S01.E03: Quicksand

[formerlyfreedom]

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As Virginia's lies deepen, Desna plays catch-up covering their tracks. Desna still has a small shot at her dream salon, and with the help of her crew, she is determined to get it.

 

 

[SimoneS]

WTF was that? That was a dream right? Roller can't be alive.

UncleDaddy is a devious fucker. I thought he was going to beat up one of them, no wonder he did not. He set the whole thing up.

I really felt for Jennifer. What a life. Every time, you think that you are out, they pull you back in.

Virginia was hilarious with her constantly changing detailed story.

Oh, I was also glad that Manny decided to keep Desna as a client.

Edited June 26, 2017 by SimoneS

[wanderingstar]

Ugh! Please don't let Roller be alive. I hated his character.

I continue to love the Desna/Jenn relationship.

Virginia was doing way too much with that convoluted story.

[Syndicate]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Nasty man slut Roller is still alive! Let the games commence.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Syndicate

[callie lee 29]

I don't know what to think about that ending. Pay I'd me kinda wants it to be real. Roller and Des running a scam on Uncle Daddy, but that works seriously fuck up her relationship with pretty much everyone.

Virginia girl, don't you know less is more. Especially with an alibi. And can anyone tell me what happened between her talking to the chip and then her and Des being in the car? Des was telling her she didn't have to do stuff like that. I think I missed something.

[jellybean1231]

2 minutes ago, callie lee 29 said:

Virginia girl, don't you know less is more. Especially with an alibi. And can anyone tell me what happened between her talking to the chip and then her and Des being in the car? Des was telling her she didn't have to do stuff like that. I think I missed something.

I was confused by that too. Was there something I missed about prostitution? 

 

I heard that the producers of the show really liked the actor who played Roller and he was only supposed to be in the first episode but they ended up keeping him on for the full season but was she dreaming? I don't get how they could've staged everything with Virginia. Also I thought there was a little bit of blood that went down the drain, so I wonder what that was about. 

 

Did Jen previously know the guy she was square dancing with? I was kind of getting affair vibes (maybe just emotional) from that scene but maybe I'm wrong. 

 

This episode left me with so many questions!! 

[The Companion]

9 minutes ago, callie lee 29 said:

I don't know what to think about that ending. Pay I'd me kinda wants it to be real. Roller and Des running a scam on Uncle Daddy, but that works seriously fuck up her relationship with pretty much everyone.

Virginia girl, don't you know less is more. Especially with an alibi. And can anyone tell me what happened between her talking to the chip and then her and Des being in the car? Des was telling her she didn't have to do stuff like that. I think I missed something.

I believe she traded sexual favors for an alibi.

The increasingly detailed and ridiculous story was cracking me up.

[fellini]

10 minutes ago, callie lee 29 said:

I don't know what to think about that ending. Pay I'd me kinda wants it to be real. Roller and Des running a scam on Uncle Daddy, but that works seriously fuck up her relationship with pretty much everyone.

Virginia girl, don't you know less is more. Especially with an alibi. And can anyone tell me what happened between her talking to the chip and then her and Des being in the car? Des was telling her she didn't have to do stuff like that. I think I missed something.

Virginia gave the guy working at the store a bj to lie for her so her alibi would work.

[FlowerofCarnage]

Either Roller is alive or he is laying pipe that good that you're having life-like  dreams of him laying pipe!

There is always someone who wants to touch our hair. 

Edited June 26, 2017 by FlowerofCarnage

[SimoneS]

Maybe Roller is a ghost. Dean did say that Desna was having nightmares.

[Dream Boy]

45 minutes ago, fellini said:

Virginia gave the guy working at the store a bj to lie for her so her alibi would work.

Yea after he balked at the money, she asked would he do it for the money and a "hummer" 

Edited June 26, 2017 by Dream Boy

[Chick2Chic]

I love that this show keeps viewers on its toes. 

I didn't expect Virginia to offer the blow job and then the show actually let viewers see her spitting afterward. Also, I really jove Desna and Jen's friendship. 

The last few minutes revealing Uncle Daddy set up the clinic robbery and then Roller nekkid in Desna's room, although is it a dream or is he alive? If he's alive, then he and Desna are playing a hell of a con and if it's a dream, then Desna's feelings were way deeper than she stated. I feel like it could go either way since Desna really didn't want to leave Virginia at her place alone for the day. 

