Weekend at Cory's

[GreatKazu]

The dads get together at Cory's home for the weekend:

http://www.mtv.com/news/2960392/teen-mom-2-weekend-at-corey-sneak-peek/

[CofCinci]

Of course they plan time to do guy things and don't invite Tyler.

[SPLAIN]

Tyler is too busy rolling joints for Cate and himself. Then, when she knocks out for the night, he will then check out porn sites.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

I am ridiculously excited about this. I may need a life.

Also, it's clear to me that one of these things is not like the other.....Nathan. I'm interested to see his dynamic with the other dads who are actually good dads. But really, Tyler, when people would rather invite Nathan than you, you may want to rethink some things....

[GreatKazu]

3 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

I am ridiculously excited about this. I may need a life.

Also, it's clear to me that one of these things is not like the other.....Nathan. I'm interested to see his dynamic with the other dads who are actually good dads. But really, Tyler, when people would rather invite Nathan than you, you may want to rethink some things....

I know the feeling. For so long we have heard and watch the girls' side of things. I really want to watch the interaction here and I want to watch these guys without the girls around. Usually their screen time has to do with what is going on with the girls' lives. 

Tyler gets way too much screen time. We do not need to hear more of his psycho-babble. 

[Brooklynista]

So Tyler wasn't invited to Corey's for gruff manly fun?

[GreatKazu]

4 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

So Tyler wasn't invited to Corey's for gruff manly fun?

Hee hee.  Cate wouldn't let him go.

Now, if they all met in New Orleans, Tyler would have gone, but would have made sure to have taken some "me time". 

[VioletNevermind]

I have to say, this is actually a nice little hour of television.  These are some of the most coherent conversations I've ever heard in all my years of watching the Teen Mom franchise (I do realize that that's a low bar).  Each of the guys are pretty endearing, with the exception of Nathan, who will never not come off like a wife-beating, roidhead asshole to me (I can't get those scenes of him talking so horribly to that poor baby out of my head).  Gary is gamely playing his role of the lovably schmucky guy in any group of male friends.  Corey seems solid as a rock, as usual.  I loved what he said about having no plans to expose his latest baby to the Teen Mom cameras.  Amen to that.  We need more of the guys on this show (except Tyler).

I hardly said anything negative.  I must be coming down with something!

Edited December 13, 2016 by SuzyLee

[mamadrama]

I truly enjoyed this. I couldn't stand Jo in 16 & Pregnant but he has grown on me and I prefer him to Kail. And man, I love me some Cory. I thought the visitation/custody conversation in the truck was really interesting and endearing. The guys managed to have a conversation about how they were feeling without actually trashing the girls. Good for them. 

[GreatKazu]

So glad Adam was not there. He would have taken every opportunity to trash Chelsea. 

This was laid back and pleasant to watch. 

I need more of this from Teen Mom. Less girls more guys. 

[mamadrama]

I was kind of disappointed not to see Ryan. I was really interested to see how he interacted around other people over an extended period of time. And are we meant to believe that he, Tyler, and Adam couldn't show up because of the weather, or were they just not invited?

[ghoulina]

I think most everyone was invited, but a lot of people had trouble getting in because of the floods. 

I mostly enjoyed the show. I love Corey, and Gary and Jo have definitely stepped up in my estimation over the years. Nathan, I could have done without. He was just there to show off his muscles and crack jokes at everyone's expense. I cannot stand him. IMO, he's not in the same league as the other dads. These guys have been here from day one. They were just average Joes, who made some poor choices in their younger years. Nathan was a grown man (who, I believe already had some kid he didn't see) when he started to hitch his wagon to the already well-known Jenelle. Keep his ass off my TV. 

You know who I really would have loved to see? Germy. I love when he and Corey get along. 

[Evie]

I liked it too aside from Nathan. Hate him. Every time something interesting was mentioned Nathan brought things to a halt whining about Janelle. It felt like the other guys were internally rolling their eyes right along with me. Jo was pretty much Jo. It was nice seeing Corey and Gary's sense of humor. 

[jumper sage]

I really liked it too.  Corey is the best and really like Jo too.  loved how he and Kail are getting along and coparenting.  Corey had a tough road with Leah.  He seems like a regular hard working person who got caught up in her generations of trash-like living.  I have to say I like Gary.

