S07.E03: Going Commando

[Giselle]

Well Erica better enjoy airing her bald cat now in a few years nobody is gonna wanna see Grandma Wrinkles.

[notnowimbusy]

I don't think Erika is as confident and self-assured as she pretends to be.  I imagine her life is a pretty lonely one, and Erika Jayne came out of a desire to be noticed.  She hired all her "crew", and pays them well to fawn all over her.   Her husband is a busy man, who sees her as the epitome of a trophy wife.  Her constant refrain of respect for Tom, really says he tells her what to do, how to do it, and more importantly sets what seems like strict rules of behavior when she is in his presence or with his friends.    She is expected to look a certain way, and I'm sure she never wears her "cunt" necklace when he's around.   I find her terribly sad.   She pays dearly for living that life. 

[breezy424]

Sorry Erika.  You state in your blog:  My knees were closed together from the moment I sat down, and my legs were covered with either my purse or a black napkin. I did not sit there on display, and I do not appreciate what was said about me.  That's not quite true.  I went back to look at the conversation.  There is a shot of Erika sitting with her knees together but there is nothing on her lap.  No purse.  No black napkin.  Your thighs are thin enough (heck, good for you), even with your knees together (and you obviously know this with your declaration of having a purse or napkin covering your legs) that there can be a 'display'. 

I don't think Erika displayed herself on purpose but Erika needs to recognize that this is what happened.  And that people are going to talk about it.  If you don't appreciate what was said then do a better job in choosing what to wear and what can happen with your choices.  I didn't get the impression that Dorit or her husband were slut shaming Erika.  I think it was more a case of 'what were you thinking'?  

I also think that LVP's so called humor can be quite biting at times but Erika chose the wrong moment to say something about it.  LVP's conversation with PKwas self deprecating.  Erika isn't as savvy as she thinks. 

Erika ends her blogs with 'See you next Tuesday'.  Is that coming from introvert Erika or Erika 'Jane'?  Same goes for her TH's.  She's quite different in her TH's when not with the other women than when she is with the other women. 

[WireWrap]

20 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

Sorry Erika.  You state in your blog:  My knees were closed together from the moment I sat down, and my legs were covered with either my purse or a black napkin. I did not sit there on display, and I do not appreciate what was said about me.  That's not quite true.  I went back to look at the conversation.  There is a shot of Erika sitting with her knees together but there is nothing on her lap.  No purse.  No black napkin.  Your thighs are thin enough (heck, good for you), even with your knees together (and you obviously know this with your declaration of having a purse or napkin covering your legs) that there can be a 'display'. 

I don't think Erika displayed herself on purpose but Erika needs to recognize that this is what happened.  And that people are going to talk about it.  If you don't appreciate what was said then do a better job in choosing what to wear and what can happen with your choices.  I didn't get the impression that Dorit or her husband were slut shaming Erika.  I think it was more a case of 'what were you thinking'?  

I also think that LVP's so called humor can be quite biting at times but Erika chose the wrong moment to say something about it.  LVP's conversation with PKwas self deprecating.  Erika isn't as savvy as she thinks. 

Erika ends her blogs with 'See you next Tuesday'.  Is that coming from introvert Erika or Erika 'Jane'?  Same goes for her TH's.  She's quite different in her TH's when not with the other women than when she is with the other women. 

My guess is that she and her "glam squad" have practiced what she says in her TH before it is filmed. And, I am sure they are there with her as the THs are filmed, laughing at her quips, nodding their collective heads in agreement/encouragement. But, without her paid cheer squad, she falls flat because she really isn't all that smart/knowledgeable about much and once again, she has no sense of humor at all. Erika may claim she is just being "guarded" around the others, I say she just isn't smart or quick enough and knows it.

[WireWrap]

5 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

Yeah, I completely did not see flashing, and see nothing but slut shaming. Erika's (why not spell it with a C like Lucci?) sense of humor sucks (still think LVP and perv were haughty in declaring that shit "ohh ho ha, it's British, dahling!"). But Lisa was totally onto the no panties thing and completely humiliated a "friend" by openly showing everyone and laughing in a freaking restaurant. Who DOES that? The gal playing to the camera and being above everyone ... that's who.  

