S04.E06: I Kissed a Girl

[Cherrio]

I am not positive they showed a snippet of the BGDC from last week on this episode, maybe I imagined it.

But, my honest opinion as far as dance goes, Whitney although limited physically has much better form and lines than Jiya.

So, the dance off could be interesting if they are judging actual dance.

The scene where Whitney copies Jiya's arms over the head move, Whitney's form was good, Jiya wasn't even close.

You can always see a big difference between Whitney and Todd.  She has some technique, he looks gangly and awkward.

[okerry]

29 minutes ago, Runnergirl said:

I noticed too that the horse's gait did not appear normal and I wonder if that's why the handler stayed with the horse. Not for Whit's benefit, but rather for the horse's--horses get weird when they have inexperienced frightened riders, even if they are experienced horses. Horse: "Wow, this woman is heavy, not sitting right and doesn't know how to communicate to me. What am I supposed to do? Oh, ok. Someone I know has my reins."

Exactly! "Hey, one of us has to be in charge - horse or human - and if it ain't you, it must be me." That's when the horse takes off for the barn.

ETA: I used to teach people to ride and show, and this was one of the worst horse-related stunts I've ever seen. It was completely unsafe for both the horse and Twitney, and was an extremely poor demonstration of "riding." Horsemanship is about the Horse. It's not about you. Sitting up there squealing and rolling around was ridiculous and stupid. But of course, Twit thinks of nothing but herself and I'm sure her FB page is jammed with comments about how brave she was. Blechhh

Edited March 1, 2017 by okerry

[John M]

10 hours ago, Dot said:

The operative phrase, used twice in your first paragraph, is "not anywhere near Whit size."  I stand by my statement, with this addition: no attractive lesbian with a slim/normal body & apparently a good, productive life. is gonna hook-up with a 400# mess. If you're not "family," I don't think you can really understand the life. It's like that radio station -- and Whit & her minions -- thinking it was so cute of them to assault gay people in their celebration of pride in who we are with stupid questions & jokes that are 50 years old. It's one day of the year when someone who's gay can enjoy being who she/he is without having to endue the sneers of straights. But, oh no. Here comes adorable Twit & those Kiss95 jerks.

I'm family, I mean who is Whit's size? The fattest guy I know and he is FAT, not as Whit but close, is belle of the ball at some of the big bear events, even with much, much smaller guys. I would call bullshit if I hadn't seen it myself, unfortunately because I am really not into seeing two giant bears making out and dry humping at the bar when the bear parties spill into the gay bars instead of their own events. 

Also let's not rule out fat fetishists, people's fetishes can surprise you.

And need I mention Tom Ford and his husband?

[TurtlePower]

27 minutes ago, okerry said:

Exactly! "Hey, one of us has to be in charge - horse or human - and if it ain't you, it must be me." That's when the horse takes off for the barn.

ETA: I used to teach people to ride and show, and this was one of the worst horse-related stunts I've ever seen. It was completely unsafe for both the horse and Twitney, and was an extremely poor demonstration of "riding." Horsemanship is about the Horse. It's not about you. Sitting up there squealing and rolling around was ridiculous and stupid. But of course, Twit thinks of nothing but herself and I'm sure her FB page is jammed with comments about how brave she was. Blechhh

I learned show jumping as a kid:). 

If I were the horse, I'd be reassessing the trust level in my handler for putting me in a physically uncomfortable and somewhat scary situation.

[Kickboxer]

About Bab's hair: With some hair types, specifically thin and frizz-prone, lightening and then flat-ironing it consistently is basically going to lead to broken horrid ends. Yes, I have similiar hair and some untrendy poof is just going to happen in humid places. Yes the style can be updated but if it grows slowly then she is stuck with hair she hates for a couple of years. 

 

About Whit: she seemed more self-aware in this episode in her talking heads, or at least more comfortable. Jiya cracks me up tho, "The Battle is going down!" Hee, poor Whitney.  Ah well, at least she is getting some action from her amazingly hot friend.

[ClareWalks]

@Alapaki Your entire post was spectacular, a stand-alone mic-drop post that I wanted to quote the whole thing and just write "WORD" but I decided to @ you for a shoutout instead :)

[Nowhere]

TLC must hate Whitney because this season is the worst about making her look ridiculous. I mean, it's pretty bad. She looks like a complete fool. First the pregnancy scare, then the boob massage with friends, then the Roy rejection, house party in drag, the dance off, the list goes on and none of it puts Whitney in good light. When this show started, I think she was meant to be someone to look up too for fat people. She even did some sort of seminar, remember? Now she's a joke and every season makes her look worse than the previous. 

[Nowhere]

10 minutes ago, ClareWalks said:

@Alapaki Your entire post was spectacular, a stand-alone mic-drop post that I wanted to quote the whole thing and just write "WORD" but I decided to @ you for a shoutout instead :)

Darn it. I wish you would have quoted it. Now I have to go back and find @Alapaki's latest genius. :)

ETA of course Alapaki did not disappoint. I just have to say that I also panic over the post office. Your MIL and I have that in common. LOL!