[gunderda]

I thought Nathan was an odd choice to include but I suppose he is part of the teen-mom dad crowd now..... maybe?

Or maybe so many of the others backed out that Nathan was a last minute inclusion. I think the others just plain backed out.  If those 3 got there then I think you can't blame the weather on the others not making it. 

When Jo showed his Teen Mom audition video I was like woaaaahhhhhh grown up Isaac!

[swishandflick]

My favorite line was Jo asking Gary if he "has a journal he writes in every night with things he wants to talk about the next day." LOL. Gary talked a lot, but it was endearing. I think Gary is the real deal "good guy" and it's not just for the cameras.

Corey is pretty much as expected, a solid dude. I thought Jo was a bit quiet but he wasn't really in his element. I liked how you could see him looking at baby pictures on his phone in his down time. He maybe didn't talk about it, but it was clear he missed his baby and that was cute.

Nathan kind of acted like someone who didn't have children and he didn't seem to have a lot in common with the other guys. Then again, he's with Jenelle of all people. If I have noticed anything on this show is that shitty people attract other shitty people so Jenelle and Nathan aren't the worse match, they are both just bad parents.

[kdl88]

Omg, Corey mentioned using the Teen Mom money for a college fund! I didn't know any of these people knew what that was. 

[GreatKazu]

1 hour ago, kdl88 said:

Omg, Corey mentioned using the Teen Mom money for a college fund! I didn't know any of these people knew what that was. 

Cory mentioned it before, but not on camera. He went to court to complain about Leah stealing the girls' college fund and never paying it back. In fact, I believe Leah tried to defend hetself from that accusation on camera.

There was  a quick comment by Jo to Nathan about needing to write down and keeping a record of all his visits with Kaiser so the judge can see it and he can get more visitation. Sounds like Jo was passing on the information that worked for him when going to court. 

Edited December 13, 2016 by GreatKazu

[DangerousMinds]

58 minutes ago, kdl88 said:

Omg, Corey mentioned using the Teen Mom money for a college fund! I didn't know any of these people knew what that was. 

Yeah, because he actually works a full-time job in addition to TM. I wonder if any of the dads discussed THIS?

[VioletNevermind]

12 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

Yeah, because he actually works a full-time job in addition to TM. I wonder if any of the dads discussed THIS?

They compared notes on which moms work.  I'm astounded that so few of these girls don't feel the need to have a job.  "Teen mom," indeed.  What the hell do they do all day besides getting more tattoos, stalking social media, smoking weed, eating, and napping?!  I think I just answered my own question.  God help them when they're 30 and the Teen Mom train rolls out of the station.  Do they not realize that this lifestyle has an expiration date?

Edited December 13, 2016 by SuzyLee

[Racj82]

15 hours ago, gunderda said:

I thought Nathan was an odd choice to include but I suppose he is part of the teen-mom dad crowd now..... maybe?

Or maybe so many of the others backed out that Nathan was a last minute inclusion. I think the others just plain backed out.  If those 3 got there then I think you can't blame the weather on the others not making it. 

When Jo showed his Teen Mom audition video I was like woaaaahhhhhh grown up Isaac!

I'm going assume it's not as easy at seems to travel to a flooded area with no power. Some of them traveled there by car or probably got there before there were certain traveling cut offs. You can very much blame it on weather even if some of them did make it.

Edited December 14, 2016 by Racj82

[GreatKazu]

24 minutes ago, SuzyLee said:

They compared notes on which moms work.  I'm astounded that so few of these girls don't feel the need to have a job.  "Teen mom," indeed.  What the hell do they do all day besides getting more tattoos, stalking social media, smoking weed, eating, and napping?!  I think I just answered my own question.  God help them when they're 30 and the Teen Mom train rolls out of the station.  Do they not realize that this lifestyle has an expiration date?

The girls do have the benefit of having that TM check to cushion them and give them financial security, that is, if they are not splurging their money away like Amber.

Being a mother is a job. A full-time job. 

I have no worries about Kail and Chelsea. The other two are the ones who need to get their ass in gear and figure out what will happen when the gravy train comes to a halt. Will they rely on child support as their source of income?