I normally really like Lisa, but now second guess if her friend is PK and whatever woman he snags. If Dorit is canned she should know that Lisa will toss her to the curb in a heartbeat in order to stay in the company of the wealthy man. Look at Lisa and Yo. Despite Yolanda claiming that Mohammed was pissed, I'm will to bet that they're back in their happy social circle (minus Yolanda). $$$ is everything.

Serious question, Who slut shammed Erika? I must have missed something because I didn't see anyone shame her let alone slut shame her. Also, it was Erika that announced at the table to everyone that she wasn't wearing any underwear, not Lisa. And Lisa didn't reach down, grab Erika's knees pushing them apart telling the others to have a look. So, I am not sure what I missed.

Lisa/Ken were friends with PK well before he married Dorit, the same holds true with Mohammed. The only one that claimed their friendship was over was Yolanda, Mohammed never made that claim and Lisa only said that the friendship had hit a bump. And Yes, Lisa/Ken and Mohammed/Shiva are good friends again, Yolanda was never part of that friendship to begin with, never.

[zoeysmom]

5 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

Yeah, I completely did not see flashing, and see nothing but slut shaming. Erika's (why not spell it with a C like Lucci?) sense of humor sucks (still think LVP and perv were haughty in declaring that shit "ohh ho ha, it's British, dahling!"). But Lisa was totally onto the no panties thing and completely humiliated a "friend" by openly showing everyone and laughing in a freaking restaurant. Who DOES that? The gal playing to the camera and being above everyone ... that's who.  

I normally really like Lisa, but now second guess if her friend is PK and whatever woman he snags. If Dorit is canned she should know that Lisa will toss her to the curb in a heartbeat in order to stay in the company of the wealthy man. Look at Lisa and Yo. Despite Yolanda claiming that Mohammed was pissed, I'm will to bet that they're back in their happy social circle (minus Yolanda). $$$ is everything.

Erika opened the door by making the announcement she was panty-less.  LVP's hand went to Erika's skirt before she said she was without panties-Erika seemed pretty confident and went onto the party.  Erika was making her comments about Brits to hosts who were Brits, on their way to a party with the British press.  I don't think LVP would have done it had she known in advance there was a side show going on for PK.

Mohamed, Ken and LVP were friends for years.  Mohamed and Yolanda had a fairly short term marriage, and I do believe, LVP and Ken were living in London for all if not most of it. Yolanda only thought of LVP as Mohamed's friend.  I always thought Mohamed was placating  Yolanda by not speaking to Ken and LVP for a short period of time.  Yolanda and LVP were never close friends and Yolanda tried early on to alienate even Joyce from LVP-before Puerto Rico.  Mohamed is still friends with David Foster, as he was pre-Yolanda/Foster.  I don't think LVP and Ken lack for wealthy friends.

[Giselle]

I don't think there was any slut shaming at all either. If you felt it important to announce in mixed company that you aren't wearing any underwear you have no say about how they respond. Whether it's shaming, laughing, pitying, or been there done that, well. you got a response just maybe not the one you were fishing for. 

Miss. Erica isn't all that and deep down she knows it and knows that others do too regardless of her alter ego.

Edited December 24, 2016 by Giselle

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, breezy424 said:

Sorry Erika.  You state in your blog:  My knees were closed together from the moment I sat down, and my legs were covered with either my purse or a black napkin. I did not sit there on display, and I do not appreciate what was said about me.  That's not quite true.  I went back to look at the conversation.  There is a shot of Erika sitting with her knees together but there is nothing on her lap.  No purse.  No black napkin.  Your thighs are thin enough (heck, good for you), even with your knees together (and you obviously know this with your declaration of having a purse or napkin covering your legs) that there can be a 'display'. 

I don't think Erika displayed herself on purpose but Erika needs to recognize that this is what happened.  And that people are going to talk about it.  If you don't appreciate what was said then do a better job in choosing what to wear and what can happen with your choices.  I didn't get the impression that Dorit or her husband were slut shaming Erika.  I think it was more a case of 'what were you thinking'?  

I also think that LVP's so called humor can be quite biting at times but Erika chose the wrong moment to say something about it.  LVP's conversation with PKwas self deprecating.  Erika isn't as savvy as she thinks. 