Edited March 1, 2017 by Nowhere

[ClareWalks]

1 hour ago, Alapaki said:

After this episode the little "pause" symbol on my remote is nearly worn off from having to stop the show after nearly every sentence that came out of Whitney's mouth to yell at the screen.

"Jiya challenged my girls to a Dance Off".  No she didn't.  Roy proposed it.  And he only mentioned Whitney and Jiya.  Whitney is the one who brought up "her girls" to use as human shields to try to get out of the Dance Off.

And I'm perfectly fine with the way Jiya treated Whitney when Whitney showed up at Jiya's studio.  Nothing Jiya said was wrong.

"I don't even know what a Dance Off is", seconds before explaining the rules in detail to her "class".

"Now I'm responsible for putting together a whole 39th Anniversary celebration", which as far as I can tell consisted of driving her mother to a wig shop, and calling a restaurant to make a reservation for a single table.

"I'm so busy right now with [insert single task]".  She's worse than my 78-year-old mother-in-law who has an anxiety attack because she has to go the Post Office next Thursday.  That routine's getting tired.  But just reflects yet again how empty Whitney's real life truly is.

HATE-WATCH.  That's all I'm doing at this point.

That's another thing!  "We don't twerk"?  Holy Shit!  When you do that circle-thing, that's ALL. ANY. OF. YOU. DO.!!!!!

For @Nowhere :)

[Nowhere]

2 minutes ago, ClareWalks said:

For @Nowhere :)

Ah thank you! Clarewalks always has my back :)

[John M]

1. Whitney keeps complaining about being so busy, WTF is she doing? Her dance class is once a week if that? She works at the radio station maybe half a day one day a week? 

2. Singles night at the gay clurb? When is it not singles night at the gay clurb? Hell half the couples are trying to take a boy home, I know when me and my ex went to the clurb we would take guys home for threesomes. And no Whit, why would you an obese straight girl find a man at singles night at the gay clurb? You think you are going to turn a gay guy straight with your sexiness? And how are you that sweaty at the clurb? He hair is drenched and she is dripping in sweat. Gross, who wants to hug her? And how long is she going to go without showering after this? I'm just going to say clurb again because wtf? I've been to many a gay club in many different cities and if anyone said clurb I would assume they had a stroke.

3. No, you can't horseback ride.

4.  Your freelance job is fake! And you are late for your fake freelance job. AND YOU DON'T SHOWER! Also you are a braying moron, who would want to be around you for 4 hours?

5.  Professional server by trade? I thought he was a dancer. And what does professional server mean? I get there are some servers that work in high end restaurants that make really good money and are very skilled at the art of serving but professional server could mean works at Applebee's.

6. A single 30 year old without children? Oh No! Speaking as a single 30 year old along with a lot of my friends, fuck off Whit, some of us are happy and single and don't have pathetic lives like you Whit.

7. What are you going to call former president Clinton. First of all, god that is so depressing now, secondly yeah, good question, that certainly isn't the question every single person on earth was asking.

8. Holy grail of inspiration? How were you inspired? You are planning on doing exactly what someone just taught you. And that was not a workout, there was an obese woman in her 70s right behind you that was doing better than you.

9. Poor buddy, he sounds and looks like he is on death's door. Like if you told me right now he had late stage COPD or congestive heart failure I would believe you.

10. No you don't know what horses are thinking. It's not like you don't what they are thinking, it's a fucking horse. Do speak horse Whit? No, you do not speak horse, no one speaks horse so no,  you don't know what they are thinking. She is so annoying.

11. Whit what is wrong with you? You had one kiss and planning a coffee meetup and you are "dating"? What is this, middle school? You are in your 30s! Hell I'm sleeping with one of my best friends and I wouldn't saying we are "dating". Why are you so immature about everything? Whit stopped all personal and emotional growth about midway through high school it seems.

Edited March 1, 2017 by John M

[goodbyeglittergirl]

Just wanted to point out that this thread has highlighted the paradox of eating-while-fat. Eat something? "You're so gross. Do you know the calorie count? How many fat grams are in that?" Don't eat something, or specifically eat something like a salad or fruit? "Who are you kidding? Are you going to go pound a plate of pasta over your sink later?" It doesn't matter what Whitney might eat on camera - it will piss someone off. 

I was shocked she was able to horseback ride. I have a daughter really into horses and so we try to do a trail ride or something on vacations. I am in the low 200's and always have to be really careful to check and make sure the stable we want to visit will allow me to ride - most have really strict weight limits. My guess is that it was a really, really short walk around on the horse - just enough to film - and that was it.

Whitney's smooching partner in this ep is super cute. I enjoyed her.

As someone pointed out above, Whitney would never lose any of her BGDC members to Jiya's Trophy Wife class, because it's not an insubstantial commute from Charlotte to Greensboro. Even though Jiya's class is accessible to me, though, since I live in Charlotte - there is not a CHANCE I would take a class there. I don't enjoy public shaming and the idea that I would get yelled at in class for not getting low enough or doing something well enough is NOT my idea of a good time. No thanks. I will say from taking Whitney's class that while it was not the most challenging dance class, it was a very welcoming and supportive atmosphere.