I don't think Adam wanted to be there, weather permitting or not. I get the feeling if he couldn't sit there and complain and give his side of the story throughout the episode, then he wasn't going to have a part in it. That is why he took the opportunity to slam Chelsea and put the blame all on her during the backstage pass special. In fact, I bet he blamed Chelsea for him not being able to go and participate in this special. He probably blamed it on the fact he had to have his visitation with Aubree.

[VioletNevermind]

1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

The girls do have the benefit of having that TM check to cushion them and give them financial security, that is, if they are not splurging their money away like Amber.

Being a mother is a job. A full-time job. 

I have no worries about Kail and Chelsea. The other two are the ones who need to get their ass in gear and figure out what will happen when the gravy train comes to a halt. Will they rely on child support as their source of income?

As a fellow mom who has both kids and a full-time job, I definitely understand.  I'm just concerned about the girls who have no marketable skills or education to fall back on when this show is over.  The prospects of a 27-year-old woman who has no education or formal job experience won't be great.  I just don't see a whole lot of planning for the future.  Catelynn's situation feels particularly dire.  Someone who would impulsively adopt a pet pig, then dump it when it gets too big (research much?) doesn't seem like the kind of person who's likely to have a sound financial plan in place.  

Edited December 13, 2016 by SuzyLee

[DangerousMinds]

3 hours ago, SuzyLee said:

They compared notes on which moms work.  I'm astounded that so few of these girls don't feel the need to have a job.  "Teen mom," indeed.  What the hell do they do all day besides getting more tattoos, stalking social media, smoking weed, eating, and napping?!  I think I just answered my own question.  God help them when they're 30 and the Teen Mom train rolls out of the station.  Do they not realize that this lifestyle has an expiration date?

This goes for the moms and the dads both.

[VioletNevermind]

Just now, DangerousMinds said:

This goes for the moms and the dads both.

 Absolutely!

[DangerousMinds]

1 hour ago, SuzyLee said:

As a fellow mom who has both kids and a full-time job, I definitely understand.  I'm just concerned about the girls who have no marketable skills or education to fall back on when this show is over.  The prospects of a 27-year-old woman who has no education or formal job experience won't be great.  I just don't see a whole lot of planning for the future.  Catelynn's situation feels particularly dire.  Someone who would impulsively adopt a pet pig, then dump it when it gets too big (research much?) doesn't seem like the kind of person who's likely to have a sound financial plan in place.  

There was a time when Cate (I think) was talking about wanting to be trained as an ultrasound tech, which would actually be a good fit for her, IMO. AND the job prospects are good.

[teapot]

1 hour ago, SuzyLee said:

As a fellow mom who has both kids and a full-time job, I definitely understand.  I'm just concerned about the girls who have no marketable skills or education to fall back on when this show is over.  The prospects of a 27-year-old woman who has no education or formal job experience won't be great.  I just don't see a whole lot of planning for the future.  Catelynn's situation feels particularly dire.  Someone who would impulsively adopt a pet pig, then dump it when it gets too big (research much?) doesn't seem like the kind of person who's likely to have a sound financial plan in place.  

Even though she's not doing too much, I feel like Maci will be fine.  Farrah's got her hustle.  Amber & Cate are screwed.

I see Leah marrying someone w/a  lucrative job (again for the third time), and I can somehow see the same with Jenelle.  I think Kail will be ok, and Chelsea will of course be fine.

Poor Cate & Amber...

[mamadrama]

If they invested their money properly and were responsible about it, they could actually live quite well off the TEEN MOM money for a number of years, depending on where they are from. Average income where I live is around $32,000 a year. I am imagining, from what I've seen on internet research, it isn't that much different in Anderson, St. Clair, and outside of Chattanooga. I have zero problems with them not working outside of the home. I don't. I also know that, with my job, 50% of it is the actual "work" and the other 50% is keeping up my platform and putting energy towards marketing endeavors. So I can even understand their devotion to the various social media platforms and their appearances. Getting on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram every day is part of my job; I imagine the same is true for them. So I will give that a pass. 

