S07.E16: Big Buddha Brawl

[MatildaMoody]

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 I don't think nudity is the problem here. The problem for Erika is the notion that she - a married woman - would got without panties and purposely sit across from a married man and flash him. 

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What's funny is that the only people who suggested that it may have been intentional were her besties Eileen and Rinna. Again, I just really want someone to call out this hypocrisy at the reunion.

[zoeysmom]

32 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I'm not sure what to say about Lisar and her table dance, since I am not sure what that has to do the topic.

I don't know about anyone else, but I certainly don't think nothing is ever Erika's fault. That whole deal with Eileen this last episode was entirely Erika's fault. I will be disappointed if she doesn't apologize. She has already said that she overreacted, so it sounds like she is taking ownership. Of course she has blame for trusting Kathryn and gossiping on camera. I don't know how this is in doubt. But that doesn't mean that Kathryn wasn't at fault for what she did. Remember, Kathryn was a guest in her home and Erika had confessed that she had issues forming close bonds and trusting women. Kathryn said that she would be her real girlfriend and would change her mind about close female friendships. Then she runs to LVP and repeats what she was told in confidence, adding that Erika had actually shed "about 6 tears" while reflecting on her love for her Grandmother. Not sure how anyone could possibly deduce that Kathryn wasn't wrong. 

I remember Lisar's first season. She was brought on and introduced mainly as LVP's friend. Most of us knew that she was actually closer to Kyle, but that was played down a lot in favor of playing up Lisar's 25 year friendship with LVP. Kyle and LVP met during that first episode, and talked about repairing their friendship and trying to trust each other again. This was after the supposed "take down" of S4. They agreed they would not talk shit about each other anymore. Then we saw Lisar and LVP hanging out on several occasions. We saw LVP warn Lisar about the other girls. She talked about how they couldn't be trusted and how conniving they all were. She didn't want any of them with her when she got her star in Palm Springs. She didn't mention Kyle by name, but she certainly didn't exclude her and at the time, all of us were talking about the fact that LVP wasn't holding up her end of the bargain regarding not saying shit about Kyle. This was all on camera, so clearly LVP was aware that Kyle and the others would see, yet she still talked in confidence to Lisar. What if Lisar, who was at the time close to Kyle, would have run to Kyle and told her that LVP might be pretending to want to be friends, but at the same time was talking shit behind her back? Who would have been to blame in that situation? Do you think that LVP wouldn't have been hurt by the fact that she was talking openly to Lisar and yet she ran and told the others what she was saying? That is the whole point. Gossiping is wrong. We all do it to some extent, but it is wrong. Doesn't mean that we aren't angry or hurt when we find out that the person we confided in betrayed our trust. 

I was responding to your comment about Erika's marital status might not  to some but clearly matters to Erika.  The point being a married Rinna thought nothing about her marital status -and now I can add Erika was cheering her on.

Outside of the RH world, when you do something, it is your fault.  Erika talking about LVP-her fault.  No one else's.  Erika lying about telling Yolanda about LVP and Kyle-her fault.  The lying and but not the telling, however there was a mischaracterization of what LVP and Kyle said-as much Lyme Brain's fault as Erika's .  I did not find fault with Kathryn repeating a filmed conversation.  When it was broken down at the Reunion-Erika had to eat the fact that she made the comments about not trusting and then trusting Kathryn before she made the disparaging remarks.  Kathryn had every right and almost a duty to tell LVP if for no other reason than to extricate herself from the negative in the conversation. Again Erika not taking the blame.

Rinna attended Kyle's White Party and pretty much everyone event.  I don't recall LVP ever saying they can't be trusted and how conniving they all are-maybe she was thinking it.  LVP had worked through issues with Kyle-first episode.  It seemed to me it was Yolanda when the subject of LVP came up and someone said, "love LVP', Yolanda said love is strong word.  If LVP had been bad talking Kyle to Rinna-which she didn't other than to say she didn't show up in Palm Springs for her star dedication ceremony (Kyle was in Europe-with Yolanda) yes Rinna should have told Kyle.  I will say LVP was "directional" or "manipulative" when she said the other women weren't there to support her getting her star in Palm Springs.  LVP knew Yolanda and Kyle were in Europe and she certainly would not invite Brandi.  So I would not hold it against Lisar if she would have repeated what LVP said.  If she actually said it-not some weirdo sixth sense thing-or her impression of  what LVP was implying.  That is when it gets sticky.  Let's face rarely in real life do parties gather annually to discuss what was said accompanied by video clips.  Nor do they have interviews after the episodes and give half term progress reports and have to opine what there feelings and knowledge were at the time of an event six months earlier, ignoring all that transpires in the following weeks.  There is no confidence when a conversation is filmed-they all know that and to try and sell it as a confidence breaker is insulting to the viewers. 