Erika ends her blogs with 'See you next Tuesday'.  Is that coming from introvert Erika or Erika 'Jane'?  Same goes for her TH's.  She's quite different in her TH's when not with the other women than when she is with the other women. 

Not surprising that Erika doesn't get when you sit down, especially in sky high heels, there is a tunnel created.  I believe that is why PK said, he had the view prior to Erika making the comment.  I get that after seeing the show, and what followed that Erika is defensive, but I think she should have lived by her motto-"How many fucks do I give, zero."  When Erika gets caught, she gets overly defensive and mean and denies.

[zoeysmom]

33 minutes ago, Giselle said:

I don't think there was any slut shaming at all either. If you felt it important to announce in mixed company that you aren't wearing any underwear you have no say about how they respond. Whether it's shaming, laughing, pitying, or been there done that, well. you got a response just maybe not the one you were fishing for. 

Miss. Erica isn't all that and deep down she knows it and knows that others do too regardless of her alter ego.

I believe strategically Erika made a mistake by being mean to LVP and dismissive of Kyle, with her Yolanda alliance.  Kyle will always give her a chance and I think that will be her ticket to mainstream with the group.  Kyle isn't really all that taken with Erika's act, but she will always be polite-I just don't see her taking her daughters of Mauricio to any of the Erika Jayne performances.  Kyle knows the arts and entertainers and Erika is just so D List.  And Kyle is friends with Kris Jenner and the Kardashians.

Ultimately I think Erika will be cool with Kyle and LVP and of course girl crush Eileen.  In spite of Erika claiming to be removed because people need to earn her friendship, I think she just fears rejection.  Big houses, trying to be a 45 year old pop star, glam squads and 78 year old husbands give you sense of security.  To me, Erika will have to let loose a little bit of her airs, and realize Kyle, LVP have been around far wealthier and well known people for most of their lives.    

[lunastartron]

Oh, boy, this premise being promoted by Rinna, Eileen, and Erika that Dorit and PK - let alone Lisa - slut shamed and/or "objectified" anyone is some bullshit. If I'm following the argumentation of that trio clearly, Erika is free to literally shout misogynistic epithets at other women when she objects to their conduct (please refer to her screaming "cunt" sans irony about Kathryn Edwards) and is some sort of feminist heroine because she tricked so well and, by her own proclamation, "is" so "good" at doing "what every woman does" to procure expensive jewelry that she gets to use joint checking to bankroll writhing around in some sort of chimerical gay-male-authored, pussy-grabbing realization of women's lib.

Erika is just an angry, uncouth thug who seems to rely on men in all arenas of life to tell her what to favor, how to proceed, which choices to make, which oversize tee shirts are defensible simply because they have a fancy Italian label inside them.

Yet Paul is a sexual deviant because he (gasp!) confirmed that he could, in fact, visually discern that Erika's announcement about not wearing underwear was true. By Rinna's own standards of whether or not her colleagues are permitted to broach the subject of spouses, I hope this means that Dorit gets a free glass throw and throat grab. And that she humiliates the mess out of LR later in the season.

[Locutus]

I hope Erika had the sense to pull down on the dress when she sat down. Otherwise she could have left Snatch Drippings all over the place.

[TattleTeeny]

21 hours ago, TheFinalRose said:

The reason I wouldn't do it is that at 15 girls/boys don't necessarily know what they can't handle. Lisar put her girl in a position of having to fend for herself in a strange city without a familiar adult at hand.  Being on your own in a city like NYC might be ok, and they might not come to any physical harm, but they could encounter situations that cause them anxiety without an adult around to help them. They could get sick, get their iphone stolen or pickpocketed, get their room broken into, the older sister could ditch the younger one or leave her on her own. Or even little things like getting ripped off by a cab or uber driver or getting lost, not to mention if there were some real scary situation happen when you couldn't get back to them. All those things can cause unnecessary anxiety for a 15-year-old and it's not necessary when Lisar as the parent can just say, "sorry you don't like it but you're coming to QVC with me anyway." There's a reason Lisar says she was worried about it and that is that parental instinct that you know also that 15-year-olds (and 18-year-olds) don't know what they don't know.  Just think how it would sound if a high school planned a trip to the city for a group of 15-year-olds for two nights with zero chaperones. It wouldn't happen.

