S09.E06: Showdown at the Hoedown

[Lisin]

Tension simmers between Heather and Shannon in the wake of their dispute over seating at a dinner. Elsewhere, Vicki struggles with her daughter's decision to move; and Heather throws a hoedown bash, where a mechanical-bull mishap creates drama.

[SuzWhat]

My DVR did not record a new episode Monday. Did I miss it? If they skipped a week, I wonder why? I'd expect them to skip next Monday's due to Memorial Day.

Edited May 20, 2014 by SuzWhat

[b2H]

General consensus was, there is a massive amount of re-editing going on because some of the storylines are so bad they want to change them up to be a little more palatable before they lose more audience than they have with this franchise.  

 

Last night, they showed the 100th episode with all the participants being interviewed as to how the show affected their lives, including the kids who all agreed they were heinous on the show and how the blowback regarding their behavior on the show has been pretty horrendous.  Examples - when Shane (I think that's the kid's name) was on the baseball team and treated Jeana so badly when she came to see him play - the entire baseball team got hate mail after that episode, including patrons saying as long as he was playing for them, they wouldn't be back to support the team.

 

He's no longer playing baseball, but is an 'actor'.  Please.

[Muffyn]

 I hate to admit this, but I agree with Tamra - Eddie could be one of The Village People.

[SuzWhat]

Tamra was in full shit-stirring mode this episode. At first I thought it was just editing, but then she tried to start something between Vickie and Lizzie after making sure Heather and Shannon would fight all episode.

[ihartcoffee]

General consensus was, there is a massive amount of re-editing going on because some of the storylines are so bad they want to change them up to be a little more palatable before they lose more audience than they have with this franchise.  

 

Last night, they showed the 100th episode with all the participants being interviewed as to how the show affected their lives, including the kids who all agreed they were heinous on the show and how the blowback regarding their behavior on the show has been pretty horrendous.  Examples - when Shane (I think that's the kid's name) was on the baseball team and treated Jeana so badly when she came to see him play - the entire baseball team got hate mail after that episode, including patrons saying as long as he was playing for them, they wouldn't be back to support the team.

 

He's no longer playing baseball, but is an 'actor'.  Please.

 

Shane deserves all that he gets.  He was so nasty to his mother.  

 

 I hate to admit this, but I agree with Tamra - Eddie could be one of The Village People.

 

That was too funny!

Tamra was in full shit-stirring mode this episode. At first I thought it was just editing, but then she tried to start something between Vickie and Lizzie after making sure Heather and Shannon would fight all episode.

She was shit stirring, for sure!

[Higgins]

That episode sucked. I'm with Vicki, snort , snort, zzzzz.

[sandyskyblue]

I was a serial lurker (never posted) over at twop, and completely enjoyed all of the snark over there!!  I'm sorry they are shutting twop's doors and I hope all the wonderful and talented posters over there will soon be here...that being said, I felt like I needed a shower after Monday's episode...right off the bat, one of the Dubrow-lets slipping her dad the tongue (yikes!) and all the gross 'riding' comments from Eddie and David to the ho-wives during the mechanical bull part...yeeesh...

Best part: we find out (or it's edited to look like) Heather is a Liar Face!!

Edited May 27, 2014 by sandyskyblue

[coloradoqt]

Editing or not, Heather was shown at the controls while someone, I think Terry said," Heather is at the controls". Heather also said "make it go faster" or words to that effect, maybe"speed it up". She does blow things out of proportion. Making every thing with the wide eyes and O-shaped mouth more dramatic. But I could not believe she did not own up to the speed the bull was turned up. Her speed was not nearly as fast as Tamara's.  

[jnymph]

I don't understand these people that have small children at alcohol fueled parties.

On another note just one small example of how those bitches make mountains out of molehills.......

David doing a shot with Megan & Shannons jealous reaction - if Mr jnymph was doing a shot at a party with a pretty woman, I'd walk up POLITELY, introduce myself & join in the fun. Its a party for gods sake not time to chastise your husband. Maybe I'm naive but I didn't even take it that David was hitting on her .... Light flirting ?? Maybe. But so what?

And on a 3rd note

A party for breaking ground on your over the top obscene mansion? That's pretentious.

