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S07.E11: Unconfuse Your Brain


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Maci’s text to Jen about Halloween:

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This episode was so difficult to watch. Tyler did not want to go into that house.  To see something you worked so hard on be trashed by yet another addict!  He’s surrounded by addicts: his wife, his father, his sister.

Butch’s conflict about going to rehab was hard to watch. While he’s addicted he is still able to make sure the kids are fed and cared for. Now he’s worried about what will happen while he’s gone. 

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5 hours ago, druzy said:

Was Butch walking through the house with a Candelabra? I'm a fan of flashlights- but to each his own. 

It reminded him of "back in the day".  I took that to mean his worse drugged up, no lights, and abandoned housing days.  You can't heat up a spoon with a flashlight so candles are it.  Sad.  Very sad.

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2 hours ago, Calm81 said:

he just cut me off and said “she could have Oprah money and I wouldn’t deal with her stupid ass and her dog poop hairstyle.” He left the room NEVER asking the name of the show so I can still keep this show a secret. ???

Your husband sees a 2 minute clip and sums it all up perfectly. Andrew, what were you thinking? and what the fuck is wrong with you? Your girlfriend is a disgusting shitbag!

Maybe Tyler realizes that could be him living like that if it weren't for MTV. Paying 48K for Butch to got to rehab is insane.

Strawberry Shortcake your mom is crazy, but you're a freak.

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10 hours ago, Ajb1112 said:

WTF is Amber's problem? Psycho bitch. I felt bad for Andrew. 

She's apparently been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. My sister isBPD. When she goes off her meds, it's awful. Reminds me very much of how Amber is acting. Everything sets her off. This whole thing was a horribly stupid decision. 

 

8 hours ago, Maire said:

The look on Andrew's face as the truth of his future with Amber dawned on him was priceless. Hope it's worth it to drive the Range Rover and be a short order cook for Amber.

At least it's an easy menu - pasta and buttered bread. 

 

8 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

The best part?  Ryan’s drunk at his wedding!  They show a quick clip of Ryan and Mackenzie walking down the aisle, Mackenzie says: you’re drunk, and Ryan says: mmhmm (nodding yes).  

So - high at their first wedding, and drunk at their second!  (or was he stoned, and Mackenzie just said “drunk” to avoid talk of heroin?). That Ryan - what a catch!

I'm guessing he's high again at this one, but "drunk" sounded better. 

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2 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

I'm on Farrah's side against Deb. But on another subject, what the hell has Farrah done to herself?  She doesn't even look real between that flaming red hair, the huge lips ,the fake ass and boobs.  She was never a great beauty, in my opinion but now she literally looks like a blow up doll.

 

I think she was going for Jessica Rabbit.  And failed.

10 hours ago, FrankieTankie said:

For someone who says she doesn’t care about what her mom does Farrah sure exhausts a lot of energy into whatever her mom does. Farrah is a worthless human being .... I swear she made up 4 or 5 new words on her FaceTime rant with crazy deb .... I also loved her humble brag about how she’s changed more than any person she’s ever known... there’s nothing more cringe worthy than watching a dumb person trying to sound smart .... sorry Farrah you are trash and you’re as dumb as a box of rock oh and your daughter still looks like an unkempt muskrat 

 

THIS!!!!  This is what bugs me about Farrah.  Just in general, I hate it when people get all worked up over something and then try to toss in how they don't really care or it doesn't bother them.  Ummmhmmm, right.  I agree with Farrah that Deb doesn't deserve her time anymore.  But that means don't spend time trying to prove how you're better than her either.  Just move on.

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4 hours ago, Calm81 said:

My husband catches me watching this shit show live for the very first time (I usually watch on my phone while in the laundry room folding - I don’t want people knowing I watch this) by walking into the living room to look for his company laptop and looks at the screen during Ambers “hippy bullshit” rant and he goes....”gawd daammmmmnnnn (in his Negan voice TWD) that is one annoying ugly bitch!!! What’s her fucking problem?”