Sometimes withholding conversations is worse because the person can't work on what the divide is between the parties.  I say the sooner the better and I think it is better if it is on camera. 

[ElDosEquis]

14 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I have to agree with you, MCM, about the Erika hate.  I don't hate her, and I was even starting to like her this season, as we saw some of the better side of Erika.  I thought she was very nice and a gracious guest in Mexico.  I liked seeing her being more "down home" in Georgia.

Last season, I thought she was a pretentious, stone-cold bitch, and with her "I give zero fucks" attitude, I think she wanted people to think that.  

My favorites hold pretty steady from season to season, but sometimes, as fame and popularity becomes a part of their lives, these women do all change -some a bigger degree than others.  I do also, always leave open the fact that I may change my mind about a housewife from episode to episode.  I usually really like LVP and Kyle, but there have been times when I disliked them because of something they did.

Regarding Erika, it is just so friggin' hard to figure her out.  It is never a case of "what you see is what you get" with her, because I sometimes think that she is always playing some kind of role or she thinks she is, anyway.  I don't know if ANYONE has seen the real Erika.  She wraps herself up into these personas that she is trying to exhibit - starting with giving her outfits names.  I think she tries to get into character for whatever outfit she is wearing at that time.  So, what was the name of the outfit she was wearing at dinner - Samurai Barbie, or something like that?  Well, that was the character she portrayed - a solo warrior, fighting for honor.  

Erika doesn't like for anyone to see a chink in her armor.  In that way, she and LVP are a lot alike.  Rarely do we see LVP get super emotional, either.  The thing that differentiates the two, is that I think that LVP has a sense of humor, and isn't afraid to laugh at herself.  Erika just takes everything so damn seriously and humorlessly.  

I was actually starting to really warm up to Erika, as I said, but her ripping into Eileen, flashing those demon eyes, and her nastiness to Dorit kind of took me back to thinking that she is a pretentious, stone-cold bitch all over again.

I don't hate Erica - she is comedy gold, to me.

She is the only one on the show that is fabulous, sexy, can go commando, records, dances, 'sings', performs, yadda, yadda, yadda.

All of EJ's 'credits' are all about how people should view her - not as how she presents herself or comes across to people who do not know her.

She really hasn't give the rest of the cast or the fans anything of substance to judge her on.

As it has been discussed before - how do we know who we are dealing with?

Commando EJ or demure EJ?

Sexpot EJ or loving mother EJ?

Wife EJ or "the performer?"

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NJ,
You hit on some great points.

My 'barometer' on pretty much anything in life is "How much work do I have to put into something to enjoy it?"

I tend to dismiss all the 'needy shit' in life.

I am lazy that way?

I was laughing at the idea that a gay man - getting that tan up in her - seeing her naked is acceptable, but when a straight, married guy gets a glimpse of her snatch, it's Armageddon? It's that kind of whacked out logic that makes me go, "huh?"

It's not that I can't with EJ. It's more to the fact that I won't. When I need a clue, schedule, clock, appointment and have to read the rule book to make sure that nothing has changed since the last 'game'?

I am out.

[motorcitymom65]

1 hour ago, Jel said:

I will cop to being guilty of this myself (I don't hate Erika, but I am not a fan of hers for many reasons, and some of it is definitely related to Lisa V.). If she was a huge Lisa V pal, it might color my opinion to the rosy side a little. I don't know though. Interesting question!

No question that my opinion of Eileen has been affected by her treatment of Lisa Vanderpump. Le big time.

Oh, it's so hard not do to that, and of course this is what Bravo wants. A few years ago I read a Producer on the OC show I think talk about the fact that a favorite ploy during the editing is to take a similar issue or guilt by one gal, and show where another gal is basically guilty of the same thing to see the varying degrees of anger/justification  for one gals actions over the other.  They shoot 85 hours for every hour we see, so there is a ton of footage and they have their pick as to what they show us to help this along. He (or she, I cannot remember) said that the audience will generally forgive the person who is liked more, or who is friends with those that are liked more, than they will the gal that is less liked, even if the transgression is similar. They love to do this. Last season a big theme was the "telling someone else what has been said about them". Erika did it to the gals gossiping at lunch when she went to Yo, and they were mad about her doing it. Then Kathryn did the same thing to Erika when she revealed all to the group, and Erika was mad about it. Kathryn was forgiven because she was giving the lead gal a heads up that someone was breaking all the rules by talking smack about her. Most didn't have an issue with it. Erika went to Yo after hearing a conversation in a group setting where no one was trying to make any pretense of keeping secrets and told Yo about a really serious allegation that was being made about her. Again, both original conversations were had on camera, but the feelings of many were different in large part (IMO) not so much because of what was done, but who else it involved. Giving the hated Yo a heads up is bad (and I could never stand Yo), but giving LVP a heads up is good. Clearly, Erika made her situation worse by initially denying it was her who spilled the beans, but she fessed up pretty quickly. That didn't really change the way folks felt about her, however, because she was disloyal by betraying the things she had heard.

