All Episodes Talk: Small World, Big Lives

[DonnaMae]

1 hour ago, StaceyNotStacie said:

In regards to Chris, I still don’t see what he sees in Amy (the overall pairing of a normal sized man and a little person woman just seems odd) but I don’t mind him.

I don't either.  Maybe he liked that she was eager to go on motorcycle trips with him.  I don't believe he married for her cooking skills.  I do like him and wonder why he stayed a bachelor so long.

[Endora]

Chris makes his points and gets his zingers in under the guise of being helpful and caring and speaking in that calm low manner.  

BTW, I was glad to hear that Amy didn’t see any Scorpios in Arizona, so no run-ins with people born between October 23 and November 22!  

[Kid]

22 hours ago, Hedgehog2022 said:

Kind of shocking to hear Zach, parent to two toddlers and a newborn, gripe about the kids not being self suffcient and "can't wait" till they are....yet still  bragging about "having a pack" of dwarf kids. Hope they cover that sandbox after use...can't imagine what kind of animals might use it as their toilet.

He likes to breed.  Doesn't like to parent.

[1011101010001]

17 minutes ago, Kid said:

He likes to breed.  Doesn't like to parent.

As with the power lifting it seems to be a sad attempt at portraying himself as virile.

[stoppro]

After seeing those pics,I think he looks diseased.

[Harry Wails]

9 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I have never understood the appeal of a sandbox. They seem so unsanitary unless there is a cover that fits over it.  It's not just feral cats that will use it but any number of animals that roam around at night. Do kids really play much in a sandbox? Seems like having a play area with a fort, and swings and a slide would get more use and the kids would be able to use it for a longer period. of time. 

And count me in with others who are giving the side eye to Zack building the sandbox. 

They can be a lot of fun for little kids but they also need to be maintained especially if they're located in a wooded area like ZiTs house, I don't know if it was always a problem but nowadays they can easily become infested with sand fleas that bite like hell and you have to remove all the sand, scrub the wood down with a bleach solution in hot water, let it thoroughly dry then line the bottom with new landscape fabric and refill with clean sand meant for sandboxes.

We put a sandbox in a partially shaded area of our yard, we have trees and bushes nearby like ZiTs property and it was full of sand fleas within a few weeks, the kids had red itchy spots on their legs and arms, I took it all apart, cleaned it, refilled and they were back within a month, the people at the garden supply store where I bought the sand said they were getting lots of questions about it from people trying to get rid of them, they told me to try dumping cinnamon and salt all over the sand and raking it in, that seemed to kick them back a little longer but eventually they returned... the battle rages on.

I can't imagine Zach putting in the effort to battle sand fleas, he barely had the energy to hang a few xmas lights.

[Absolom]

In California, beware of brown widow spiders in and around sand boxes.  

They really need a tight cover to keep all animals out when the box isn't in use.  Hopefully, Zach and Tori are aware of that.

[chenoa333]

23 hours ago, StaceyNotStacie said:

, but it seems like he’s an easy going, somewhat normal guy who makes friends easily and gets along with most people. 

He does appear to be easy going.Not sure about "normal". 

I still believe his quiet, calm, boring persona is partially him. But I also think his brain is in motion with ideas on how to work less and make more money.

His TLC paychecks (and real estate money) will add up to a decent amount for retirement, or maybe he's planning on divorcing Amy before he retires. He's smart enough to know he won't be getting anything from Amy except bitterness and hatred. 

[Back Atcha]

23 hours ago, Kid said:

He likes to breed.  Doesn't like to parent.

I don't think he's in the minority.

[Kid]

2 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

I don't think he's in the minority.

Me neither!!!!   🤣🤣🤣

[winsomeone]

I couldn't believe it when they showed Jackson sitting on Lilah's face with his butt, and he was saying, "I'm sitting, I'm sitting" and neither parent said a word? He is three times her size. Has she been oxygen deprived when he won't get off of her? She isn't autistic, she has just been systematically terrorized her whole life. Will he do the same to the new baby too, or is it just Lilah he hates so much? Tory says he is a wonderful big brother. Does she think the whole world is blind?

[65mickey]

I think Tori is so into projecting an image of her perfect family to her fans that she can't see what's going on with Jackson and Lilah. And this extends to their physical and developmental needs.