I was bummed that Whitney wasn't in Charlotte this past weekend to do a class with The Fitness Marshall, who held 2 "cardio concerts" this weekend down here. I thought that would be a good fit for her and they have been on social media together before, so I sort of thought she might be around. 

[ClareWalks]

26 minutes ago, John M said:

7. What are you going to call former president Clinton. First of all, god that is so depressing now, secondly yeah, good question, that certainly isn't the question every single person on earth was asking.

THIS. I was like "really, you vapid asshole? You have the chance to ask the first woman who has a good shot at being president a question, and you make it a question about her HUSBAND? Or her CLOTHING?" I get that it's a fluffy morning show and you don't have to ask a lot of hardcore questions, but at least something like "what women throughout history have inspired you?"

[Barb23]

I'm confused about the anniversary dinner.  First Whit complained about having to plan the thing, like she was planning a party for 50, (which she would have plenty of time to do BTW.)  I thought Whit & Todd would be joining  Babs & Glenn for dinner from the way they were dressed.  But after escorting her dad in,  they were shown hiding &spying to see Glenn's reaction to Bab's blonde wig.  Then it showed Whit serving dinner to them & that was it.  It did crack me up that Whit was complaining about her flat shoes as soon as they got out of the car & made comment that she should have worn her Crocs. I could actually see her doing that.

She was truly disgusting walking out of the clurb, dripping in sweat (complete with huge sweat spot on her back) & then she hugged her friend. Just yuck!!

Once again, Whit couldn't believe she was turned down or not even offered the radio slot.  That look on her face was priceless. 

Hats off to the poster last week who described Whit's walk as having a "hitch in her giddy up" or something similar.  Love it - that's all I can think of when they show a shot of her waddling from behind. 

Finally, I wish Whit would do something with her own hair.  I don't think the brassy blonde two tone look is good on anyone.  

[DNR]

I laughed out loud when Twit said her mantra is "never let them see you sweat" about the dance off.  We've seen Twit hair & clothes drenched after minimal activity so many times it just made me Lulz.  ( and I would bet her no showering comes after some of these sweaty days .... P.  U. ) 

omg that poor horse ... He must be in traction right now 

Edited March 1, 2017 by DNR
Ninja edit

[Ocean Chick]

I have nothing to say because all y'all covered it already, so beautifully.  Especially @Alapaki and @John M.  Amanda is lovely and I hope they're paying her a good wage to do this.  Babs should keep the wig on, always.  Poor horse.

[ClareWalks]

15 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

Hats off to the poster last week who described Whit's walk as having a "hitch in her giddy up" or something similar.  Love it - that's all I can think of when they show a shot of her waddling from behind. 

That was me! :) And OMG, totally agree about "planning the dinner." Like, you made a reservation? And put up some decorations? Wow, Whit, don't strain yourself. (Don't get me wrong, it was a nice gesture, but it wasn't as challenging as she made it out to be)

[AmyB]

2 minutes ago, ClareWalks said:

That was me! :) And OMG, totally agree about "planning the dinner." Like, you made a reservation? And put up some decorations? Wow, Whit, don't strain yourself. (Don't get me wrong, it was a nice gesture, but it wasn't as challenging as she made it out to be)

Ugh and her saying she was roped into it. I wanted to smack her! Those are her parents! I am already planing my parents 50th which is not for another 3 years. Planning my grandmother's 90th birthday which is this year and next year it is my parents 70th. And better believe I am doing more than just making reservations. She acted like she couldn't have been bother by that cuz she had this dance battle to prepare for. 

[TurtlePower]

1 hour ago, goodbyeglittergirl said:

Just wanted to point out that this thread has highlighted the paradox of eating-while-fat. Eat something? "You're so gross. Do you know the calorie count? How many fat grams are in that?" Don't eat something, or specifically eat something like a salad or fruit? "Who are you kidding? Are you going to go pound a plate of pasta over your sink later?" It doesn't matter what Whitney might eat on camera - it will piss someone off. 

I was shocked she was able to horseback ride. I have a daughter really into horses and so we try to do a trail ride or something on vacations. I am in the low 200's and always have to be really careful to check and make sure the stable we want to visit will allow me to ride - most have really strict weight limits. My guess is that it was a really, really short walk around on the horse - just enough to film - and that was it.

Whitney's smooching partner in this ep is super cute. I enjoyed her.

As someone pointed out above, Whitney would never lose any of her BGDC members to Jiya's Trophy Wife class, because it's not an insubstantial commute from Charlotte to Greensboro. Even though Jiya's class is accessible to me, though, since I live in Charlotte - there is not a CHANCE I would take a class there. I don't enjoy public shaming and the idea that I would get yelled at in class for not getting low enough or doing something well enough is NOT my idea of a good time. No thanks. I will say from taking Whitney's class that while it was not the most challenging dance class, it was a very welcoming and supportive atmosphere.

I was bummed that Whitney wasn't in Charlotte this past weekend to do a class with The Fitness Marshall, who held 2 "cardio concerts" this weekend down here. I thought that would be a good fit for her and they have been on social media together before, so I sort of thought she might be around. 

