S06.E16: A Fresh Start

[Tara Ariano]

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In the season premiere, Maci and Ryan try to coordinate trick or treating with Bentley. Amber is excited about her new business venture, but is let down when Gary doesn't let Leah stay with her on a school night.

[CofCinci]

Season trailer:  http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/v7oh3g/teen-mom-life-keeps-changing-this-season-on-teen-mom-og

Hope she kept the receipt.

[Brooklynista]

6 hours ago, CofCinci said:

Season trailer:  http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/v7oh3g/teen-mom-life-keeps-changing-this-season-on-teen-mom-og

Hope she kept the receipt.

And not a single friend with her.  Oh. Random black lady.  Just what could thus couple have in common with Matt and Amber? The pairing is ridiculous.

Edited April 16, 2017 by Brooklynista

[CofCinci]

He picks her friends because he is psychologically abusive.  She isn't allowed to have friendships with people her own age.  She could escape!  The African-American couple that Matt pays to be their friends are the same age as Amber's grandparents.

Also, in the trailer why is Maci talking shit about Mimi Jen and then crying on vacation (about Ryan?)?  Maci is a terrible actress.  She is trying to create drama to remain on the series.

Where are the sharks when you need them?

Edited April 16, 2017 by CofCinci

[GreatKazu]

10 hours ago, CofCinci said:

He picks her friends because he is psychologically abusive.  She isn't allowed to have friendships with people her own age.  She could escape!  The African-American couple that Matt pays to be their friends are the same age as Amber's grandparents.

Also, in the trailer why is Maci talking shit about Mimi Jen and then crying on vacation (about Ryan?)?  Maci is a terrible actress.  She is trying to create drama to remain on the series.

Where are the sharks when you need them?

Are they trying to harpoon Kail? I wish. 

[CofCinci]

Live chat tonight during the episode.

[Brooklynista]

I really cannot stand Kim. I understand thinking your kids are the greatest but she just cannot see Tyler for the schmuck that he is.

Edited April 18, 2017 by Brooklynista

[Christina]

Said I wasn't going to watch but there is nothing else on and I'm in the middle of a poker tournament. I feel for Mowgli er Sophia and her hair because mine is the same way. Debra said she curled it with a curling iron, Farrah said it didn't look like it, and then she ends up braiding it for the photo shoot anyway. I feel your pain Sophia. : )

[CofCinci]

"It's French, I believe."

[GreatKazu]

I am on the west coast. Gonna have to just read what you all post and "like". 

[CofCinci]

Boo Boo is turning into Honey Boo Boo.  She has junk food in her mouth in every scene.  Amber is the best mom ever.

[Brooklynista]

3 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

"It's French, I believe."

You can definitelytell how personal the store is to her. Dumb ass.

And i guess as soon as they walk in the door Amber makea a beeline for her bedroom. Leah knows that where she has to be if she wants to have any time w her mom.

[Christina]

I may watch the rerun of Better Call Saul. They are so boring. Tyler's fat, Amber is swearing she can't go to the dentist because they will give her pain pills and she is sober (yeah right).

I do have sympathy for tooth pain, though. If it is very bad, there is no way she'll be able to get by with just tylenol. I shouldn't be so mean when she gives so much to legitimately trash her about, like not being sober. 

[CofCinci]

"People tell me I got a good eye for fashion." --- Who?  Who are these people, Amber?  Who?

Amber on her fortune: "I'm not going to hand it to her."  What money is going to be left over for Leah?

[Christina]

Flipped back on a commercial and Matt is saying that Amber needs to open her own business so that Leah knows that men aren't always the bosses, and I wanted to punch him.  He implies that Gary taught her that, the piece of shit (Matt, not Gary who probably never suggested such a thing).  Sounds like we'll see the kids in their Halloween costumes, so maybe there will be a payoff.

5 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

"People tell me I got a good eye for fashion." --- Who?  Who are these people, Amber?  Who?

The people she pays to applaud her on social media. 

Edited April 18, 2017 by Christina
Clarifying that Matt is scum.

[ClassyCourtHeels]

5 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

"People tell me I got a good eye for fashion." --- Who?  Who are these people, Amber?  Who?

60 year old grand mothers. 

[GreatKazu]

6 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

"People tell me I got a good eye for fashion." --- Who?  Who are these people, Amber?  Who?