What I DON'T give them a pass on is the laziness they appear to take with their children (Amber barely qualifies as a "mother"), their free spending and apparent inability to look to the future, and the trashy attitude they exhibit on said social media sites. It's one thing to keep up a brand; it's another thing to use their platforms to fight with other cast members. 

[Christina87]

2 hours ago, teapot said:

Even though she's not doing too much, I feel like Maci will be fine.  Farrah's got her hustle.  Amber & Cate are screwed.

I see Leah marrying someone w/a  lucrative job (again for the third time), and I can somehow see the same with Jenelle.  I think Kail will be ok, and Chelsea will of course be fine.

Poor Cate & Amber...

I do think Leah's husband this time will be a LOT less attractive than the other two. No sane, good-looking, stable guy would ever accept all the baggage she has at this point. I'm thinking she'll really have to compromise at this point!

ETA: it'll be interesting to see how Leah treats her well-off husband when the show is over and he is her only source of income.

Edited December 13, 2016 by Christina87

[Maharincess]

I just can't see Leah EVER attracting somebody with a lucrative job again. What would she have to offer in a relationship like that?  She'll be lucky to land a part time fast food worker.  Same with Jenelle. 

I stopped watching the Teen Mom shows but I did watch part of this. Gary has turned into such a good man and a good father, I REALLY wish he would do something about his weight before its too late.  He is the only stable parent Leah has and I would hate for him to die at a young age. It makes me so damn sad to see so many obese young people. 

Edited December 13, 2016 by Maharincess

[GreatKazu]

5 hours ago, SuzyLee said:

As a fellow mom who has both kids and a full-time job, I definitely understand.  I'm just concerned about the girls who have no marketable skills or education to fall back on when this show is over.  The prospects of a 27-year-old woman who has no education or formal job experience won't be great.  I just don't see a whole lot of planning for the future.  Catelynn's situation feels particularly dire.  Someone who would impulsively adopt a pet pig, then dump it when it gets too big (research much?) doesn't seem like the kind of person who's likely to have a sound financial plan in place.  

Since Tyler and Cate were not a part of this special, I will comment on their dire situation in their thread.

1 hour ago, Maharincess said:

I just can't see Leah EVER attracting somebody with a lucrative job again. What would she have to offer in a relationship like that?  She'll be lucky to land a part time fast food worker.  Same with Jenelle. 

I stopped watching the Teen Mom shows but I did watch part of this. Gary has turned into such a good man and a good father, I REALLY wish he would do something about his weight before its too late.  He is the only stable parent Leah has and I would hate for him to die at a young age. It makes me so damn sad to see so many obese young people. 

Agree on both points.

[guilfoyleatpp]

Watching now...so Nathan is the kind of guy who jumps in the hot tub while everyone else is unloading the car.

Got it.

[jumper sage]

7 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

There was a time when Cate (I think) was talking about wanting to be trained as an ultrasound tech, which would actually be a good fit for her, IMO. AND the job prospects are good.

But she will never pass the drug test which is usually part of any medical job.

[lidarose9]

This would have been so much better without Nathan. The group dynamic would have been sooooo much better. And more interesting.

[DangerousMinds]

16 hours ago, teapot said:

Even though she's not doing too much, I feel like Maci will be fine.  Farrah's got her hustle.  Amber & Cate are screwed.

I see Leah marrying someone w/a  lucrative job (again for the third time), and I can somehow see the same with Jenelle.  I think Kail will be ok, and Chelsea will of course be fine.

Poor Cate & Amber...

Jenelle has rarely dated anyone with even A job, much less one with a lucrative job.

[Tatum]

2 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Jenelle has rarely dated anyone with even A job, much less one with a lucrative job.

True enough. Although remember some episode when Jenelle was talking about people on her dating app, and there was one seemingly normal guy with a job, and as Jenelle is describing him to Barb, Barb says something like, and he wants to date you? Which, harsh, but legit question. But yeah, generally, like attracts like. No one with his shit together is going to want anything to do with Jenelle, Leah, or Kail. They might be able to attract an employed guy who has never been arrested who is interested in the chance to be on TV (hello, Javi and Germy), but that to me is a pretty big character flaw.