[Ubiquitous]

I guess this season is Heather's turn for the season's "bitch edit". I loved the flashback clip that disproved Hewather's claims about Shannon in the previous ep and I did find it interesting that her reaction to Shannon (but not the others) being late is to retribute by being late for their next party, if they even bother to go. And then there's her micromanaging of their ownblown hodown...

 

I noticed Shannon was in fishwife mode with her husband as well. Geez, no wonder he stayed so long at basketball practice!

 

I had the feeling Tamra gave Lizzie some ad advice on dealing with Vickie. I guess she doesn't want the competition.

 

Lastly, did Vicki's feigned ignorance about Lizzie's ancestry reminded you of one of Peter Griffin's porno stories?

[Lisin]

The fact that Vicki didn't remember that Lizzie is Italian and her father has a lot of Native American in him made me giggle, because she's the one that asked the question the first time. Vicki is an idiot. I mean how many episodes have we watched her do tequila shots but before she does the shot she has to scream "do we lick it, slam it, suck it? Suck it, lick it, slam it? What order? How do we do this?!" every.damn.time. I mean I maybe she's black out drunk a lot and that's the issue. 

[Shut Your Legs Kim]

I just re watched the bull scene. Heather is an ass!

[Persnickety1]

 

I don't understand these people that have small children at alcohol fueled parties.

 

That stupefies me as well.  I've nothing against drinking and enjoy my fair share of prosecco, but this was an event at noon.  Noontime and already serving up shots?  At what is supposed to be a family-friendly event?

 

Yeah, not getting that.  If this were an evening event and it was all adults, I'd totally be fine with it, but between the open bar and grown men yelling sexual comments at the women riding the bull, I was totally skeeved out that there were kids in attendance.

 

On another note, Heather has apparently stated that she was drunk on champagne and didn't even remember making the comment about turning up the bull; on the other hand, she also maintains she was only joking.

 

Well, which is it, Fancy Pants?  Were you drunk off of your expensive "champs," or were you joking?  I don't think you can have it both ways.  

[Shut Your Legs Kim]

Heather must think that everybody, with the exception of herself and Terry, are dumber than a sack of potatoes! Its all on camera Fancy Pants. What is seen cannot be unseen.

[Giselle]

I just re watched the bull scene. Heather is an ass!

She always has been. For someone so hung up on manners and doing the proper thing her actions show that she must have flunked out of etiquette school.

[Persnickety1]

 

Heather must think that everybody, with the exception of herself and Terry, are dumber than a sack of potatoes! Its all on camera Fancy Pants. What is seen cannot be unseen.

 

I just realized what your screen name is.

 

You owe me a keyboard now, lol!  

[Shut Your Legs Kim]

I got the name from the leg openings of the Kim's! Zolciak and Kardashian.

Also, I have never seen someone throw so many self centered events as the Dubrows. And having people that don't seem to genuinely like you write well wishes to put in your foundation? Who knows if fancy pants will even be a housewife of OC much longer

[LadyBug76]

The fact that Vicki didn't remember that Lizzie is Italian and her father has a lot of Native American in him made me giggle, because she's the one that asked the question the first time. Vicki is an idiot. I mean how many episodes have we watched her do tequila shots but before she does the shot she has to scream "do we lick it, slam it, suck it? Suck it, lick it, slam it? What order? How do we do this?!" every.damn.time. I mean I maybe she's black out drunk a lot and that's the issue. 

 

Gawd, Vickie is so transparent in every move she makes. The thing with Lizzie was to make her feel insignificant -- "Sorry, you're not important enough for me to remember anything about you. I can't even get your name right, how can you expect me to get your family heritage." And the "lick it-slam it-suck-it" thing is purely attention seeking. It's her little boozy party trick she pulls to get attention from "boyz" when sticking out her boobs and butt isn't working. She thinks it makes her look sexy when she talks about licking and sucking. No, Vicks, it just shows people how shrill and obnoxious you can be.

 

p.s. Yay for first posts! Formerly known as BizzyBee76 on TWOP. So sad to see it close, but happy to be here. Cheers to new beginnings, and RIP TWOP. 

Edited May 31, 2014 by LadyBug76

[FozzyBear]

I'm not a big fan of "telling it like it is" or "just being honest". I have a tendency to think that keeping my mouth shut is a basic adult lifeskill. I have no problem with the idea that there are many, many situations where I don't need to even have an opinion, let alone express it. However, I could not handle the many melt downs of Shannon. God she gets her feeling hurt easily.