I know some hate Roller, but I'm in the minority and don't hate the character. He's full of himself but if the stuff at the house was a set up, then there's more going on that I want to see with him and Desna. It's not just that there's chemistry with the leads Roller being alive alters everything that has come with his "death" as well as Desna's behavior. Plus crafty Uncle Daddy in his snakeskin blazer.

[nutella fitzgerald]

I'm calling it now, Uncle Daddy is more fun to watch than Walter White. Maybe if Heisenberg had worn flashy shirts and rocked a coke nail, but I guess we'll never know.

[SimoneS]

The more I think about it, the more I think that Roller has got to be a dream. No way Desna would demand Virginia to stay with her if Roller was in and out of that house. 

[peridot]

Lol, what the hell is Virginia thinking?  Saying you were being greased up for pigs is one thing, but all the other zoo animals too?  She's too much.

I'm surprised the gas station attendant lied to the cops for $25 and a BJ, I guess he must have been hard up.

I'm glad Desna won over the stuck-up realtor, but I hated it took that much to get her full attention. The nail set that looked like a Tiffany lamp was gorgeous, I'm seriously considering getting my nails done like that.

Uncle Daddy is devious as hell, but Bryce is an idiot.  He actually let a stranger in the room full of product?  He failed the basic rule.

[Raja]

10 hours ago, Chick2Chic said:

I love that this show keeps viewers on its toes. 

I didn't expect Virginia to offer the blow job and then the show actually let viewers see her spitting afterward. Also, I really jove Desna and Jen's friendship. 

 

I didn't expect them to cut away instead of showing the simulated sex from a far shot. I guess that was just for the pilot episode.

It was later confirmed that Desna started out in the club dancing for Roller. Polly with the GPS anklet telling either a tall story or the truth about running an escort business to the little girls in her community service the occasional if not full time prostitution among Desna's girls and perhaps every woman connected to Uncle Daddy seems likely. 

[Syndicate]

Hmmm. Perhaps Desna is dreaming. I'd be fine with this for maybe a couple more episodes, but I really want actor Jack Kesy to be playing an actual character and not just pop up in nightmares. It was such a twisted ending to the episode, but that's this show for ya! I can't imagine dreaming about sexytime with someone I tried to kill and was ultimately killed by someone else right in front of me. Roller must've had powerfully good pipe!

Edited June 26, 2017 by Syndicate

[Keepitmoving]

So Quiet Ann was married. Good lord the vaginal selfie line, died laughing. That woman is nuts, again, I'm afraid for Quiet Ann.

Roller is alive, or Desna is hallucinating, which shows that she really misses Roller. I wasn't sure.

If he's alive, then I can't wait to hear why he and Desna chose to pretend that he's dead. He could have survived, I mean he only got shot once in the shoulder and he's use to coming back after being strangled, which is why he popped out of that water after Desna tried to strangle him.

Uncle Daddy, set the whole thing up.

I love Dean, he's an interesting character. Well they all are, but I really like Dean and HP is doing a great job.

No truer words Dean, with the we are living in perilous times, LOL.

By the way what did Dean say to Desna about the state of her bedroom? I heard him say that she wasn't sleeping, but I couldn't understand/hear what he said about her room?  And maybe whatever he said at the beginning of the episode about her bedroom is a clue as to what the hell is going on with the "Roller" sighting.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Keepitmoving

[HunterHunted]

12 hours ago, SimoneS said:

WTF was that? That was a dream right? Roller can't be alive.

UncleDaddy is a devious fucker. I thought he was going to beat up one of them, no wonder he did not. He set the whole thing up.

I really felt for Jennifer. What a life. Every time, you think that you are out, they pull you back in.

Virginia was hilarious with her constantly changing detailed story.

Oh, I was also glad that Manny decided to keep Desna as a client.

I think it's a dream.

They might be family, but that doesn't mean they won't fuck you over. That's a lesson that goes both ways. Uncle Daddy needed to let Bryce and Jen know that they can't fuck up and assume that he'd bail them out.