This season they are doing it with the whole "I don't remember that" deal. Lisar didn't remember saying what she said about Kim (or said she didn't) and for two weeks many were freaked out.  Dorit has not remembered things on many occasions this season, but there are lots of excuses given for each situation. Clearly, no two situations are the same, and Lisar's seemed much more remember-worthy, but the point is the reaction when a hated HW forgets something is different than when one not so hated HW forgets something (over and over again). 

I have often been guilty of this, but try now to look at the action and see if my reaction would be the same if it was directed at a different HW. For instance, I didn't care for Erika at all last season or the beginning of this one, certainly not a the time of panty-gate. Still, I am sure that if Dorit had done the exact same thing to Kyle (it would have been about her boobs hanging out rather than her flashing her puss) I would have been angered by it because Kyle is my gal. So why should it matter that I don't (or didn't at the time) care much for Erika?  Wrong should be wrong, but Bravo does it's best to make it very confusing. 

[mbutterfly]

On March 22, 2017 at 10:28 AM, HunterHunted said:

I've had a hard time synthesizing my problem with Erika in this episode. In many ways, she's worse than Eileen was with her feud with LVP. Eileen was at least sort of grumbley when she and LVP would discuss the cheating issue ad nauseum, but Erika is a manipulative ass. You don't get to tell Dorit that you've forgiven her and that you're over it, but bring up the issue and your hurt whenever you feel like it. It was so clear that Erika never forgave Dorit. That's not fair because Erika straight up lied to Dorit and Dorit relied upon the lie. I'm sure that Erika would never cast her actions that way, but that's what happened.

I don't even have an issue with Erika's perceived hypocrisy over being naked or nearly so in her Erika Jayne drag. However, I have a massive issue with Erika appearing to accept Dorit's apology, but holding on to a massive grudge. It's just so fundamentally unfair and frankly quite graceless, classless, and unkind. 

On to Erika and Eileen. I don't even like Eileen, but it was clear that her original slip was accidental and that she was sincerely apologetic. Perhaps Erika was already primed for a fight, but everyone saw that's not how Eileen meant it. Erika wouldn't hear of it. Once again, it showed just how sincerely unkind Erika can be.

On the subject of police officers, they put their lives on the line. I'm sure that it was very worrisome last summer. I work in a mental health system. I know that I shouldn't compare the two, but I so rarely see people expressing similar sympathies for mental health professionals. My colleagues are in harms way day in and day out, legally can't respond to a physical attack without possibly endangering their professional licenses, and don't get the luxury of walking around with guns. I have a colleague who can't drive because of the massive brain injury she experienced when a patient attacked her. I have another who has bites up and down her arms and on her face from patients. I had one who was a masters level clinician and can never work again because a patient bashed him in skull and pulled one of his eyes out. And he still has to pay off his student loans. No one tearfully worries about mental health professionals. To a certain extent, my colleagues rarely worry about the dangers because most think of their work as a calling. I don't know why we so rarely hear from police officers who express a similar ethos. /end of my soapbox rant.

Rinna is a disgraceful example of a human being.

I had similar experiences working as a chaplain in a facility for men with dual diagnoses. I'm a woman. There were moments.  I do care very much about safety for LE, but they are not alone walking into places where they may be hurt or worse. Erika's overreaction was either her attempt at getting a full time soap opera job or completely bitchy. Probably both. 

[nexxie]

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this (not through thread yet), but sometimes LVP spells out exactly what makes her tick. In this episode she says that her sadistic side makes her want to jump up and down to make them squeal like little piggies - showing no empathy for her "friend" Kyle's genuine anxiety. Doing and saying things to manipulate people into reacting to her is what LVP lives for. 

[zulualpha]

57 minutes ago, mbutterfly said:

I had similar experiences working as a chaplain in a facility for men with dual diagnoses. I'm a woman. There were moments.  I do care very much about safety for LE, but they are not alone walking into places where they may be hurt or worse. Erika's overreaction was either her attempt at getting a full time soap opera job or completely bitchy. Probably both. 

Or she is overreacting-to the point of hyperventilating at one point-because she has enormous guilt over leaving her 3 year old son and letting someone else raise him.  If she really is suffering with anxiety over him "every night" I would guess it's maternal protective instinct misplaced onto an adult due to guilt over abandoning her child. 

