All Episodes Talk: Small World, Big Lives

[EllaWycliffe]

I mean, I think "still friends with" can mean different things to different people. To me, that's a place where if I saw the person, we'd greet pleasantly and allude to old times and reconnect verbally, maybe over a meal. I'm "still friends with" a guy who once cheated on me, for example. That doesn't mean we still actively date or intentionally contact each other. Chris can still be friends with his exes without actively banging all of them on the side. 

[AZChristian]

16 hours ago, ginger90 said:

The only specific thing he mentioned were the his and her closets going in the new house.

Unlike the closets at Amy's house, which are probably more like hers and hers.  One of them is full of mugs.

[all4mom2]

2 hours ago, EllaWycliffe said:

I mean, I think "still friends with" can mean different things to different people. To me, that's a place where if I saw the person, we'd greet pleasantly and allude to old times and reconnect verbally, maybe over a meal. I'm "still friends with" a guy who once cheated on me, for example. That doesn't mean we still actively date or intentionally contact each other. Chris can still be friends with his exes without actively banging all of them on the side. 

I think we all know what "still friends" means.  It doesn't mean "still banging."  It means having no ill will, not holding a grudge, and being cordial.  And Amy was aghast at this suggestion, which speaks volumes.  I frankly think Amy's biggest fan base consists of (other) bitter women who can't move past the fact that they were dumped.  Or even just that their marriage failed.

Edited July 2, 2021 by all4mom2

[BrownBear2012]

3 hours ago, LucyEth said:

I thought he lived with a few of his girlfriends.   Not sure how anyone who watches the show would know if he has grown a lot since being with Amy, did anyone know him before the Amy relationship?  Inquiring minds want to know!

What I meant was he has "grown" in the sense that at the beginning of their relationship he was a little closed off. Remember when they took their first big road trip on the motorcycle and they stopped to eat and he got up from the table and wandered off and left Amy sitting there? After awhile she got up and went outside and didn't see him anywhere. That was single guy stuff...now he's more outgoing, social with her family and not so closed off...that's what I was referring to.

[LucyEth]

2 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Remember when they took their first big road trip on the motorcycle and they stopped to eat and he got up from the table and wandered off and left Amy sitting there?

Yeah, that was weird and rude.

[DonnaMae]

3 minutes ago, LucyEth said:

Remember when they took their first big road trip on the motorcycle and they stopped to eat and he got up from the table and wandered off and left Amy sitting there?

He probably didn't want to be in a selfie.  Little did he know then that in the future he would usually be in the background of Amy's many selfie photos.

[Spazamanaz]

2 minutes ago, DonnaMae said:

He probably didn't want to be in a selfie.  Little did he know then that in the future he would usually be in the background of Amy's many selfie photos.

Yah he better get used to it!

[all4mom2]

Chris said early on that he feared Amy's temper, yet he saw it then and has seen it regularly since.  Guess he's gotten used to it...or even learned to like it!

[stoppro]

little people big trolls

[Irate Panda]

I think Chris was at the singles painting party, but Amy spent the time with some other guy.  I forget his name maybe Bill, Bob, Tom,who knows? 😂 I think he was at the pool party too maybe. Did that guy ever appear with Amy on any of the other episodes? I guess I wonder if Amy dated any of these guys at the party or paint night or just went on the motorcycle ride with Chris and it was the start of the StoryOfAmyrAndChrisM.  I’d thought maybe Amy would want to date around a little since it seemed maybe she hadn’t before.  Maybe she did, but I was only watching the show on and off or maybe she did and the guys didn’t want to be on tv.

[ginger90]

Quick preview:

 

 

[all4mom2]

Is the implication that somehow poor Amy was robbed of "the fairy tale event" the first time around by big, bad Matt?  From the looks of her wedding photos, it looked pretty fairy tale to me, poofy white dress and all the bells and whistles.

[EllaWycliffe]

She's allowed. I find it silly and wasteful, personally but we all have our wants and desires. Whatever the prior wedding was like, Amy wants this one done a certain way. 