Virginia's constantly changing story was cracking me up. A See 'n' Say!!!! Luckily they are in Florida so Roller might have had a bunch of dumb tweakers in his orbit who could be blamed for his death.

Quiet Ann!!!! Married to a linguist. Ha!

[Syndicate]

Remember, Jack Kesy's "Roller" was supposed to be a "one and done" character, which explains why he was killed off in the pilot. That was supposed to be the end of the character AND the actor, but producers liked Jack Kesy enough to re-establish him as a series regular.  I want to believe they brought him back as more than just nightmare material. I'd love a twist of the person we saw preparing to lay the pipe on Desna was actually Roller's twin brother who was thought to have died at birth. Desna somehow found out that Roller had a twin, who actually survived, and has been keeping him a secret and in hiding AND she's been fucking him on the sly. Oh my!

[Keepitmoving]

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They might be family, but that doesn't mean they won't fuck you over. That's a lesson that goes both ways. Uncle Daddy needed to let Bryce and Jen know that they can't fuck up and assume that he'd bail them out.

Bail them out from what? Has it been established that Jen and her husband have repeatedly fucked up and had to run to Uncle Daddy to help them clean up the mess?  

I don't think that's why he set Bryce up, to teach him a lesson. He did it because he knew Bryce was wet behind the ears and it would be easy to set him up so that he would then owe him a lot of money. What was it 80K in losses? So now they all have to work that off and that keeps them working for Uncle Daddy when they are all trying to get out. Bryce had only agreed to stay at the clinic for a week, Desna is constantly working with one foot out the door, but now that's all out the window with this set up.

[dippydee]

The show is getting better and better every week. 

I think Roller was a dream because I couldn't see any marks on his shoulder/chest (unless I missed them). No way would he be scar free already.

[sugarbaker design]

Roller is just a bad wet dream now.

I hope we get a Polly story every episode.  Bordello madam, Symbionese Liberation Army... I can't wait for the next one.

[Syndicate]

Niecy Nash was on Twitter and has alluded to Desna not hallucinating about Roller. Oh my! So many questions now.

37 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

Roller is just a bad wet dream now.

I hope we get a Polly story every episode.  Bordello madam, Symbionese Liberation Army... I can't wait for the next one.

I don't consider any of these stories for Polly but she sure could use one. I mean, she's an ex-con from prison, surely they can come up with an actual subplot. Either that, or tie her in more with the main narrative. Even Quiet Ann has her own subplot.

[sugarbaker design]

8 minutes ago, Syndicate said:

I don't consider any of these stories for Polly

I don't either, they're stories Polly told.

[Chick2Chic]

1 hour ago, Keepitmoving said:

He did it because he knew Bryce was wet behind the ears and it would be easy to set him up so that he would then owe him a lot of money. What was it 80K in losses? So now they all have to work that off and that keeps them working for Uncle Daddy when they are all trying to get out. Bryce had only agreed to stay at the clinic for a week, Desna is constantly working with one foot out the door, but now that's all out the window with this set up.

That's how I saw it too. Uncle Daddy did this to get Bryce working for him, but now under the guise of paying off a debt. Sucks for Bryce especially he only wanted to do it for a little while to build up a nest and now he's doing it thinking he's 80k in debt to Uncle Daddy. He's just not cut out for this line of work so I can't see this working out even remotely well for him. 

 

18 minutes ago, Syndicate said:

Niecy Nash was on Twitter and has alluded to Desna not hallucinating about Roller. Oh my! So many questions now.

I really could go either way with this but the only thing that makes me think he may be real is that Desna seemed really vehement that Virginia stay with her all day vs staying at her house. If he is alive, then I'm really wondering how in the world they pulled off that scene at his house with Virginia. 

[Raja]

7 minutes ago, Chick2Chic said:

 

I really could go either way with this but the only thing that makes me think he may be real is that Desna seemed really vehement that Virginia stay with her all day vs staying at her house. If he is alive, then I'm really wondering how in the world they pulled off that scene at his house with Virginia. 

I don't see how she could depend upon Dean to keep that secret.