My fee is $100, preferably cash :>)

[lilmarysunshine]

3 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I was actually starting to really warm up to Erika, as I said, but her ripping into Eileen (who I don't really like), flashing those demon eyes, and her nastiness to Dorit (who I'm also still on the fence about) kind of took me back to thinking that she is a pretentious, stone-cold bitch all over again.

Exact same feelings here.

That stuff with Eileen was just straight up psycho to me.

[ElDosEquis]

1 hour ago, nexxie said:

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this (not through thread yet), but sometimes LVP spells out exactly what makes her tick. In this episode she says that her sadistic side makes her want to jump up and down to make them squeal like little piggies - showing no empathy for her "friend" Kyle's genuine anxiety. Doing and saying things to manipulate people into reacting to her is what LVP lives for. 

I like(d) LVP.

Then you started to see the edges begin to peel and I was kinda over her.....way over?

The fastest way to lose my respect is to claim you are sadistic/am SUCH a bitch/or use an excuse like "I was PMSing".

If she does her 'friends' that way, what does she have in store for people she doesn't care about? 

When she started VPR I thought she'd be in a different 'frame of mind' and not be so distant.

Nope, the fuckery on that show (doesn't anybody have scruples any more?) made me dislike her even more - actually?

Her insistence on being the queen bee on the gay pride parade float just cemented my thoughts on that.

Is it for her or for the people that are marching that day? If she cannot promote herself, she ain't gonna bother?

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Los Angeles LGBTQ Parade/Festival story.

I lived off of Loz Feliz near Sunset Blvd - One weekend my GF tells me, "there is a festival up the street, lets go."

We walked over to the main 'drag' (pun intended) and went about looking around...

We stopped to use a restroom in a restaurant along the street. It was down a stairway that led to a room that split into the men's and woman's.

I walked into the room and was struck with a strange feeling of deja vu..

The room was done with a mosaic tile on the wall between the doors. It was an intricate pattern, beautiful and if you saw it? You probably wouldn't forget it.

I stood there waiting for the GF and it hit me!

I was channel surfing one night and came across a porn movie (judge me, I know who I am?) - This was back in the days when Cinemax/HBO would do the late hard core porn movies that had all the naughty bits edited out? - So the scene is people having sex in front of a wall, it's a wall done with a mosaic tile on the wall between the door, It was an intricate pattern, beautiful and if you saw it? You probably wouldn't forget it.

LOL, I hadn't!

This was YEARS ago, but when ever I hear people talk about the Gay Pride parade?

I giggle.

[noveltylibrary65]

4 hours ago, notnowimbusy said:

I think at the last dinner, Rinna was drunk off her ass.  I can't stop watching her shove that food in her big mouth. . . and being that big, she almost missed it.  God, I would have loved a complete miss, and a slide of the food across her cheek.   When she kept yelling Dorit, Dorit, Dorit - several people were trying to stop her, but nope, she just kept going.  Then, the cocaine accusation, and the lame rational "I just had to ask". . NO you didn't.  

OMG the whole "I just have to be honest!"  That is most certainly not being *honest*...that is being viciously sick, you moron!!

[mbutterfly]

On March 22, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Trooper York said:

Dorit may be younger but there is no way that she is prettier than Erika. Erika is a substantial sexy woman. Many of us prefer a woman with meat on her bones so we have some cushion for the pushin! 

Erika is way more sexy than Dorit. By a mile.

Of course your mileage may vary.

Is she? People talk about her sensuality, and I don't see it. I have seen zero examples of her responding to another human being in a sensual manner. She performs, yes. She treats her husband like a (sometimes) kindly grandpa, yes. But sensual. I don't see it. I've known couples with the age difference of Tom and Erica, and you can see the deep emotional, and yes sensual, response to one another. She seems almost asexual to me. 

[ElDosEquis]

4 minutes ago, mbutterfly said:

Is she? People talk about her sensuality, and I don't see it. I have seen zero examples of her responding to another human being in a sensual manner. She performs, yes. She treats her husband like a (sometimes) kindly grandpa, yes. But sensual. I don't see it. I've known couples with the age difference of Tom and Erica, and you can see the deep emotional, and yes sensual, response to one another. She seems almost asexual to me. 

Sexual and sensual are two different animals.

Sensuality isn't just based on looks, it's more about personality, interactions, kindness, being vulnerable and having strength.

EJ is the cardboard cutout that EG holds in front of herself, It's just a method to keep people away - isn't it a sign of weakness to show people you may have feelings?

[peacockblue]

Coming up: repeats on Bravo. JUNQUE BOAT TO KOO KOO DOCK. 

SAKE MELTDOWN WITH SAMURAI BARBIE

Edited March 25, 2017 by peacockblue

[zoeysmom]

10 minutes ago, ElDosEquis said:

Sexual and sensual are two different animals.