[suev3333]

On 7/7/2022 at 1:24 PM, Endora said:

BTW, I was glad to hear that Amy didn’t see any Scorpios in Arizona, so no run-ins with people born between October 23 and November 22!

Omg!!!   I'm so glad someone mentioned this.   I thought I was hearing things when Amy said "scorpios".    Then again,  why should I be surprised!? 😆

[babyhouseman]

14 hours ago, suev3333 said:

Omg!!!   I'm so glad someone mentioned this.   I thought I was hearing things when Amy said "scorpios".    Then again,  why should I be surprised!? 😆

I saw the scorpios word in closed captioning, and I wondered why Amy was talking about that.

[ginger90]

Clip:

[65mickey]

Zack is not through punishing Matt. Not surprised. I'll bet Tori has told him to keep the pressure on. I do feel sorry for lilah and Jackson. They are missing out on spending time with Grandpa because their parents are selfish assholes.

[Redrum]

5 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

They are missing out on spending time with Grandpa because their parents are selfish assholes.

Seems to me they are spending time with Granpa in this clip. Matt's just required to make more of an effort to come to them. Considering the nature of the argument - I know parents who would go scorched earth and call the cops if the grandparents showed up on the property. Not saying that's right or appropriate, but Zach is allowing his kids to see their granddad on reasonable terms. 

9 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I'll bet Tori has told him to keep the pressure on.

I'm sure she agrees with Zach on not spending every other day on Matt's farm. But what's there to keep pressure on about? They've bought a place in Washington and Matt's been very clear in telling them they need big bucks they don't have in order to purchase the farm. They can't afford it and Matt is cheerfully telling folks how relieved he is that Zach will never ger the farm and even seeing the grandkids more won't change Matt's mind on that. 

Matt's selling the place to strangers - refusing to drop the grandkids off clearly didn't change the man's mind. 

[65mickey]

20 minutes ago, Redrum said:

Considering the nature of the argument - I know parents who would go scorched earth and call the cops if the grandparents showed up on the property

Wow, I'm thankful that I do not know anyone like this.  

[Absolom]

Appropriate boundaries are never unimportant.  I've known people whose parents showed up and entered their house unannounced without knocking or when they weren't home.  I'm guessing if the parents had continued, action would have been taken.  It's a door that swings both ways.  Matt and Caryn aren't persecuted saints in the situation that Matt seems to have instigated and then tries to pretend he's the put upon one without ever apologizing for his part.  You do things and then get to live with the consequences.  I'm not saying Zach and Tori are 100% right either, but they are entitled to not fall on Matt's neck for the mess that was made.  If the result is he has to drive to see the grandkids, well that happens. 

Matt seems free to visit the grandkids regularly.  I'm not sure spending so much time on the farm was the healthiest thing for the kids since we've noticed there are some issues with the kids that need to be worked on.  Also I wonder how much the show has built up and emphasized what conflict there is for ratings.

Edited July 11, 2022 by Absolom

[stoppro]

14 hours ago, Absolom said:

all of it 'Pardon me for messing up the quotes'

14 hours ago, Absolom said:

Also I wonder how

14 hours ago, Absolom said:

much the show has built up and emphasized what conflict there is for ratings.

Edited July 12, 2022 by stoppro
mistake

[Dibs]

So Zach can drive the kids an hour and back to Amy's house (I guess the new go-to daycare when Tori kicks him out of the house on a daily basis so she can do - what, exactly; Tweet in peace)?  But severely disabled Matt who's still working full-time has to "make the effort" to see them?  It takes considerable effort for him just to get in and out of his vehicle, as we've seen recently.  And Grandpa and Cha-Cha who also kept them overnight several times a week (wow; parenthood is easy these days!!!) can no longer keep them...why???  Nice!  I only hope this is all scripted...

As for what was said by whom in the "argument," we have no idea unless we were there.  I wouldn't call any of them reliable reporters, although I tend to believe Matt.  I would've said Chris until he became Amy's mouthpiece and hand puppet.

I also noticed Matt saying Zach said no to the deal, so I gather from that he offered them the house sans the woods for Zach's offer, but Zach got in a snit about the woods which, yes, I'm more than sure they could've continued to use for their father/son campouts without the disadvantage of being responsible for the upkeep of the trees, which can get quite costly when arborists and trimmers are involved.

But that's how dumb Zach is!

[Kid]

Amy wanted to make it more "palable" for the kids.  The word is palatable.

[Redrum]

Matt's not so severely disabled that he can't drive. When Matt says he's too disabled to drive any more and actually stops driving, this would be a fair argument to me. 

Matt also pretty freely lies and exaggerates and always has. I'm sure he and Caryn babysat a lot. I'm also sure it wasn't several nights a week for years on end.

Matt saying Zach turned down his offer is Matt attempting to rewrite the narrative. Matt previously said Zach wasn't offering enough to where Matt could even consider it. Matt also said he was relieved that Zach wasn't going to get the farm. He wants to paint it now as he really wants to sell to Zach but Zach just wasn't willing.... and like no, you don't get to chortle with glee how stupid your son is and how glad you are he will never get the property... and then act like you still want him to buy it. 

[Ms.Lulu]

1 hour ago, Redrum said:

Matt saying Zach turned down his offer is Matt attempting to rewrite the narrative. Matt previously said Zach wasn't offering enough to where Matt could even consider it. Matt also said he was relieved that Zach wasn't going to get the farm. 

What was shared previously by Matt was that ZiT made an offer and Matt countered with a smaller portion of the farm--basically the farmhouse and half the acreage (not woods).  And ZiT said no.  ZiT does not dispute this.

So I think this is likely the classic two sides of the story and the truth is something else.  

I believe ZiT made an offer that reflected what Ami was paid for half of that half of the farm.  Matt said no.  Matt countered with less land and the farmhouse.  ZiT said no.

ZiT was angry that they didn't get a discount and an opportunity to get half the farm.  Matt was relieved because he really didn't think ZiT could run the farm anyway and he wanted more money than was offered.

Edited July 12, 2022 by Ms.Lulu

[Back Atcha]

1 minute ago, Ms.Lulu said:

I believe ZiT made an offer that reflected what Ami was paid for half of that half of the farm.  Matt said no.  Matt countered with less land and the farmhouse.  ZiT said no.

Where's the part where Caryn said she stopped all negotiations?

[Redrum]

Backatcha that doesn't fit Matt's narrative that he really wanted to give Zach a deal. That Zach said no to.

[1011101010001]

3 hours ago, Redrum said:

Backatcha that doesn't fit Matt's narrative that he really wanted to give Zach a deal. That Zach said no to.

Yeah and then in later episodes he said it wouldn’t be fair to the other kids if he gave Zach a discount because there would be less money from the sale for them to possibly inherit.

[ezzy4]

Dear LORD...people sell properties all.the.time.  Why is this such a huge deal??  I have fond memories of the farm where i grew up that my parents sold a few years back.  I'm thankful for the memories. Never occurred to me that it should have been given to me.  These people (all of them) need to move the F on.  Geezzee.

[1011101010001]

14 minutes ago, ezzy4 said:

Dear LORD...people sell properties all.the.time.  Why is this such a huge deal??  I have fond memories of the farm where i grew up that my parents sold a few years back.  I'm thankful for the memories. Never occurred to me that it should have been given to me.  These people (all of them) need to move the F on.  Geezzee.

Guess it’s not a big world, just a farm.

[Irate Panda]

I was going upstairs, so I missed part of the scene, did Lilah actually run into the tree? 

Has Matt’s dog been on this season?  Is Lucy still alive?

Chris seems like he’s going to miss the farm more than the rest of them put together.  Poor Chris, maybe he and Matt can have sleepovers at Grandpa’s Cabin 😁. Glad the season finale is coming up, I’m so tired of hearing about this damn farm, although I guess there’s not much else they got going on, we can only have Z&T discuss having a LP child so many times.

 

[65mickey]

Amy needs to shut up about the farm. It's not hers anymore. She sold out her share of the farm to Matt in 2 separate deals. Now she is pissed that Matt is calling the shots with the farm. I doubt that Matt put a gun to Amy's head and forced her to sell. She wanted the money.  If Matt had given in to Zach's low offer then where does that leave the other 3 children? The only fair way for this to have gone would have been for Zach to pay the FMV for the property and the home. It has nothing to do with Matt being a hard nosed businessman but about treating all 4 children equally. 

Edited July 13, 2022 by 65mickey

[65mickey]

22 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

I was going upstairs, so I missed part of the scene, did Lilah actually run into the tree? 

Yes she did. They put a tiny 2 year old child alone in the car and let her ride around the yard.  Tori was supposed to be controlling the car with a remote controller but she failed to stop it before Lilah hit the tree.  Even Zach yelled at Tori. If these children manage to survive to their teen years without serious injuries it will be no thanks to their moronic parents.

Edited July 13, 2022 by 65mickey

[SunnyBeBe]

Tori and Zach…they are nauseating.  😠 Why must they laugh when Lilah gets hurt or is being placed in harm’s way? I feel for that kid.  No helmet, vision issue,  very small stature, in an automated vehicle that she appeared to be unfamiliar with driving around an obstacle course yard.  So, either she ran into the tree head-on or Tori ran her into it with the remote.  And Tori found it to be hilarious!😔
 

I enjoy the adult couples, but enough already about the farm sale.  It’s just too much and I’m not that interested in hearing about it, especially Amy whining about something that she seems to be disingenuous about.  It’s easy for her to discuss about how someone else should part with their money.  If she was so pro-farm family, she could have given Zach the money to buy the farm.  I mean it is FAMILY and it’s too sad for Zach not to live there with his kids.  Ughhhh….

[Kid]

17 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

No helmet, vision issue,  very small stature, in an automated vehicle that she appeared to be unfamiliar with driving around an obstacle course yard.  So

And wasn't there a scene where Jackson was in that little car and backing it up and Lilah was standing behind him? He could have run her over.  I think that both of those children are too young to be operating something like that. But what do I know I don't have kids.

Edited July 13, 2022 by Kid

[SunnyBeBe]

7 minutes ago, Kid said:

And wasn't there a scene where Jackson was in that little car and backing it up and Lilah was standing behind him? He could have run her over.  I think that both of those children are too young to be operating something like that. But what do I know I don't have kids.

Young kids do operate many of those battery vehicles, but with these two, the circumstances are different.  For one thing, neither parent seems smart enough to properly supervise them and there’s no safe driving area in that rickety yard. It’s a miracle they have escaped without serious injury.   

[1011101010001]

Can’t wait too see how Zach “improves the creek.”

[Jeanne222]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Amy needs to shut up about the farm. It's not hers anymore. She sold out her share of the farm to Matt in 2 separate deals. Now she is pissed that Matt is calling the shots with the farm. I doubt that Matt put a gun to Amy's head and forced her to sell. She wanted the money.  If Matt had given in to Zach's low offer then where does that leave the other 3 children? The only fair way for this to have gone would have been for Zach to pay the FMV for the property and the home. It has nothing to do with Matt being a hard nosed businessman but about treating all 4 children equally. 

Why didn't Amy and Zack work out a deal for Amys half?  Perhaps the divorce decree said they had to sell to each other only but both Amy and Matt had attorneys that drew it up the contract that way and Amy agreed to it. 

If the farm meant so much to her and Zack she should have agreed the farm could be sold to family members only!

Amy took the money and ran.  Prices went up which probably makes her really angry.  Now Matt's putting it on the market and Amy's bitching as usual!  She's a nasty one!

[Joan of Argh]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Amy needs to shut up about the farm. It's not hers anymore. She sold out her share of the farm to Matt in 2 separate deals. Now she is pissed that Matt is calling the shots with the farm. I doubt that Matt put a gun to Amy's head and forced her to sell. She wanted the money.  If Matt had given in to Zach's low offer then where does that leave the other 3 children? The only fair way for this to have gone would have been for Zach to pay the FMV for the property and the home. It has nothing to do with Matt being a hard nosed businessman but about treating all 4 children equally. 

This!  

So the only place that Amy and Chris can walk and get exercise is Matt’s farm, then Amy gets all bitchy about his new house plans, paving the driveway, you name she’s pissed off… GO HOME, go sit in your little cracker box house with whiny, nasal voiced dull as dirt Chris and STFU!!!  🤬

That still wasn’t enough bitching about Matt so she had to lunch with her old bleached blonde Mae West wannabe Lisa and BITCH about Matt!

and even that wasn’t enough so now we see scenes of her AT THE FARM bitching at Matt about how he wants to run HIS farm and HIS life…. Which is none of her business!  🙄

Matt might have to get a restraining order to keep Amy and her boring husband off his property, right now they’ll make up any excuse to hang around Matt and his farm.

[Redrum]

7 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

GO HOME, go sit in your little cracker box house with whiny, nasal voiced dull as dirt Chris and STFU!!!  