[Keepitmoving]

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That's how I saw it too. Uncle Daddy did this to get Bryce working for him, but now under the guise of paying off a debt. Sucks for Bryce especially he only wanted to do it for a little while to build up a nest and now he's doing it thinking he's 80k in debt to Uncle Daddy. He's just not cut out for this line of work so I can't see this working out even remotely well for him. 

Yes it does, because he's a recovering addict, trying to stay with his program, live as simple a life as he can, and now he's surrounded by drugs. Yeah, this is going to end really well for him, poor guy. When Jen finds out about her pal Desna's roll in all this, with Roller dying or at this point maybe not dying and he and Desna in on something, she's going to be pissed. This might break that friendship up, because if Roller were still around then Bryce might have most definitely been spared from having to work at the clinic and risk relapsing. We shall see.

Oh and I forgot, Polly is the one to watch, the way she goes in and out of characters is masterful. Yeah, I'm thinking she's pretty lethal.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Keepitmoving

[Chick2Chic]

13 minutes ago, Raja said:

21 minutes ago, Chick2Chic said:

 

I really could go either way with this but the only thing that makes me think he may be real is that Desna seemed really vehement that Virginia stay with her all day vs staying at her house. If he is alive, then I'm really wondering how in the world they pulled off that scene at his house with Virginia. 

I don't see how she could depend upon Dean to keep that secret.

Maybe Dean doesn't go in her room? Does he stay at home all day by himself? I'm curious about his routine cause being autistic, he would certainly have  one. Also, wasn't he out with Quiet Ann too? 

I'm just throwing things out there. :) I just remember thinking it odd that she strongly wanted Virginia to not stay at the house when the scene happened. 

[Keepitmoving]

18 minutes ago, Chick2Chic said:

Maybe Dean doesn't go in her room? Does he stay at home all day by himself? I'm curious about his routine cause being autistic, he would certainly have  one. Also, wasn't he out with Quiet Ann too? 

I'm just throwing things out there. :) I just remember thinking it odd that she strongly wanted Virginia to not stay at the house when the scene happened. 

He does go in or at least passes by her room to notice things because I asked in my post above did anyone hear exactly what he said at the beginning of the episode when he talked about her bedroom. He said she wasn't sleeping since Roller's death but also something about her bedroom being messy and noticing something else in there. I couldn't hear or make out exactly what he said he noticed though.

I thought about him mentioning her bedroom in the beginning of the episode when I saw Roller at the end. That's what made me not sure if he was really a hallucination or dream, maybe the changes in her bedroom that Dean has notice are due to Roller sneaking in and out of there.

You know, I could have sworn he said something about seeing bunion pads everywhere, boxes of them in her room and if that's the case, I don't think they're for her. That's something he sounded like he wasn't use to seeing in there as well as the room just being messy. Now we know she fixes up Roller's eyebrows, shaves him, she probably does his feet too or maybe she was using bunion pads for his wounds? I don't know, but something's up.

I just don't see how he could be so rough with her in bed, like pulling her toward him without wincing in pain and I didn't see him wincing. I mean, how much time has gone buy since his death and the funeral? Not much, because the episode picked up right where it left off with Virginia busting into the funeral. So not much time has gone buy for him to look that  in shape after a gunshot wound, even if it was just one shot to his shoulder. 

Edited June 26, 2017 by Keepitmoving

[SimoneS]

Unless that is Roller's twin, it has got to be a dream/hallucination. How could they have known that Virginia would shoot him? Where are the scars from the attack? Maybe they have an explanation, but it is difficult to come up with a believable one.

[Chick2Chic]

I was going to try rewatching the ep again online but apparently old Time Warner customers login aren't compatible with the Charter Spectrum option on the TNT site to watch the eps, which is really annoying. There's now TWC Spectrum option to sign in to. SIGH.

KeepItMoving: The only thing I can think of is if she leaves her door open when she's not in there and he's noticed her room being messy (which I wouldn't expect slovenliness from Desna but who knows). I meant in my earlier post more along the lines that I didn't seem Dean just going in her room to be in there doing whatever while she wasn't at home. 

I did just see Niecy Nash's tweet when someone tweeted that Desna must be dreaming that she tweeted "stay tuned" in response, so now I am super curious. 