Sensuality isn't just based on looks, it's more about personality, interactions, kindness, being vulnerable and having strength.

EJ is the cardboard cutout that EG holds in front of herself, It's just a method to keep people away - isn't it a sign of weakness to show people you may have feelings?

When I think of what makes a woman sexy/sensual-I immediately go to LVP and Kyle because their husbands, in spite of their flaws, are always enamored with them without objectifying them.  The other very sexy lady is Eileen-such beautiful eyes and just a stunning presence.  Dorit carries herself well and has lovely legs and a great body.  Back in the day out of her bathrobe was Yolanda and always Camille just perfection in their wardrobe. Other honorable mentions Joyce was very pretty and saucy with a devoted husband.  Brandi could be very sexy but her mouth always ruined the look.  Rinna and Erika are just too much on display.  Eden looks feral and Kim always feels like she is dressed like Miss Kitty from the old western. 

[noveltylibrary65]

2 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Kim always feels like she is dressed like Miss Kitty from the old western. 

Haa we won't forget the giant package bow blouse will we ?

[Trooper York]

I think it is kind of interesting that the guys who post here like Erika and think she is very sexy.

Most of the women not so much. 

Interesting.

[ElDosEquis]

Sexy = someone you want to bang and get out of the room before she wakes up.

Sensual = someone you want to bang and then hang around to hold their purse while they shop for underwear?

[Happy Camper]

On 3/23/2017 at 2:52 PM, KungFuBunny said:

There are times the makeup is so heavy I see Hedwig

Love Love Love Hedwig!! Thanks for the prompt! Now I know what I'm doing tonight!

[HunterHunted]

10 hours ago, Trooper York said:

I think it is kind of interesting that the guys who post here like Erika and think she is very sexy.

Most of the women not so much. 

Interesting.

I'm a straight woman. I need to connect to a person, intellectually or emotionally, to find them personally sexy, but I have no problems admitting when a person is generally thought of as sexy by whatever beauty standards are prevailing. I think Erika is very attractive and sexy by most American beauty standards. She doesn't do it for me because I think she's a little cold, but more importantly I don't feel like this is an authentic expression of her own feelings about sex and sexuality.

I find a strange powerlessness in her videos. They feel like her body and its attractiveness are the most important things about "Erika Jayne." For example in the XXpen$ive video, the shots of Erika begin or end with Erika's tits or ass in the center of the frame, while her face is pushed to edge of the frame. There are other shots where her face is cut completely out. This is fucking insane because Erika is allegedly a singer, but so many of the shots treat her face as an afterthought.

Contrast with Nicki Minaj in Anaconda. This is a very T&A focused video. But even when it focuses on her boobs or butt, her face is usually at the dead center of the shot or it's a wide shot.

Edited March 26, 2017 by HunterHunted

[Trooper York]

Sexy= what Lisa Vanderpump says about every animal she meets be it a dog, horse or swan.

Sensual= what no one ever said about Eden, LisaRinna or Dorito. 

Just sayn'

[lololol]

11 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Just what the heck is going on in this picture??  I can't tell you where my mind went!   ;-)

The explanation to Tom for this is simple - "That is NOT Erika Girardi - that is Erika Jayne - we're two different people, you know!"

What a load of BS. Saggy balls should be appalled at what is happening in this picture.

[lololol]

The comment that ErICKa looks 30 is a LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lilmarysunshine]

OK....I watched as much of that video as I could tolerate. Yeah, yeah.....she might look great for her age. But I cannot believe that a woman in her mid-40s is completely devoid of any sophistication, including artistic sophistication - those lyrics, my God. She is totally without talent. She might be good for a porn movie but I could think of a lot of women with actual talent who look good (if not as good) and would be considered "sexier" with their talent and the way they carry themselves, in general.

But I'm a middle-aged straight woman so what do I know?  (I did try to put myself in my husband's brain, though, to formulate my opinion. lol )

[Happy Camper]

On 3/23/2017 at 6:08 PM, notnowimbusy said:

It really is Pandora's fault.  No question.  They lived in France, and she wanted to go to school in LA, so they all moved here.  If it weren't for Pandora, Lisa would still be in France.  Damn her.  

I say blame it on Yolanda. Apparently she brought Erika to the show because they were the best of friends (cough cough, side whisper... "apparently"). 

If it weren't for Yolanda, Erika would never have been forced to socialize with the likes of Dorit.

[noveltylibrary65]

2 hours ago, Trooper York said:

I think it is kind of interesting that the guys who post here like Erika and think she is very sexy.

Most of the women not so much. 

Interesting.

what can we say, some guys prefer cold fishes ?