I said “they’re expecting a new baby and the boyfriend is excited to shop for gender neutral clothes hoping to keep the gender a surprise but the pregnant chic thinks they need to know the gender to plan better”

He said “that dudes life is over” I then explained to him that some of the men she dates are with her because of a huge television check she gets ...he just cut me off and said “she could have Oprah money and I wouldn’t deal with her stupid ass and her dog poop hairstyle.” He left the room NEVER asking the name of the show so I can still keep this show a secret. ???

ETA: My hubby doesn’t like to swear much, but something about Amber brought it out of him. She brings out the best in people. ?

This whole post is hilarious!  The image of Negan watching these dumb broads, shaking his head and declaring that they're all too stupid to waste Lucille on has me rolling.  Your husband should join us on the board!

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So Amber 's with a new loser and they do their scenes back in the same bed she shared with Matt!  Does she ever get up and shower or cook or do laundry like normal people?   Where does she find these loser guys that cater to her every wish?

Farrah is very scary looking.  She looks like Phase two porn star!   Deb is inviting all the teen mom misfits to her wedding for tv time and $$$ to pay for all things Deb!

Ryan has those spooky eyes again.  They give him away every time.

RE Tyler Paying $48,000 For Butch To Go to A luxury rehab!     Its True..a Fool And Their Money ARE Soon Parted!

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it's weird that Farrah refers as Deb to "my mom" to Michael.  you thinks she'd just say "Mom."  I call my mom "my mom" to friends & stuff, but not family members.

Amber is only two letters off from "anger";  her parents named her well.

Andrew should button up his shirt a little bit more.

When Tyler's nieces' & nephews' best hope for care is Butch, there is a problem.

trickortreatgate...yeah, I don't care.  At all.

2 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

So Amber 's with a new loser and they do their scenes back in the same bed she shared with Matt!  Does she ever get up and shower or cook or do laundry like normal people?   Where does she find these loser guys that cater to her every wish?

 

oh, one more thing!  I was thinking it was nice to see them not sitting on folding chairs in the damn garage!!  (I will never not wonder WTF that was all about.)

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18 minutes ago, teapot said:

oh, one more thing!  I was thinking it was nice to see them not sitting on folding chairs in the damn garage!!  (I will never not wonder WTF that was all about.)

The house was too fucking gross. Production crew was overcome by the odor. 

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19 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

RE Tyler Paying $48,000 For Butch To Go to A luxury rehab!     Its True..a Fool And Their Money ARE Soon Parted!

$48,000 for three months of evidence-based treatment is dirt cheap.  Sierra Tucson is $40,000 to $70,000/month.

23 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

 

So Amber 's with a new loser and they do their scenes back in the same bed she shared with Matt!  Does she ever get up and shower or cook or do laundry like normal people?   Where does she find these loser guys that cater to her every wish?

 

I doubt Amber has even changed the sheets since greasy Matt shared the bed. 

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Actually, if she's 13 weeks, how is she going to the gender ultrasound on Monday? Something is fishy. 

Amber said she thinks she was far along in her pregnancy to find out the sex of the baby.  (image below) not that she actually had an appointment specifically to have an ultrasound done.

Amber hasn't been to an OB/GYN in almost 9 years. She thinks one can find out the sex so early via an ultrasound. She is dumb as shit. 

 

56 minutes ago, teapot said:

it's weird that Farrah refers as Deb to "my mom" to Michael.  you thinks she'd just say "Mom."  I call my mom "my mom" to friends & stuff, but not family members.

 

I don't know. My sister and I say that at times when referring to our parents. She does it more often than I do. 

I actually FF through the Ryan/Mack/Maci scenes because I just can't get it out of my mind that these people are just fucking with the storyline for the almighty dollar. Who really knows what happened, if there is any truth in this Halloween story, and how much of it was dramatized. To hell with them. Not the kids, though. They are the innocents in all of this. 

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12 hours ago, Emkat said:

Can anyone summarize the previews for the next episode? My DVR always cuts off! Thanks!!

I put the preview links in the individual threads. Here they are

Farrah gets angry at a Teen Mom producer over an incident involving Debra.

Tyler says goodbye to Butch after dropping him off at a rehab center in Texas.

Amber and Andrew find out the sex of their baby.

11 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

The best part?  Ryan’s drunk at his wedding!  They show a quick clip of Ryan and Mackenzie walking down the aisle, Mackenzie says: you’re drunk, and Ryan says: mmhmm (nodding yes).  

So - high at their first wedding, and drunk at their second!  (or was he stoned, and Mackenzie just said “drunk” to avoid talk of heroin?). That Ryan - what a catch!

 

I put this in Maci's thread. It's a sneak peek of the wedding.

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Farrah cannot stand her producer.  I don't mind it all.  She's definitely no Heather.

I cannot stand Mackenzie.  She's just so full of shit it's pathetic.  And makes Maci look good.  I hope that drives Mackenzie nuts and in turn she drives Ryan nuts.  

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31 minutes ago, butterbody said:

Speaking of Tyler, I find myself sympathizing with him more and more each week. 

Yeah, I think I’m going to take a little break from harshly criticizing him. Fair criticism only. 

Dude should have stayed in New Orleans. He is surrounded by addicts. 

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I used to say “your mother” to my sister and she did the same. Then when we started having children, it was “xy’s grandmother”. It was a joking around thing. Can’t explain Farrah though. We never did it with my father. I don’t even know how it started.

We did joke with my father when he would appear grumpy and say, “your mother really should have breastfed you”, though.

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13 hours ago, Maire said:

The look on Andrew's face as the truth of his future with Amber dawned on him was priceless. Hope it's worth it to drive the Range Rover and be a short order cook for Amber.

Let's hope he is one hell of a good dad, and he can raise the baby and have a happy life.  Geesh, their relationship is blowing up fast. 

I also agree with Farrah! If her mom, Delusional Debz Emba, wants Farrah there so bad, quit inviting all the random people! 

Tyler's sister said she wanted to go to moms, so she could sleep and do nothing.  So, Kim has to take care of her kids? What a sad family.  Ty can be a selfish jerk, but atleast his child is fed and clothed and has electricity.   How sad that old house was.  So very sad. 

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I feel for Tyler, I can understand why he is so stressed, everyone in his life has issues. He's paying for his sister, father, and niece/nephew to stay in his old house (which apparently they can't pay the electric bill for), has to shell out 16k a month rehab, then having to deal with all of Catelynn's issues. It feels like everyone in his life is relying on him. I really feel like he needs to get out of that town to escape all of that.

The way Farrah talks to her mother is disgusting but I can see why she was mad about DebzOG inviting random people.. Courtland of all people? I guess she needs seat fillers.

Baby Huey is only getting a first taste of how Amber really is and I'm sure once the baby is born and having to deal with Amber more than a few months, he is going to split. Clearly everything is Amber's way or the highway.

I can understand why Ryan/Mac were upset that Maci changed the time, but I feel Mac always has to play up the drama. Ryan could have stayed there with Bentley while Mac dropped Hudson off to his father's house.

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14 hours ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

Anyone care to speculate what Tyler's sister drug of choice is? Boy, did she look rough! So she is neglecting her kids, leaving Butch to help take care of them? 

I say this as a child of an addict:

No way am I going to fork over 50 grand for someone who constantly relapses.

I'm thinking maybe Tyler thinks a "fancier" pricey rehab might work, where the cheap/free/state run/ ones have failed? It doesn't seem too far fetched to me that a person who grew up poor might think that "more expensive"="better".

11 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

But weren't there lights on in the kitchen?  Or were they using battery-operated lights down there?  The whole things was crazy, but I did enjoy the image of Butch carrying what looked to be a fancy plastic candelabra.

 

Why was it so dark in there? It was daytime! Open the damn blinds! Why are people stumbling around with candles??

 

1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

Did anyone catch how Mackenzie dramatically took her microphone pack off the moment Maci pulled up and shoved it to the producer?  How fucking dramatic. Have fun wrangling that monster if she transitions into a TM. 

She just lives for her diva moments, doesn't she? Honey. You are not fucking Naomi Campbell. Take a seat.

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Tyler's sister was heavily hinting that she wanted Tyler to take care of her power bill.  He didn't bite though.  Easier said than done for him, but he needs to let these people live with their decisions.  Start by selling (or stop paying rent on) the crack house. 