[LucyEth]

LOL!  "My man" is on tear wiping duty.  🤣😂

[stoppro]

 lol "my man" should heading for the border lest he be killed by amy's delightful raw garlic chicken  and other equally evil  kitchen 'delights' and rotting food all over hands etc.

[Joan of Argh]

“I WANT that fairy tale event, this really means a lot to ME!”

this entire wedding is about what Amy wants, I haven’t seen a single thing that Chris wants…. She’s such a peacock… look at meeeee!!!  🦚 

21 minutes ago, LucyEth said:

LOL!  "My man" is on tear wiping duty.  🤣😂

Chris has a toddler to look after, dabbing her tears, adjusting her clothes, pushing her hair out of her face, patting her back, wiping her mouth, giving her a little kiss… good grief..it’s embarrassing.

[AZChristian]

This is not a storybook romance.  He doesn't appear to be a prince, and she is definitely not charming.

[EllaWycliffe]

Amy and Chris are heading to Matt's barn office. To accept Matt's offer for the use of the farm for the wedding. Oh god no one cares this much about the wedding venue and why you're choosing it. Its Aug 28th. Matt thinks its healthy for the family and immediately starts with how he doesn't want to move the little church again.  This somehow leads into discussing the log cabin and Chris and Matt share man love over the log cabin. Matt hopes she doesn't become Bridezilla. Chris misses his own space to Matt, but later admits he was joking. Chris thinks they're casual friends, not likely to go out for drinks.

At Zach and Tory's, Lilah is standing but not walking and Tory notes she's a little behind. Jackson apparently craves attention, so they are going sledding. I don't find small children this interesting.

Matt is sitting outside and Caryn meets him. And now there's more wedding talk and Matt notes its key for him to stay out of Amy's business. Matt and Caryn apparently have no interest in attending the wedding. They both note no projects in August. Then they talk about rebuilding Caryn's deck.

Now Amy and Chris are doing a puzzle for the cameras. Amy notes Chris is now officially late with his invite list. Chris admits to texting Matt about stocks and also clearly enjoys needling Amy but Amy also seems to get that he's not that close. This is endless and boring and segue ways to Amy saying she wants the fantasy wedding. 

At Caryn's place, she's ripping out the deck while Matt scores her for expression and technique. They debate about who's idea it was to do a new deck. Caryn seems to really like her new house. Matt has a giant plan to redo the whole backyard. Somehow Matt has planned a "monolith" for the yard. Caryn kinda likes it, and clearly kinda hates it too since she starts crossing stuff off the list while Matt looks amused and annoyed.

At the farm, Zach and Matt tool about in the atv on the farm. They rehash "Mom is doing the wedding on the farm". This is mostly reminiscing in the woods.  Zach is worried about giving Jackson one on one time. 

Amy and Chris go to the farmer's market and discusss merging their bank accounts. Amy notes that she plans to pay more attention to finances because she didn't insist with Matt and has regrets. Chris is fine with that. Amy then asks for his list of guests. They discuss bickering and quirks. Amy sees nothing wrong with Chris. Chris notes that Amy leaves drawers open and doesn't hang up her jacket. They have an amusing discussion over loading the dishwasher.

At Caryn's place, Matt is gifting her with one of his special chairs  - that "he's building" even though he's not, and is just buying custom made chairs from a company in Portland. Also apparently Matt is getting his way on the deck design.

Amy is over at Zach and Tory's. More wedding talk - Amy notes that her first wedding had to be planned very quickly and Matt really wanted to elope so a quickly planned wedding was a compromise.  They discuss the "save the date" mailers. I just want to die. Zach and Tory tease Amy about her planning skillz. 

Now Tory, Zach and Jackson plan to go sledding on Mount Hood. There's Murphy playing with Bruno and then Zack and Jackson  crash the sled. Jackson wisely notes that this was dangerous, Zach sorta runs over Murphy. Then Tory goes down in a tube and its a scary crash but she's fine. Finally they figure out how to get down the mountain without traumatizing the kid. They really need a plot generator.