I agree about the class-trip analogy but this isn't a class trip, for which the school would be legally responsible for other people's kids. And every one of those things could happen to people of any age anywhere, even at home. And, OK, I admit to being almost completely unsupervised from 15 onward (and went on weekends without my parents to check out colleges in Philly and NY), but no one knows what they don't know or can't handle until they do know and/or try to handle it (I didn't and now I do; yes, it caused anxiety along the way but "anxiety" isn't necessarily harmful). Again, I can't help but think of all the teenagers from all over the country who leave home at 17 or 18 to attend college in NY unchaperoned; their parents surely don't move with them into their apartments/dorms and escort them around the city. 

And, hey--some people seem to believe that these girls are too sheltered and/or spoiled! Maybe this is exactly what they need to become independent take-charge grownup ladies, haha! Eh, maybe not. 

Edited December 24, 2016 by TattleTeeny

[walnutqueen]

10 hours ago, Giselle said:

Well Erica better enjoy airing her bald cat now in a few years nobody is gonna wanna see Grandma Wrinkles.

"Grandma Wrinkles".  You SLAY me, G!

[WireWrap]

14 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

I agree about the class-trip analogy but this isn't a class trip, for which the school would be legally responsible for other people's kids. And every one of those things could happen to people of any age anywhere, even at home. And, OK, I admit to being almost completely unsupervised from 15 onward (and went on weekends without my parents to check out colleges in Philly and NY), but no one knows what they don't know or can't handle until they do know and/or try to handle it (I didn't and now I do; yes, it caused anxiety along the way but "anxiety" isn't necessarily harmful). Again, I can't help but think of all the teenagers from all over the country who leave home at 17 or 18 to attend college in NY unchaperoned; their parents surely don't move with them into their apartments/dorms and escort them around the city. 
 

I think it was the way it was presented, like it was some spur of the moment decision by Rinna and her daughters, not something she/they planned out and talked about before flying to NY. Also, this was not the first time she/the girls have been in NY, Rinna is there a few times each year, so they are familiar with the city.

[TattleTeeny]

Yeah, I was wondering if it's not even as rare a scenario as it seemed to be at a glance.

[ladle]

5 hours ago, Locutus said:

I hope Erika had the sense to pull down on the dress when she sat down. Otherwise she could have left Snatch Drippings all over the place.

On the plus side, "Snatch Drippings" would be a great title for her next disco single.

[Giselle]

5 hours ago, Locutus said:

I hope Erika had the sense to pull down on the dress when she sat down. Otherwise she could have left Snatch Drippings all over the place.

Even if she did Eileen and Rinna would blame PK. He made her do it. Then if he acted disgusted it would be slut shaming, if he laughed it would be ridicule, if he didn't say anything they would say it proved his demeaning indifference to Erica. PK...Such a hater that one!  

Rolling my eyes!

[Giselle]

The Real Housewives, really anyone who is interested in designer goods should read the book Deluxe: How Luxury Lost Its Luster by Dana Thomas. It pulls the curtain back on all those mass produced, logo emblazoned, designer "high end" goods made in third world factories and finished (handles put on, small touches) in the "designers" country so a Fendi or Prada can say "made in Italy". How once great companies who prided themselves on quality products now after being sold to conglomerates stoop to new lows  to make money (Coach for one). How in the public has drunk the koolaid and rush off to outlet malls and the rich in their own way do the the same just to sport what a company has told them is chic. Selling you on the idea by trading on what real luxury once meant.

While I've loved  Haute Couture from afar, I've never liked the aesthetics of logos nor the practice slapping a name on something without backbone this book made me even more derisive of what has become the norm .

Edited December 24, 2016 by Giselle

[zoeysmom]

41 minutes ago, Giselle said:

The Real Housewives, really anyone who is interested in designer goods should read the book Deluxe: How Luxury Lost Its Luster by Dana Thomas. It pulls the curtain back on all those mass produced, logo emblazoned, designer "high end" goods made in third world factories and finished (handles put on, small touches) in the "designers" country so a Fendi or Prada can say "made in Italy". How once great companies who prided themselves on quality products now after being sold to conglomerates stoop to new lows  to make money (Coach for one). How in the public has drunk the koolaid and rush off to outlet malls and the rich in their own way do the the same just to sport what a company has told them is chic. Selling you on the idea by trading on what real luxury once meant.

