S12.E01: "The Great DIvide"

[HunterHunted]

4 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

You have every right to be upset, that was horrible.  No relative or family friend to help you out?

We had family friends who would pick me up once a week to go grocery shopping, but the rest of our relatives were in Africa or the D.C. area and I didn't grow up anywhere near D.C. In a certain sense, it could have been way worse. I have a much younger cousin whose parents decided to move from D.C. to Arizona while she was at summer camp. They didn't tell her or her siblings. My terrible aunt and uncle never intended on having any of their kids making the move with them. My younger cousin finished her senior year of high school living with her older sisters. She also had leukemia as a child. Yes, it could have been so much worse. This nonsense with my relatives happened during the last 7 or 8 years. On paper that aunt and uncle looked like exemplary human beings, but they are completely terrible.

3 hours ago, Hockey Addict said:

Vicky doesn't like being a con woman? Ok. Con woman, con woman, con woman, con woman.

I'm so perplexed by Vicki's fixation on being called a con woman by Tamra. Shannon and Megan also called Vicki a con woman. Heather never out right said it, but she heavily implied that she thought Vicki was a con woman. Most of the people who view this show have indicated that they think Vicki is/was a con woman. Why fixate on Tamra? The vast majority of people who know who Vicki Gunvalson is, think she is not to be trusted. You would think that she'd use this as an opportunity to be introspective. But she's someone with a shockingly low level of introspection and interiority. 

[mittsigirl]

3 hours ago, Emmeline said:

You can do it!  I would read.  People love somewhere to go for support and encouragement!

Okay, I will seriously consider it!

3 hours ago, Emmeline said:

You can do it!  I would read.  People love somewhere to go for support and encouragement!

I am sweating just thinking about doing it!!

But seriously thinking about it:)

Thanks for the encouragement!

[mittsigirl]

7 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

Shannon.....what an insufferable bitch! Getting in a tiff with David over his response to how her quinoa tasted? He said it was "good" Shannon. And THAT is giving quinoa a lot more credit than it deserves. Why are you making your husband eat food he doesn't like (and doesn't even know what it is you're serving!) David is probably salivating for a good steak and potatoes dinner. But he gets quinoa because YOU need to lose weight. Shannon is a bitch....no matter what she weighs.

Right!! My husband would likely divorce me if he had to eat a ton of raw veggies every day, and drink my special drinks, just because I am the one who needs to lose the weight! He wants his meat and potatoes, and quinoa would never cut it. Poor David, I thought he was polite with his responce of 'good'.

[zoeysmom]

Sounds like Shannon is addressing the weight gain head on: 

[mittsigirl]

13 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Maybe this will work as a substitute re-cap.  There are some very funny passages, some very unPC funny passages.  https://www.trashtalktv.com/07/12/rhoc-season-12-premier-jesus-is-the-7th-housewife/413476/

Thanks!!

[ghoulina]

Okay, I'm going to say it - what if Shannon gained weight FOR the show? The cheating thing is beyond stale. And most people are tired of Vicki. So maybe she wanted to find a new way to stay the victim, have people feeling sorry for her. Maybe it wasn't even conscious. And I'm not saying weight gain like that can't just happen. But her post about how real and relatable she is made me suspicious. 

[walnutqueen]

On 7/13/2017 at 2:00 PM, mittsigirl said:

She did great to lose that 50 pounds! I am not looking to get to any certain size, but I am 57, and know that as you get older, the weight gets harder to take off. Belly fat is menopausal, but it also comes from being stressed out. I have done tons of research, and for me, drinking my morning tonic really helps with the belly fat. It has to be what works best for YOUR BODY, not someone else's body, though there are many little tricks that work for all of us. I really want to start a blog to help other women my age, but sadly, I just don't have the self-confidence I need to do it:(

I NEED to know what's in your morning tonic.  Because my morning vodka & tonic ain't cutting it.  ;-)

 

21 hours ago, MatildaMoody said:

Yeah, TrashTalk is already in my recap rotation. I used to write for that site so I check it religiously. But, I like to compare the TrashTalk, Vulture, and Previously.tv recaps each week. I also try to read TamaraTattles, but she sometimes comes across as a bit unhinged in her hatred for certain housewives - especially if she feels they personally slighted her by denying something she printed as gospel.

Well, I am impressed!  No wonder I enjoy your posts.