[all4mom2]

Matt didn't say he didn't want to move the chapel.  He asked if Amy was going to want the chapel moved, because he would kind of have to know that in order to get it done, and Amy got all defensive about him getting up in her wedding stuff.

I wonder how long Chris will be able to pass off his honesty as "just kidding"???

[LucyEth]

The truest things are said in jest, right "my man"!

[all4mom2]

3 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Chris has a toddler to look after, dabbing her tears, adjusting her clothes, pushing her hair out of her face, patting her back, wiping her mouth, giving her a little kiss… good grief..it’s embarrassing.

Didn't he even say that going around closing all the doors and drawers behind her every day was like cleaning up after a child?  Good thing he's into that!

[SunnyBeBe]

Well, if we believe Matt and Caryn, I guess I’m half wrong on my prediction.  I predicted they would attend the wedding on the farm.  Nonetheless, I’m going to wait it out. I still think I may be right.  🤫

I thought that Zach and Tori were borderline rude to Amy when she came over to chat about the wedding plans.  It’s fun to plan and get feedback.  I’m not sure why they were so short with her.  

Edited July 7, 2021 by SunnyBeBe

[SunnyBeBe]

I was a little surprised when Amy said that she wished she had more friends and Chris said, Well, be more friendly!  Lol

[Jeanne222]

Interesting.  Amy ‘s looking really bad. Dark circles and sunken eyes.  Stress!

Caryn called to watch Lilah for the  sledding trip. Strange Amy never volunteers or gets mad at that since she gets mad at everything else. 

Since filming and showing is so far apart Amy will be married next month in August.   Maybe we won’t have to endure many more cooking videos even though they are a hoot!

I get confused sometimes since in real time Matt is doing some building. I have to wonder where they are for real?  Will it upset wedding plans. 
 

Matt and Caryn not attending the wedding?  Humm.  With the whole family coming in for the wedding that kind of surprises me. 

[SunnyBeBe]

Matt and Caryn seemed to imply they would be out of town on the wedding date, but......I’ll stand by my prediction til the thing is over.  
 

When Tori and Zach said they were taking just Jackson sledding for the day, I wonder why Amy didn’t say, I can keep Lyla......hmmm....I’m not sure what the deal is on that.  Maybe, Amy has to be free during the day to video her cooking shows.  🥴

 

[bichonblitz]

7 hours ago, LucyEth said:

LOL!  "My man" is on tear wiping duty.  🤣😂

I can't. I just can't. What is going on with Chris? It's like he doesn't know what he's supposed to do on camera. How about keeping your paws off your little pet for starters? 

 

3 hours ago, all4mom2 said:

Didn't he even say that going around closing all the doors and drawers behind her every day was like cleaning up after a child?

Who the hell leaves drawers open all over the house? That would drive me nuts, too. 

3 hours ago, EllaWycliffe said:

Now Tory, Zach and Jackson plan to go sledding on Mount Hood

They are just not that interesting.  Z and T are becoming increasingly full of themselves. TLC get a grip and cancel this mess. But first I want to see this farytale wedding!

[Irate Panda]

That Save the Date scene was awkward and it’s not like a scene with Matt where I can write off they’re hamming it up for ratings.  Are Tori and Zach supposed to be irritated with Amy for some particular reason?  

Jackson needed a helmet and to be rolled in bubble wrap for that trip. 

Chris’ “jokes” get more and more frequent the closer to the we get to the wedding.  I’m waiting for Chris to announce he took Matt on a motorcycle ride and let him seat in “Amy’s seat”.

[SunnyBeBe]

Didn’t Amy and Chris get some kind of invitation for something at Caryn’s house again?  Amy snarked about how she wasn’t up for continuing to go over there....maybe that’s for next week.  Anyway, I’m now imagining how things will work if Chris and her ex keep getting closer.....the couples coming up on a ski lift together....Matt and Caryn in one lift with Amy and Chris behind them...all smiles, except for Amy, who’s bundled up with her face buried into her parka.  🤣Or, the two couples golfing, the ladies in one cart and the men in the other......lol.  I know that this is likely contrived for the show but it really does make me laugh!