Amber on her fortune: "I'm not going to hand it to her."  What money is going to be left over for Leah?

Social bots, paid followers, Matt using his alternate Twitter accounts, Amber's other personality, people with vision problems. 

[CofCinci]

"Doctors told me I was fine, Farrah, and didn't need therapy."  What Doctors?  Your famewhore fiancé?  Or Dr. Dre after loving your new hit single?

 

Typical Tyler --- He makes dramatic "Look at me - I'm so tired, Mommy!" gestures in the restaurant and when his mother asks if he is tired, he had to pussyfoot around the issue.  Mom had to probe and probe.  Then, he finds another way to blame Catelynn for everything.  Meanwhile, Catelynn's fingernails are on the menu at TGI Fridays that night.

Edited April 18, 2017 by CofCinci

[Brooklynista]

Why does Amber keep on with this overnight on a school night bullshit? Time and attendance is clearly not her strong point. Let it goooo.

Can we see more of Gary's face? Is it looking thinner? Or is this new tv playing tricks on me?

[CofCinci]

It is so obvious now that "Therapist" Kathleen is in a hotel room.

[Christina]

Gary made a very good point to Kristina when discussing why he won't let Amber keep Leah on school nights. He said, "Look at what happened with Farrah. She knew Leah was around and could see a monitor and I had to look to make sure she wasn't seeing it." Yeah, Amber. You're a great mom.

We are supposed to automatically believe someone when they say they are suicidal, but with Tyler, I can't; he's such a drama queen.

[KikiBda]

Why is this labeled E16... Is this the 1st epic for the season? 

[CofCinci]

1 minute ago, KikiBda said:

Why is this labeled E16... Is this the 1st epic for the season? 

It's listed as #16 on TV Guide and MTV.

[woodscommaelle]

Amber is out of her fucking mind. 

Andddddddddd so is Farrah.

Edited April 18, 2017 by woodscommaelle

[leighroda]

7 minutes ago, KikiBda said:

Why is this labeled E16... Is this the 1st epic for the season? 

I'm not sure if it's true for this season, but as a way to avoid having to renew contracts mtv has been filming a part b of the previous season... I lost track of where they even are in the seasons for this one, but I know they've done that for teen mom 2.

[Brooklynista]

These people are making MTV money, why cant they turn up the damn heat?? Why are they always on the couch under blankets?

During the promo for the after show, Amber and Cate look to be the same size. What kind of lipo did Amber have? Her doc wasnt agressive enough because the surgery and that pain was pointless if she's still looking that thick.

[woodscommaelle]

Tyler and Cate need to move far away from each other.

Bentley always seems to have the shittiest trick-or-treating experience. He needs to be with a bunch of boys his age. 

Edited April 18, 2017 by woodscommaelle

[GreatKazu]

5 minutes ago, leighroda said:

I'm not sure if it's true for this season, but as a way to avoid having to renew contracts mtv has been filming a part b of the previous season... I lost track of where they even are in the seasons for this one, but I know they've done that for teen mom 2.

 

15 minutes ago, KikiBda said:

Why is this labeled E16... Is this the 1st epic for the season? 

It shows on MTVs site as episode 616, not 16:

[Primetimer]

The moms we didn't have time to miss are back with new businesses and old drama.

View the full article

[CofCinci]

3 minutes ago, woodscommaelle said:

Tyler and Cate need to move far away from each other.

He won't leave anytime soon. Tyler is crafting his "I was such a caring, dutiful husband and father that I forgot how to take care of myself" narrative. He has to squeeze a little more blood from this rock before he takes his dollies and parlor pillows and leaves Catelynn. 

[ClassyCourtHeels]

14 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

These people are making MTV money, why cant they turn up the damn heat?? Why are they always on the couch under blankets?

During the promo for the after show, Amber and Cate look to be the same size. What kind of lipo did Amber have? Her doc wasnt agressive enough because the surgery and that pain was pointless if she's still looking that thick.

Just like with Kail blowing up before getting pregnant these surgeries aren't a cure all. 

 

If you continue to eat complete shit you'll blow right back up. Amber is worse than Kail.

[FlowerofCarnage]

I am really curious as to how Ryan treats MacKenzie'so son? And speaking of MacKenzie, in what universe is she 20 years old?