Edited June 26, 2017 by Chick2Chic
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[atiyah9369]

37 minutes ago, Keepitmoving said:

He does go in or at least passes by her room to notice things because I asked in my post above did anyone hear exactly what he said at the beginning of the episode when he talked about her bedroom. He said she wasn't sleeping since Roller's death but also something about her bedroom being messy and noticing something else in there. I couldn't hear or make out exactly what he said he noticed though.

I thought about him mentioning her bedroom in the beginning of the episode when I saw Roller at the end. That's what made me not sure if he was really a hallucination or dream, maybe the changes in her bedroom that Dean has notice are due to Roller sneaking in and out of there.

You know, I could have sworn he said something about seeing bunion pads everywhere, boxes of them in her room and if that's the case, I don't think they're for her. That's something he sounded like he wasn't use to seeing in there as well as the room just being messy. Now we know she fixes up Roller's eyebrows, shaves him, she probably does his feet too or maybe she was using bunion pads for his wounds? I don't know, but something's up.

I just don't see how he could be so rough with her in bed, like pulling her toward him without wincing in pain and I didn't see him wincing. I mean, how much time has gone buy since his death and the funeral? Not much, because the episode picked up right where it left off with Virginia busting into the funeral. So not much time has gone buy for him to look that  in shape after a gunshot wound, even if it was just one shot to his shoulder. 

I thought he said Funyun bags LOL.

[Keepitmoving]

6 minutes ago, atiyah9369 said:

I thought he said Funyun bags LOL.

LOL, OK, that might make more sense and still, it could be Roller in there snacking on Funyuns. Goodness, what the hell is going on?

Also, this Roller who showed up, his hair looked darker and it looked grown out a bit to me. 

I really do think they didn't have her brother mention the messy state of her room for nothing. Either it goes to the state of her mind in coping with all this or that was Roller in there. I just find him mentioning what her room looks like at the beginning of the episode with "Roller" showing up in there either via just in her mind or for real at the end, to be connected.  I don't think that was a coincidence. 

Edited June 26, 2017 by Keepitmoving

[2727]

7 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

Unless that is Roller's twin, it has got to be a dream/hallucination. How could they have known that Virginia would shoot him? Where are the scars from the attack? Maybe they have an explanation, but it is difficult to come up with a believable one.

This is pissing me off more than is sensible, but they put his body in a small motor boat and set it on fire! Even if he wasn't really dead and had roller-ed out of the boat shortly after it was launched, that was still a lot of burning. I guess the police/coroner could have been bought off, but wasn't the body forensically identified?

[Keepitmoving]

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This is pissing me off more than is sensible, but they put his body in a small motor boat and set it on fire! Even if he wasn't really dead and had roller-ed out of the boat shortly after it was launched, that was still a lot of burning. I guess the police/coroner could have been bought off, but wasn't the body forensically identified?

LOL, I know, isn't it. But you know, when we saw the boat later that night, still floating out there, the fire looked like it was dying down. The boat didn't necessarily look like it was engulfed in flames. Did it? I could have sworn it looked like it was dying down a bit. 

Would gators be able to climb up into that boat? If they were big enough wouldn't the boat capsize?Would they crawl up on that boat if it were on fire?

If it was possible for him to escape from that body bag and boat, could he have been able to swim back to his house? If yes, is that where Desna found him, that's if she circled back to the house that same night? And that would be when they decided to keep it a secret and let him stay dead for whatever plan, we don't know yet, that the two of them cooked up. Maybe he wanted out of Dixie Mafia too, maybe Desna convinced him.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Keepitmoving

[Ohwell]

As much as I thought Roller was disgusting, and I never thought I'd say this, but I'm beginning to think that his character was one of the best thing about this show.  And that naked ass of his.  I don't know, but since his "death" (if that's what it is) the thrill is gone for me.   

 I know this show is going for "quirky" characters, but besides Desna and Jen, I just don't care for any of them.  And Dean seriously gets on my last nerve.  I'm going to give it a couple more episodes, maybe even make it through the season, but I don't know if I'll be back if it's renewed.

Plus, I'm sick of looking at all those nasty ass fingernails.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Ohwell

[Syndicate]

2 hours ago, SimoneS said:

Unless that is Roller's twin, it has got to be a dream/hallucination. How could they have known that Virginia would shoot him? Where are the scars from the attack? Maybe they have an explanation, but it is difficult to come up with a believable one.