While I've loved  Haute Couture from afar, I've never liked the aesthetics of logos nor the practice slapping a name on something without backbone this book made me even more derisive of what has become the norm .

I don't get handbags.  I was on the Hermes website, and I just don't get $3k and up for a purse. More interesting was the $1,200.00 liner you can buy, that fits in your purse and prevents any possible make up malfunctions.  To think, I use to call it a cosmetic bag, and they ran under $25.00. Bless those who want thee logo du jour, but to me there are just too many designers with $1,000.00 purses.  I can say the same for shoes.  Everyone seems to have some version of shoes with spikes. . . talk about an impractical trend.

[TattleTeeny]

I beat the holy hell out of my bags, man. I am not paying more than $50--and that's usually for some kind of military-issue messenger bag, haha! I am very classy. I do have an obviously fake Gucci doctor-bag-shaped one though, and I love how the faux-luxury looks with jeans and T-shirts!

[ElDosEquis]

3 hours ago, ladle said:

On the plus side, "Snatch Drippings" would be a great title for her next disco single.

Oh, oh....

Snatch DrippingZ

I go commando, doncha stare

I get the 'drippingz' when I go bare

my underwear and dress don't match

Cos I am showing my nekkid snatch.

But without a dress, I'd be a stripper.

But I can't, my snatch is a dripper.

Snatch drippingz, Dripping snatch

The curtains and rug, they don't match.

Airing it out, Don't you stare

No snatch drippingz in HER hair.....

[kokapetl]

13 hours ago, breezy424 said:

I went back to look at the conversation.  There is a shot of Erika sitting with her knees together but there is nothing on her lap.  No purse.  No black napkin.  Your thighs are thin enough (heck, good for you), even with your knees together (and you obviously know this with your declaration of having a purse or napkin covering your legs) that there can be a 'display'. 

I don't think she's thin enough for it to be a problem. Erika's knees were clamped together when she first sat down, then she had the napkin. Her husband wouldn't tolerate her flashing a heterosexual man, so I don't think she did.  

[ElDosEquis]

3 hours ago, Giselle said:

Even if she did Eileen and Rinna would blame PK. He made her do it. Then if he acted disgusted it would be slut shaming, if he laughed it would be ridicule, if he didn't say anything they would say it proved his demeaning indifference to Erica. PK...Such a hater that one!  

Rolling my eyes!

I get the feeling that if no one had mentioned #pussygape that Erica would had accosted Cool Ranch about PK taking a gander at the 'goose'?

EJ cannot stand to be marginalized or ignored....she would have made sure everyone knew she didn't have on any underwear.

----------

Her horseshit line about 'being an introvert' is just a reason to justify her fucking split personalit(ies).

I wonder which one decided against panties that day?

[zoeysmom]

19 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

I don't think she's thin enough for it to be a problem. Erika's knees were clamped together when she first sat down, then she had the napkin. Her husband wouldn't tolerate her flashing a heterosexual man, so I don't think she did.  

Erika gets buck naked in front of the camera crew and productions, I doubt all the men are gay that are present.  They are spray tanning her snatch.  My impression of Erika, is in spite of her claiming to have two personalities, they share a body.  It would be like a porn star saying, when I am not filming, I don't behave that way.  Probably true, but she or he still performs the acts.  So performing naked in front of some men seems like an odd boundary to draw.  Most likely it was inadvertent on Erika's part, and but not for the announcement of no panties, PK probably would not have mentioned it.  I don't think it matters if you flash someone, whether they are gay or straight, male or female.  it is just one of those oops moments.

Years ago Kristen Taekman was with Sonja getting a spray tan and said her husband was not happy she got naked in front of the crew.   

[WireWrap]

32 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

I don't think she's thin enough for it to be a problem. Erika's knees were clamped together when she first sat down, then she had the napkin. Her husband wouldn't tolerate her flashing a heterosexual man, so I don't think she did.  