Is it me or does it seem like Kim isn't that attached to Nova?

Not going to lie, Farrah's boutique looked nice.

Amber has offically morphed into Miss Piggy. 

[Quita]

On 4/16/2017 at 5:37 PM, CofCinci said:

Also, in the trailer why is Maci talking shit about Mimi Jen and then crying on vacation (about Ryan?)?  Maci is a terrible actress.  She is trying to create drama to remain on the series.

I was shocked to hear Maci talk about Jen and Larry in the previews. Jen seems to genuinely have a good heart and they do a great job as grandparents, even including Bentley's siblings. She has nothing to complain about with the Edwards, except for Ryan.

On 4/16/2017 at 5:37 PM, CofCinci said:

He picks her friends because he is psychologically abusive.  She isn't allowed to have friendships with people her own age.  She could escape!  The African-American couple that Matt pays to be their friends are the same age as Amber's grandparents.

That poor couple looked like they were being held hostage during their scenes.

[CofCinci]

17 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

Is it me or does it seem like Kim isn't that attached to Nova?

The kid looked out of control in the restaurant. I swear I saw her trying to hang herself with a cord at one point. If I were Kim, I'd act like I didn't know the kid either. Most likely, she resents that anchor baby because it kept her saint of a son with that woman she regards as a bridge troll.  Kim thinks Catelynn is trash -- which is hysterical because Kim fucked Butch for years.  Pot kettle black. 

Edited April 18, 2017 by CofCinci

[FlowerofCarnage]

5 minutes ago, Quita said:

I was shocked to hear Maci talk about Jen and Larry in the previews. Jen seems to genuinely have a good heart and they do a great job as grandparents, even including Bentley's siblings. She has nothing to complain about with the Edwards, except for Ryan.

That poor couple looked like they were being held hostage during their scenes.

Someone on another board said they just answered  an ad on Craigslist for a washer and dryer and it turned into a hostage situation. Lol

[poeticlicensed]

Did I miss something? Who are the couple that Amber and Matt are filming every scene?  sober coaches? That wedding dress. Ugh. On the aftershow amber wanted to know if it's normal to freak out and want to rip off her wedding gown. And freaking Cate said yes she had panic attacks, it's totally normal. Wut? No it's not normal. Normal is being overwhelmed by the planning and the day. Ripping off your gown and having panic attacks is not normal. Even Maci was like,um no. 

If it wasn't for the Ryan is a shitty dad storyline , Maci would have nothing, nada. 

Another season of couch surfing for Cate and Tyler . And no, it's not normal to think about how you shouldn't have given up Carly EVERYDAY. 

Farrah I am convinced is totally acting crazy for the cameras. It's all an act. 

[Quita]

1 hour ago, Brooklynista said:

Can we see more of Gary's face? Is it looking thinner? Or is this new tv playing tricks on me?

I'm pretty sure it's just your tv.

[WhosThatGirl]

Seriously the recap is on point: How can we make these people if they won't go away?

[krawz555]

Boo Boo is turning into Honey Boo Boo.  She has junk food in her mouth in every scene.  Amber is the best mom ever.

Seriously. Driving in the car and shoving pepperoni pizza into her mouth. Who does that with their kids?? Snacks, yes.... crackers, pretzels to tied you over until you get real food. Not a full greasy meal IN the car, driving. Gross.

[Blissfool]

32 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

 

If it wasn't for the Ryan is a shitty dad storyline , Maci would have nothing, nada. 

Reminds me of a certain dentist's daughter baby talker.

[Marley]

Meh to most of the episode. I ff a lot cause I was so bored. 

I usually don't mind Maci but if she is gonna start being a bitch to Ryan's mom then I don't like her. She has no SL at all. Ryan is a subpar dad and always will be. Time to move on.

Amber and Matt are the worst. Matt looking into the camera and talking about how they are all about women being bosses? Lmao shut the fuck up dude no one buys your act. And that older couple that was with them the whole time like what the hell. They seemed confused and were probably thinking if they have to hang out with those losers this long they need more pay.

Also do Matt and Amber ever cook? Ok people get take out from time to time but I have never seen them have a normal meal with veggies.

Tyler is still a douche.

Teen mom 2 was more entertaining then these fools.