When does Whitney have her classes? People have said it's only during filming (which doesn't make sense because there would be a lack of consistency.  I've been to the site and it always says no classes are scheduled.

As far as Jiya's class, being yelled at for improper technique doesn't bother me, which leads me to the choreographer Whitney hired. I like her so far from the previews, but there again we differ on the whole being called-out-in-front-of-the-class thing. Peoples' personalities differ. I remember being yelled at--and I mean YELLED at--by my track coach before a race for slacking off or something but instead of feeling hurt, I channeled that energy into racing and took first place. Guess it affects people differently.

[Cherrio]

58 minutes ago, ClareWalks said:

That was me! :) And OMG, totally agree about "planning the dinner." Like, you made a reservation? And put up some decorations? Wow, Whit, don't strain yourself. (Don't get me wrong, it was a nice gesture, but it wasn't as challenging as she made it out to be)

The balcony had a beautiful view of a parking lot. 

[AmyB]

MBFFL page just posted that kissing clip with amanda and titles it friends... or lovers?  hahahah. 

Edited March 1, 2017 by AmyB

[Dot]

5 hours ago, Hana Chan said:

Another episode when I was torn between laughing outright at this idiot and being exceedingly angry. Personally, I hope to watch Jiya wipe the floor with Whitless since Jiya is a serious dance instructor and Whiney (typo, and it stays) is just using "her girls" to make her look like she knows what she's doing. If Whitney actually cared about what being shown up by dancers who are better than hers will do to "her girls", she'd just tell Jiya to stick it and not get baited into the dance off. Like everything else, this is about Whitney and her pride. If her girls are demoralized because the TWs are better dancers, that's all on Whitney at this point.

And I don't disagree with Jiya. Whitney is in horrible shape and she can't push her students if she can't do things herself. Jiya's abrasiveness didn't bother me since I'd studied ballet as a child under an old-school Russian dancer who never failed to point out that our thighs were jiggling and used a stick to get us to lift our legs into a proper arabesque. If I didn't leave class crying and bruised, it was a good class. I wouldn't mind taking Jiya's class if I was in the area because it looked like a lot of fun.

The whole faux-lesbian storyline had my eyes rolling since it's so obviously staged. Not that I don't think that 99.999% of the crap on this show is staged, but this was so obvious that you could see it being staged from Mars. Someone who hasn't seen or spoken with Whitney in years and knows that she's (to her knowledge) only dated men is now hitting on her and all of a sudden Whitney is open to having a romantic relationship with another woman. I know that there are plenty of women who discover their bisexuality later in life, but it would have been more believable if Whitney was the one making the overtures and not have this be another case of the show trying to make us think that everyone has the hots for her. I give it a week before she's panting after the next guy who won't give her the time of day unless there's a paycheck involved.

What had me angry was the stupid horseback bit because it was really obvious that this was dangerous to both Whitney and the poor horse they had her perched on. She wasn't on a tiny little horse and he looked like he'd be fit to carry the average rider without any trouble, but Whitney is hardly the average rider. It was obvious that the horse was struggling to carry her and you could see him trying to get his hindquarters tucked up to help bear her weight and the one good thing I could say is that it looked like they only went for a very brief walk to get some footage and not an extended ride. But it was absolutely inexcusable for that barn to put Whitney on a horse that clearly wasn't big enough to carry her. 

But it was also very dangerous for Whitney because it was obvious before she even tried to mount up that she physically would not be able to ride with any modicum of safety. She could barely get her leg over and there is no way that she could use her legs to balance herself or stay on the horse if he did anything unexpected. She seemed terrified and I don't blame her because if that horse decided to try to dump her, she would have had absolutely no way of staying on and could be seriously hurt if she fell. And with her size, keeping her balance even at a slow walk would be a major challenge and I don't blame her for being afraid. That being said, it was pathetic that she needed two people to help (one to lead her horse like a kid on a pony ride and someone to help her stay in the saddle). She wasn't riding - she was being lugged around like cargo. And I got frustrated when she freaked out over the horse moving at a slow walk. If that horse had been moving any slower, he'd have been going in reverse so her comments about him "clippity clopping" away just irked me. Bitch, we saw what we saw and what was on TV was an animal barely able to move under her weight.

Another mess of an episode, watchable only so I can feel some self-righteous anger at her antics. 

Loved "lugged around like cargo."  Exactly! Also, both "Whitless" & "Whiney" are now being stolen by me to add to "Twit," my go-to fave.

[Dot]

3 hours ago, John M said:

1. Whitney keeps complaining about being so busy, WTF is she doing? Her dance class is once a week if that? She works at the radio station maybe half a day one day a week? 

2. Singles night at the gay clurb? When is it not singles night at the gay clurb? Hell half the couples are trying to take a boy home, I know when me and my ex went to the clurb we would take guys home for threesomes. And no Whit, why would you an obese straight girl find a man at singles night at the gay clurb? You think you are going to turn a gay guy straight with your sexiness? And how are you that sweaty at the clurb? He hair is drenched and she is dripping in sweat. Gross, who wants to hug her? And how long is she going to go without showering after this? I'm just going to say clurb again because wtf? I've been to many a gay club in many different cities and if anyone said clurb I would assume they had a stroke.