[SunTheen]

I couldn't be around someone like Heather or Shannon for too long without having issues with keeping my mouth shut. Worked with someone like Shannon, high strung, always emasculating her husband in public, and generally complaining about life. She sucked the life out of everyone wherever she went.

Tamra looks like a rat, every season, but this season she is starting to look facially like Laurie. If she doesn't lay off the Botox soon, she will turn into Laurie 2.0.

What was up with Heather feigning innocence on how fast the bull went when Tamra fell off? She totally said "go faster, speed it up"...or was I dreaming this?

[motorcitymom65]

What was up with Heather feigning innocence on how fast the bull went when Tamra fell off? She totally said "go faster, speed it up"...or was I dreaming this?

No, you weren't dreaming. She absolutely said it. The editing looked strange to me, however. You couldn't see who was on the bull or what was going on. Tamra said in her blog that she rode the bull 5 times. Actually, she said most of the folks rode the bull multiple times. For all we know Heather said it about someone else or the first time Tamra got on. For her part. Heather's explanation is just confusing on her blog. She knows she said it, but doesn't really remember saying it, and if she did it was a joke. Or she was drunk. Oh, and she wanted us to know that the operator didn't speak English anyway so he wouldn't have been able to understand what she was saying. Her trying to find a way to explain this makes about as much sense as when the Countess tried to explain away her pirate on the NY show. Don't they know the cover up is always worse than the crime?

[Persnickety1]

 

For her part. Heather's explanation is just confusing on her blog. She knows she said it, but doesn't really remember saying it, and if she did it was a joke. Or she was drunk. Oh, and she wanted us to know that the operator didn't speak English anyway so he wouldn't have been able to understand what she was saying. Her trying to find a way to explain this makes about as much sense as when the Countess tried to explain away her pirate on the NY show. Don't they know the cover up is always worse than the crime?

 

Ain't that the truth.

 

And we know these women certainly aren't above pulling the "IT WAS THE EDITING!!!" card, so I was surprised Heather didn't just try to play it off as the editing monkeys hard at work to make her look bad.

 

Heather grates on my last intact nerve.  She and Terry are really coming across as beyond arrogant this season.  It's not a good look for them.

 

And I've had a bit of a bitter aftertaste in my mouth ever since I heard Terry call Coco a "little bitch."

[ghoulina]

And I've had a bit of a bitter aftertaste in my mouth ever since I heard Terry call Coco a "little bitch."

 

You and me both. I know he was trying to be funny, but there is nothing that could make me utter those words about my 3-year-old. I feel badly for Coco when she eventually sees that scene.

[Satchels of gold]

Hi everyone so glad to see familiar names here. Thanks to PT for taking us in. I think ladybug is 100 percent correct Vickie was showing Lizzie exactly where she stood with her. Are we to believe that Vickie hasn't heard about Lizzie a hundred times before filming? C'mon !

[Ubiquitous]

I have never seen someone throw so many self centered events as the Dubrows. And having people that don't seem to genuinely like you write well wishes to put in your foundation?

I coudn't but wonder what was written on some of those notes and if the Dubrows went thru them so there weren't any negayive vibes in their motel and motorcourt's foundation.

[KicksandGiggles]

I enjoyed this episode even though we had to endure endless whining; "she was late", "she said I hate her", "she hates me", "she snored", blah, blah, blah. Champagne troubles anyone? Boo-frickin'-hoo.

 

I am enjoying this new cast. I think that Shannon and Lizzie are both great additions. I would love to have an opinion about Danielle, but I don't think she has spoken more than 2 words this entire season. I know that we saw her this episode, but did she actually say anything? I think I may have seen her dancing?

 

I also liked the ground-breaking Ho-Down party. I don't care that it was ridiculous and over-the-top. This is what I tune in for; obnoxious, self-indulgent, over-the-top parties and gatherings. It's not something I ever seem to see in real life, and I enjoy the extravagance of it all. I think my favorite part was Lizzie's talking head where she said she liked dancing because that meant there was no talking! I couldn't agree more Lizzie.

[charming]

I'm kind of surprised that these women allow themselves to be played like this. The "someone is late" tantrums that they have is silly considering the interference from producers. If I were on a show like this and someone was late to a taping event with no text, I would remain calm knowing that I was being provoked.

