

Touching upon Maci's tweeting while driving, Bentley had said out loud to his mom, "Watch!" which makes me think he is so used to his mother having her attention on her phone while driving, that he didn't think it was out of the ordinary to ask her to direct her look at what he wanted her to see. 

 

[mamadrama]

12 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

 

Touching upon Maci's tweeting while driving, Bentley had said out loud to his mom, "Watch!" which makes me think he is so used to his mother having her attention on her phone while driving, that he didn't think it was out of the ordinary to ask her to direct her look at what he wanted her to see. 

 

 

Eh, not that I don't doubt that Maci is regularly on her phone and shit when she's driving but my kids are constantly asking me to turn around and look at them when I am driving. Or, "Here Mommy, read this." I swear, it happens every day. As non-drivers, they're just not aware of what it takes to actually operate a vehicle. 

[Kb60]

On 11/22/2017 at 1:04 PM, druzy said:

Good Lord, stop with the slow talking bullshit, you look so stupid when you do that! Doesn't anyone tell her how stupid she looks?

[Kb60]

On 11/26/2017 at 7:33 PM, AmandaUnbidden said:

I didn't even think about how the scene was probably prompted by the producers so she had time to think about what she was going to say. That makes sense but I don't think she was acting in her responses. 

Now in regards to Maci getting a good edit, that could definitely be the case. And before I go on, I just want to make clear that I am not trying to defend her. I think a lot of good points have been made about Maci and her drinking throughout this thread. And you all might be completely right about her. Hell, she could be worse than any of us imagined. Who knows? 

There's just a few things I don't understand about the theory of her being a raging  alcoholic. For one, I've never seen her appear even remotely buzzed on screen. Yes, we see her with a constant beer in hand but you would think that she would slip up every now and again on camera and appear, at least, a little tipsy. But maybe she does and those scenes just end up on the cutting room floor.

Also, if she is this fall down drunk, how is she taking care of her kids so well? They all appear to be well adjusted, and Maci and Taylor seem to interact well with them. 

And I agree that Maci must have been drinking during her pregnancies but maybe she was just one of those idiots that believes you can drink while pregnant as long as you limit it to one. If she was only having one drink occasionally, that would explain her getting lucky and her babies being born healthy. I really don't believe she was getting drunk constantly while pregnant because one of those babies would've had to be born with FAS. Surely. It makes more sense that she was stupidly having a drink here and there lowering her chances of the babies being hurt by it.

I think Maci might have a problem with alcohol. She might be one of those weekend drinkers that only has a drink or two when the kids are home but goes crazy on the weekends. I could see that happening, and that's definitely a problem if it's affecting her marriage. I just don't think she hits the bottle as soon as MTV is out the door and proceeds to drink until she passes out, kids be damned. 

Of course, like I said, I could be wrong, and she could be that bad. I would just be really shocked if that were the case. I do think she is getting a good edit, and that there's a lot we don't see but I think some things are hard to fake like the way she acts on screen with her kids and others, etc. These girls are not that good of actresses. I think we'd see through it if her interactions with her kids were forced or fake. YMMV of course and probably does. lol These are just the thoughts I have with regards to Maci. 

 

EDITED: I just wanted to add that I definitely have to go to that tattoo expo and try to find her! I'll have to get close enough to see if she wreaks of booze and how she acts. lol I'm unsure of my own perceptions after visiting the Farrah thread and seeing a video of her acting human. Makes me really wonder more if what we see regarding Farrah and Maci is a product of editing. Did Farrah just piss them off so they only show her worse moments but they party with Maci so skip her's? I'm losing my mind y'all! ?

I think she was probably drinking in that scene with Taylor. Seems like she didn't remember how to talk, it just looked so bizarre tome. Taylor looked buzzed too.

[Calm81]

6 hours ago, Kb60 said:

Good Lord, stop with the slow talking bullshit, you look so stupid when you do that! Doesn't anyone tell her how stupid she looks?

I knooooooooooooooooow!!!!! I used to date this guy for a few loooooong years and one of his flaws was that he was an incredibly slow walker and an even slower talker. 

He’ll be telling me something and my self-diagnosed ADD self would be wondering if someone ate the last pickle in my jar.

By the last few months of our relationship (where EVERYTHING annoys you) he was telling his regular spiel and I yelled out “Will you JUUUUUSSSSTTTT for the love of cheese and rice friggin SPIT IT OUT ALREADY!!!!!!!” And I NEVER yell at people. ?

Gaaaaaawd. It took me YEARS to finally tell him that his dramatic pauses and his slow syllables was the main reason people didn’t invite us out on double dates. He was a sweet guy but daaaaaamn. I know he could actually talk faster he just ENJOYED having peoples undivided attention a bit longer than others received not knowing it backfired on him. Because NOBODY wanted to listen to him about anything at that point  - lol, they’d even joke with me (after we broke up) that they get nervous about asking him for the time (before smartphones). ???

I don’t know if Maci does it for the extra attention or she’s just unable to spit it out. But I’m sure Taylor is at the stage in marriage where her slow talking isn’t as cute and adorable as it was in the beginning lmao!!! Poor Taylor.

Edited December 2, 2017 by Calm81
Autocorrect placed “take” in the spot of “date” and it would’ve made my post really confusing

[Maharincess]

On 11/30/2017 at 3:59 PM, GreatKazu said:

Maci sure knows about knocking people and their looks. I remember her commenting to her friend about Mackenzie's looks and how much older she looks than her age. 

Touching upon Maci's tweeting while driving, Bentley had said out loud to his mom, "Watch!" which makes me think he is so used to his mother having her attention on her phone while driving, that he didn't think it was out of the ordinary to ask her to direct her look at what he wanted her to see. 

 

Is that a tattoo of a hot air balloon? Why?  What could be the reason for a tattoo like that? 

That's the second time recently that I've seen a woman with a hot air balloon tattoo on her arm. The other one is some chick from The Challenge. 

[AmyFarrahFowler]

38 minutes ago, Maharincess said:

Is that a tattoo of a hot air balloon? Why?  What could be the reason for a tattoo like that? 

That's the second time recently that I've seen a woman with a hot air balloon tattoo on her arm. The other one is some chick from The Challenge. 

It's supposed to represent freedom, achievement and happiness. I just thank heaven that it isn't a Bud Light bottle.

[DangerousMinds]

Lol what has Maci ever achieved?

[MaddyMaeboxerbabe]

Two miracle babies!!

[GreatKazu]

2 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Lol what has Maci ever achieved?

Exactly.

She achieved finally getting a guy, any guy, to finally marry her skanky ass. 

To  me, I thought Maci's halting way of speaking has to do more with the camera being there in her face. I think at times she is trying to be careful of what she will say or how to say it. Although, it could be just her way of speaking and I am completely wrong in my assessment. 

You know, Maci, you wouldn't be receiving "vulgar and threatening" text messages from Ryan if you had gone to the courts and filed for an emergency order regarding visitation. With Ryan going to rehab, you have a case. Ryan is not in a healthy place right now and you have the footage of him driving under the influence. A temporary order, at least, would have benefitted you from receiving such texts and demands from Ryan, and most of all, it would benefit Bentley so that he is not being exposed to Ryan just yet. The order would be set in stone and it would have given Ryan that much-needed boundary that should have been placed long ago. Giving in to an addict who has just come out of rehab is not going to help them or the child in the long run. Ryan needs to know he can't have things just fall immediately into place the way he wants. He has to build trust and right now, Bentley has to trust the people in his life to do right by him. Shit, Bentley can't even trust his mother to get him from point A to point B without putting him in danger with how she drives.