[EmeraldGirl]

I thought Amber was going to go all Carrie Bradshaw and pretend that she's allergic to the dress because she doesn't want to get married. 

Maci's kids are incredibly cute. Ryan is only buggy-eyed some of the time, so I'm still going with drugs. Interesting that he seems to have more interaction with Jayde than with his own son. Jen needs to cut the freaking cord. She's pathetic when she keeps defending that bum. Stuck in traffic this time - she keeps frantically texting him. Girlfriend isn't too good at getting out of the house either. 

Tyler needs to march into an MD and tell the depression story. Gets some meds instead of just listening to that nobody. And be honest about weed smoking. 

Cate's hair is killing me. In the scene where Nova throws apples we can see her bangs finally come loose from her head and she has a huge bald spot. My first thought was of her nervous tics and maybe she's pulling it out. Even April's head doesn't look like that. Take out that damn ponytail! 

How did Cate become such a mean girl? She used to be the one to run and hug the other moms and have sweet words for everyone. Now she's maniacally laughing on the aftershow about Farrah. I guess she thinks she made it to the cool kids' table. 

Amber said "misconstruted" and "them people", and journalist wannabe Nessa said "escape goat". Farrah played her usual game of cutting people out of her life. All Maci has to do is sit and be quiet and she wins Teen Mom. 

[GreatKazu]

Fuck, Cate. You just shoveled an entire meal down your throat, ate barbecue nachos along with that dessert and probably swallowed five soda refills, and there you are fucking munching on your barely-there nail as if you haven't eaten all day. You are straight up Fat Bastard from Austin Powers. 

Edited April 18, 2017 by GreatKazu

[methadonna]

40 minutes ago, EmeraldGirl said:

 journalist wannabe Nessa said "escape goat". 

One of my favorite malapropisms to reuse mockingly comes from an old Judge Judy episodes, in which one of the complainants referred to her cat, who had a tendency to run out the door whenever she opened it, as "an escape goat."

I literally laughed until I cried when I first heard this, and then I immediately adopted "escape goat kitty" to refer to my own cat who has similar escape artist propensities. (But only once I get her escape goat kitty ass back inside, lest some neighbor hear me and think *I* think it's actually correct. I'd much rather they hear me yelling for her to, "Get your damn ass out of that fucking tree and back inside our shithole apartment, you godamned fucker" because she has outsmarted me yet again and snuck out the door as I tried to leave than ... think that I'm stupid. Duh. ;-) )

So, when Nessa--whose credentials, I'll admit, I do not know, but has always struck me as dumber than dirt--said this, I was dying.

I then spent more time contemplating which was the more egregious lexical crime, replacing "scape" with "escape," resulting in what could be more of a mispronunciation of a term that is otherwise at least used correctly (Nessa DID at least MEAN "scapegoat") OR replacing "artist" with "goat" (as the JJ woman presumably meant, hyperbolically, that her cat was an escape artist), ending up with a combo of an incorrectly used and nonexistent phrase, than I spent thinking about anything else wrt this episode/accompanying aftershow

(except maybe why the episode descriptions, and practically scenes themselves) just seem like the writers now play jumble from previous eps/seasons: like how many episodes since Amber has gotten out of jell has some variant of "Amber [... is sad when, despite knowing the custody agreement, which hasn't changed in the last 52 quarter-seasons in which we've already seen this fucking subplot] Gary continues to try to provide stability for the daughter Amber legally endangered, neglected, chose a potential FIVE years of jell over, and, despite regaining a surprising level of visitation given her history, continues to be erratic and last minute about when she chooses not to exercise that gift and when she suddenly thinks the rest of the world should stop in its place because she feels like having a sleepover and She's A Good Mom (who is demonstrating this by using her weekday afternoon time she does have shoving three fast food meals at once down her kid's throat in the back of her car before heading home to get in bed and ask her kid if she wants to join her there to watch a movie, presumably vs spending those remaining few hours downstairs with almost-step[grand]dad Matt doesn't let Leah stay with her on a school night"? And, I don't have to ask how many times we've seen the Bentley/Ryan/whole-planet-except-for-any-peers-for-Bentley-because-their-parents-all-care-too-much-about-them-to-allow-them-to-be-filmed-even-in-full-Halloween-disguise go trick-or-treating, because I am hoping the answer to that is only equal to the number of Halloweens for which Binley has been alive, although it feels like they may stage this one semi-annually at this point. Maybe they've started doing Purim too).