I'd be OK with the twin twist myself. I don't necessarily need Jack Kesy to reprise the role of Roller. He could be Roller's skeevy twin brother who was a mob lawyer who had to go into hiding because he took more money from the mob than he was entitled to. He was presumed to have died at birth but Desna found out about him and has been hiding and fucking him secretly. LOL.

16 minutes ago, Ohwell said:

As much as I thought Roller was disgusting, and I never thought I'd say this, but I'm beginning to think that his character was one of the best thing about this show.  And that naked ass of his.  I don't know, but since his "death" (if that's what it is) the thrill is gone for me.   

 I know this show is going for "quirky" characters, but besides Desna and Jen, I just don't care for any of them.  And Dean seriously gets on my last nerve.  I'm going to give it a couple more episodes, maybe even make it through the season, but I don't know if I'll be back if it's renewed.

Assuming that this show wins a renewal, I suspect it will end with a cliffhanger that will make it impossible for you NOT to want to see what happens in the second season. LOL.

[Ohwell]

8 minutes ago, Syndicate said:

Assuming that this show wins a renewal, I suspect it will end with a cliffhanger that will make it impossible for you NOT to want to see what happens in the second season. LOL.

I don't know, I could easily replace it with another show.  I love Carl Hiaasen's novels about Florida life and the quirky characters, but for some reason these folks on tv aren't doing it for me.  

The other thing I do like, though, is Desna and her outfits.  She can wear the hell out of a tight dress, and pants.  

[Keepitmoving]

37 minutes ago, Syndicate said:

I'd be OK with the twin twist myself. I don't necessarily need Jack Kesy to reprise the role of Roller. He could be Roller's skeevy twin brother who was a mob lawyer who had to go into hiding because he took more money from the mob than he was entitled to. He was presumed to have died at birth but Desna found out about him and has been hiding and fucking him secretly. LOL.

Assuming that this show wins a renewal, I suspect it will end with a cliffhanger that will make it impossible for you NOT to want to see what happens in the second season. LOL.

I believe it's already been renewed for a second season. I love it and I like looking at the nails although I'm not into to all of that and don't know how you can wipe your ass let alone wash a dish with those things. But it seems creative to me and I like looking at all the designs. I love the characters, Dean included, he's interesting and hilarious. When he said "like at Costcos" in response to Desna telling him that Roller was missing, I died laughing and he says at least one  funny thing in just about every episode. HP does a great job of portraying just how smart and intuitive Dean is. From the very first episode I walked away with a feeling of sisterhood first and foremost and listening to the show runner, that is exactly what they were trying to give the audience. 

Edited June 26, 2017 by Keepitmoving

[Chick2Chic]

18 minutes ago, Keepitmoving said:

I believe it's already been renewed for a second season.

Not yet per here (plus you can see the ratings).

That said, I do recall reading online last week that if the show is renewed that they'd already applied to film S2 in Louisiana. 

Edited June 26, 2017 by Chick2Chic
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[SimoneS]

I also read somewhere that Claws had been renewed before season 1 aired. Even if that is not the case, the ratings in the key 18 to 49 year old demo are pretty strong, .4 live, doubling to .8 in the +3 day so renewal is very likely.

[J-Man]

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Did Jen previously know the guy she was square dancing with? I was kind of getting affair vibes (maybe just emotional) from that scene but maybe I'm wrong. 

I'm pretty sure they all know each other (the guy, Desna, and Jenn) because they're next-door neighbors at the strip mall. 

Does anyone think that the part of Desna might have originally been written for a younger, and perhaps less ethnic actress? I love Niecy Nash to death, but her character just doesn't fit her age and ethnicity all that well. 

[Keepitmoving]

17 minutes ago, J-Man said:

I'm pretty sure they all know each other (the guy, Desna, and Jenn) because they're next-door neighbors at the strip mall. 

Does anyone think that the part of Desna might have originally been written for a younger, and perhaps less ethnic actress? I love Niecy Nash to death, but her character just doesn't fit her age and ethnicity all that well. 

I have no idea what you mean by it not fitting her ethnicity nor her age, fits to me. So this character is strange for a black woman within Niecy Nash's age group? Really? Doesn't seem odd to me at all.