A four bedroom two story house with close to 3000 square foot is a "little cracker box" house now?

I actually thought "Um... we like to walk for exercise so despite how my instagram is full of entries where I am out in my neighborhood exploring the various sites, I really prefer driving to my old house and walking the property" was kind of sorta almost certainly a staged for the camera get together

7 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

and even that wasn’t enough so now we see scenes of her AT THE FARM bitching at Matt about how he wants to run HIS farm and HIS life…. Which is none of her business!

You know, he can call the cops, right? As is often said, its his property now, If Amy and Chris aren't invited to be there, then Matt can have them arrested for trespassing. 

7 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Matt might have to get a restraining order to keep Amy and her boring husband off his property, right now they’ll make up any excuse to hang around Matt and his farm.

Until Matt actually does this, gotta be honest, I have to assume he has no problem with it. I mean, Matt is the one who has been saying for some time now that he likes hanging around Amy and Chris. To me it seems a little off that he's so super friendly but he is the guy who was remote viewing his ex wife's wedding on security cameras. Makes me think he's a little hung up on her still. 

[ginger90]

According to Amy everything on the show is reality, no staging, no script.

[Redrum]

Ginger90 - Matt has said the same thing. 

Personally I don't think its true, from either. But if it is true then Matt really must not have a problem with Amy wandering about the property, right?

[Redrum]

I was not shocked to hear that Matt has gone thru 12 architects while designing his dream house. If he has each one doing plans, thats 1000-3000 dollars per architect

[SunnyBeBe]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

According to Amy everything on the show is reality, no staging, no script.

Yeah, I hear that from some realty cast members, but I don’t buy it.  The minute Chris said that he and Amy went over to the farm to exercise…..lol….it was obvious to me that was scripted.  They had to give the cast members a reason to interact.  The only other option is another dinner or running into each other at the home improvement store. Lol.  Just as the father/daughter and Mother/son day.  Would never have happened, if they weren’t filming, imo.  

[ginger90]

2 hours ago, Redrum said:

Ginger90 - Matt has said the same thing. 

Personally I don't think its true, from either. But if it is true then Matt really must not have a problem with Amy wandering about the property, right?

I didn’t say he did. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[Libby]

It seems to me that Zach and Tori are more angry at Caryn than at Matt. The biggest mistake the new girlfriend/boyfriend after divorce can make is to get involved in disputes between their significant other and their children. She really overstepped.

She may have caused a permanent rift between herself and Matt's children.

[Irate Panda]

18 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Yeah, I hear that from some realty cast members, but I don’t buy it.  The minute Chris said that he and Amy went over to the farm to exercise…..lol….it was obvious to me that was scripted.  They had to give the cast members a reason to interact.  The only other option is another dinner or running into each other at the home improvement store. Lol.  Just as the father/daughter and Mother/son day.  Would never have happened, if they weren’t filming, imo.  

LOL I’m waiting for Chris to say he lost his wallet so he better head over to the farm to look for it or he’s made Matt, Henry’s Godfather and he’s taking him over to visit.  They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for reasons to stumble around the farm or just for storylines in general.  

I don’t really care who gets the farm, but if we are to believe Matt is such a jerk or an unfeeling business man wouldn’t Amy know that better than any of us, so why didn’t she just buy her part of the farm or the whole farm and give it to her kids like she said she would? I doubt it’s because she trusted Matt to do it, she tells us weekly she doesn’t trust him at all.  It’s likely she couldn’t afford to do it anymore than Matt can.  It’s hard to give your kids their inheritance when you’re still alive, even when you’re 60 and don’t need money.

Next season on Little People, Big World:

In a surprise move, Matt rents the farm to Henry! Henry, long tired of his cramped fish bowl, decides he’s had enough of his parents arguing about dirty mugs, so decides to move out on his own.  Much to Matt’s chagrin, Henry throws one wild party after another endangering pumpkin season! (When isn’t pumpkin season in danger?)