 

Heather just makes herself look ridiculous with her constant nitpicking and overreaction to everything. God woman, learn to freaking relax.

[Higgins]

I would call my toddler a bitch. Not to her face but, to my husband? in a minute. The word doesn't bother me at all. It would be the same as calling her a brat. No big deal.

[Matteo]

My favorite part of the episode was Vicki's TH about the shots with David, Shannon, and Megan where Vicki says that she would be jealous too if her husband was doing shots with two "hot" women and didn't bother to introduce or include her.  Yes, because I would be so jealous of "hot" Vicki Gunvalson trying to steal my man...

 

Shannon looks like she's gonna end up bringing the crazy as the season progresses.  Heather can be so over-the-top, but I still don't mind her too much, and I do think they are laying the villain edit on her pretty thick this season, so I'll cut her some slack for the moment, at least.

[motorcitymom65]

I would call my toddler a bitch. Not to her face but, to my husband? in a minute. The word doesn't bother me at all. It would be the same as calling her a brat. No big deal.

I agree. It didn't bother me in the least. For me it is all about the context. He was laughing about her and her silliness at home, where we had just seen him playing with her. If he had been lounging around on the couch wearing a wife beater and swilling vodka from the bottle and angrily called her a bitch for asking for a snack or a drink, I would probably change my opinion. He seems to clearly adore her so I don't think there is much need for this to cause her any long term harm. I noticed when he came home from work and the girls were all in the kitchen with Heather, everyone was thrilled to see daddy come home. That is a good sign to me.

[Lady Grump]

You know what I am sick of? Status concious assholes who vomit out the, "I have such a blessed life, and I am so greatful, and I just want to SHARE that with people!"

 

First of all, if that were truly the case, you wouldn't have the zoolander model of your "future home" for everyone to oggle over at your dirt pit. If you were just in it for the "emotion" -- you would have had that party at your rental house.

 

Second of all, you wouldn't get pissed at someone for showing up an hour late because of  kid sport obligations. Full stop.

 

Hey Dubrows: You're not nearly as compasionate, kind, or unaffected as you think, we think, you are.

 

And by the way, Heather, when you need to do things like you're little show-off party, it's obvious that you're an unfulfilled, unahppy person. We see that. You're not fooling anyone. Kisses, dahling.

 

OH! And Vickie's a straight up racist.

Edited June 1, 2014 by Lady Grump

[Chit Chat]

 

First of all, if that were truly the case, you wouldn't have the zoolander model of your "future home" for everyone to oggle over at your dirt pit. If you were just in it for the "emotion" -- you would have had that party at your rental house.

I wondered how the neighbors really felt about having a hoedown in their neighborhood.  I'm sure the word 'tacky' came to mind! 

Thanks for welcoming us newcomers from our previous site!  I am happy to have found you all.  Much appreciated.

Edited June 2, 2014 by ChitChat

[starrynola]

You know what I am sick of? Status concious assholes who vomit out the, "I have such a blessed life, and I am so greatful, and I just want to SHARE that with people!"

 

First of all, if that were truly the case, you wouldn't have the zoolander model of your "future home" for everyone to oggle over at your dirt pit. If you were just in it for the "emotion" -- you would have had that party at your rental house.

 

Second of all, you wouldn't get pissed at someone for showing up an hour late because of  kid sport obligations. Full stop.

 

Hey Dubrows: You're not nearly as compasionate, kind, or unaffected as you think, we think, you are.

 

And by the way, Heather, when you need to do things like you're little show-off party, it's obvious that you're an unfulfilled, unahppy person. We see that. You're not fooling anyone. Kisses, dahling.

 

OH! And Vickie's a straight up racist.

Heather and Terry come off as so miserable.  I can just imagine them sitting up in bed at night plotting and gloating over making other people jealous.  I still can't tell how the kids are affected by their dour personalities.  But, that "little bitch" CoCo is super cute.

 

So far, I'm actually liking Shannon.  She brings something new to the show, and has a weird Camille Grammer vibe.  Maybe it's just the similar haircut/fake nose.  I think she and her husband get along better then they put on for the cameras.  There has got to be some sort of understanding there--no way she sleeps with him and no way he's just celibate.  I don't think he's gay though.