[lololol]

15 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

OK....I watched as much of that video as I could tolerate. Yeah, yeah.....she might look great for her age. But I cannot believe that a woman in her mid-40s is completely devoid of any sophistication, including artistic sophistication - those lyrics, my God. She is totally without talent. She might be good for a porn movie but I could think of a lot of women with actual talent who look good (if not as good) and would be considered "sexier" with their talent and the way they carry themselves, in general.

But I'm a middle-aged straight woman so what do I know?  (I did try to put myself in my husband's brain, though, to formulate my opinion. lol )

ZERO talent, low class, lame lyrics, egotist, narcissist.

[lololol]

3 hours ago, Trooper York said:

I think it is kind of interesting that the guys who post here like Erika and think she is very sexy.

Most of the women not so much. 

Interesting.

Of course guys would think someone who looks like a porn star is sexy - YAWN.

[noveltylibrary65]

3 minutes ago, lololol said:

Of course guys would think someone who looks like a porn star is sexy - YAWN.

yup, as usual thinking without the brain ;p

[AKA...CJ86]

3 hours ago, Trooper York said:

I think it is kind of interesting that the guys who post here like Erika and think she is very sexy.

Not this one, mostly from my perception that if we were to meet in person, I'd be assimilated into the glam squad.

Knowing someone like Erika, or I feel like is reminiscent of Erika, if by chance I were to know Erika, I know I'd be nothing more than the GBF, which is why my heart breaks for the Glam Squad. They aren't people to her, just an accessory, let's say her Giggy. 

That's why, to me, at least this one guy, Erica conjures such odious feelings from me.

[HunterHunted]

11 minutes ago, CyberJawa1986 said:

Not this one, mostly from my perception that if we were to meet in person, I'd be assimilated into the glam squad.

Knowing someone like Erika, or I feel like is reminiscent of Erika, if by chance I were to know Erika, I know I'd be nothing more than the GBF, which is why my heart breaks for the Glam Squad. They aren't people to her, just an accessory, let's say her Giggy. 

That's why, to me, at least this one guy, Erica conjures such odious feelings from me.

I've always wondered what the squad gets up to when she drags them along on these trips. Are they sightseeing? Shopping? Checking out the local cuisine? Getting pampered in the spa? Staying in their rooms watching local tv? Using Grindr for games of Pokémon Ho, a game the squad invented about hooking up with different dudes when they travel? What are they doing? 

[Happy Camper]

On 3/24/2017 at 8:00 AM, zoeysmom said:

Gee I wonder why people wonder what Harry did, when his wife laughs about using a strap-on, on him? 

Hmmmmmm. Let's do talk about the husbands.

[chenoa333]

10 hours ago, Trooper York said:

So I have been away from the thread for a while. Let me see if I got this right.

Ambulance chasing scumbag Lawyers......good.

Voluptuous, hot, sexy woman.....bad.

Good luck with that.

Welcome back TrooperYork!

4 hours ago, Trooper York said:

I think it is kind of interesting that the guys who post here like Erika and think she is very sexy.

Most of the women not so much. 

Interesting.

I'm a woman and i have always liked Erika. 

[TattleTeeny]

4 hours ago, QuiteContraryMoni said:

Christ. Which user do I have set to ignore said that lol. That truly is a multiple lol. 

Is it me?!

[noveltylibrary65]

On 3/22/2017 at 10:38 AM, Yolo said:

I believe Ericka had been holding all her frustration in regarding Dorit and that's what the end result was. She had it coming, I would've done the same thing. But I would've stopped Dorit in her tracks the first time, I don't play that.

She flat out warned Dorit ominously like she was the frigging Godfather immediately after receiving the panties. I forget the exact words, something about bringing crap.  It wasn't like she was holding anything in.  And soon after she assured everyone it was over after she apologized.  She really is creepy.

[noveltylibrary65]

16 hours ago, ElDosEquis said:

My 'barometer' on pretty much anything in life is "How much work do I have to put into something to enjoy it?"

I tend to dismiss all the 'needy shit' in life.

I am lazy that way?

Love this...guess I am 'lazy' too.  I have no time for hurt feels over something that isn't even close to intentional.  Get a grip, people!

[noveltylibrary65]

16 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Still, I am sure that if Dorit had done the exact same thing to Kyle (it would have been about her boobs hanging out rather than her flashing her puss) I would have been angered by it because Kyle is my gal. So why should it matter that I don't (or didn't at the time) care much for Erika?  Wrong should be wrong, but Bravo does it's best to make it very confusing. 

But Bravo doesn't corner the market, it can be just as confusing IRL ...if a good friend is ganged up on, you naturally side with her.  If it's someone you really don't care for at all, you get a little smug satisfaction.  Unfortunately we're only human!