I don't think Erika exposed herself intentionally and no one has claimed she did. It was an accident, a foreseeable one but an still an accident. I can understand her embarrassment in finding out that she did flash the others but getting angry at them for what happened (accidental or not) is ridiculous. She chose to wear a very, very short dress, 1 that barely covered her butt, without underwear and she had to have realized that exposing herself was a strong possibility, very strong. Yet, she chose to wear it and risk exposing herself. Get over yourself Erika or quit doing stuff like this to keep the cameras and the conversation on you. LOL

[RedheadZombie]

I'm so confused about commando-gate.  I got the definite impression that is was LVP's hand going up Erika'a skirt that exposed her.  Lisa immediately knew there was no underwear, even before the words came out of Erika's mouth.  Then of course Erika made the crack about not going there if you didn't want to know. To me, that's how it played out. I genuinely think this is what happened.  I also read this version on other sites, where LVP can do wrong  

Please LVP fans, don't come at me en masse with paragraph long opinions (as fact) that LVP could not, would not, did not do anything of the sort.  It's Christmas - be kind to me. 

[ElDosEquis]

26 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

• Erika gets buck naked in front of the camera crew and productions, I doubt all the men are gay that are present.  They are spray tanning her snatch.  My impression of Erika, is in spite of her claiming to have two personalities, they share a body.  It would be like a porn star saying, when I am not filming, I don't behave that way.  Probably true, but she or he still performs the acts. Most likely it was inadvertent on Erika's part, and but not for the announcement of no panties, PK probably would not have mentioned it. 

I don't think it matters if you flash someone, whether they are gay or straight, male or female.  it is just one of those oops moments.

Years ago Kristen Taekman was with Sonja getting a spray tan and said her husband was not happy she got naked in front of the crew.   

Great analogy!

Erica Joon uses her split personality as a way to shrug off any critique of her not-so-talented other self?  It's just an excuse for dumb behavior.

[EmeraldGirl]

Every time I see EJ I think about Magic Johnson's son. 

I'm not a handbag person either, but I don't need to parade in anywhere with mine.  I'm sure 90% of it is the competition of who shows up with the most expensive bag. Just like everything else - clothes, shoes, jewelry, cosmetic procedures. Some stuff is fun and it's nice to look your best, but this world is dog eat dog (and ironically they love dogs).  Always kind of liked that Eileen was not up on her accessories and immediately got called out. She works - she didn't much care. 

[zoeysmom]

1 minute ago, RedheadZombie said:

I'm so confused about commando-gate.  I got the definite impression that is was LVP's hand going up Erika'a skirt that exposed her.  Lisa immediately knew there was no underwear, even before the words came out of Erika's mouth.  Then of course Erika made the crack about not going there if you didn't want to know. To me, that's how it played out. I genuinely think this is what happened.  I also read this version on other sites, where LVP can do wrong  

Please LVP fans, don't come at me en masse with paragraph long opinions (as fact) that LVP could not, would not, did not do anything of the sort.  It's Christmas - be kind to me. 

PK said he saw Erika's parts before she mentioned she wasn't wearing underwear.

For a person to determine  she had no underwear on they would have to run their hand into her crotch or where a thong strap would be.  I don't think anyone is claiming LVP did such a thing.  All I saw from the video is LVP's hand was between the bottom of Erika's dress and the napkin and Erika mentioned she had none.  I don't believe LVP planned to keep mining for undies-I think it was a prank.

I think common sense dictates she wasn't going to pants Erika on camera before a fancy party.  At least without some resistance.

Your thinking LVP knew is akin to someone thinking Erika intentionally flashed.  Unless they express their thought or intent at the time-it is all speculation.

[nexxie]

imo Erika has two fake personnas, one as carefully orchestrated as the other - let's see the real person!

[zoeysmom]

Since someone mentioned Kyle daughter was "super ugly" her is a holiday photo of Kyle and her daughters in some designer's duds:

 

Not an ugly one in the litter.  https://www.instagram.com/p/BOX2brtBbUy/

Edited December 24, 2016 by zoeysmom

[ElDosEquis]

5 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

PK said he saw Erika's parts before she mentioned she wasn't wearing underwear.