Ultimately, I've concluded that, all things being equal, the "escape goat" cat would be the greater transgression, but as I don't think all things ARE equal in this case--my expectations for Nessa's oratorical skills are not any higher than those of the average JJ participant, but they sure as hell SHOULD be-- I'ma vote Nessa the greater FAIL here, since, as you said, she's acting in (fsvo) the role of a broadcast journalist here, and there should be some sort of standards. Ya know, like Kail.

[Raynedon]

Just now, Brooklynista said:

Why does Amber keep on with this overnight on a school night bullshit? Time and attendance is clearly not her strong point. Let it goooo.

The first thing that popped into my mind when Amber started whining about being turned down by Gary saying it was the first time she'd asked to keep Leah overnight on a school night was that she probably waited until filming had started up again before asking.  

[AmyFarrahFowler]

7 hours ago, CofCinci said:

The kid looked out of control in the restaurant. I swear I saw her trying to hang herself with a cord at one point. If I were Kim, I'd act like I didn't know the kid either. Most likely, she resents that anchor baby because it kept her saint of a son with that woman she regards as a bridge troll.  Kim thinks Catelynn is trash -- which is hysterical because Kim fucked Butch for years.  Pot kettle black. 

The whole while chewing with her mouth wide open in the restaurant on camera. God, I despise the woman.

[bounnatalie]

Why does Matt speak for Amber? Why does she let him? Do we really need a voice over translation of Amber's feelings from Matt? I laughed out loud at this, 

9 hours ago, Quita said:

That poor couple looked like they were being held hostage during their scenes.

Mainly because they did look quite confused. That couch must have super couch suction since the woman, I think Annette, could only get up once. 

Also, I love that Tyler showed compassion to his wife by bringing up and blaming her mental illness (?) for his issues. How cute was Nova (not throwing apples but before) seems like Cate is really starting to blossom as a mom.

Speaking of mental illness, then there's Debra..... 

Also, Kudos to Christina and Gary for having an adult conversation and Christina trying to get to the real reason for Gary's decision. Wonder if she can rent space in the xerox room! 

And who could forget, 'I'm not going to just hand boo boo over money' Like you do Matt??

Edited April 18, 2017 by bounnatalie
forgot some stuff!

[Polliwollidoodle]

7 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

I tAmber said "misconstruted" and "them people", and journalist wannabe Nessa said "escape goat". Farrah played her usual game of cutting people out of her life. All Maci has to do is sit and be quiet and she wins Teen Mom. 

Thank you . I knew I heard it and couldn't believe it. I was scouring the forum (couldn't find one particular about the after show?) to see anyone mention it. I now know I really did hear that. I have wondered in the past about this host and another one they had who are so clearly in over their heads. So many qualified people would love this job and they have these morons who are not capable of using language properly.

yes -ESCAPE GOAT. you moron.

2 minutes ago, mayvenne said:

Thank you . I knew I heard it and couldn't believe it. I was scouring the forum (couldn't find one particular about the after show?) to see anyone mention it. I now know I really did hear that. I have wondered in the past about this host and another one they had who are so clearly in over their heads. So many qualified people would love this job and they have these morons who are not capable of using language properly.

yes -ESCAPE GOAT. you moron. and coming back because I posted this immediately after seeing emeraldgirl's post. Then I saw methdonna and I loved that too.

And wanting to add that Kim (is that Tyler's mother right?) sure does not eat pretty.

[CofCinci]

2 hours ago, rayndon said:

 The first thing that popped into my mind when Amber started whining about being turned down by Gary saying it was the first time she'd asked to keep Leah overnight on a school night was that she probably waited until filming had started up again before asking.  

Bingo.  What month did this film? December? I think Leah started the school year in mid-August (I think we had this discussion last season during the whole $800 in school clothes that she can't wear to school because they're formal dresses). I doubt Amber has asked for Leah except when MTV is in town.  She goes weeks without seeing the kid. Gary is doing right by Leah and it is clear how much of a priority her* education is in his life.  Thank goodness Gary grew into a reasonable adult because who knows where Boo Boo would be without him.  Gary is buying houses on their street, living within his means, has a stable partner and has goals for his children.  Teen Mom OG most improved player award goes to Gary.