3. No, you can't horseback ride.

4.  Your freelance job is fake! And you are late for your fake freelance job. AND YOU DON'T SHOWER! Also you are a braying moron, who would want to be around you for 4 hours?

5.  Professional server by trade? I thought he was a dancer. And what does professional server mean? I get there are some servers that work in high end restaurants that make really good money and are very skilled at the art of serving but professional server could mean works at Applebee's.

6. A single 30 year old without children? Oh No! Speaking as a single 30 year old along with a lot of my friends, fuck off Whit, some of us are happy and single and don't have pathetic lives like you Whit.

7. What are you going to call former president Clinton. First of all, god that is so depressing now, secondly yeah, good question, that certainly isn't the question every single person on earth was asking.

8. Holy grail of inspiration? How were you inspired? You are planning on doing exactly what someone just taught you. And that was not a workout, there was an obese woman in her 70s right behind you that was doing better than you.

9. Poor buddy, he sounds and looks like he is on death's door. Like if you told me right now he had late stage COPD or congestive heart failure I would believe you.

10. No you don't know what horses are thinking. It's not like you don't what they are thinking, it's a fucking horse. Do speak horse Whit? No, you do not speak horse, no one speaks horse so no,  you don't know what they are thinking. She is so annoying.

11. Whit what is wrong with you? You had one kiss and planning a coffee meetup and you are "dating"? What is this, middle school? You are in your 30s! Hell I'm sleeping with one of my best friends and I wouldn't saying we are "dating". Why are you so immature about everything? Whit stopped all personal and emotional growth about midway through high school it seems.

Well, John M, you & I are finally on the same page. I would only add, re: your item 2, that good ol' sweaty, 400# Twit ain't gonna see no action in a lesbian clurb either.

[Ocean Chick]

Yeah, that whole whine about how hard it was to "take charge" of her parents' anniversary celebration.  Bitch, please!  I arranged a whole celebration for my parents for the 50th anniversary, consisting of a large party in our church hall with full dinner service, a power point slide show of their lives from childhood to grandparenthood - complete with narration, with invitations sent to friends and family from every part of their lives (we had about 160 people show up).  I also took care of their present from we 5 kids (a cruise through the Inner Passage in Alaska), with my aunt and uncle included - all of which was a complete surprise to them.  They didn't even know about her sister and BIL joining the trip until they got in line to board the ship, though we did tell them about the trip at the party.  This planning and execution took about a year and a half to pull off, what with having to give my siblings time to save money to pay for the trip.  And I worked full time the entire time.  And she whines about how tough it is to make a dinner reservation for two and to drive her mom to buy a wig while she works a part time job?  Grrrrrrrr.

[Dot]

35 minutes ago, AmyB said:

MBFFL page just posted that kissing clip with amanda and titles it friends... or lovers?  hahahah. 

Those of you who monitor Twit's FB page: what are her loyal sycophants saying about her newest love? (I bet they hate it.)

[John M]

You are being very generous about Whit working part time, as far as what has been documented on the show she allegedly works maybe 2 hours a week.

Actually I take that back, she is obviously supporting herself by being on the TV show so driving her mother to get a wig and set up the dinner for two IS HER JOB. And come on, Whit wasn't the one finding a place that would allow filming  in what looked to be an event space not a restaurant, some production assistant was. So basically the extent of Whit's involvement was bringing a plate to the table. I don't know how you handle all that stress Whit. 

[AZChristian]

Just took a quick look; didn't see one word about it.  Which probably means the comments were negative and were deleted.

[cynicat]

3 hours ago, John M said:

8. Holy grail of inspiration? How were you inspired? You are planning on doing exactly what someone just taught you. And that was not a workout, there was an obese woman in her 70s right behind you that was doing better than you.

 

I was waiting for someone to call this out.  She was inspired to steal someone's idea?  Then she said something to the effect of: "You can bet that Jiya won't have sticks!"  Hell no, because that would be stupid.
 

[tdanaher]

23 minutes ago, Dot said:

Well, John M, you & I are finally on the same page. I would only add, re: your item 2, that good ol' sweaty, 400# Twit ain't gonna see no action in a lesbian clurb either.

Wellllll, she might if she presented as a daddy butch, but as her preferred presentation of basically "slob femme," not so much.

[AmyB]

6 minutes ago, Dot said:

Those of you who monitor Twit's FB page: what are her loyal sycophants saying about her newest love? (I bet they hate it.)

There isn't really anything on Twit's fb page other than random comments on other posts. But it is mixed on the MBFFL page. Most seem to be talking about how scripted the show has become and if this is the direction the show is going they are out. But there are some saying whatever makes you happy, etc. 

On MRL show this morning, they are apparently going out to LA this week for the skinny taping. I found that interesting.  

[polandspring]

5 hours ago, Cherrio said:

I am not positive they showed a snippet of the BGDC from last week on this episode, maybe I imagined it.

But, my honest opinion as far as dance goes, Whitney although limited physically has much better form and lines than Jiya.