For a person to determine  she had no underwear on they would have to run their hand into her crotch or where a thong strap would be.  I don't think anyone is claiming LVP did such a thing.  All I saw from the video is LVP's hand was between the bottom of Erika's dress and the napkin and Erika mentioned she had none.  I don't believe LVP planned to keep mining for undies-I think it was a prank.

I think common sense dictates she wasn't going to pants Erika on camera before a fancy party.  At least without some resistance.

Your thinking LVP knew is akin to someone thinking Erika intentionally flashed.  Unless they express their thought or intent at the time-it is all speculation.

When I watched the rerun of the epi, I was watching how EJ sat down and it looked like just as her ass hit the cushions?

I thought I saw her knees come apart.

She may not have deliberately flashed PK, but if you walked out of the house w/o panties on and didn't take into consideration that you may flash someone?

No biggie, nothing to see because, "If you can't touch, it ain't much".

[nexxie]

There's such a whiff of desperation (and possibly Summer's Eve) when women flash their lady bits to get attention - and there's no way Erika didn't think somebody might get a peek in that getup.

[kokapetl]

34 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Since someone mentioned Kyle daughter was "super ugly" her is a holiday photo of Kyle and her daughters in some designer's duds:

 

Not an ugly one in the litter.  https://www.instagram.com/p/BOX2brtBbUy/

The older daughters are all standing a fair bit back from the camera. 

All the older daughters are standing well back from the camera. I can't imagine why. I'd hesitate to call them beautiful. I don't think Lisar's Rinettes are either.  

Edited December 24, 2016 by Kokapetl

[nexxie]

imo all of Kyle's girls are attractive, each in their own ways - interesting mix of genetic material. But, more importantly, they all seem grounded and loving toward each other - no easy feat, considering Kyle's upbringing!

[zoeysmom]

Just now, nexxie said:

imo all of Kyle's girls are attractive, each in their own ways - interesting mix of genetic material. But, more importantly, they all seem grounded and loving toward each other - no easy feat, considering Kyle's upbringing!

Always remember Kyle's grandma also lived with them.  So they had another parental figure in the home.  It is interesting to see them change over the years.  The girls all look better when they smile.

 

16 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

The older daughters are all standing a fair bit back from the camera. 

All the older daughters are standing well back from the camera. I can't imagine why. I'd hesitate to call them beautiful. 

Because of Gigi and her beauty it is hard to match that standard but as far as RH kids across the board, I think they look just fine.   

[kokapetl]

Just now, zoeysmom said:

Always remember Kyle's grandma also lived with them.  So they had another parental figure in the home.  It is interesting to see them change over the years.  The girls all look better when they smile.

 

Because of Gigi and her beauty it is hard to match that standard but as far as RH kids across the board, I think they look just fine.   

Yeah, they're definitely not in the same class as the Giudice kids. 

[zoeysmom]

1 minute ago, Kokapetl said:

Yeah, they're definitely not in the same class as the Giudice kids. 

Can you get the whole photo to come up?  It is interesting they are wearing "mumus" as Ken would call them.  Taking after mom.

[biakbiak]

49 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Can you get the whole photo to come up?  It is interesting they are wearing "mumus" as Ken would call them.  Taking after mom.

Well given that Kyle most likely picked them out its not notable. I think the pattern is ugly , paricularly with them all wearing them. Porta got lucky there wasn't one in her size.

[PhilMarlowe2]

15 hours ago, Giselle said:

I don't think there was any slut shaming at all either. If you felt it important to announce in mixed company that you aren't wearing any underwear you have no say about how they respond. Whether it's shaming, laughing, pitying, or been there done that, well. you got a response just maybe not the one you were fishing for. 

Miss. Erica isn't all that and deep down she knows it and knows that others do too regardless of her alter ego.

I keep seeing reference to Erika "announcing" that she wasn't wearing panties as if she were making a purposeful production out of it, but I don't think this is exactly a fair description of what happened. LVP literally asked Erika if she had panties for Kyle to borrow - while running her hand up Erika's dress! It was then that Erika responded to LVP that she wasn't wearing any panties. To me, this is hardly an attention-seeking announcement, but more her reacting to LVP's direct line of questioning (and the fact that LVP may have been in jeopardy of touching her bare privates!)...