According to the show runner it was written with her in mind, she wanted Niecy Nash in that character and leading the show, and I personally think she's awesome. The casting is great all around IMO. As a matter a fact, I posted a video with all of them talking about their roles in the other thread and this is mentioned. Niecy telling the show runner that she's never led a show and the show runner saying never mind that, you're leading this one.

37 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

I also read somewhere that Claws had been renewed before season 1 aired. Even if that is not the case, the ratings in the key 18 to 49 year old demo are pretty strong, .4 live, doubling to .8 in the +3 day so renewal is very likely.

Yeah, and I don't I read it, I think I heard in on one of those entertainment news programs.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Keepitmoving

[NorthstarATL]

I could NOT stop laughing all the way through this episode! "Tit" us just amused the heck out of me, because of COURSE she wouldn't know how to pronounce it! So Uncle Daddy is screwing them over, and MAYBE Des and Roller are doing the same to him? Or he's a dream...or a twin..or a clone...or....I don't even know...but he has a fine ass. Polly's SLA story was hysterical. I think the only things that bog the story down for me is still Des' brother.

[jhlipton]

15 hours ago, peridot said:

I'm surprised the gas station attendant lied to the cops for $25 and a BJ, I guess he must have been hard up.

One of the bridesmaids (the one that Quiet Ann felt up, I think) asked Virginia if she had to give her captors a "blowjay", which probably got her thinking along those lines.  And the clerk didn't care at all about the $25 (LOL) but a pretty girl giving him a "hummer" -- that would do the trick (so to speak...)

 

13 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Quiet Ann!!!! Married to a linguist. Ha!

I bet he was quite cunning!

9 hours ago, 2727 said:

I guess the police/coroner could have been bought off, but wasn't the body forensically identified?

Now I think about it -- Roller was identified by a bit of blood and his "grill" -- and didn't Desna tell Virginia to put them in the boat?

And on a show like this, whenever there's a body burned to a crisp, it's never who it was supposed to be!

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Uncle Daddy, you devious piece of shit! And hold on now, Roller is in Des`s bedroom? Right now I think he's a hallucination (I mean, she set the boat on FIRE!), but who knows? I would buy her missing him and imagining seeing Roller again, even if she knew he was an sshole. I got the vibe at the funeral that while he might have been screwing other woman, Roller did consider Des to be his Main Squeeze, so maybe they did have more of an actual relationship? A super messed up trashy one, but a relationship none the less.

Poor Bryce, getting totally screwed over. I feel really bad for the guy. He seems to be really trying to stay sober and be a good husband/father, and he clearly has no skill/desire to be a criminal, but now his shitty dad has manipulated him into working for him forever. I don't at all see this ending well for him.

Oh my God, Virginia and her story! Of course she comes up with a ridiculously convoluted story about being kidnapped and tied to a toilet in the swamp and having barnyard animals almost eat her. Des was giving the most hilarious "oh my God are you KIDDING me?" expressions while she was giving her story, while everyone else seemed to be totally buying it, it was making me laugh way too hard. Granted, considering how batshit this show is already, and the trashy ridiculousness of Uncle Daddy and his people, I can see how they would accept something like that.

This show, is, like, my perfect summer show. Trashy and ridiculous, but with actually talented people who are actually putting effort into it.

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49 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:

This show, is, like, my perfect summer show. 

Ditto. Really enjoying Niecy Nash's performance and all of the craziness of the Salon  

I thought  the medicine robbery might be an inside job. But I never suspected Uncle Daddy

And why does Mandy have so much control over Desna's ability to open a salon in a nicer neighborhood? 

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6 hours ago, Keepitmoving said:

Niecy telling the show runner that she's never led a show and the show runner saying never mind that, you're leading this one.

I'd say she led Clean House for ten seasons! That was some fine reality show acting.  ;-)

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2 nitpicks: 1)Beef O'Brady's is an actual restaurant chain, not some janky convenience store with fried chicken under a heat lamp. Weird that they would name-drop the restaurant chain. 2)Desna had to drive down a dirt road (the same dirt road?) to get to both the convenience store and She She's... Um Florida has paved roads y'all.