[teapot]

1 hour ago, Tatum said:

True enough. Although remember some episode when Jenelle was talking about people on her dating app, and there was one seemingly normal guy with a job, and as Jenelle is describing him to Barb, Barb says something like, and he wants to date you? Which, harsh, but legit question. But yeah, generally, like attracts like. No one with his shit together is going to want anything to do with Jenelle, Leah, or Kail. They might be able to attract an employed guy who has never been arrested who is interested in the chance to be on TV (hello, Javi and Germy), but that to me is a pretty big character flaw.

ok, guys...no.  I didn't mean that Jenelle was gonna end up with a Fortune 500 exec.  but, like, your friendly neighborhood drug dealer, strip club owner,  or bookie?  Never say never....

[Tatum]

23 minutes ago, teapot said:

ok, guys...no.  I didn't mean that Jenelle was gonna end up with a Fortune 500 exec.  but, like, your friendly neighborhood drug dealer, strip club owner,  or bookie?  Never say never....

Hey, it's a growth industry. Especially if he's willing to make midnight runs to WV.

[GreatKazu]

19 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

Watching now...so Nathan is the kind of guy who jumps in the hot tub while everyone else is unloading the car.

Got it.

He also got into the toy car that belonged to one of the girlses, started it up and rode in it without hesitation. Look dude, that isn't your kid's toy.

When Nathan mentioned having PTSD, Gary said, "Jenelle?" lol

Nathan also mentioned watching the show for ammunition for court. I waited for Cory to say it did not work for him. 

Gary also imentioned if Remi was shown on camera that would be more $$ and a college fund. Cory said yeah, but he makes enough to cover her future. 

Loved this show. 

[HeySandyStrange]

8 hours ago, teapot said:

ok, guys...no.  I didn't mean that Jenelle was gonna end up with a Fortune 500 exec.  but, like, your friendly neighborhood drug dealer, strip club owner,  or bookie?  Never say never....

A drug dealer? She would dig too much in his stash. Any drug dealer who is serious about making a living usually doesn't indulge and protects the goods. A strip club owner would be more reasonable, especially since she'll have a built in job waiting for her.

[Mkay]

I liked how at the end everyone mentioned they should do it again at each other's home.  When Nathan said yea in agreement I asked my tv out loud, "Where? Your jail cell?" 

[smores]

I enjoyed this more than I've enjoyed many episodes of TM2.  My only issue is the smoking/tobacco use.  I totally get that they are adults and can do what they want, but with MTV putting 300 commercials on each hour about how bad smoking is for you it just seems like something they'd want to try not to show blatantly on a show that the teen market they are trying to get to quit might watch.  (for the record, I'm the child of a chain smoker and just the thought of someone "chewing" kicks in my gag reflex, so I realize I'm pretty biased with this)

[AmyFarrahFowler]

I too, really enjoyed this show (really dislike Nathan though) with Corey being my favorite of the Dads that were there. My one complaint being to MTV: please start using subtitles when Corey speaks. He can be so difficult to understand.

[Tatum]

3 hours ago, AmyFarrahFowler said:

I too, really enjoyed this show (really dislike Nathan though) with Corey being my favorite of the Dads that were there. My one complaint being to MTV: please start using subtitles when Corey speaks. He can be so difficult to understand.

Thank god for closed captioning. I  seriously would have been lost without it. Corey's speech pattern is so annoying that I found myself muting the TV and just reading the closed captioning instead.

[GreatKazu]

Some of the most interesting, and gross, information came from this episode. I need more episodes like this one.

Gary answered Cory's question about how he and Amber came to part as a couple. He mentioned Amber going to the clubs and bringing guys home. He then mentioned Amber telling him that she and the guy didn't want to stop clubbing or partying, is that right? As many times as I re-winded that scene, I didn't get that part. He speaks very fast and the scene seemed a bit sliced which made it a bit difficult for me to understand. Is Gary saying they were separated at that time? It was obviously the time before she went to gel.

Nathan said he would turn the radio on while filming in the car because he knew MTV can't use the footage of him having a conversation. My money is more like MTV can't use the footage of him having an argument with Jenelle.

Nathan swallows.

Edited December 15, 2016 by GreatKazu

[AmyFarrahFowler]

@Tatum Thanks for the suggestion! Problem solved.