Edited December 24, 2016 by PhilMarlowe2

[RedheadZombie]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Since someone mentioned Kyle daughter was "super ugly" her is a holiday photo of Kyle and her daughters in some designer's duds:

 

Not an ugly one in the litter.  https://www.instagram.com/p/BOX2brtBbUy/

They're all lovely.  Love their dark hair.  I usually think Portia is Mauricio's mini-me, but she looks just like Kyle here. Sophia looks like she's square-jawed, which is always striking.  Alexia looks very much like Kyle here.  

[Baltimore Betty]

3 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

They're all lovely.  Love their dark hair.  I usually think Portia is Mauricio's mini-me, but she looks just like Kyle here. Sophia looks like she's square-jawed, which is always striking.  Alexia looks very much like Kyle here.  

That photo is soo Kardashian-esque, lol. 
They really are a beautiful family, Portia looks adorable, Sophia, (the one that was in NYC with Kyle) sort of reminds me of Dorinda's daughter.

[crgirl412]

On 12/23/2016 at 5:24 PM, ElDosEquis said:

VVVAginAAA

It's my pussy, my rules

gawk at it , you simple fools

It's the same thing in my sister's pants

So stare, if you have the chance.

My vagina, my rules 

My crotch, unbridled, on display

It's all mine, not tucked away

Introverted extrovert

I have no humor, am very curt.

And stupid sayings on my shirts!

My vagina, my rulllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

(It needs to be autotuned with a electro musical score that sounds like a 13 year old on a cheap CASIO keyboard.)

This will be debuted on WWHL, right????

[ElDosEquis]

44 minutes ago, crgirl412 said:

This will be debuted on WWHL, right????

My dream is to have it arranged and produced by Davey Foster, first?

[crgirl412]

10 minutes ago, ElDosEquis said:

My dream is to have it arranged and produced by Davey Foster, first?

LOL!! 

He may do it just to piss Yo off since she may not want him involved in anything she's involved in- I'm sure she'll pop up this season as the picture of health.   

[Former Nun]

4 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Can you get the whole photo to come up? 

I got it by clicking on Kyle's name in the upper left corner.  Then...you can click on that particular photo to see it better.

[WireWrap]

4 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Can you get the whole photo to come up?  It is interesting they are wearing "mumus" as Ken would call them.  Taking after mom.

If you click on Kyle's name at the top of the photo her IG account pops up with that photo top right. Although it is the same pattern/material, they are not all Mumus but different styles, top/dress.

3 hours ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

I keep seeing reference to Erika "announcing" that she wasn't wearing panties as if she were making a purposeful production out of it, but I don't think this is exactly a fair description of what happened. LVP literally asked Erika if she had panties for Kyle to borrow - while running her hand up Erika's dress! It was then that Erika responded to LVP that she wasn't wearing any panties. To me, this is hardly an attention-seeking announcement, but more her reacting to LVP's direct line of questioning (and the fact that LVP may have been in jeopardy of touching her bare privates!)...

Even Erika isn't claiming that Lisa ran her hands up the inside of her thigh. Lisa grabbed the bottom/hem of the dress on her side, not in the middle, as Erika was sitting beside Lisa. Erika is playing it up in her TH now that she, Eileen and Rinna have gotten their pea sized brains together.

[PhilMarlowe2]

1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

Even Erika isn't claiming that Lisa ran her hands up the inside of her thigh. Lisa grabbed the bottom/hem of the dress on her side, not in the middle, as Erika was sitting beside Lisa. Erika is playing it up in her TH now that she, Eileen and Rinna have gotten their pea sized brains together.

And yet my original point still stands that Erika did not just up and announce that she wasn't wearing panties for no reason - it was in direct response to LVP's words and actions.

[biakbiak]

10 minutes ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

And yet my original point still stands that Erika did not just up and announce that she wasn't wearing panties for no reason - it was in direct response to LVP's words and actions.

A simple I don't have an extra pair would have suuficed.

[Bronzedog]

Hey!  I know it's Christmas Eve and all, but, is anyone in the D.C. Area driving around with an extra pair of panties that can meet me at the IHOP?  Thanks!