 

As the family dynasty and the farm’s existence hang in the balance, one young man feels a stir inside of him as he is TRUE heir of Roloff Farms! The prodigal son has returned…all the way from Battleground, Washington

 

Yeah…no…not Zach, he’s busy trying to figure out that damn Sonic app and pick trash out of creek…the other heir apparent

No, not Jackson, quite frankly he’s on to bigger and better things, it’s my understanding he now OWNS a string of local Benihanas, so that only leaves one hero to claim his rightful inheritance (even though Matt is still quite alive)…the indubitable MURPHY ROLOFF!!! <the crowd goes wild>
 

Will Murphy gain control over the farm from Henry? Will Zach successfully wedge in another Sonic product placement? Will Chris wax poetic about the farm? Will Matt ride around on a tractor and scream, “Yeah!”  Will Amy add too much garlic to her recipes? You’ll have to tuned in to Little People, Big World Season 400 to find out! Well, except for the garlic thing we all pretty much knows she does.

[SunnyBeBe]

That’s too funny!  And true.  How will the cast members get together to interact next season?  Hmmmm…..I suppose they could gather on Matt’s porch and use binoculars to check out the goings on at the new neighbors!  Lol. Or, Amy and Caryn take yoga classes together! Or, Matt and Chris take a road trip across America to showcase old cars and ghost towns!  Riveting tv for sure. 😝

[Hedgehog2022]

21 hours ago, Redrum said:

Matt's not so severely disabled that he can't drive. When Matt says he's too disabled to drive any more and actually stops driving, this would be a fair argument to me. 

Matt also pretty freely lies and exaggerates and always has. I'm sure he and Caryn babysat a lot. I'm also sure it wasn't several nights a week for years on end.

Matt saying Zach turned down his offer is Matt attempting to rewrite the narrative. Matt previously said Zach wasn't offering enough to where Matt could even consider it. Matt also said he was relieved that Zach wasn't going to get the farm. He wants to paint it now as he really wants to sell to Zach but Zach just wasn't willing.... and like no, you don't get to chortle with glee how stupid your son is and how glad you are he will never get the property... and then act like you still want him to buy it. 

THIS! Matt is master manipulator. It's important to remember that this whole farm mess started when Matt first turned down Jeremy's offer. Next up...Zach. We all know that Matt said to the camera that Zach's offer wasn't enough. Now...let's go back in time and remember how many times Matt yapped about leaving the farm to one or more of the kids if they were interested in it. Note the word "leave"...he never once said "sell" to one or more of the kids. My guess is that Matt sought out a realtor to see how much he could get for the farm while the market was hot...then he made the decision to sell it on the open market. This decision was most certainly made before he went into "negotiations" with his kids...I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around that aspect of this whole thing. I'm sure Jeremy and Zach were not thinking that they would not have to pay up on some aspects of the farm, like machinery, care and feeding of the animals, etc... but to have to "negotiate" with your Dad when you have a young family to support seems cold. 

The funny thing about all of this is that there are no buyers for the part of the farm Matt put on the market!! I read an article that said the fancy realtor Matt is using has no takers or even any interested people wanting to put a bid on it. I'm sure Matt thought he would have it sold in a week...NOT! And now the market has dropped and sales are slow...housing prices have dropped let alone farm property. He might wish he had sold it to one of the boys.

[Hedgehog2022]

1 hour ago, Libby said:

It seems to me that Zach and Tori are more angry at Caryn than at Matt. The biggest mistake the new girlfriend/boyfriend after divorce can make is to get involved in disputes between their significant other and their children. She really overstepped.

She may have caused a permanent rift between herself and Matt's children.

Oh, she's a real piece of work...quite the phoney actually. All sweet and lovey dovey to Matt but extremely passive aggressive when it comes to his kids. She needs to STFU about Roloff family matters...at least on camera. Not a good look for a stepmother.

[Endora]

Just when I think the show can’t get more annoying it does!  Amy is so full of shit you can smell her a mile away.  Amy and Chris show up at the farm and pump Matt all about his personal business then Amy gets annoyed and says I can’t stand here and listen to this, then don’t, who told you to go there anyway?  Chris and Mae West need to shut up, Amy too, it’s none of their business what he does with the farm.  If Amy were so concerned about the kids getting the farm, did she talk to Matt in advance, did she offer Zach any money to help him buy her half?  Not too late Amy, offer him the money now and he can re-negotiate with Matt, after all it means so much to you and Chris.  Better yet, you should have stayed there and bought out Matt, Chris would be so much happier.  

Tori letting Lilah ram into a tree and then laughing is so disturbing, she then tells Zach Lilah could have taken over, so it was Lilah’s  own fault I guess.  Also, she should have been wearing helmet.  Tori is a lazy slug, she is possibly worse then Zach.