I think he was hoping MTV would pick up the tab for Butch, but if they've been paying for Cate then they'd be less likely to cover Butch, too.  Does anybody know if MTV is paying for her?

Maybe instead of having more babies, T & C could take in their niece and nephew.  I'm sure they're pretty self-sufficient, especially since they've likely been taking care of themselves for some time already.  Give them the most stable home they can get in this mess of a family.  Of all people, C&T know exactly what these kids are going through. 

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11 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

But weren't there lights on in the kitchen?  Or were they using battery-operated lights down there?  The whole things was crazy, but I did enjoy the image of Butch carrying what looked to be a fancy plastic candelabra.

 

 

I was thinking the same thing at first, but then I figured out they were MTV's bright camera lights.  Towards the end of the kitchen scene you could see the lighting move. 

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14 hours ago, cereality said:

 

 

14 hours ago, cereality said:

Um geniuses -- Bentley's siblings at Maci's house are his half siblings because they all have the same mom. The sibling at your house "-- Huddles" is merely a step sibling that he's known for what 3 months? 6 months max? Give it a rest . . . .

And no Ryan this isn't killing Bentley. He is fine bc he has a really stable home with Maci and Taylor and his brother and sister and I think both sets of grandparents to some extent. He doesn't give you too many passing thoughts -- mostly bc he likely gets excited about seeing you and then when he does -- you either ignore him (Halloween) or you mock him (his birthday/Christmas sweater).

And WTF is up with Tyler's sister? Is she a disaster like the rest of the family - as Tyler goes over there and the power has been disconnected probably bc the bill hasn't been paid and then later Butch is crying about her kids have nothing to eat and he's worrying they'll starve without him. WTH does she do that she can't afford food and utilities? I know money is no object due to a decade of Teen Mom money but damn I would not spend 48k for Butch's rehab. The man has been in and out of prison and rehab his whole life and continues to be a user -- what does this 48k program offer that the others didn't? Send him somewhere cheap and free and save your money so maybe you can send your daughter away to college and get her out of the cycle of dysfunction/poverty/drugs in your family.

 

This is everything I came here to bitch about.  Tyler's sister making up the story about why she couldn't pay her bill made me cringe.  Butch has been angling towards going to a fancy rehab last season and this season and we thought he was trying to get MTV to pay for it but Tyler ends up doing it.  As a child of an addict, as someone who works with addiction I can only hope this helps Butch but also from my perspective know that a place that offers fancier amenities is not going to do the trick.  It has to come from Butch himself.  If he has not been able to find coping mechanisms to help him function with addiction by now it is very, very, very hard to do.   But at least he is going.  My mom had the opportunity to go to a really nice facility (having the money to pay for it) and she didn't and we don't talk at all anymore because she won't even acknowledge her addiction which has been going on for over 30 years.

 

Mack can STFU about them being brothers.  If that's what they are striving towards then that's great.  But Bentley has barely seen Ryan since he has been with Mack so I don't think there is a huge bond between the two boys yet. 

 

My parents did not even have the opportunity to find out my gender (just because I am so old haha).  It's a wonder how they prepared for me!!  Amber should have just rationally said "It's very important to me to find out the gender, I would love to have some time to decorate the nursery and buy some items" instead of making up something to screech about. But it's Amber so. In every scene she is on bed or on the couch with someone making her food.  AHAHAHAHHA.  This is going to be a disaster.  I don't want it to for the baby's sake but it will be.

 

I kind of liked Farrah's hair.  Deb has by far been the most pathetic person to come out of any of the Teen Mom franchises.  The ways she dresses and acts, the choices she makes.  She's so thirsty for attention and her being the mom of one of the girls I am embarrassed for her.  She really has the most serious mental health issues out of anyone.  It's quite scary.

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18 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Like the name for her “boutique “. One should be able to read it quickly and know wtf it says!

I love how someone on here calls it "beef-before-haute" or something like that!  That cracked me up.

 

14 hours ago, FairyDusted said:

I hate clowns. Fuck those clowns!

Same!  OMG!!  I think that scary hayride was a little too scary for Leah's age.  