The thing is, I really liked Erika until the dinner.  Even after the junk boat I was still a bit forgiving.   So 'wrong is wrong' worked here for me.

[ElDosEquis]

12 hours ago, QuiteContraryMoni said:

Sexy = When you can't wait for him to leave because you faked yet another orgasm so he'd finish that incessant grinding, which reminds you, book a bikini wax. Oh, did I pay the electric bill?

Sensual = I need undies. Why is this wimp following me? God, he's now holding my purse.

 

Not so sexy = Anyone who cannot communicate their desires in bed and why are you sleeping with someone that you felt the need to 'fake it' with?

Not so sensual = Having to get around in the dark because someone THOUGHT they paid the utilities but instead spent the money on underwear.

; )

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One of the greatest lines I heard during my courting days?

"I spread my mind before I spread my legs."

[racked]

16 hours ago, Trooper York said:

I think it is kind of interesting that the guys who post here like Erika and think she is very sexy.

Most of the women not so much. 

Interesting.

Was there a poll I missed? I'm a guy and I don't think Erika is sexy. Beautiful but not sexy. She's definitely got that surgeon sculpted Kardashian body tho. 

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I had similar experiences working as a chaplain in a facility for men with dual diagnoses. I'm a woman. There were moments.  I do care very much about safety for LE, but they are not alone walking into places where they may be hurt or worse. Erika's overreaction was either her attempt at getting a full time soap opera job or completely bitchy. Probably both.

I think Erika reacted in a completely crazy manner but I'm willing to cut her a tiny bit of slack or at least understanding based on the timing of when this was filmed. If it was last summer, there were so many protests against LEOs going on and multiple assassinations. Every cop I know felt demoralized and hated.  I don't think it at all justified her reaction or her acting like no one else on the planet could understand her fear and pain but I do think the timing heightened her feelings. Something innocuous set her off and whereas most people would get upset and maybe cry, she's so damn tightly wound that when she gets upset it boils over into something beyond comprehension. 

Edited March 26, 2017 by racked

[Happy Camper]

On 3/25/2017 at 1:17 AM, HunterHunted said:

Does Erika talk about important shit?

If Erika is trying to prove to us how intelligent she is, she should probably choose her phrases more carefully.

"I say important shit, you say too much boring shit'.

Wow. At first I found it offensive when her husband shushed her. Now I can understand why he does it.

[noveltylibrary65]

On 3/25/2017 at 4:10 AM, FairyDusted said:

I can't believe I read the whole thing. I logged in mid episode and the forum was rapidly  growing with more Green Posts than I have ever seen in a single episode. It's all been said and then some. Plus we had Tom Petty and Sam Kinison mentions. I wonder how many episodes are  left?

Two more eps from what I've read, reunion starts April 11th.

[TattleTeeny]

Haha, no--I'm fine with her, but as to looking 30? Nah.

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[jaync]

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Let me see if I got this right.

You didn't.

[Juliegirlj]

1 hour ago, racked said:

Was there a poll I missed? I'm a guy and I don't think Erika is sexy. Beautiful but not sexy. She's definitely got that surgeon sculpted Kardashian body tho. 

I think Erika reacted in a completely crazy manner but I'm willing to cut her a tiny bit of slack or at least understanding based on the timing of when this was filmed. If it was last summer, there were so many protests against LEOs going on and multiple assassinations. Every cop I know felt demoralized and hated.  I don't think it at all justified her reaction or her acting like no one else on the planet could understand her fear and pain but I do think the timing heightened her feelings. Something innocus set her off and whereas most people would get upset and maybe cry, she's so damn tightly wound that when she gets upset it boils over into something beyond comprehension. 

I do think Erika was on high alert, as were all families of officers-hence the comment about the "climate". 

[Wings]

38 minutes ago, noveltylibrary65 said:

Two more eps from what I've read, reunion starts April 11th.

This feels like a shorter season.  I think Yolanda and her 'condition' made last season drag.

We will finish with a bang, thank you Rinna!  I don't like the woman but I did LOVE her cocaine comment.  She is something else.  Since I don't like Dorit, even a little, I found it very entertaining.  :^)   

[Granimal]

1 hour ago, racked said:

Was there a poll I missed? I'm a guy and I don't think Erika is sexy. Beautiful but not sexy. She's definitely got that surgeon sculpted Kardashian body tho. 

I think Erika reacted in a completely crazy manner but I'm willing to cut her a tiny bit of slack or at least understanding based on the timing of when this was filmed. If it was last summer, there were so many protests against LEOs going on and multiple assassinations. Every cop I know felt demoralized and hated.  I don't think it at all justified her reaction or her acting like no one else on the planet could understand her fear and pain but I do think the timing heightened her feelings. Something innocuous set her off and whereas most people would get upset and maybe cry, she's so damn tightly wound that when she gets upset it boils over into something beyond comprehension. 