 

Is the Danielle girl going to be a RH? or is she a FOTH?  Still confused about her role.  She's pretty, I wish they'd bring her on as a friend for Dizzy Lizzy Izzy.

 

Tamara's son is straight up crazy.  No if's ands or buts.  He seems so demonic to me and when he flares his nostrils it reminds me of some sort of animal.  Can't put my finger on it.  Eddie doesn't want to have kids with her bc she's done such a poor parenting job with all the kids she already has.  I really hope they don't try to make that storyline happen.

[Matteo]

Danielle is a "Friend of the Housewives," I'm pretty sure.  I remember hearing that they were adding three new wives when filming for this season began, and she was lumped in with Shannon and Lizzie, but she must've ended up being the least interesting or not causing enough drama to get full "Housewife" status.

 

 

Heather and Terry come off as so miserable.  I can just imagine them sitting up in bed at night plotting and gloating over making other people jealous.  I still can't tell how the kids are affected by their dour personalities.  But, that "little bitch" CoCo is super cute.

I think Coco is so cute! I'll take the "little bitch" if Terry doesn't want her!  Actually, from what little we've seen, I think Terry and Heather's kids seem pretty intelligent and well-adjusted.  Hopefully, they can remain that way!

[CentralTexas]

I noticed Terry staring at Tamra when she got on the bull, he had a huge pervy grin on his face, I bet Heather will not miss that when she watches the episode.

Lizzie...I don't see anything attractive about her, she looks like a Bratz doll to me. Let this be her only season.

Edited June 2, 2014 by CentralTexas

[charming]

Lizzie thinks it's a smack in the face for someone to think she's Mexican? Or was it because she told Vicki she was Italian? It was a strange TH. I don't know why I feel about that.

 

How does Vicki think snoring at the table when someone is speaking is funny? What a lunatic.

[The Solution]

A couple of random thoughts:

 

1. Was Vicki seriously wearing white denim shorts with thigh cut-outs, much like one would see in Bayonne, New Jersey circa 1987? #theseshortsweremeantforayoungersmallerwoman,amirite?

 

2. PLEASE tell me someone left a note for the Dubrow's time capsule that said something to the effect of "Please choke on a big bag of dicks".

[ghoulina]

Lizzie thinks it's a smack in the face for someone to think she's Mexican? Or was it because she told Vicki she was Italian? It was a strange TH. I don't know why I feel about that.

 

I think she was offended because she had previously told Vicki what her ethnicity was, but Vicki couldn't be bothered to remember. Just like with her name - Izzie? Lizzie? It just shows Vicki's general "fuck all" attitude about anyone outside of herself. And what was worse, after Lizzie corrected her Vicki kept insisting that Lizzie had told her she was Mexican. Why would she say she was something she wasn't??? Vicky is just whacky and rude. 

 

2. PLEASE tell me someone left a note for the Dubrow's time capsule that said something to the effect of "Please choke on a big bag of dicks".

 

Oh man, if I were there I would have spent the entire party writing some amazing "well wishes" for those pompous asses. But I bet they probably read them all beforehand and tossed any that didn't properly powder their rear ends. 

[dangwoodchucks]

What a hypocrite Shannon is. She says she doesn't need to be scolded by Heather, but she has no problem scolding her husband (who looked hot at the hoedown btw) in front of others. Shannon seems so overly sensitive where Heather is concerned, it reminds me of Chief Inspector Dreyfus from the Pink Panther movies. I'm expecting Shannon's eye to start twitching when someone says 'Heather' the way Dreyfus' did when someone said 'Clouseau'.

 

That harsh sunlight made Vicki, Tamra and Shannon's faces look like leather. Couldn't Heather have had tents, my eyes still hurt from looking at their wrinkly mugs.

 

I noticed that when Heather mentioned Shannon was yelling at her on the way back to the table during chairgate, Tamra and Vicki didn't dispute that had happened. Heather was right to get up and leave when Vicki started her snoring shit. It has nothing to do with not having a sense of humor Vicki, you're just rude and obnoxious. Bitch.

 

I don't know what really went down at bullgate, the editing was wonky. All I know is there was a ho down.

 

Coco looked adorable in her western attire. Tamra and Vicki look hideous in that bright pink lipstick in their THs.