[chenoa333]

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

Okay, I'm going to say it - what if Shannon gained weight FOR the show? The cheating thing is beyond stale. And most people are tired of Vicki. So maybe she wanted to find a new way to stay the victim, have people feeling sorry for her. Maybe it wasn't even conscious. And I'm not saying weight gain like that can't just happen. But her post about how real and relatable she is made me suspicious. 

 

That would be the most innovative (fake) storyline ever! But it would/does pique my interest to see Shannon end up all slim and sexy at the end of the season! Who doesn't love a good dose of sweet revenge? 

[ButterQueen]

I just watched the entire episode.  The opening with the beautiful water and the background screaming cracked me up.

I ff'd through everything Tamra, Lydia, bible study, and the new HW.  I don't think Tamra looks good with her new face.

I really felt sorry for Shannon....she really looked heavier.  It's so demoralizing, especially as it comes with age.  I loved the scene with Archie!!!  Surprisingly, her scenes were the best for me.  I love an honest Shannon.  She looked so uncomfortable shopping with Tamra.  If I were Shannon, I'd have Tamra or Eddie help me get in shape.

I enjoy Brianna and Vicki's relationship.....so I'll return to my table of one.

I did miss Heather.

The new HW does not fit in.  ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[nexxie]

2 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

I just watched the entire episode.  The opening with the beautiful water and the background screaming cracked me up.

So glad you mentioned the opening - that was great.

Spoiled rich chicks can't even be happy in paradise!

[walnutqueen]

OK, if Shannon can do it, so can I.  I blame Bravo, Satan Andy, and the HoWives shows for my more than menopausal belly fat.  Years of sitting on my ass watching this stuff with a necessary drink in hand has destroyed my previously svelte figure.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[ButterQueen]

I know why Meghan returned to the show---- check out her FB page.  That new baby girl has some $$$$ clothes.  

[noveltylibrary65]

On 7/10/2017 at 10:16 PM, nexxie said:

Really cute - felt sorry for her with that uncomfortable (and stupid-looking) band on her head.

absolutely I can't stand when people dress their babies like dolls esp those stupid bands.  babies are beautiful all on their own, they don't need all that stupid crap on them, I'm with her husband for once!

[film noire]

23 hours ago, walnutqueen said:

 I blame Bravo, Satan Andy, and the HoWives shows for my more than menopausal belly fat.

That's why it's called the "Change of Wife" ; )

Edited July 16, 2017 by film noire

[walnutqueen]

21 minutes ago, film noire said:

That's why it's called the "Change of Wife" ; )

Wish I had a wife!  (One who cleans, gardens, and cooks delicious meals, that is.)  ;-D

[VedaPierce]

20 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

We had family friends who would pick me up once a week to go grocery shopping, but the rest of our relatives were in Africa or the D.C. area and I didn't grow up anywhere near D.C. In a certain sense, it could have been way worse. I have a much younger cousin whose parents decided to move from D.C. to Arizona while she was at summer camp. They didn't tell her or her siblings. My terrible aunt and uncle never intended on having any of their kids making the move with them. My younger cousin finished her senior year of high school living with her older sisters. She also had leukemia as a child. Yes, it could have been so much worse. This nonsense with my relatives happened during the last 7 or 8 years. On paper that aunt and uncle looked like exemplary human beings, but they are completely terrible.

I'm so perplexed by Vicki's fixation on being called a con woman by Tamra. Shannon and Megan also called Vicki a con woman. Heather never out right said it, but she heavily implied that she thought Vicki was a con woman. Most of the people who view this show have indicated that they think Vicki is/was a con woman. Why fixate on Tamra? The vast majority of people who know who Vicki Gunvalson is, think she is not to be trusted. You would think that she'd use this as an opportunity to be introspective. But she's someone with a shockingly low level of introspection and interiority. 

I disagree with everybody that calls Vickie a conwoman. She's NOT a conwoman by any means. She's a FAILED conwoman. She conned NO ONE. EVER. everyone can see her lies and deceptions coming a mile away. She's not smart enough to be a conwoman. Though she has the morals of one, and tried awfully hard. 

[QQQQ]

I blame my recent weight gain on the stress induced by watching the train wreck that is this show.