So, the dance off could be interesting if they are judging actual dance.

The scene where Whitney copies Jiya's arms over the head move, Whitney's form was good, Jiya wasn't even close.

You can always see a big difference between Whitney and Todd.  She has some technique, he looks gangly and awkward.

I generally think Jiya is the better dancer.  She moves more quickly, can do more moves, and uses more of her body, but I realize that's a matter of opinion.

4 hours ago, Nowhere said:

TLC must hate Whitney because this season is the worst about making her look ridiculous. I mean, it's pretty bad. She looks like a complete fool. First the pregnancy scare, then the boob massage with friends, then the Roy rejection, house party in drag, the dance off, the list goes on and none of it puts Whitney in good light. When this show started, I think she was meant to be someone to look up too for fat people. She even did some sort of seminar, remember? Now she's a joke and every season makes her look worse than the previous. 

She has so little going on in her life they have to manufacture 100% of the story lines on this show.  It would be nice if there was something organic.

[SunnyBeBe]

3 hours ago, goodbyeglittergirl said:

Just wanted to point out that this thread has highlighted the paradox of eating-while-fat. Eat something? "You're so gross. Do you know the calorie count? How many fat grams are in that?" Don't eat something, or specifically eat something like a salad or fruit? "Who are you kidding? Are you going to go pound a plate of pasta over your sink later?" It doesn't matter what Whitney might eat on camera - it will piss someone off. 

I was shocked she was able to horseback ride. I have a daughter really into horses and so we try to do a trail ride or something on vacations. I am in the low 200's and always have to be really careful to check and make sure the stable we want to visit will allow me to ride - most have really strict weight limits. My guess is that it was a really, really short walk around on the horse - just enough to film - and that was it.

Whitney's smooching partner in this ep is super cute. I enjoyed her.

As someone pointed out above, Whitney would never lose any of her BGDC members to Jiya's Trophy Wife class, because it's not an insubstantial commute from Charlotte to Greensboro. Even though Jiya's class is accessible to me, though, since I live in Charlotte - there is not a CHANCE I would take a class there. I don't enjoy public shaming and the idea that I would get yelled at in class for not getting low enough or doing something well enough is NOT my idea of a good time. No thanks. I will say from taking Whitney's class that while it was not the most challenging dance class, it was a very welcoming and supportive atmosphere.

I was bummed that Whitney wasn't in Charlotte this past weekend to do a class with The Fitness Marshall, who held 2 "cardio concerts" this weekend down here. I thought that would be a good fit for her and they have been on social media together before, so I sort of thought she might be around. 

Hey there.  I'm in Raleigh,  I was bummed that I wasn't aware of the scenes they filmed here.  I would like to see the filming, maybe get an intro and photo.

I thought Whit was brave to do the horse scene.  No doubt, she didn't want to do it, but, it was in the script.  AS was the the kiss.  NO WAY she liked it.  She appeared to look like she was having a painful procedure in the dentist office! lol  But,.....I get it.  

I don't think it's fair to diss her as being unworthy of a lesbian relationship because of her size.  Fat lesbians need love too.  And even though, I don't think she is a lesbian, if she was, I'm sure that some women would be attracted to her.  I don't understand the logic of concluding that no one is attracted to fat people.  They obviously are as they date, marry, mate etc., all the time.   And not all fat people smell bad either. That's a myth perpetuated by ......?  I don't know....I can't figure it out. lol  

LOVED Babs in that wig.  OMG.  She needs a colorist to fix her up.  She really did look so much better.  I thought that romantic anniversary dinner was AWESOME!  What a great couple.  They seem to be having a great time with the show.  I do think they REALLY want Whit to get fit though. 

[Ketzel]

16 minutes ago, Ocean Chick said:

Yeah, that whole whine about how hard it was to "take charge" of her parents' anniversary celebration.  Bitch, please!  I arranged a whole celebration for my parents for the 50th anniversary, consisting of a large party in our church hall with full dinner service, a power point slide show of their lives from childhood to grandparenthood - complete with narration, with invitations sent to friends and family from every part of their lives (we had about 160 people show up).  I also took care of their present from we 5 kids (a cruise through the Inner Passage in Alaska), with my aunt and uncle included - all of which was a complete surprise to them.  They didn't even know about her sister and BIL joining the trip until they got in line to board the ship, though we did tell them about the trip at the party.  This planning and execution took about a year and a half to pull off, what with having to give my siblings time to save money to pay for the trip.  And I worked full time the entire time.  And she whines about how tough it is to make a dinner reservation for two and to drive her mom to buy a wig while she works a part time job?  Grrrrrrrr.