 

7 hours ago, druzy said:

NuMatt can talk about his raw food diet all the livelong day-he's broke and he's a joke.  He puts on airs. He knew exactly what Amber was referring to when she said poor food. He doesn't own any real estate in Malibu. His parents may have owned a home in Malibu but he never did. He is not a "Trust Fund Kid" with a tab at Vineyard Vines. He doesn't have a job. He's a fraud.

I needed to get that off my chest. 

Druzy - any deets on where his parents have the "family home" in the 'Bu?  I am very curious about this guy and where he comes from.  I feel like he knew what she was saying about "poor bread" or whatever, too.

 

Did anyone else hear Taylor say something to Bentley, after asking him what he was planning to be for Halloween, to say "I have to do this or they will fine me.."  Can't remember the wording.  What was that all about?

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Now that I've seen Tyler's sister, I understand why Dr. Butch had to take that poor child's cast off. She was never going to take him to a doctor and I can only assume the original injury must have happened in someone else's care or he might not have gotten medical attention in the first place.

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3 minutes ago, butterbody said:

Now that I've seen Tyler's sister, I understand why Dr. Butch had to take that poor child's cast off. She was never going to take him to a doctor and I can only assume the original injury must have happened in someone else's care or he might not have gotten medical attention in the first place.

Good point.  I didn't even consider that because the whole thing was sad.  Butch probably is the providing the best care for the kids that he can.  The least their mother could do is use the boobs Tyler bought her to at least come up with light bill money because Butch is paying for the food (and probably her drugs, too).  (And I don't mean to sound crass about that.  I seriously think she was a dancer when she got the implants.)

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7 hours ago, Calm81 said:

My husband catches me watching this shit show live for the very first time (I usually watch on my phone while in the laundry room folding - I don’t want people knowing I watch this) by walking into the living room to look for his company laptop and looks at the screen during Ambers “hippy bullshit” rant and he goes....”gawd daammmmmnnnn (in his Negan voice TWD) that is one annoying ugly bitch!!! What’s her fucking problem?”

I said “they’re expecting a new baby and the boyfriend is excited to shop for gender neutral clothes hoping to keep the gender a surprise but the pregnant chic thinks they need to know the gender to plan better”

He said “that dudes life is over” I then explained to him that some of the men she dates are with her because of a huge television check she gets ...he just cut me off and said “she could have Oprah money and I wouldn’t deal with her stupid ass and her dog poop hairstyle.” He left the room NEVER asking the name of the show so I can still keep this show a secret. ???

ETA: My hubby doesn’t like to swear much, but something about Amber brought it out of him. She brings out the best in people. ?

Wow your husband's observation was spot on! Love it! ? 

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22 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

Did anyone else hear Taylor say something to Bentley, after asking him what he was planning to be for Halloween, to say "I have to do this or they will fine me.."  Can't remember the wording.  What was that all about?

Bentley was dressed as Marshawn Lynch for Halloween.   Taylor was referencing this:  http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12237417/marshawn-lynch-seattle-seahawks-uses-same-answer-repetition-super-bowl-media-day-here-get-fined.  I got a good chuckle out of that one!  

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I know Farrah is evil and now kind of crazy looking but I still like her and hope she gets to come back on the show.  She entertains me, I admire her hustle and I want to know how things are with her and the evil spawn. Don't need to see stupid Deb ever again. What is wrong with her? She totally needs to unfuse her brain.

Mackenzie doesn't deserve to be a TM and will become even more of a monster than Farrah because she's so desperate for fame and money that she hooked herself up with a fucking junkie, could have been killed on way to wedding one and did nothing to stop the car, stood by the side of the road to say vows with someone who was higher than a fucking kite, and now is going to walk down the aisle with him drunk and/or high? She's a fool. And Hudson is not Bentley's brother.

Tyler is a horse's ass, but I feel sorry for him, too. That's too much to bear for someone so young and still growing up himself. 

Andrew deserves whatever he gets just for knocking up a bitch he didn't really know but had to know was crazy and a deadbeat mom.

Whooh! I have a lot of opinions for having not yet watched the show.

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17 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

An address that comes up for Andrew is in Malibu. An estimate for the house is over $3,000,000.

Are you referring to the Malibu house on Sea Vista Drive? He doesn't own it.

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