Season 10 Spoilers, Speculation and Social Media

[Kohola3]

Wow, they must be getting desperate.

[Sandy W]

9 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

I don’t know anything about this realtor but I always question when Kody doesn’t seem like sleaziest guy in the video.    Also, why isn’t Mona their realtor?  (I would say Janelle or Christine but I’m trying to be serious)

Mona is the broker that kept Janelle and Christine on her roster of salespeople despite Christine never actually being employed there.  Janelle I believe, had one sale in the 5 years of her real estate career.  Mona is also the one that advised the houses would sell almost immediately, it took an outside broker to get the houses to a more realistic price range and now Robyn's has sold.

[Galloway Cave]

27 minutes ago, lma said:

You never know what people have to do to get that money.

Or what they will do to avoid paying it out. Like, maybe, four bankruptcies in one fambly....

[deirdra]

I imagine Kody ending up like Jan Michael Vincent in 20 years.

[Irate Panda]

9 minutes ago, deirdra said:

I imagine Kody ending up like Jan Michael Vincent in 20 years.

Are you talking about his hair, losing his looks, dead?  I don’t care for Kody  but from what I read Jan Michael Vincent was a woman beater, so as much of an asshat as Kody is I’m confused by the comparison.

[deirdra]

5 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

Are you talking about his hair, losing his looks, dead? 

And moneyless, friendless, hopeless after a life of bad choices. Kody does not beat his women physically, but he emotionally abuses and controls them and many of his kids and is too much of a narcissist and misogynist to notice.

Edited March 10, 2019 by deirdra

[smarty]

Mona did give them some good advice: she told them to put the walls up between their back yards.

[ginger90]

2 minutes ago, smarty2020 said:

Mona did give them some good advice: she told them to put the walls up between their back yards.

Walls 👀

[deirdra]

14 minutes ago, smarty2020 said:

Mona did give them some good advice: she told them to put the walls up between their back yards.

Necessary, of course, but I wonder how much that cost.  I'd also think the new owner would want their family tree (hand-printed into the concrete of the back porch) jackhammered out or covered up with tile, stone or fresh concrete.

Edited March 10, 2019 by deirdra

[Irate Panda]

28 minutes ago, deirdra said:

And moneyless, friendless, hopeless after a life of bad choices. Kody does not beat his women physically, but he emotionally abuses and controls them and many of his kids and is too much of a narcissist and misogynist to notice.

I understand the comparison more now....I do think Kody is narcissistic but find all of them emotionally abusive and/or manipulative towards each other with the possible exception of Christine.  The most confusing one to me is Janelle.  I didn’t watch this show from the beginning but weren’t Meri, Christine and I think Robyn born into Polygamy?  Did they ever explain how Janelle went from Meri’s brother to Kody’s wife?  She seems like something is not quite right with her (like dead behind the eyes). 

[eskimo]

I'm thinking they thought their 'celebrity' would make their homes more valuable.  They need to be realistic about the value of their homes, and the value of their celebrity. 

[xwordfanatik]

35 minutes ago, eskimo said:

I'm thinking they thought their 'celebrity' would make their homes more valuable.  They need to be realistic about the value of their homes, and the value of their celebrity. 

The Brown Clowns and realistic cannot appear in the same sentence.  It's the snarker's law.  Or something.

They think very highly of themselves, and a lowly monogamist like me can't relate.

[Maire]

After watching the most recent episode it’s clear they must be operating in the red. All the Vegas mortgages, taxes, Flagstaff rentals, Flag staff land mortgages (did I hear him say he’s putting 10% down?) then trying to build plus bring utilities in? What a living nightmare they have created. I would love to know the actual amounts.

[Tuxcat]

Really hate to harp on this issue - but please confirm their income? They get TLC money. Meri has clothing company and bed and breakfast (but also debt). Robyn has a failing online jewelry business. Janelle had strive but also failing and she's gaining weight. What does Christine do? What does Kody do? This doesn't add up. How can they afford to make this stupid move?

[deirdra]

2 hours ago, Maire said:

After watching the most recent episode it’s clear they must be operating in the red. All the Vegas mortgages, taxes, Flagstaff rentals, Flag staff land mortgages (did I hear him say he’s putting 10% down?) then trying to build plus bring utilities in? What a living nightmare they have created. I would love to know the actual amounts.

So would I.  Kodoofus offered 75% of the asking price (after the land had been on the market for over a year with no buyers) and I expect installing all of the utilities will cost as much or more than the amount they "saved" with the low-ball offer. That will probably be the subject of a future episode, with Kody running around and tearing out more of his hair.

[SunnyBeBe]

Okay, I went back 5 pages and didn't find this, so if it's been discussed, please pardon me.   I was more surprised to see that Mitch has another family member who has been on reality tv show, his sister, Vanessa,  Seeking Sister Wife on TLC.  (I actually watched that show.)

https://www.yourtango.com/2019322098/who-is-mitch-thompson-new-details-about-aspyn-brown-husband-sister-wives

My question is, is Mitch the son of Lynn A. Thompson, the AUB President, and father of Rosemary, who appeared on My Five Wives (TLC).  Rosemary was one of some other girls who made abuse allegations against her father Lynn A. Thompson.  I can't find a list of Lynn Thompson's children, so, I don't know how they are related. 

[Sandy W]

12 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Okay, I went back 5 pages and didn't find this, so if it's been discussed, please pardon me.   I was more surprised to see that Mitch has another family member who has been on reality tv show, his sister, Vanessa,  Seeking Sister Wife on TLC.  (I actually watched that show.)

https://www.yourtango.com/2019322098/who-is-mitch-thompson-new-details-about-aspyn-brown-husband-sister-wives

My question is, is Mitch the son of Lynn A. Thompson, the AUB President, and father of Rosemary, who appeared on My Five Wives (TLC).  Rosemary was one of some other girls who made abuse allegations against her father Lynn A. Thompson.  I can't find a list of Lynn Thompson's children, so, I don't know how they are related. 

I think he is the grandson of Lynn A. Thompson.  Someone will be along who knows the relationship to correct me if I'm wrong.

[SunnyBeBe]

5 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

I think he is the grandson of Lynn A. Thompson.  Someone will be along who knows the relationship to correct me if I'm wrong.

If he is the son or grandson of Lynn A. Thompson, I can see why Kody and family are so wild about Mitch.  I've been curious as to why the family seemed happier at Aspyn's wedding, than any other I have ever seen them, including Robyn's. lol

[Marshmallow Mollie]

On 3/10/2019 at 6:36 AM, Joan of Argh said:

Yup same here... I wouldn't want any of their houses.

Not to mention all the damage due to wear and tear..... In the last episode I paused and zoomed in a few times and all the drywall walls had gouges and dings everywhere plus some of the corners were dented and metal exposed so you wouldn't be able to walk in and give it a new paint job.... You'd have to do a BUNCH of preparation, filling, sanding and primer.

I zoomed in on the cabinets and they're really badly chipped and scraped... Who knows what else is wrong. 🙄

What?! What are you talking about? Of course those houses are taken care of! There are five adults, none with full-time job, so of course they did daily cleaning, and monthly cleaning of the bigger projects, and annual spring cleaning. I am sure they kept up with general maintenance. I am sure as soon as someone wondered if a shower was leaking, etc, if they didn’t all hop up to fix it themselves, they immediately called a plumber. See: their fleet, their storage of Christmas lights, Janelle’s recliner, Janelle’s feet, hiring a realtor to sell homes when there are two in the family, their ability to scrimp and save so they have money available for emergencies or even money available to fix up their homes so they sell quickly since they are asking for top dollar.

[druzy]

Sorry if this has been asked and answered. Since Janelle, Robyn and Christine's LV deeds are/were all in their individual names and Kodi was only on Meri's deed (as a married couple) are the new deeds in Flagstaff going to be the same (except change out Meri for Robyn). Why weren't the house's put in a family trust? Also why the hell are they moving?

[Roslyn]

1 hour ago, druzy said:

Sorry if this has been asked and answered. Since Janelle, Robyn and Christine's LV deeds are/were all in their individual names and Kodi was only on Meri's deed (as a married couple) are the new deeds in Flagstaff going to be the same (except change out Meri for Robyn). Why weren't the house's put in a family trust? Also why the hell are they moving?

...trees

[SunnyBeBe]

There has been speculation as to why they moved. Some of it about Dayton attending school in Flagstaff and needing the support of his family, so the entire family had to move, but, that's not how it was presented on the show.  On the show, it was presented that Kody always envisioned leaving Vegas as it wasn't a family place to raise children, plus, the value of the houses said they should sell now, and they longed for a prettier yard with trees......lol.  I'm not positive, but, I do NOT believe the reasons given on the show. 

[Julia67]

3 hours ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

I zoomed in on the cabinets and they're really badly chipped and scraped... Who knows what else is wrong

Not to mention all the crap all over the place.  Yikes!  

[smarty]

Interesting observation I just made: the 3 lots they were looking at on Cottonwood Drive in Flagstaff were taken off the market in January.  I wonder if that was in any way tied to the Browns?

[Pickleinthemiddle]

16 hours ago, deirdra said:

So would I.  Kodoofus offered 75% of the asking price (after the land had been on the market for over a year with no buyers) and I expect installing all of the utilities will cost as much or more than the amount they "saved" with the low-ball offer. That will probably be the subject of a future episode, with Kody running around and tearing out more of his hair.

Yes installing utilities can be costly depending where you plan to build.  My brother is selling his property that he planned on retiring to.  He has a small house built on the property, but it not finished on the inside.  Just to run electric from the nearest neighbor was going to be close to $60K as all lines have to be buried now.  

[Pickleinthemiddle]

7 hours ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

What?! What are you talking about? Of course those houses are taken care of! There are five adults, none with full-time job, so of course they did daily cleaning, and monthly cleaning of the bigger projects, and annual spring cleaning. I am sure they kept up with general maintenance. I am sure as soon as someone wondered if a shower was leaking, etc, if they didn’t all hop up to fix it themselves, they immediately called a plumber. See: their fleet, their storage of Christmas lights, Janelle’s recliner, Janelle’s feet, hiring a realtor to sell homes when there are two in the family, their ability to scrimp and save so they have money available for emergencies or even money available to fix up their homes so they sell quickly since they are asking for top dollar.

My cousin has had a professional house cleaning business for years.  She said few people actually know how to clean a house properly.  Which is why you might see a crew of 2-4 people to clean one house.  It take that many people about 4-5 hours sometimes 8 to get a house in order the first time around.  

[SunnyBeBe]

14 minutes ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

My cousin has had a professional house cleaning business for years.  She said few people actually know how to clean a house properly.  Which is why you might see a crew of 2-4 people to clean one house.  It take that many people about 4-5 hours sometimes 8 to get a house in order the first time around.  

I believe it.  The last time I moved, I hired movers, but, did the clean up of the house and YARD myself.  HUGE mistake.  I gave myself 5 days to do it, and it wasn't enough!  I did it after work and during the evenings.  I worked until late in the night.  Slept on a portable mattress on the floor.  I cleaned from the ceilings to the floors, baseboards, light fixtures, windows (inside and out), inside window seals, porch, deck, etc.  I have NEVER been so tired in my life. Never again.  I will hire next time. But, it was the way I wanted it and that was perfection.   

[Pickleinthemiddle]

11 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I believe it.  The last time I moved, I hired movers, but, did the clean up of the house and YARD myself.  HUGE mistake.  I gave myself 5 days to do it, and it wasn't enough!  I did it after work and during the evenings.  I worked until late in the night.  Slept on a portable mattress on the floor.  I cleaned from the ceilings to the floors, baseboards, light fixtures, windows (inside and out), inside window seals, porch, deck, etc.  I have NEVER been so tired in my life. Never again.  I will hire next time. But, it was the way I wanted it and that was perfection.   

It's a good business to be in if you don't have much competition in the area.  My cousin makes a little over 6 figures every year.  And a coworkers wife makes about $80K a year.  But all of her clients are doctors, lawyers or in the financial field.  

[SunnyBeBe]

22 minutes ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

It's a good business to be in if you don't have much competition in the area.  My cousin makes a little over 6 figures every year.  And a coworkers wife makes about $80K a year.  But all of her clients are doctors, lawyers or in the financial field.  

That's incredible.  I couldn't do it though, because, it's too hard! 

[ginger90]

Is this Christine’s current house?

If so, the taxes are almost $3,000. And......(somehow I doubt this is the interest rate she/they got)

Edited March 12, 2019 by ginger90

[Mollypup]

On 3/7/2019 at 10:56 AM, Gothish520 said:

We really don't know how the conversations went and how the final decisions were made. Call me naive, but I just don't see it as a case of Robyn stamping her feet and demanding that the whole brood move because that's what she and Dayton want and screw the rest of you losers.

I agree with you and I personally do not have a negative opinion of Robyn. However, her reaction to Kody's distress when he was having buyer remorse seemed telling in that she was very worried he was going to change his mind.  I think that she was a voice in the back of his head all along.  

[smarty]

57 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Is this Christines current house?

If so, the taxes are almost $3,000. And......(somehow I doubt this is the interest rate she/they got)

Yes she paid $520,000 for it.