Edited July 7, 2021 by SunnyBeBe

[Irate Panda]

14 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Didn’t Amy and Chris get some kind of invitation for something at Caryn’s house again?  Amy snarked about how she wasn’t up for continuing to go over there....maybe that’s for next week.  Anyway, I’m now imagining how things will work if Chris and her ex keep getting closer.....the couples coming up on a ski lift together....Matt and Caryn in one lift with Amy and Chris behind them...all smiles, except for Amy, who’s bundled up with her face buried into her parka.  🤣Or, the two couples golfing, the ladies in one cart and the men in the other......lol.  I know that this is likely contrived for the show but it really does make me laugh!

Chris and Amy were invited to go over and see Karen’s new house/deck. I can see this as just something to film, but if it were real, you could say that Karen and Matt are returning the favor of being invited to Amy’s new house.  
 

I wonder how Amy reacts when Chris interacts with his exes instead of her ex.  I mean since Chris is friends with all his exes there should be some interaction.  Chris, the correct answer to what is your current relationship with Matt  is not casual friends; it’s mortal enemies.
 

 

[zenme]

2 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Well, if we believe Matt and Caryn, I guess I’m half wrong on my prediction.  I predicted they would attend the wedding on the farm.  Nonetheless, I’m going to wait it out. I still think I may be right.  🤫

I thought that Zach and Tori were borderline rude to Amy when she came over to chat about the wedding plans.  It’s fun to plan and get feedback.  I’m not sure why they were so short with her.  

I agree. I think the fact that  ChaCha watches the kids more than Amy does is somehow related to what we perceive to be rude behavior on Tori and Zach’s part. Hmm… What don’t we know?

[SunnyBeBe]

Well, as far as Amy....I recall back a few seasons. Zach, Tori, Jer and Auj were sitting together reflecting....somehow Tori popped up and said something about Amy going off....and they all agreed.  It might have been when they ( adult kids) were talking marriage.  It surprised me.  Then, even earlier Jer and Auj were talking about their disapproval of something at Amy’s house...I couldn’t tell if they meant drinking, fornicating or something else.   Not that they are the moral police, but I’m just trying to figure out the cause of the issue....recall Amy has cared for the kids in their house.  I don’t blame Amy for not going there due to the large dog. He would need to be secured somewhere else.  There’s probably more to it though. 

Edited July 7, 2021 by SunnyBeBe

[all4mom2]

I remember an old episode when Caryn was holding Jackson (he was still a baby) at pumpkin season and Amy was having a cow about it, saying in her TH that "that's MY grandchild!"  But I imagine babysitting would interfere with bike rides, road trips, soup night, girl talk, cooking videos, walks with Felix, selfies, and whatever #amyandchrism get up to.  #secondact isn't raising kids all over again!

I also recall an early scene of Amy babysitting baby Jackson while Z&T went on a "date" to an ice cream shop.  Zach admonished her to pay attention to J and not be on the phone all night; then they came home early and walked in to find her on her phone!  That was when she was being a social butterfly with her singles group before singling out Chris.

Edited July 7, 2021 by all4mom2

[all4mom2]

What was Amy even crying about?  I have my guesses (reminiscing re: her wedding with Matt).  I noticed she rhapsodized, in another scene, about HER event; me, me, meeeeee!  Poor Chris really is just a bit player.  Something tells me she wouldn't even mind if the union dissolved at some point after, as long as she beats her ex to the altar and gets to be queen for a day!  Also, is fish Henry living in a table lamp?

Edited July 7, 2021 by all4mom2

[Irate Panda]

1 hour ago, all4mom2 said:

What was Amy even crying about?  I have my guesses (reminiscing re: her wedding with Matt).  I noticed she rhapsodized, in another scene, about HER event; me, me, meeeeee!  Poor Chris really is just a bit player.  Something tells me she wouldn't even mind if the union dissolved at some point after, as long as she beats her ex to the altar and gets to be queen for a day!  Also, is fish Henry living in a table lamp?

You’re better than I am because I’ve been trying to figure out what that thing was and I just ended up going with an old fancy empty industrial-sized jar of hot Hungarian paprika.

[LucyEth]

10 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

thought that Zach and Tori were borderline rude to Amy when she came over to chat about the wedding plans.  It’s fun to plan and get feedback.  I’m not sure why they were so short with her.  

Probably because they think a whole big dog and pony show wedding at her age and her situation is absurd.

 

10 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

can't. I just can't. What is going on with Chris? It's like he doesn't know what he's supposed to do on camera. How about keeping your paws off your little pet for starters? 

Yes, that is the way he treats her like a little pet or some kind of cuddly stuffed animal a kid would carry around.  The pulling out of the tissue almost on queue and wiping her tears while she sat there like a show pony was laughable and creepy.

 

10 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

They are just not that interesting.  Z and T are becoming increasingly full of themselves.

Same thing every week with these two, they sit around their living room talk about how their children are fearless, brave and gutsy.  Give me a break.  The forced family fun sledding adventure was all for the benefit of TLC, they needed something to film with that bunch.  Tori looked like she was reenacting the Clark Griswold sledding scene from Christmas vacation.  Zach can provide no protection for Jackson and he should not do these types of things with just Zach.  

 

58 minutes ago, all4mom2 said:

Also, is fish Henry living in a table lamp?

He is living in a fancy beverage dispenser, it has a spigot on it🤣

What's up with Amy saying "oh brotherS" the expression  is  "oh brother" singular.  

 

[Irate Panda]

2 minutes ago, LucyEth said:

Probably because they think a whole big dog and pony show wedding at her age and her situation is absurd.

 

Yes, that is the way he treats her like a little pet or some kind of cuddly stuffed animal a kid would carry around.  The pulling out of the tissue almost on queue and wiping her tears while she sat there like a show pony was laughable and creepy.

 

Same thing every week with these two, they sit around their living room talk about how their children are fearless, brave and gutsy.  Give me a break.  The forced family fun sledding adventure was all for the benefit of TLC, they needed something to film with that bunch.  Tori looked like she was reenacting the Clark Griswold sledding scene from Christmas vacation.  Zach can provide no protection for Jackson and he should not do these types of things with just Zach.  

 

He is living in a fancy beverage dispenser, it has a spigot on it🤣

What's up with Amy saying "oh brotherS" the expression  is  "oh brother" singular.  

 

Maybe I heard things wrong but did Amy say Save the Day during the weird conversation with Z&T and Tori quickly corrected her with Save the DATE? 

[LucyEth]

3 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

Maybe I heard things wrong but did Amy say Save the Day during the weird conversation with Z&T and Tori quickly corrected her with Save the DATE? 

Yes, she said save the Day.  "Oh brotherS". 😉

[LucyEth]

Home of Henry

[all4mom2]

#thecaptivityofhenrymandchrism

[SunnyBeBe]

36 minutes ago, LucyEth said:

Home of Henry

I don’t think it’s humane.  Is it for real?

[all4mom2]

27 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I don’t think it’s humane.  Is it for real?

Betta are solitary (they'll fight and kill each other in pairs) and are often kept in simple fish bowls so, technically, it's "adequate."  But it can't be much of a life...

Edited July 7, 2021 by all4mom2

[SunnyBeBe]

53 minutes ago, all4mom2 said:

Betta are solitary (they'll fight and kill each other in pairs) and are often kept in simple fish bowls so, technically, it's "adequate."  But it can't be much of a life...

I’m no expert, but I read that they still need 3 gallons. And they get their oxygen from the surface , so why cover up the container?  Odd. 
 

Well, Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton compromised on their wedding. Fancy top, tux shirt, jacket for Blake, but with jeans. Lol.  Gwen is in her fifties, but went all out with white gown, huge cake, etc.  I think Amy has the right to have the wedding she wants, even if it is her second.  I hope she has good weather.  The last several outdoor weddings I attended had huge downpours.  It worked out, but makes it stressful on the bride and wedding party.  