Huh, like Racked, I seem to find the exact opposite. Predominantly it seemed that it was male posters that didn't like Erika. Now it seems like nearly everyone regardless of their sex doesn't like Erika. Well either way, I disagree with the premise that- women don't like her, men do. I feel like I've seen equal support from each group, and equal dislike from each group. Maybe I'm confused about who is posting as male, and who is posting as female. Trust no one on the internet! Haha.

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, racked said:

Was there a poll I missed? I'm a guy and I don't think Erika is sexy. Beautiful but not sexy. She's definitely got that surgeon sculpted Kardashian body tho. 

I think Erika reacted in a completely crazy manner but I'm willing to cut her a tiny bit of slack or at least understanding based on the timing of when this was filmed. If it was last summer, there were so many protests against LEOs going on and multiple assassinations. Every cop I know felt demoralized and hated.  I don't think it at all justified her reaction or her acting like no one else on the planet could understand her fear and pain but I do think the timing heightened her feelings. Something innocus set her off and whereas most people would get upset and maybe cry, she's so damn tightly wound that when she gets upset it boils over into something beyond comprehension. 

Erika's DWTS platform is something along the lines of a woman embracing her sexuality-according to one of the judges.  Another judge just called her raunchy.  I have no problem if what the Erikas do make them feel sexy, I do have a problem with 45 year old woman thinking anyone needs her as a role model in embracing their sexuality.  The idea behind embracing your sexuality is that you are comfortable in your own skin, with your weight and looks and that it comes from within.  As far as women entertainers in their 40s go and being "sexy" there are successful beautiful women such as Gwen Stefani and Charlize Theron who seem to do just fine in conveying 40 and fabulous. 

When I think of Erika Jayne, I think of as you say Kim Kardashian and Kim Zolciak.  There is just so much in the wigs, make-up, clothes.  With Erika it seems like one has to peel away the layers until they get to the person.  Continually saying she is the most fabulous of the group, and looks the best, and has the best clothes and the best of everything, just doesn't come off as sexy to me, writing songs about how it is so expensive to keep her just seems to defy the credo of embracing one's sexuality.  As long as she owns that she is superficial and not terribly deep I don't have a problem with it. 

The Erikas who want us to believe are intelligent, has a serious fatal flaw and that is she does not listen.  Add to that the fact she puts women down as a whole as being catty and not up to her standards as friends.  During the boat ride she asked Dorit a question and when Dorit started to answer, which is what one does when asked a question, Erika went into her diatribe about how superior her talking points were to Dorit's and attacked her. 

Skip to dinner and there was Rinna demanding and apology on behalf of Erika and Erika refusing to accept it at any cost.  When Eileen had a point contrary to Erika's pity party she went off.  Again not listening.  Then when Rinna asked Dorit to defend her marriage, again Erika not listening decided to make it about hers. As soon as Eileen admitted her poor choice of words, it should have been the end, instead Erika continued to go off.  I think it goes to the deeper Erika that she is unwilling to accept an apology and expects those around her to defend her position.  Money has a way of doing that with people. 

[biakbiak]

9 minutes ago, wings707 said:

This feels like a shorter season.  I think Yolanda and her 'condition' made last season drag.

We will finish with a bang, thank you Rinna!  I don't like the woman but I did LOVE her cocaine comment.  She is something else.  Since I don't like Dorit, even a little, I found it very entertaining.  :^)   

If there are only two more eps before the reunion than it is shorter last season had 20 eps before the reunion.

[zoeysmom]

1 minute ago, biakbiak said:

If there are only two more eps before the reunion than it is shorter last season had 20 eps before the reunion.

And yet this year there were only a couple of so-so episodes.  I guess it is better to keep people wanting more.

[ElDosEquis]

Upon further review?

EJ WOULD be a catch, I wouldn't have to stand around the lingerie department, holding her purse?

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Time for more HW haiku?

 

Xanax pills in a bag?

Next, sell blenders on TV?

smoothie recipes??

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Overseas drama

Hong Kong is wasted on them

Travel porn , gone bad

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More dinner drama

No need for fortune cookies?

"You will be attacked!"

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Eden Sassoon

May have martial arts background

Watch her choke castmates?

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Some  reunion  news

Rinna takes it on the chin?

Loose lips sink Lisa!?

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One thing forgotten

On International Trips

Their fucking manners?

[Wings]

10 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

If there are only two more eps before the reunion than it is shorter last season had 20 eps before the reunion.

Wow, huge difference.  I wonder why.  I suppose in order to keep their stars (Kyle/LVP) the may have had to do that.  They may not have been willing to return for more.