[smarty]

17 minutes ago, Mollypup said:

I agree with you and I personally do not have a negative opinion of Robyn. However, her reaction to Kody's distress when he was having buyer remorse seemed telling in that she was very worried he was going to change his mind.  I think that she was a voice in the back of his head all along.  

My current opinion is Robyn and Kody had been personally/privately talking about moving away from Las Vegas out into the country somewhere where Kody could run a ranch and Sol and Ari could be ranch kids raised on the land, with gardens and animals.  Cue the country music.  I don't think they initially had Flagstaff as the final move location SOLELY BECAUSE of NAU and Dayton -- I think that Dayton chose NAU because Flagstaff fit the ranch life possibility for Robyn and Kody.  

[Teafortwo]

It's kind of churlish to predict bad things, but I don't see them ever building 4 or even 3 homes on the undeveloped land they purchased. I think this is the last season - maybe they'll eke out one more "what happened after the move" or a couple of special "what's happening with the Browns" eps, but that's it. Even if the show were to continue, they just won't have enough money. I see them building 2 houses at most, one each for Janelle and Robyn, Christine stays put, and Meri, who knows? Just keeps renting maybe. She isn't close to the other wives or really any of the kids and she likes the town. Even more likely is that they end up losing the land to foreclosure. It would be tough to sell at a profit, as it was on the market so long before they bought it. Maybe they bring in utilities and then sell developed lots. Or maybe they build a big plyg house on one lot, sell Christine's current Flagstaff house, and try to sell or subdivide the other lots (depending on zoning laws). They are living a pipe dream and for what reason? Sure, move to a new town, safer and cozier than Las Vegas if not more convenient to Utah, rent for awhile while looking for homes to buy. But the huge - and hugely impulsive - leap into buying(k)? Also seems it would have made way more sense for them to move to the Arizona Strip District - the NW corner of AZ that you pass through on the way from Las Vegas to Utah. (Is that where Colorado City is?)  Or even Mesquite. Closer to St. George. 

Edited March 12, 2019 by Teafortwo

[Marshmallow Mollie]

3 hours ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

My cousin has had a professional house cleaning business for years.  She said few people actually know how to clean a house properly.  Which is why you might see a crew of 2-4 people to clean one house.  It take that many people about 4-5 hours sometimes 8 to get a house in order the first time around.  

That’s really interesting. I am a pet sitter, so I run into housekeepers a fair amount. Most of my clients work at the hospital, like @Pickleinthemiddle said, and there is one housekeeping crew in particular that I run into a lot. Our clients must run in the same circles. Anywho, a lot of those houses are the owner wanting me to come in at 10am and 2pm so then when they come home their dog is tired and they can all flop together. In those instances, the housekeeper will be there before my 10am visit and be finishing up when I come back four hours later. That makes a lot of sense that it is more than someone just hiring help, but that they don’t even know what to do. 

To kind of bring it back to topic, I didn’t learn housekeeping as I was growing up, and we can guess at minimum Janelle’s kids don’t know how to deep clean. I was reading a blog post on how to clean baseboards, and there was a comment something like, “I can’t imagine not know how to clean baseboards!” Mkay. Lord, help me if I ever make a snooty comment putting down people who don’t know how to clean a baseboard. Not all of us grew up with a parent or whomever who was a housekeeper and/or did the housekeeping when we saw its being done and/or took the time to show us. 

When I was growing up, my mother did not cook. I don’t mean she wasn’t a good cook, I mean she prepared zero food outside a frozen kids cuisine. In related news, we ate most dinners at my grandmother’s house, but she didn’t want anyone in the kitchen with her, so I didn’t learn to cook until I was out of college. Rachael Ray was my mentor. I turned a recipe into a 30 minute meal tonight in fact 😉

Come to think of it, Janelle’s “nutrition” advice is usually single serving or otherwise meant to be consumed by just her. She had the sheet pan of fajitas that looked like it would serve three people. Nonetheless, it doesn’t seem like she is cooking a lot of family meals with the children gathered round. 

I didn’t mean for this to be quite so long and rambling!

[smarty]

1 hour ago, Teafortwo said:

 Even more likely is that they end up losing the land to foreclosure. It would be tough to sell at a profit, as it was on the market so long before they bought it. Maybe they bring in utilities and then sell developed lots. Or maybe they build a big plyg house on one lot, sell Christine's current Flagstaff house, and try to sell or subdivide the other lots (depending on zoning laws). 

Yeah, I’m trying to guess what the end game will be here.  I can’t see them affording to build 4 houses on the Coyote Pass lots.  But I also don’t see how they will resell those lots and get their money out.  

[Pickleinthemiddle]

14 hours ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

That’s really interesting. I am a pet sitter, so I run into housekeepers a fair amount. Most of my clients work at the hospital, like @Pickleinthemiddle said, and there is one housekeeping crew in particular that I run into a lot. Our clients must run in the same circles. Anywho, a lot of those houses are the owner wanting me to come in at 10am and 2pm so then when they come home their dog is tired and they can all flop together. In those instances, the housekeeper will be there before my 10am visit and be finishing up when I come back four hours later. That makes a lot of sense that it is more than someone just hiring help, but that they don’t even know what to do. 

To kind of bring it back to topic, I didn’t learn housekeeping as I was growing up, and we can guess at minimum Janelle’s kids don’t know how to deep clean. I was reading a blog post on how to clean baseboards, and there was a comment something like, “I can’t imagine not know how to clean baseboards!” Mkay. Lord, help me if I ever make a snooty comment putting down people who don’t know how to clean a baseboard. Not all of us grew up with a parent or whomever who was a housekeeper and/or did the housekeeping when we saw its being done and/or took the time to show us. 

When I was growing up, my mother did not cook. I don’t mean she wasn’t a good cook, I mean she prepared zero food outside a frozen kids cuisine. In related news, we ate most dinners at my grandmother’s house, but she didn’t want anyone in the kitchen with her, so I didn’t learn to cook until I was out of college. Rachael Ray was my mentor. I turned a recipe into a 30 minute meal tonight in fact 😉

Come to think of it, Janelle’s “nutrition” advice is usually single serving or otherwise meant to be consumed by just her. She had the sheet pan of fajitas that looked like it would serve three people. Nonetheless, it doesn’t seem like she is cooking a lot of family meals with the children gathered round. 

I didn’t mean for this to be quite so long and rambling!

To this day I am not the best housekeeper, but that being said my mother taught me how to clean, cook and do laundry to make it look like new most of the time.  Growing up there was no leaving dishes for the next day.  If you were at home all day, they were washed after each meal.  The kitchen floor was swept daily and mopped if it was needed.  Toys and other items were put away before bedtime. 

[Pickleinthemiddle]

15 hours ago, Teafortwo said:

It's kind of churlish to predict bad things, but I don't see them ever building 4 or even 3 homes on the undeveloped land they purchased. I think this is the last season - maybe they'll eke out one more "what happened after the move" or a couple of special "what's happening with the Browns" eps, but that's it. Even if the show were to continue, they just won't have enough money. I see them building 2 houses at most, one each for Janelle and Robyn, Christine stays put, and Meri, who knows? Just keeps renting maybe. She isn't close to the other wives or really any of the kids and she likes the town. Even more likely is that they end up losing the land to foreclosure. It would be tough to sell at a profit, as it was on the market so long before they bought it. Maybe they bring in utilities and then sell developed lots. Or maybe they build a big plyg house on one lot, sell Christine's current Flagstaff house, and try to sell or subdivide the other lots (depending on zoning laws). They are living a pipe dream and for what reason? Sure, move to a new town, safer and cozier than Las Vegas if not more convenient to Utah, rent for awhile while looking for homes to buy. But the huge - and hugely impulsive - leap into buying(k)? Also seems it would have made way more sense for them to move to the Arizona Strip District - the NW corner of AZ that you pass through on the way from Las Vegas to Utah. (Is that where Colorado City is?)  Or even Mesquite. Closer to St. George. 

As the old people would say they put the cart before the horse.  They should have sold the homes first.  Then went and found some land.  I think they have enjoyed living the good life and now would be reluctant to go back to living like they did before the show started.  

[Pickleinthemiddle]

16 hours ago, smarty2020 said:

Yes she paid $520,000 for it.

Goes to show they are paying dearly for the area.  That house where I live, you could buy for about $160K.

[deirdra]

13 minutes ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

As the old people would say they put the cart before the horse.  They should have sold the homes first.  Then went and found some land.  I think they have enjoyed living the good life and now would be reluctant to go back to living like they did before the show started.  

Especially since they need to rent anyways and the land had been on the market for over a year, it is not like it is the one and only site.  Apparently in Arizona they can go to any school, so the district they live in is not important, but having things they rely on - fast food, masseuses, psychologists, ATMs, gasoline, etc. - close at hand is useful in choosing where you want to settle down.

[Delete]

I was reading more about the prairie dog plague, and it is actually the bubonic plague! Idiots were more concerned about removing the CC&R restrictions rather than being concerned about their kids getting the plague! 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/plague-exists-now-us/story?id=55860883

Edited March 12, 2019 by Barbara Please

[Pingaponga]

I understand the need to sell the houses in LV to fund the property/homes in Flagstaff, but since it's taking so long for them to sell, would it not be possible for them to rent them out? At least then they'd have some money coming in that could go against the LV mortgages/the property in Flagstaff/Christine's mortage/the Flagstaff rentals. Or are people not renting houses in LV right now?

And I know Kody has hinted that he wants to build one house for all of them on the property in Flagstaff, but what would be the resale potential of that in Arizona? Is there a polygamist community in and around Flagstaff? Even if they were to build one plyg house and live in it for 50 years, it would still have to be sold at some point in time. When we were renovating our main bathroom we insisted on keeping the tub despite the contractor's strong urging to turf it for a large shower, because we knew that when we end up selling the house we'd lose potential buyers if the house didn't have a tub. It's easy to repaint custom colours when it comes to selling your home, but shouldn't you generally keep in mind what the market may want if you are building a custom home? And a plyg home is very much a custom home.

[Galloway Cave]

1 hour ago, Pingaponga said:

Is there a polygamist community in and around Flagstaff?

Yes, but not a lot of them. That whole "one house for all wives" crap that Kody keeps talking about isn't common. I have seen it more in the Short Crick area than elsewhere. In the town I lived in, the patriarch of the main family built a U-shaped compound, where the arms of the U had apartments for the wives/kids. The bottom part of the U housed the common room and his suite (living room, study, two bed/bath and kitchen). Other plyg families in town had separate houses.

[ginger90]

There could be restrictions in their mortgage agreements regarding renting out the houses.

[suomi]

I am loving this fiasco they created - and I get to watch it play out in real time because of this forum. I pity the viewers who don't access a forum like this because they know very little (or nothing) about the bankruptcies, the family wreaths, Janelle being Kody's sister-in-law as well as his wife, the LV homes being on the market for so long, the asking prices steadily dropping, etc. 

Every time I watch an episode and quite often when reading something here, two of my dear old departed dad's favorite sayings come to mind and I laugh and snort and laugh some more: FUBAR and SNAFU.

Lots of people use the word snafu to describe a messed up situation and don't realize where it came from - WWII US Army slang. "Next week on Sister Wives FUBAR ... " LOL

(Situation Normal All Fucked Up)

(Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition)

[xwordfanatik]

9 minutes ago, suomi said:

I am loving this fiasco they created - and I get to watch it play out in real time because of this forum. I pity the viewers who don't access a forum like this because they know very little (or nothing) about the bankruptcies, the family wreaths, Janelle being Kody's sister-in-law as well as his wife, the LV homes being on the market for so long, the asking prices steadily dropping, etc. 

Every time I watch an episode and quite often when reading something here, two of my dear old departed dad's favorite sayings come to mind and I laugh and snort and laugh some more: FUBAR and SNAFU.

Lots of people use the word snafu to describe a messed up situation and don't realize where it came from - WWII US Army slang. "Next week on Sister Wives FUBAR ... " LOL

(Situation Normal All Fucked Up)

(Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition)

I've used that time-honored saying myself, a time or several.  Along with that, my Mr. Xword has told me the meaning of FNG, which, since I worked with mostly ex-military men at a blue-collar job, I heard also.  

I always try to figure out acronyms before I look them up.  I'm pretty good at it, since as my screen name indicates, I do crossword puzzles every day.  I like to think that it keeps my old brain working.

[Kohola3]

FNG is from my generation, started in the Vietnam war.  

5 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

I've used that time-honored saying myself, a time or several.  

I, too, have used them in different situations.  

The Brown Clowns are poster children for FUBAR.

[suomi]

I think FNG and REM are from the Vietnam era. I love love love crossword puzzles and also do them every day. Are you ink or pencil? (I prefer ink). 

Edited March 13, 2019 by suomi
Kohola3 beat me to the Vietnam mention

[xwordfanatik]

5 minutes ago, suomi said:

I think FNG and REM are from the Vietnam era. I love love love crossword puzzles and also do them every day. Are you ink or pencil? (I prefer ink). 

Yes, Mr. X served in Vietnam.  And I always do my puzzles in ink!  The better to see my answers (pencil is too light), and maybe I'm just confident in my answers, LOL.

[DNR]

Whooops wrong show ! 

Edited March 13, 2019 by DNR
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