I've noticed that Whitney does complain a lot about how much she has to do/how hard she has to work, when it seems obvious to anyone that, compared to a fairly typical early-thirties kind of lifestyle (with working and caring for a home and family and other obligations) her life is far from demanding. It occurred to me to wonder if this wasn't another not-so-apparent issue undermining her fabulosity.  I bet that just being alive in that massive body is a huge energy drain. Every step she walks, every time she has to lift her arms over her head, or bend from the waist or hold up her toothbrush for two minutes must feel like an enormous effort.  No wonder her housekeeping is so pitiful. How can you keep a clean home, with pets, when you can't kneel to the floor, or bend over to clean a litter box or carry a vacuum cleaner from one stair to the next, or do any number of activities I do without even thinking. *Ketzel bends to empty the dishwasher, opens all the overhead kitchen cabinets, and lifts and puts away the clean dishes and glassware without breaking anything, not even a sweat.*

She's not going to admit it outright, but it seems to me to come through in all the whining. It's  ha-a-a-a-a-a-ard to be morbidly obese.

[John M]

32 minutes ago, polandspring said:

She has so little going on in her life they have to manufacture 100% of the story lines on this show.  It would be nice if there was something organic.

This is the thing that gets me, my life is way more interesting than hers and it sure as hell isn't interesting enough to carry a TV show. I mean hell I even do the stuff manufactured for the show for real except it is more interesting. You know how I spent last friday and Saturday? Let's see, I left my legitimate job, met friends for happy hour, went to go see a friend's brand new house, met other friends for drinks at the gay clurb, hung out, laughed, had fun, had a few too many cocktails in part because our bartender was drunk which was funny as hell, spent the night at a friend's house for sexy time, woke up and met my mom for mimosas and brunch on a patio at a park, then went to the museum and then we went to a fun consignment store in my neighborhood that has a bunch of fun vintages pieces, my mom bought me a fun vintage I'm guessing 60s vase set. And get this, I am a single home owner in his 30s and I didn't whine about how terrible my life is once or make up a fake relationship with my good friend with whom I am actually having sex with.

That's like 4 episodes of MBFFL and my life is not fabulous, I guess because I don't weigh 400 pounds?

Grow up Whitney, congratulations on not achieving the normal life of a single 30-something but calling it fabulous while you cry about the relationship that was entirely made up in your head not working out.

Edited March 1, 2017 by John M

[John M]

25 minutes ago, Ketzel said:

I've noticed that Whitney does complain a lot about how much she has to do/how hard she has to work, when it seems obvious to anyone that, compared to a fairly typical early-thirties kind of lifestyle (with working and caring for a home and family and other obligations) her life is far from demanding. It occurred to me to wonder if this wasn't another not-so-apparent issue undermining her fabulosity.  I bet that just being alive in that massive body is a huge energy drain. Every step she walks, every time she has to lift her arms over her head, or bend from the waist or hold up her toothbrush for two minutes must feel like an enormous effort.  No wonder her housekeeping is so pitiful. How can you keep a clean home, with pets, when you can't kneel to the floor, or bend over to clean a litter box or carry a vacuum cleaner from one stair to the next, or do any number of activities I do without even thinking. *Ketzel bends to empty the dishwasher, opens all the overhead kitchen cabinets, and lifts and puts away the clean dishes and glassware without breaking anything, not even a sweat.*

She's not going to admit it outright, but it seems to me to come through in all the whining. It's  ha-a-a-a-a-a-ard to be morbidly obese.

That's the crux of the matter, isn't it? The entire premise of the show was supposed to be Whit is incredibly obese but look at how fun and amazing her life is once she accepted her body and didn't let her size hold her back from being herself or doing what she loves.

By now what this show seems to really be about is how much it sucks being Whit's size no matter how she wants to dress it up with fake storylines that mostly depict the normal life of a single 30 year old except worse and you know fake. Even her best friend is fake, he doesn't even live there, he is flown down for the show so I guess it looks like Whit has actual real live people to do normal things with instead of crying into a bowl of ice cream alone at home.

[MegD]

Does Twit not remember that she "organized" her parents' anniversary party last year? It was the whole cupcake inhaling, "I'm not showing this meal to Will, I'm so clever" arc.

[Dot]

I've been thinking about that fabulously funny comment someone made about it looking like Twit is phoning all her former h.s. pals in her drama class & asking (begging?) them to come on MBFFL.

Why are we assuming Amanda is REAL? Not one of us thinks Lennie is. Is Amanda her real name? Lennie's isn't.

Yeah, yeah, I know. Her hug with Tal. Banana bread reminescence with Twit. Those don't mean that Amanda isn't a hired actor, reading her lines from a script, just as most of us believe Lennie was. Considering all Twit's other h.s. friends, Amanda seems awfully polished & put together. (And a more proffesional actor.)

I love the fact that several of you are Greensboro/Charlotte locals & often ferret out details the rest of us could never find. How 'bout trying to get the skinny on Amanda? Maybe from a collection of h.s. yearbooks at the Greensboro main library?

[Dot]

17 minutes ago, MegD said:

Does Twit not remember that she "organized" her parents' anniversary party last year? It was the whole cupcake inhaling, "I'm not showing this meal to Will, I'm so clever" arc.

I think last year it was celebrating her parents' reaching a collective 140 years of life, i.e., both their 70 th birthdays.

[ClareWalks]

They did mention that Amanda was in drama club with them. It would not surprise me even a tiny bit that she was a paid actress, probably desperate to get a bit of exposure.