[bichonblitz]

How much longer are we going to be subjected to the Matt and Chris bromance? I get the feeling Chris is alot more enamored with Matt than Matt is with Chris. I don't think Matt gives a shit. Chris is so weird. If I were Amy I would pull Chris aside away from the camera and tell him to stop with the sly jokes on her behalf. I wouldn't care if TLC is putting him up to it and  I wouldn't care how funny he thinks he is. It's disrespectful to her. She will never feel comfortable around her lying, cheating ex and his girlfriend. He needs to stop. 

Edited July 7, 2021 by bichonblitz

[all4mom2]

13 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I’m no expert, but I read that they still need 3 gallons. And they get their oxygen from the surface , so why cover up the container?  Odd. 
 

Well, Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton compromised on their wedding. Fancy top, tux shirt, jacket for Blake, but with jeans. Lol.  Gwen is in her fifties, but went all out with white gown, huge cake, etc.  I think Amy has the right to have the wedding she wants, even if it is her second.  I hope she has good weather.  The last several outdoor weddings I attended had huge downpours.  It worked out, but makes it stressful on the bride and wedding party.  

I kept one in a small fish bowl before I became empathetic and knew better, and he lived several years, so they don't require a lot of water.  I didn't cover the top, however!

[EllaWycliffe]

2 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

I get the feeling Chris is alot more enamored with Matt than Matt is with Chris.

I get the feeling Chris is more amused by Matt than anything else.

 

5 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

I don't think Matt gives a shit.

I think Matt started the whole bromance thing and now realizes Chris probably isn't easily manipulated and lost interest. I've noticed that people who are Matt's friends tend to be people easily manipulated into doing major favors for Matt.

"Not easily manipulated" is also why I think Matt dislikes Audrey - she took control of his favorite toy and won't give it back. 

15 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

If I were Amy I would pull Chris aside away from the camera and tell him to stop with the sly jokes on her behalf.

To me the bigger red flag is that she's expressed numerous times that she really doesn't want Chris to be friends with Matt, and Chris seems to take a lot of amusement in explaining how he and Matt text each other. Whether Chris thinks they should be pals or not, she's not asking for an unreasonable boundary here.  She's not ok with it, and she's communicated that pretty clearly. 

[bichonblitz]

1 minute ago, EllaWycliffe said:

"Not easily manipulated" is also why I think Matt dislikes Audrey - she took control of his favorite toy and won't give it back. 

I had no idea. Does he dislike Audrey? I would like to know more about that!

[EllaWycliffe]

1 minute ago, bichonblitz said:

I had no idea. Does he dislike Audrey? I would like to know more about that!

In my opinion, at least. Thats partly gut instincts - I think Audrey and Matt share a lot of personality issues (Jeremy married his dad) and Matt never seems to try any of his passive aggressive games with her. Thats also why I don't think Jeremy will ever get the farm, because it gives Audrey a toehold to drive Matt off the land. And she would - I don't think Auj likes either of her in-laws. 

[SunnyBeBe]

I never got a negative vibe from Matt towards Auj.  After the marriage, Matt was very enthusiastic for Jer to take over the farm.  That would entail Auj moving there too.  But, Jer said he wasn’t ready.  I wondered why, but it was a smart move. He wasn’t ready, based on what I’ve seen since.  It looks like it’s just not his thing.  Matt’s probably relieved it didn’t happen.  

[all4mom2]

Matt and Auj always seemed to get along (laughed together a lot), as far as I could see...  Obviously Jer and the farm just weren't meant to be, or - who knows - maybe it will all work out in the end.  Zach and the farm don't seem to be meant to be, either.

Edited July 7, 2021 by all4mom2

[Joan of Argh]

JMO but I think the cold shoulder that Amy got from Zach and Tori comes from Zach making it very clear that he doesn’t want to discuss his parents new relationships on camera, he doesn’t want to talk about his moms wedding to a new partner or listen to her excitement and plans.

Amy didn’t need to go to Zach and Tori to find out how “Save the Date” works.. its a topic that’s easily googled but Amy just had to run over to Zach and Tori and gush about her wedding and Zach doesn’t want to be involved or listen to it, Tori knows that it makes Zach uncomfortable so she also gave Amy the cold shoulder and tried to end the discussion.