 

*Not only her education, but his other child has an educational trust set up as well with MTV money. 

 

Also, did anyone notice that during the "I'm a good mom!" speech that Matt offered to drive Leah back to Gary's house alone?  Yeah, so you can meet your hookup or sext?  It's like a 90 minute round trip that he can squeeze a quickie into and blame on construction traffic. Probably bang in the flip house. 

[ghoulina]

I KNEW Ryan wasn't going to shop up for trick-or-treating on time. I freaking knew it. I knew no matter how many promises he made, he still wouldn't come through. It's a sad state of affairs when showing up halfway into the event, with your to go cup,  belching loudly, and trying to literally take candy from a baby is considered an improvement. 

There is something seriously wrong with that dude. I still don't think Mackenzie is his legitimate girlfriend and I will take that to my grave. Their interactions are so weird, to me. I think his parents arranged for a caretaker and he thinks they're in a relationship. He's just so WEIRD with her. At the park, he was looking in the complete opposite direction, actually turning his head AWAY, while talking to her. 

Dude is weird. And know he's having dreams about Maci, but with a different wedding dress?? Okay then....

I don't love Maci or anything, but her kids are damned cute, so I enjoy most of her scenes. Jade saying "love you" was the sweetest thing ever. And I love that Mimi dressed up to match Bentley!

 

Farrah, honey, lighten your brows if you're going to lighten your hair. 

Sigh....I'm about to start FFing her scenes. Nothing ever changes. She and Deb can go to therapy every day for the rest of their lives and they'll still be unable to get along. They're both freaking crazy. But Deb can't win. She can do nothing right in Farrah's eyes. Deb can drive me crazy, but she is "bitch eating crackers" for Farrah. It doesn't matter WHAT she does, Farrah will get mad. Michael correctly pointed out that Farrah asks her parents to help, but then gets mad when they help. Crazy!

I still can't get passed Sophia's middle name being Laurent. Sophia Loren...Laurent. Yves Saint Laurent. What's going on here????

 

Something is always wrong with Amber. Any excuse to go lay down. Now it's tooth pain. Sweet Leah wouldn't let her mommy lay in her room alone. She's already light years ahead of Amber in the parenting department. 

Do Matt and Amber pay Wayne and his wife to hang out with them? That friendship seems so random. I liked how Amber tells them she started her fashion line because so many people have told her she has a good eye for fashion....while her roots are 5 inches long and she's sitting around in a loud, Vegas sweatshirt. Uh huh, yea. 

And I really hate how they use all their scenes now to throw shade at Gary. Gary is now some secret misogynist because Leah has been saying women can't be bosses? Give me a fucking break. Meanwhile, cut to Gary putting his daughter down for a nap and doesn't Christina work? IF Leah even said that, it's probably because Amber lays in bed all day while Matt runs the show. 

Amber can miss me with her tears about not getting to keep BooBoo over night on a school night. She doesn't seem so teary when she voluntarily gives up weekends with Leah to go jaunting off around the country. Maybe if you stayed consistent with your time Gary would be more likely to give you more. At this point, I think Gary just does not trust them to get Leah to school on time. And I don't blame him. 

I love how Matt is just phoning it in at this point. He's there for his (and HERS) MTV paycheck. That's all. "You're an incredible mother"....said with all the emotion used to ask for a form at the bank. 

 

I'm going to admit, I'm kind of torn about Tyler. Look, I cannot stand the dude. He's a bratty attention whore. But he is nowhere near as lazy and pathetic as his wife, IMO. We did actually see him doing work on their new house. And as horrible as this book is that he's writing, at least it's SOMETHING. I don't like the guy, trust me. But Cate literally does NOTHING but lay on the couch all day and play on her phone. (Look at the dinner scene with Kim, Cate was all slouched down in the booth and playing on her phone). So I'm just saying I could see how Tyler could get sick of always having to support her and HER "mental illness" and some resentment could start building up. I guess he thinks it's his turn now. I feel like even if he is just going through the motions he has at least tried to be there for Cate. While all she can do when her husband says he's depressed is stare at her nails and laugh about how he SEEMS happy. She is just so gross, to me.