[Ocean Chick]

18 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I don't think it's fair to diss her as being unworthy of a lesbian relationship because of her size.  Fat lesbians need love too.  And even though, I don't think she is a lesbian, if she was, I'm sure that some women would be attracted to her.  I don't understand the logic of concluding that no one is attracted to fat people.  They obviously are as they date, marry, mate etc., all the time.   And not all fat people smell bad either. That's a myth perpetuated by ......?  I don't know....I can't figure it out. lol  

She's not "unworthy" of having whatever kind of relationship she wants due to her being fat.  I, myself, have known fat lesbians before, and they had plenty of lovers.  It's her personality and general slobbiness that would hinder any kind of real romantic relationship, unless she found someone who loves fat slobs who don't like to shower or clean the cat poo off the floor.  She's quite proud of not showering - says it often on her show.  And those types of people are few and far between.  Thankfully.  I should also think being with someone who demands to ALWAYS be the center of attention would get tiring after a while.

But yeah, she's not a lesbian.  She only plays one on tv.

Edited March 2, 2017 by Ocean Chick

[ClareWalks]

1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

And not all fat people smell bad either. That's a myth perpetuated by ......?  I don't know....I can't figure it out. lol  

People assume Whitney smells bad because she doesn't shower daily, smokes, sweats a lot, and lives in a house where cats shit everywhere - it ain't just her weight ;)

[SunnyBeBe]

I've never heard Whit say that she didn't shower daily.  The cat poop was on the floor once and wouldn't transfer to a person who walked through the room and cleaned it up.  I haven't seen her smoke on the show this season.  She does appear to sweat a lot.   I think that is said about a lot of people who are obese.  I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she doesn't suffer with body odor. 

Didn't Whit tell the horse farm lady that she weighed 380?  I thought she had dropped down in a previous episode when she weighed at the gym.  What was the weight she was then?

Edited March 1, 2017 by SunnyBeBe

[BigBernard]

21 hours ago, riverblue22 said:

 

ETA:  I can't believe how scared she is on that poor horse. 

How do you think the poor horse felt? ?

[John M]

8 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I've never heard Whit say that she didn't shower daily.

She has mentioned multiple times when she has appeared places, most notably the radio station a.k.a. her (fake) JOB that she hadn't showered.

[ClareWalks]

21 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I've never heard Whit say that she didn't shower daily.  The cat poop was on the floor once and wouldn't transfer to a person who walked through the room and cleaned it up.  I haven't seen her smoke on the show this season.

She frequently mentions she hasn't showered (as @John M said). She couldn't smell the cat poop and it was all over her house, so I assume she is used to the smell. Todd smelled it immediately. She has never smoked on the show but it is known that she does. 

 

22 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

idn't Whit tell the horse farm lady that she weighed 380?

She said 360.

[pbutler111]

Why, oh, WHY do they keep pushing this lesbian stuff?  If Whitney's a lesbian, then she should be a lesbian.  If she's not a lesbian, then she should stop with this shit already.  All of this stuff is so obviously contrived that it's painful.

[auntjess]

22 hours ago, aliya said:

I thought it was the name of the establishment. I kept looking for signs that said, "Clurb," but the sign said "Limelight" or something. Jeez. 

I've found the urban dictionary to be my constant friend. 
It also had AMA.

[John M]

2 minutes ago, pbutler111 said:

Why, oh, WHY do they keep pushing this lesbian stuff?  If Whitney's a lesbian, then she should be a lesbian.  If she's not a lesbian, then she should stop with this shit already.  All of this stuff is so obviously contrived that it's painful.

Right? It's actually kind of offensive. Has Whit ever mentioned having same sex attraction? She thinks because a gay person invited her to do something that it means they are trying to jump their bones? Is it scandalous that she kissed a girl? She has had such terrible luck with men she is just going to give women a try? That lesbians are automatically into big girls?

I am doubtful that this is going to end in anything but offensive stereotypes.

[pbutler111]

Just now, John M said:

Right? It's actually kind of offensive. Has Whit ever mentioned having same sex attraction? She thinks because a gay person invited her to do something that it means they are trying to jump their bones? Is it scandalous that she kissed a girl? She has had such terrible luck with men she is just going to give women a try? That lesbians are automatically into big girls?

I am doubtful that this is going to end in anything but offensive stereotypes.

I get the impression that she/the producers think it's titillating and will make people tune in.  Frankly, I don't enjoy watching any couple make out, but even more so when I know it's a totally fake setup; it insults my intelligence.

[M.F. Luder]

It's obvious Amanda was hired to be on the show and she and Whitney didn't just run into each other by coincidence. I don't even believe that they were classmates because Amanda looks at least 45. 

I hate how Whitney acts like a teenager when it comes to her parents' love life. She gets a kick out of making her dad uncomfortable talking about her love life (the episode where Babs walks in on her and Donna), but acts like her mom is being inappropriate when she talks about her dad liking blondes. Your parents have sex, Whitney, get over it! Be grateful that they're happy after so many years, most people are not that lucky!

I'm over the dance battle already. Neither Whitney nor Jiya are really that entertaining to watch. Whitney thinking that drum sticks are an amazing idea shows how lame she is as a choreographer. Reminds me of this: