4evaQuez March 30, 2023 Share March 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, brisbydog said: Soon Xander and Benalex will have to date each other I'm certain Ron has already written several fanfics about this very scenario. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7937862
Nique March 30, 2023 Share March 30, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 9:34 PM, tribeca said: Why are they getting rid of all females and no males ? I got some Male's they can dump Leo Alex Tripp Rafe Brady EJ Rex Stefan maybe Shawn but he barely airs as it is. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7938279
brisbydog March 30, 2023 Share March 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nique said: I got some Male's they can dump Leo Alex Tripp Rafe Brady EJ Rex Stefan maybe Shawn but he barely airs as it is. Can we keep EJ please? Don't care about the rest 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7938284
DisneyBoy March 30, 2023 Share March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, 4evaQuez said: I'm certain Ron has already written several fanfics about this very scenario. 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 Xandy doesn't deserve that. How about Leo fixates on Benalex until they strangle each other? 1 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7938297
Nique March 30, 2023 Share March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, brisbydog said: Can we keep EJ please? Don't care about the rest I guess so 😉 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7938366
SouthernChick March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7938886
WendyCR72 March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, SouthernChick said: Maybe Harris can reminisce about how he once drove Hope's brother-in-law's (as Shane is married to Kimberly!) daughter to the brink of suicide. Charming! I know many do not like CEO Maggie, but I do because she makes Alex miserable. The Kayla spoiler has potential. Words cannot adequately express how little I give a shit about Leo and Sloan. Or Gwen. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7938894
FilmTVGeek80 March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, WendyCR72 said: Maybe Harris can reminisce about how he once drove Hope's brother-in-law's (as Shane is married to Kimberly!) daughter to the brink of suicide. Charming! I don't completely know the history there, but wasn't he in high school? And it's not like he deliberately drove her to suicide. He was an asshole to her, but it's not like he purposefully tried to drive her to suicide. Not that I have any love for the Harris character, thanks to Burton playing him, but it feels a little odd to me to hold something against a character that he did in high school, especially since we have characters who have done way worse as adults. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7938928
WendyCR72 March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 Just now, FilmTVGeek80 said: I don't completely know the history there, but wasn't he in high school? And it's not like he deliberately drove her to suicide. He was an asshole to her, but it's not like he purposefully tried to drive her to suicide. Yeah, I know. But what can I say? Any character Steve Burton plays just irritates me, so I tend not to cut them slack. A fault of mine, I guess. 😋 4 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7938930
brisbydog March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 5 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said: I don't completely know the history there, but wasn't he in high school? And it's not like he deliberately drove her to suicide. He was an asshole to her, but it's not like he purposefully tried to drive her to suicide. Not that I have any love for the Harris character, thanks to Burton playing him, but it feels a little odd to me to hold something against a character that he did in high school, especially since we have characters who have done way worse as adults. He took a bet from Scott Reeves that he could get the hooker into bed. Wooed Eve and pretended to like her, then once he slept with her dumped her and he and his friends laughed at her. He did feel bad once she nearly died but she wanted nothing to do with him then. I think she and Nick went on a revenge plot that culminated in Nick going off a cliff in a car race on prom night 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939026
peachmangosteen March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 7 hours ago, Elio Kukui said: I wonder if Leo and Sloan's faceoff is because Leo is framing Sloan for what's happening to Paulina? He'd have a legitimate grudge against Paulina, as well, for firing him. Oh, that's good spec! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939181
FnkyChkn34 March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 6:13 PM, Elio Kukui said: Exactly. Sloan is obnoxious, but IMO, it's a more fun kind of obnoxious than an annoying kind. Sorry, disagree. She's horrid. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939214
brisbydog March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said: Sorry, disagree. She's horrid. I disagree too. She's fun and pretty to look at 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939217
FnkyChkn34 March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, brisbydog said: I disagree too. She's fun and pretty to look at LOL, she's not my type. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939224
brisbydog March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 Some men out to join the ladies: Shawn and Eric reported to be gone 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939786