[VedaPierce]

17 hours ago, mittsigirl said:

Right!! My husband would likely divorce me if he had to eat a ton of raw veggies every day, and drink my special drinks, just because I am the one who needs to lose the weight! He wants his meat and potatoes, and quinoa would never cut it. Poor David, I thought he was polite with his responce of 'good'.

Shannon needs constant stroking and praising and reassurance. She also always needs you to greet her with a great, big, enthusiastic smile! David really should have said "no way!  Quinoa??? I was hoping it was quinoa!!! Again! Yay!! Thank you, beautiful, thin Shannon! Thank you! What was I thinking when I cheated on you?? You are THE BEST!" There. That would have made for a great night.

Edited July 15, 2017 by VedaPierce

[ButterQueen]

1 hour ago, noveltylibrary65 said:

absolutely I can't stand when people dress their babies like dolls esp those stupid bands.  babies are beautiful all on their own, they don't need all that stupid crap on them, I'm with her husband for once!

Meghan put one on her newborn DD right after giving birth.  I have to say, she's adorable.

[Gam2]

Do y'all think Shannon is being real with this "I've gained 40 lbs due to the stress from Vicki",  everyone in my family has to go on a diet of the dreaded quinoa because I'm so fat, David's affair has ruined my life, my weight, my mental stability or whatever the hell she says to blame everyone else for her failings? This woman needs a really qualified psychiatrist and not that quack marriage counselor she and David had last year. I won't watch this show in the new season but will read what y'all have to say here. This has just become too painful to watch. Thanks, all, for the snark!

[chenoa333]

30 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

Do y'all think Shannon is being real with this "I've gained 40 lbs due to the stress from Vicki",  everyone in my family has to go on a diet of the dreaded quinoa because I'm so fat, David's affair has ruined my life, my weight, my mental stability or whatever the hell she says to blame everyone else for her failings? This woman needs a really qualified psychiatrist and not that quack marriage counselor she and David had last year. I won't watch this show in the new season but will read what y'all have to say here. This has just become too painful to watch. Thanks, all, for the snark!

Please come back here to read the snark and cutting wit so many PTer's have to offer! We replace the pain of watching these sluts with refreshing, candid, witty, honest viewpoints on them. Hell, they're getting  paid ridiculous amounts of money to put themselves in the public eye so we WILL make them earn their money!

[Gam2]

Thank you! I will definitely do that! Thanks for your reply.

[HunterHunted]

On 7/14/2017 at 6:21 PM, Hockey Addict said:

Why does everyone in kelly's house sound rehearsed?

It's because a script was the only way that Jolie was going to make sure people stopped saying the Dodds needed a guardian--Jolie.

[nexxie]

1 hour ago, ButterQueen said:

Meghan put one on her newborn DD right after giving birth.  I have to say, she's adorable.

Aspen is definitely adorable - but Meghan should have to wear one of those uncomfortable headbands whenever she puts one on her daughter.

[ButterQueen]

3 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Aspen is definitely adorable - but Meghan should have to wear one of those uncomfortable headbands whenever she puts one on her daughter.

I don't care for the elastic ones, but the thicker cloth ones are ok.  Aspen is dressed from head to toe in every picture.  I love Meghan's taste in baby clothes.

1 hour ago, Gam2 said:

Do y'all think Shannon is being real with this "I've gained 40 lbs due to the stress from Vicki",  everyone in my family has to go on a diet of the dreaded quinoa because I'm so fat, David's affair has ruined my life, my weight, my mental stability or whatever the hell she says to blame everyone else for her failings? This woman needs a really qualified psychiatrist and not that quack marriage counselor she and David had last year. I won't watch this show in the new season but will read what y'all have to say here. This has just become too painful to watch. Thanks, all, for the snark!

I think blaming Vicki is silly, but I believe menopause is the real culprit.  It's hard to reconcile the weight gain with all the other horrible symptoms the menopause bitch throws at you.  I know it was hard for me, I felt horrible and it took me a year to lose the 20 pounds.

I do hope Shannon is in counseling regarding David's affair.  She seems broken, and I'm not sure she will ever fully trust David again.  I know I couldn't.

[Anne Thrax]

On 7/11/2017 at 8:25 AM, motorcitymom65 said:

I love Lydia's mother. I was thinking she was the only one I might see on my TV from this franchise this year that I actually like. 