[ghoulina]

21 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Gary also imentioned if Remi was shown on camera that would be more $$ and a college fund. Cory said yeah, but he makes enough to cover her future. 

LOVE that Cory not only manages to hold down a stable, decent paying job - but that some things are worth more to him than money. He has enough. He doesn't need to bleed the beast just because he can. 

[sunsheyen]

On 12/14/2016 at 6:39 PM, GreatKazu said:

He also got into the toy car that belonged to one of the girlses, started it up and rode in it without hesitation. Look dude, that isn't your kid's toy.

When Nathan mentioned having PTSD, Gary said, "Jenelle?" lol

Nathan also mentioned watching the show for ammunition for court. I waited for Cory to say it did not work for him. 

Gary also imentioned if Remi was shown on camera that would be more $$ and a college fund. Cory said yeah, but he makes enough to cover her future. 

Loved this show. 

I appreciated Gary's reasoning in this scenario wrt Emilee. Showing her at this age and with a stable family (Kristina as mom) isn't exposing her to much and kind of gave us a little bit of info about how EVERYONE who appears on camera is paid. I get what Corey is saying too, not wanting anything in exchange for Remi's privacy, but hey Gary has paid off his house and seems to be all about the bottom line. This is reinforced by him not saying much against Amber and trying to keep the peace but making sure he and his kids get those checks. One of the initial idiots has figured out how to milk the MTV machine without having them milk his people.

[SPLAIN]

On 12/13/2016 at 8:40 AM, DangerousMinds said:

Yeah, because he actually works a full-time job in addition to TM. I wonder if any of the dads discussed THIS?

They probably did. Even if they didn't, it really doesn't matter because this was their time to discuss the girls. We have heard the girls put these guys down for 8 seasons now. I want to hear the guys' side of things and how they feel. What questions do they have about one another is just as important as the times we have heard the girls ask one another personal questions about their exes on the behind the scenes specials.

Cory works full-time and his wife stays at home because she chose to quit her job and be a SAHM.

I have no issue if any of the dads stay at home while their partner works. All in all, if Leah and the rest of the girls can consider being on TM their job, the same holds for the guys.

I am not seeing any of these guys throwing their money around buying a new vehicle every time they ovulate, like Kail. I am not seeing any of them taking countless vacations like Kail and Jenelle.  I don't follow these people on social media, but I am sure if Cory, Jo, and Gary were throwing their money around foolishly, that would be posted here. Gary paid for his house. It is his outright. Amber has no home to call her own.

2 hours ago, sunsheyen said:

I appreciated Gary's reasoning in this scenario wrt Emilee. Showing her at this age and with a stable family (Kristina as mom) isn't exposing her to much and kind of gave us a little bit of info about how EVERYONE who appears on camera is paid. I get what Corey is saying too, not wanting anything in exchange for Remi's privacy, but hey Gary has paid off his house and seems to be all about the bottom line. This is reinforced by him not saying much against Amber and trying to keep the peace but making sure he and his kids get those checks. One of the initial idiots has figured out how to milk the MTV machine without having them milk his people.

Well put.

Edited December 16, 2016 by SPLAIN

[Calm81]

I just finished watching this show. I loved it.

 

I'm glad Adam wasn't there because I get a sense that Corey and JO aren't too fond of his whining. If any of you recall the episode when all the guys got together with that funny host dude ( I can't remember the host name but it was when Uncle bad touch said he would beat his child for dropping a phone in the toilet but then they had to edit it out) every time Adam would start bitching they looked like they wanted to do multiple eye rolls. Adam is too hotheaded for Corey's liking. He's too chill for that whiny douche.

 

I just, overall, enjoyed the simplicity of the show focusing on them fumbling around the kitchen, trying to start a fire and bragging about their life as a dad to kids they love. Nathan was putting on an act, I seriously doubt he would enjoy being a 24/7 dad but I could be wrong. It wouldn't fit into his gym time.

 

I didn't know that Jo smokes.

 

I was hoping that Gary would throw shade at Amber but then it would ruin his good guy image he's been achieving and hinder the co-parenting relationship, which I want him to keep in good terms for bewbew.