peachmangosteen March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 Who were both out for awhile before and came back so I assume more of the same here. These people will all be back eventually lol. Hell, probably even Allie. 2 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939789
SouthernChick March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 56 minutes ago, brisbydog said: Some men out to join the ladies: Shawn and Eric reported to be gone I figured Shawn would leave with Belle. I hope with Eric gone, they can focus on Nicole and EJ, who are more interesting together. 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939870
WendyCR72 March 31, 2023 Share March 31, 2023 Can Leo be next for the guys, please? Oh, I forgot: He's Ron's surrogate. Sigh. 18 minutes ago, SouthernChick said: I figured Shawn would leave with Belle. The wrong child of Bo/Hope is out. It sucks how Shawn is an afterthought when HE, not Ciara, was their firstborn. 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939889
Frozendiva April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939966
brisbydog April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Frozendiva said: Look I know Jarlena have a fan base and it's great that the show promotes people in their 70s having sex but I don't want to see them go at it anymore. They are so over done Also yuk to Hope and Steve Burton 3 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7939991
SouthernChick April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, WendyCR72 said: The wrong child of Bo/Hope is out. It sucks how Shawn is an afterthought when HE, not Ciara, was their firstborn. Honestly, the show hasn’t been invested in Shawn since Jason Cook was in the role. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7940000
WendyCR72 April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 Just now, SouthernChick said: Honestly, the show hasn’t been invested in Shawn since Jason Cook was in the role. Since Brandon Beemer was Cook's direct replacement, it seems the writers just don't care for him. Which, okay. Then recast with someone they will write for, is the way I see it. But to just shove the character aside altogether for his annoying sister just seems wrong, to me. 8 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7940006
DisneyBoy April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 (edited) Oh man...did they really redress the PUB and try to make it look like a Greek restaurant? Please no. Please aim higher than that. Also...did the previous voice-over guy get fired and replaced with a (presumably less paid) woman? Edited April 1, 2023 by DisneyBoy 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7940225
DisneyBoy April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Elio Kukui said: Hmm. . . . If this is true and Greg Vaughan is out, and it's also true that Jessica Serfaty is out, I wonder if Eric just ends up with Sloan and they leave together? MMMMZZP! BZZZT! Eric and Nicole end up together! Eric and Nicole love each other. *rocks in the corner* Eric and Nicole.......Eric and Nicole.... 26 minutes ago, Elio Kukui said: Shawn, though, will likely leave will Belle, as has been speculated. Why though? For what? A turkey club? (Seriously, Shawn, eat something) They should just stay together. No point in breaking them up again. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7940566
peachmangosteen April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 8 hours ago, DisneyBoy said: MMMMZZP! BZZZT! Eric and Nicole end up together! Eric will probably back back in 6 months or a year and that merry-go-round will start right up again lol. 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7940726
brisbydog April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said: Eric will probably back back in 6 months or a year and that merry-go-round will start right up again lol. It's so tired. Just do it and leave them together. Preferably off screen 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7940733
Artsda April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 (edited) At this rate almost everyone is out? Hopefully Stephanie is too. Chad they ruined and sidelined for Stefan. Chad should be in the story with his family. So he can go too since wasted. Edited April 1, 2023 by Artsda 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7940783
CanaryFan98 April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 13 hours ago, DisneyBoy said: Oh man...did they really redress the PUB and try to make it look like a Greek restaurant? Please no. Please aim higher than that. Also...did the previous voice-over guy get fired and replaced with a (presumably less paid) woman? Hey I remember when they redressed the Salem sets to look like Prague years ago so this is par for the course. I also am not bothered by these exits as most of them are temporary and honestly the show could get rid of characters they have no interest in writing for. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7940821
methodwriter85 April 1, 2023 Share April 1, 2023 I always thought it'd be funny if they recast Eric with Brock Kelly and just ignore Eric being 10 years younger than Sami. LOL 14 hours ago, WendyCR72 said: Since Brandon Beemer was Cook's direct replacement, it seems the writers just don't care for him. Which, okay. Then recast with someone they will write for, is the way I see it. Brandon Beemer is a good looking guy who looks a lot like Hope, but otherwise...not really much there. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7940822
Frozendiva April 2, 2023 Share April 2, 2023 Soapdirt two week spoilers. Meh. https://soapdirt.com/days-of-our-lives-2-week-spoilers-kayla-brady-gets-shocking-blast-from-past/ 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7941517
WendyCR72 April 2, 2023 Share April 2, 2023 53 minutes ago, Frozendiva said: Soapdirt two week spoilers. Meh. https://soapdirt.com/days-of-our-lives-2-week-spoilers-kayla-brady-gets-shocking-blast-from-past/ The Bo/Kayla stuff sounds marginally interesting. The rest? Zzzzzzzzzzzz. And yes, it is hypocritical of her, but I love that Maggie makes Alex miserable, and I hope she does fire him. Just because. She doesn't even have to hire Xander (though she probably would!), but Alex is such a cocky jackwagon that Maggie sticking it to him is that much more enjoyable. Alex and Gwen are made for each other, as far as I'm concerned. 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7941535
peachmangosteen April 2, 2023 Share April 2, 2023 6 hours ago, WendyCR72 said: And yes, it is hypocritical of her, but I love that Maggie makes Alex miserable, and I hope she does fire him. Just because. She doesn't even have to hire Xander (though she probably would!), but Alex is such a cocky jackwagon that Maggie sticking it to him is that much more enjoyable. This. I love that Maggie hates Alex lol. He really was a dick to her about getting the CEO position at Titan. I thought she'd have already fired him and hired Xander by now. 3 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7941644
CanaryFan98 April 2, 2023 Share April 2, 2023 I believe the Victor episode will air in August if this is any indication. Dayzed&ConfuzedInSalem on Twitter: "#DAYS August https://t.co/4wcCce50n7" / Twitter 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7941876
SouthernChick April 2, 2023 Share April 2, 2023 Stephen Nichols said that the show is doing a Victor tribute episode to air in August. 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7942221
FnkyChkn34 April 3, 2023 Share April 3, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 8:46 PM, WendyCR72 said: Since Brandon Beemer was Cook's direct replacement, it seems the writers just don't care for him. Which, okay. Then recast with someone they will write for, is the way I see it. But to just shove the character aside altogether for his annoying sister just seems wrong, to me. Shawn should be the Police Commissioner and a main focus of the show. There's no reason why a legacy character should play second (or third or fourth) fiddle to a "newbie" like Rafe. I know Rafe isn't new anymore and he's now established, but it's still just wrong, IMO. They can re-cast if necessary; I'm sure there's a half-decent, dark-haired 40-year-old actor in Hollywood who would take a full-time role on a soap opera. 4 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7942328
4evaQuez April 3, 2023 Share April 3, 2023 6 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said: I believe the Victor episode will air in August if this is any indication. Dayzed&ConfuzedInSalem on Twitter: "#DAYS August https://t.co/4wcCce50n7" / Twitter 1 hour ago, SouthernChick said: Stephen Nichols said that the show is doing a Victor tribute episode to air in August. I know this is morbid, but I hope the show uses this as a learning opportunity to have some evergreen "last episode" scenes for actors passed a certain age. For example, I would hope Doug could have some scenes filmed that could effectively be his "goodbye" with Julie, Hope, Bo, Ciara, and Shawn. Add Jack and Jenn if they could have Melissa Reeves return. It doesn't have to be anything grand, but just something that could easily be inserted at the end of any episode as a goodbye to the character. I can understand why people would have qualms with such a request, but instead, the alternative is having Victor's last scenes of his decades-long history be unmemorable. Weren't they with Leo? And this shouldn't be the case. 1 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7942406
DisneyBoy April 3, 2023 Share April 3, 2023 4 hours ago, 4evaQuez said: I know this is morbid, but I hope the show uses this as a learning opportunity to have some evergreen "last episode" scenes for actors passed a certain age. For example, I would hope Doug could have some scenes filmed that could effectively be his "goodbye" with Julie, Hope, Bo, Ciara, and Shawn. Add Jack and Jenn if they could have Melissa Reeves return. It doesn't have to be anything grand, but just something that could easily be inserted at the end of any episode as a goodbye to the character. I can understand why people would have qualms with such a request, but instead, the alternative is having Victor's last scenes of his decades-long history be unmemorable. Weren't they with Leo? And this shouldn't be the case. 👆👆👆👆👆 👏👏👏👏👏 I've been thinking this for years. I'd wrongly assumed they had such a plan in place for Joe. I took Victor's brief birthday scene on the couch with Maggie as the farewell, but that was mostly luck. Victor should have a big final storyline. Sigh. So, SO much wasted on this Show. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7942979
FilmTVGeek80 April 3, 2023 Share April 3, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 2:28 AM, WendyCR72 said: Alex and Gwen are made for each other, as far as I'm concerned. How exactly is Alex a cocky jack wagon and Xander isn’t? It’s hard to believe someone who’s that much of a criminal could have the audacity to look down their nose at anyone, but Xander somehow manages it. And Alex may be a cocky jack wagon, but unlike Xander (or Gwen) he’s not a sociopath, thug criminal. Xander and Gwen are made for each other. 4 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7943699