To each her own, darlin'    ;-)

[Anne Thrax]

On 7/11/2017 at 1:54 PM, Michichick said:

iTunes has the first episode of season 12.

Do you have to have an apple device to access iTunes?  (sorry, dinosaur here)

[ITALIA]

3 hours ago, VedaPierce said:

I disagree with everybody that calls Vickie a conwoman. She's NOT a conwoman by any means. She's a FAILED conwoman. She conned NO ONE. EVER. everyone can see her lies and deceptions coming a mile away. She's not smart enough to be a conwoman. Though she has the morals of one, and tried awfully hard. 

Vicki aka Miss PIGGY is such a LOSER. Major liar and a homely bitch.

[Sew Sumi]

oops, wrong thread :/

Edited July 16, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[RHofOZ]

Anne Thrax  No you don't you can access ITunes on a laptop or PC. You just need to download iTunes.

Edited July 16, 2017 by RHofOZ

[smores]

Shannon is just exhausting.  Everything with her is high drama and she's so high strung, I just can't with her.  If you don't say what she wants/needs to hear in just the right way, then you'll pay for it.  I don't know that she is like this in a malicious way, but it's just too much.

I wish Vicki would go away.  The only thing I have to add that I haven't already seen about her is that even though she had a facelift, I don't think she's looking all that great.  When she was with her popular girl friend, her skin was looking awfully crinkly.  

Tamra isn't bothering me so far, but I need the bible study to go away.  I don't care if Tamra or Lydia discuss things in terms of being a Christian.  I don't care if they say they're going to pray for others, etc.  What I don't want on my screen is the actual dissecting of the bible verse, I didn't sign up for bible study, I don't go to it for a reason, so don't bring it to my living room.  Hopefully they'll back off of that now that they've reintroduced Lydia.  I am not thrilled to see her back, I didn't like her the first go round.

[diadochokinesis]

5 hours ago, VedaPierce said:

I disagree with everybody that calls Vickie a conwoman. She's NOT a conwoman by any means. She's a FAILED conwoman. She conned NO ONE. EVER. everyone can see her lies and deceptions coming a mile away. She's not smart enough to be a conwoman. Though she has the morals of one, and tried awfully hard. 

I hate to say it but there are a ton of people who bought the lies. Her FB was FILLED with them (and they are still there). They were all over the Club Detox saying that they were going to buy it for their ____ that has cancer. They've begged for positions in her company. It is absolutely nuts. 

6 hours ago, noveltylibrary65 said:

absolutely I can't stand when people dress their babies like dolls esp those stupid bands.  babies are beautiful all on their own, they don't need all that stupid crap on them, I'm with her husband for once!

I was one of those moms!  LOL!  I'm Southern though. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!  The bigger the hair(bow), the closer to God!  

3 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

I don't care for the elastic ones, but the thicker cloth ones are ok.  Aspen is dressed from head to toe in every picture.  I love Meghan's taste in baby clothes.

I think blaming Vicki is silly, but I believe menopause is the real culprit.  It's hard to reconcile the weight gain with all the other horrible symptoms the menopause bitch throws at you.  I know it was hard for me, I felt horrible and it took me a year to lose the 20 pounds.

I do hope Shannon is in counseling regarding David's affair.  She seems broken, and I'm not sure she will ever fully trust David again.  I know I couldn't.

 

I mainly bought the crochet elastic bands and then you could clip different flowers onto them. They were very soft and not tight at all. I found that you just had to test out each band because some would be tighter than others. I had one that was just a thin elastic that would keep sliding off my daughter's head because it was so loose and a thick cloth one that I could barely slide on her head because it had no give in the fabric. 

[walnutqueen]

4 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

Please come back here to read the snark and cutting wit so many PTer's have to offer! We replace the pain of watching these sluts with refreshing, candid, witty, honest viewpoints on them. Hell, they're getting  paid ridiculous amounts of money to put themselves in the public eye so we WILL make them earn their money!

WE should be paid ridiculous amounts of money for our most excellent snarkasm.  Get on it, Satan Andy!

 

3 hours ago, nexxie said:

Aspen is definitely adorable - but Meghan should have to wear one of those uncomfortable headbands whenever she puts one on her daughter.

I think Meghan already did the uncomfortable (to us viewers, at least) headbandanna thingy last season ...

[Sew Sumi]

Too soon to get into the helmet, but that had to be filmed. I think Aspen is already out of it. 

[nexxie]

3 hours ago, walnutqueen said:

I think Meghan already did the uncomfortable (to us viewers, at least) headbandanna thingy last season ...

Ha! That's right - it looked just as silly on her.

[HunterHunted]

16 hours ago, VedaPierce said:

I disagree with everybody that calls Vickie a conwoman. She's NOT a conwoman by any means. She's a FAILED conwoman. She conned NO ONE. EVER. everyone can see her lies and deceptions coming a mile away. She's not smart enough to be a conwoman. Though she has the morals of one, and tried awfully hard. 

Maybe that's Vicki's issue. She's being a pedant. She wants to clarify that she's never pulled off a successful con. I suppose you might be upset if someone called you a murderer and you had been arrested before you committed the crime. You're an attempted murderer, but no one is dead. Vicki is obsessed with labels. She's the OG of the OC. She's an attempted conwoman or a thwarted conwoman if she wants it seem like she was closer to being successful in her scamming pursuits.

[Ubiquitous]

19 hours ago, VedaPierce said:

I disagree with everybody that calls Vickie a conwoman. She's NOT a conwoman by any means. She's a FAILED conwoman. She conned NO ONE. EVER. everyone can see her lies and deceptions coming a mile away. She's not smart enough to be a conwoman. Though she has the morals of one, and tried awfully hard. 

I know what yuou mean, but it seems some people fell for it at first, until Inspector Meghan got on the case!

[nexxie]

20 minutes ago, Ubiquitous said:

I know what yuou mean, but it seems some people fell for it at first, until Inspector Meghan got on the case!

I'd like to see Meghan do more sleuthing this season.

[zoeysmom]

17 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

 

I think blaming Vicki is silly, but I believe menopause is the real culprit.  It's hard to reconcile the weight gain with all the other horrible symptoms the menopause bitch throws at you.  I know it was hard for me, I felt horrible and it took me a year to lose the 20 pounds.

I do hope Shannon is in counseling regarding David's affair.  She seems broken, and I'm not sure she will ever fully trust David again.  I know I couldn't.

Shannon has pretty much backtracked from her ridiculous assertion.  I feel for Shannon last year Kelly pointed out her chin hairs and this season she is carrying around a lot of extra weight. 

I have always felt Shannon would feel like she was the bad guy if she didn't give David another chance,  I think some her weight gain might have as much to do with securing rejecting from David so she doesn't have to face the fact she can't get over the affair and be the one pull the plug.  Maybe she feels like she would let her girls down if she left the marriage after all the downs they experienced as a family. 

[VedaPierce]

2 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

I know what yuou mean, but it seems some people fell for it at first, until Inspector Meghan got on the case!

Maybe in the verrrry beginning.....but she never really succeeded in peddling those crappy 'cancer-curin' smoothies, not really. She had to shut down her so-called charity, which was really just a fishing expedition for potential insurance contacts, before she even got started. Tamra was onto her immediately and planted that seed of doubt with the 'cough-bullshit-cough' almost in the first episode. Everybody was always suspicious. Sure, maybe the initial announcement of Brooks having cancer garnered her some sympathy, but the sympathy quickly ended once the questions began and the psychic was brought in. That birthday cake for brooks in Tamra's gym was even really just a lure to corner him in one place and interrogate him. She never succeeded at what she was selling. And never got one casserole. 

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, VedaPierce said:

Maybe in the verrrry beginning.....but she never really succeeded in peddling those crappy 'cancer-curin' smoothies, not really. She had to shut down her so-called charity, which was really just a fishing expedition for potential insurance contacts, before she even got started. Tamra was onto her immediately and planted that seed of doubt with the 'cough-bullshit-cough' almost in the first episode. Everybody was always suspicious. Sure, maybe the initial announcement of Brooks having cancer garnered her some sympathy, but the sympathy quickly ended once the questions began and the psychic was brought in. That birthday cake for brooks in Tamra's gym was even really just a lure to corner him in one place and interrogate him. She never succeeded at what she was selling. And never got one casserole. 

I don't know, I think there are some here that still think Vicki was completely innocent in the attempted cancer scam and that it was all Brooks. And there were a number of people on her twitter that supported her through that entire season into last season. No, she didn't fool the other HWs that season but she did fool some viewers though. 

[noveltylibrary65]

On 7/15/2017 at 2:02 PM, walnutqueen said:

OK, if Shannon can do it, so can I.  I blame Bravo, Satan Andy, and the HoWives shows for my more than menopausal belly fat.  Years of sitting on my ass watching this stuff with a necessary drink in hand has destroyed my previously svelte figure.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

seriously! i love how it's everyone else's fault she gained weight. gmafb!

On 7/14/2017 at 7:21 PM, Hockey Addict said:

Why does everyone in kelly's house sound rehearsed?

i've always felt her mother seems drunk

[noveltylibrary65]

On 7/15/2017 at 6:13 PM, VedaPierce said:

Shannon needs constant stroking and praising and reassurance. She also always needs you to greet her with a great, big, enthusiastic smile! David really should have said "no way!  Quinoa??? I was hoping it was quinoa!!! Again! Yay!! Thank you, beautiful, thin Shannon! Thank you! What was I thinking when I cheated on you?? You are THE BEST!" There. That would have made for a great night.

LMAO

[noveltylibrary65]

On 7/14/2017 at 9:14 PM, ITALIA said:

PERFECT - you nailed it!!!

LOLL

[motorcitymom65]

On 7/15/2017 at 6:07 PM, VedaPierce said:

I disagree with everybody that calls Vickie a conwoman. She's NOT a conwoman by any means. She's a FAILED conwoman. She conned NO ONE. EVER. everyone can see her lies and deceptions coming a mile away. She's not smart enough to be a conwoman. Though she has the morals of one, and tried awfully hard. 

She has conned plenty of people. This cancer deal happened a couple of seasons ago. Wanna bet she has written new insurance policies over at Coto Insurance? That even with all of the negative national exposure she received, and even with there being plenty of other folks in and around southern California who sell similar products, she has continued to get new business? My bet is that she has (and she has probably lost some business as well). And that means she successfully pulled of a scam. Maybe not about the cancer, but about who she is which is the point.  That she could do something like that, and continue to write policies proves that she has scammed some people into believing anything that she has to say. That is the real shame of it all. 

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

She has conned plenty of people. This cancer deal happened a couple of seasons ago. Wanna bet she has written new insurance policies over at Coto Insurance? That even with all of the negative national exposure she received, and even with there being plenty of other folks in and around southern California who sell similar products, she has continued to get new business? My bet is that she has (and she has probably lost some business as well). And that means she successfully pulled of a scam. Maybe not about the cancer, but about who she is which is the point.  That she could do something like that, and continue to write policies proves that she has scammed some people into believing anything that she has to say. That is the real shame of it all. 

I am still struggling with the "partner".  She clearly said she has a partner now.  Her website doesn't list any such person.  It seems it is a four person operation-Vicki, Michael, a PR woman and a property loss person.   

I am amazed her business thrives as she has such a seedy reputation.

[teapot]

On ‎7‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 0:43 PM, Juliegirlj said:

Please, no more Bible study and praying. It's a huge dichotomy with the screeching, vain, lying, gossiping women on this show. 

 

I just remembered that "do we want a baby storyline" that Tamra had a few years ago, with the FAKE BABY!!!  at least the Bible study and weight gain are real (right?)  I'd rather feel bored than swindled...

(because my TV holds me hostage and does not let me turn it off, apparently...)

[Mu Shu]

On 7/15/2017 at 11:57 PM, walnutqueen said:

WE should be paid ridiculous amounts of money for our most excellent snarkasm.  Get on it, Satan Andy!

 

I think Meghan already did the uncomfortable (to us viewers, at least) headbandanna thingy last season ...

I want my god damned money!

[ghoulina]

On 7/15/2017 at 1:02 PM, walnutqueen said:

OK, if Shannon can do it, so can I.  I blame Bravo, Satan Andy, and the HoWives shows for my more than menopausal belly fat.  Years of sitting on my ass watching this stuff with a necessary drink in hand has destroyed my previously svelte figure.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I think it was really Jeff who made Shannon fat. 

 

1 hour ago, teapot said:

(because my TV holds me hostage and does not let me turn it off, apparently...)

Oh my gosh, I'm not alone!!!!

[walnutqueen]

1 hour ago, Mu Shu said:

I want my god damned money!

You stole my GODDAMN idea!!!  [/bony pointed finger of accusation]  ;-)