[Emme]

Man, those Terry Dubrow genes are pretty damn evident in that one daughter - Max, the twin maybe? She looks exactly like her dad.

[UsernameFatigue]

Wow, I have never been a Heather fan, but this epi just sealed the deal for me that this is one 'mean girl'. So many things, I don't know where to start.

 

First of all, I am appauled that this woman has daughters. The extended scene in the kitchen where she goes on and on to Terry - in front of her daughters - about what happened at the restaurant was just disturbing. Way to raise the next generation of mean girls, Heather. I am not saying that Heather wasn't right about being annoyed at what happened, but to discuss it ad nausuem in front of your daughters is not responsible mothering to me.

 

I was trying to remember the reason for the Dubrows last big party at their last big house. I was thinking it was a housewarming, but then remembered cakegate and that the party was to celebrate Heather changing her name to Dubrow. Seriously, these are two of the most self absorbed people I have ever seen. And loved the jar where the peons could write their best wishes for the continued good fortune and obnoxiousness of the Hibrows - I mean Dubrows.

 

The only thing funnier was the model of the house that only Terry and the kids seemed to care about viewing, Hilarious.

 

Why was Heather so upset about about Shannon being late, but didn't say a word to Vicki? Of course, it is because Vicki would tell her to pound sand, so she would not get away with bullying Vicki.

 

So does Tamra find out (before the show airs) that Heather was the person who told the guy operating the bull to turn up the speed? And had the nerve to say he should be fired, when he was following her orders.

 

Heather Dubrow is her own special brand of evil.

Edited June 4, 2014 by UsernameFatigue

[Shut Your Legs Kim]

Heather really needs to take the pointy edged stick out! Being so snooty and uptight all of the time has got to drain the fun right out of life. How would she deal if something horrible (yes, even worse than someone being late to a self idolization hoe down) ever happens in her perfect world? Such as a gigantic earthquake shattering her mansion to the foundation?

[Persnickety1]

 

I wondered how the neighbors really felt about having a hoedown in their neighborhood.  I'm sure the word 'tacky' came to mind!

 

If I were the people living in that house whose windows were literally right on top of that fence line, Bravo would have had a whole lot of work editing my big-assed head hanging out of my window, watching these chucklefucks going after each other, a martini in one hand and my e-cig in the other.  Best free entertainment EVER.  

[motorcitymom65]

And loved the jar where the peons could write their best wishes for the continued good fortune and obnoxiousness of the Hibrows - I mean Dubrows.

 

 

 

The best part of that episode was Tamra's smart ass comment about rich people burying stuff in the ground.  Shannon had also said at her dinner party that they did the same thing when they built their house, as they also had a groundbreaking ceremony to show off their good fortune.  

[Giselle]

I coudn't but wonder what was written on some of those notes and if the Dubrows went thru them so there weren't any negayive vibes in their motel and motorcourt's foundation.

You know they went through them and only buried the good ones lest the children dig them up later and realize that  mommy and daddy have always been social assholes.

Edited June 5, 2014 by Giselle

[UsernameFatigue]

Unfortunately from what I have seen, they are raising their kids to be social assholes as well. Heather and Terry have no problem discussing their petty problems with others in front of the kids.

Edited June 4, 2014 by UsernameFatigue

[SuzWhat]

@CentralTexas - I totally agree on pervy stare by to Terry at Tamara. I am sure it will be explained away by editing...

[tinaw]

was trying to remember the reason for the Dubrows last big party at their last big house. I was thinking it was a housewarming, but then remembered cakegate and that the party was to celebrate Heather changing her name to Dubrow. Seriously, these are two of the most self absorbed people I have ever seen. And loved the jar where the peons could write their best wishes for the continued good fortune and obnoxiousness of the Hibrows - I mean Dubrows.

I believe last year was the "I changed my name to dubrow. Ypu ate my bow" fiasco Edited June 5, 2014 by Lisin
fixed quote. Don't need the / in the first set of brackets

[Persnickety1]

 

@CentralTexas - I totally agree on pervy stare by to Terry at Tamara. I am sure it will be explained away by editing...

 

Flashback to the mud race in which they competed in their first season on the show.

 

As I recall, Terry was exceptionally enthusiastic when hosing down the mud from Tamra.

 

Hmmmmm...