WendyCR72 April 3, 2023 Share April 3, 2023 23 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said: How exactly is Alex a cocky jack wagon and Xander isn’t? It’s hard to believe someone who’s that much of a criminal could have the audacity to look down their nose at anyone, but Xander somehow manages it. And Alex may be a cocky jack wagon, but unlike Xander (or Gwen) he’s not a sociopath, thug criminal. Xander and Gwen are made for each other. Well, like I said, Xander did save Maggie, so I get her POV. And Xander did show he was capable of loving someone in Sarah. (Even if even I agree he ended up treating her like shit for pet Gwen!) I have yet to see Gwen love anyone, and Alex just seems sleazy and sexist to me. So, my Alex/Gwen opinion stands, but we won't agree. It's cool. 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7943707
peachmangosteen April 3, 2023 Share April 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said: How exactly is Alex a cocky jack wagon and Xander isn’t? Yea, they definitely both are. I like Xander more often than I like Alex because of the actor and also the Ben problem. 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7943726
brisbydog April 3, 2023 Share April 3, 2023 Tomorrow's show. All the hugging is kind of ridiculous but I can't blame her 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7943757
WendyCR72 April 3, 2023 Share April 3, 2023 That picture...I'm beginning to wonder, once Sarah comes back, if the show is not setting up some Sarah/Xander/Chloe/Rex quad. And it would be a huge "wink, wink" deal insofar as Rex/Chloe goes since it was his Brady that Chloe married and left town with. Especially since she and Brady seem at an impasse because of Rac-hell. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7943767
brisbydog April 3, 2023 Share April 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said: That picture...I'm beginning to wonder, once Sarah comes back, if the show is not setting up some Sarah/Xander/Chloe/Rex quad. And it would be a huge "wink, wink" deal insofar as Rex/Chloe goes since it was his Brady that Chloe married and left town with. Especially since she and Brady seem at an impasse because of Rac-hell. Anything to get him away from Gwen 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7943775
SouthernChick April 3, 2023 Share April 3, 2023 Monday, April 10, 2023 Stephanie seeks Marlena's help to find Kayla. Tuesday, April 11, 2023 Brady is upset when he finds Chloe and Xander together. Wednesday, April 12, 2023 Chanel and Sloan get into a physical brawl. Thursday, April 13, 2023 Wendy is shocked to find Johnny in the middle of a marriage proposal. Friday, April 14, 2023 Affected by the drugged biscuits, Nicole and Eric get hot and heavy. Rafe has an adverse reaction to the biscuits. 2 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7943866
DisneyBoy April 4, 2023 Share April 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, SouthernChick said: Affected by the drugged biscuits, Nicole and Eric get hot and heavy. God bless those biscuits! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7943898
SouthernChick April 4, 2023 Share April 4, 2023 I hope whatever happens between Eric and Nicole doesn’t cause Nicole to break things up with EJ. I love her and EJ together. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7943930
4evaQuez April 4, 2023 Share April 4, 2023 2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said: That picture...I'm beginning to wonder, once Sarah comes back, if the show is not setting up some Sarah/Xander/Chloe/Rex quad. And it would be a huge "wink, wink" deal insofar as Rex/Chloe goes since it was his Brady that Chloe married and left town with. Especially since she and Brady seem at an impasse because of Rac-hell. I actually think this could be a good quad. The show actually teased Rex/Chloe when KL was originally introduced onto the canvas as Rex. This was before the show let him go, and they moved Chloe into Stefan's orbit. Around this time, Sarah also had a lot of animosity toward Chloe. I still remember her attacking Chloe for how Chloe treated her brother, Dan. And Sarah was quick to side with Eric in the custody hearing against Chloe for Holly when Nicole was still believed to be dead. I imagined Sarah had a lot of hidden animosity toward Chloe for Chloe's role in revealing Rex and Mimi were the parents of Emily at Sarah and Rex's engagement party. Rex and Sarah also know Philip is alive which Chloe is still ignorant to. 4 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7943939
WendyCR72 April 4, 2023 Share April 4, 2023 Gee, Brady, maybe if you didn't keep coddling your demon spawn and enacting some consistent DISCIPLINE with her, maybe Chloe wouldn't have to look elsewhere. Rachel should have been Mickey. Or not born at all. 1 2 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7944077
CanaryFan98 April 4, 2023 Share April 4, 2023 13 hours ago, WendyCR72 said: Gee, Brady, maybe if you didn't keep coddling your demon spawn and enacting some consistent DISCIPLINE with her, maybe Chloe wouldn't have to look elsewhere. Rachel should have been Mickey. Or not born at all. I wish they did keep her as Mickey not that I wanted Eric/Sarah to have a kid but that had more dramatic impact than Rachel. Especially when you factor in Xander vs Eric, Nicole having to deal with another woman having a connection to Eric she never will etc. You could've gotten years worth of drama out of that. Then there's Maggie/Marlena sharing a grandchild together. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7944855
DisneyBoy April 4, 2023 Share April 4, 2023 59 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said: Then there's Maggie/Marlena sharing a grandchild together. If settle for Maggie/Marlena sharing a conversation together! 1 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/416/#findComment-7944920
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