Danielle and Mohamed: The Original Mess

[Virtually Me]

55 minutes ago, GracieK said:

Her fan page is back?  I don't see it and can't imagine I'd be blocked.  Do you have the link?

Danielle Mullins Jbali: https://www.facebook.com/Danielle.Jbali24

[GracieK]

That's not her fan page.. that's her personal page. 

[Virtually Me]

1 minute ago, GracieK said:

That's not her fan page.. that's her personal page. 

Huh, ok.  I've never had access to her personal page.  It looks just like her fan page to me.  Wasn't her personal page under Danielle Mullins?

[GracieK]

1 minute ago, Virtually Me said:

Huh, ok.  I've never had access to her personal page.  It looks just like her fan page to me.  Wasn't her personal page under Danielle Mullins?

She has 2 personal facebook accounts.  1 is under Danielle Mullins and the other is Danielle Mullins Jbali.  She also has a fan page which is different from a personal page in that you "like" it rather than friend the person in addition to other features.  

[Virtually Me]

Just now, GracieK said:

She has 2 personal facebook accounts.  1 is under Danielle Mullins and the other is Danielle Mullins Jbali.  She also has a fan page which is different from a personal page in that you "like" it rather than friend the person in addition to other features.  

I stand corrected.  I can't tell one from another, but, I've been blocked from posting on her pages for a while.  Was the fan page the one she made for her and Mo?

[GracieK]

3 minutes ago, Virtually Me said:

I stand corrected.  I can't tell one from another, but, I've been blocked from posting on her pages for a while.  Was the fan page the one she made for her and Mo?

Yes

[Jennifersdc]

1 hour ago, Virtually Me said:

Dani and I used to fight on FB for hours at a time, even when she was at work.  Hardly anyone would take her on by then because her bulldog would attack them on their home turf, calling their friends, family members, bosses, threatening them.  Oddly, she never tried to come after me.  Apparently, Dani loved it; she would block me, then, unblock me and come looking for me.  It was weird.  She also had surrogates who would pretend to be her, except they could spell and write a decent sentence.  She and her kids would join groups to see what was being said about her, and, they would paste the offending posts on her FB pages to gain sympathy.  She was choking on drama.

Is it wrong to think that's awesome? Thanks for taking one for the team and getting back to us.

My specialty is Teresa Giudice BTW. I'm not on FB or Twitter. I'm sure I'd get blocked if I was. Too funny that Danielle blocked then unblocked you....as I said previously there's something not quite there mentally...

[Arwen Evenstar]

Danielle may be a few slices shy of a loaf, but Mo also has more than a few screws loose, don't you think? Albeit, it's a different brand of crazy from Dani's brand.

[Celia Rubenstein]

Mohamed would not spend hours talking to someone on facebook unless he thought he would get some money out of it.

[jumper sage]

4 hours ago, Virtually Me said:

Dani and I used to fight on FB for hours at a time, even when she was at work.  Hardly anyone would take her on by then because her bulldog would attack them on their home turf, calling their friends, family members, bosses, threatening them.  Oddly, she never tried to come after me.  Apparently, Dani loved it; she would block me, then, unblock me and come looking for me.  It was weird.  She also had surrogates who would pretend to be her, except they could spell and write a decent sentence.  She and her kids would join groups to see what was being said about her, and, they would paste the offending posts on her FB pages to gain sympathy.  She was choking on drama.

That is just crazy!

2 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

Is it wrong to think that's awesome? Thanks for taking one for the team and getting back to us.

[nods in agreement]

[Landlord]

14 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Okay, I got my new non-exploding phone today and my husband loaded up and handed it back to me and this is what it looked like. Just had to share!  :) :) 

Your husband is pure evil. :D

[Neurochick]

So is her FB fan page deleted or not?  I thought it was. 

I'm sure she loves the attention.  I'm sure she knows that people can't wait for the next installment of "The Dani and Mo Show."

[CoachWristletJen]

1 hour ago, Landlord said:

Your husband is pure evil. :D

No, he's wonderful! I could not stop laughing when he handed me this phone. :D

[CoachWristletJen]

I know I've been basically team Mo, kind of but there's this quote I'm remembering, I thought it was from Les Liaisons Dangereuses, but I can't recall for certain. Anyway, here's a rough paraphrase that's kind of a game changer:

(That's NOT the quote though... anyone know the actual quote? It might not be from Pierre Choderlos de Laclos. Possibly some other dude or more than likely, another lady?)

On neither team, I guess?

Edited November 4, 2016 by CoachWristletJen

[Natalie68]

17 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

PERFECT! 

Can you just see that going off in public places? Love it!

He said he put my favorite TV star as the screensaver...lol

I think I need help.  I want that as my ringtone.  

[funky-rat]

On ‎11‎/‎3‎/‎2016 at 1:26 PM, Miss Chevious said:

Her son, Corey is out of the house. He's living with his babymama and they have a son together who's around 1 or so. The one daughter, Faith (with the short hair) is out of high school and went to further her education (cosmetology school?). Not sure about the other two. I believe they're still living with Danielle. The youngest one (the one with the glasses) is developmentally delayed and I thought I read somewhere Dani gets disability payments for her.

Sadly,  I know people who receive payments for disabled children.  They consider it income (much like some people live off child support), rather than money to provide for the child.  That girl will probably live with her forever.  One person I worked with years ago had all of her children declared disabled when they became adults and they all continue to live together, and the adult kids are completely dependent on their mom.  So sad.  My cousin's wife, on the other hand, has a son from her first marriage who is fairly disabled who she pushed to get out on his own.  He's incapable of holding down a job, but he has an apartment, pays his bills (with some help) and got married a few years ago to a lovely disabled girl and lives independently.  He lives in a housing complex mainly for the elderly, and they have awesome copacetic relationships.  He helps when they need an able body, and they help when he needs assistance with how to do his laundry, or something else most people take for granted.  I doubt Danielle would let a guaranteed source of income get away, sadly.

[CoachWristletJen]

2 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I think I need help.  I want that as my ringtone.  

Well, hey, it's 90 Day Fiancé Season! Right before Christmas season. 

Gotta do these things up right!

You should see my house at Christmas, BTW.

[Virtually Me]

On ‎11‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 11:06 AM, Neurochick said:

So is her FB fan page deleted or not?  I thought it was. 

I'm sure she loves the attention.  I'm sure she knows that people can't wait for the next installment of "The Dani and Mo Show."

As far as anyone can tell, it's gone.

[Arwen Evenstar]

1 hour ago, Virtually Me said:

As far as anyone can tell, it's gone.

She was probably told by TLC to shut it down or else no checkie. Everyone is tired of her whingeing. As much as I want to feel some sympathy for how broken she is, that whining and whingeing drives me bonkers.

i like her darker hair in the tell all previews. Maybe finally we will get to hear the real story of what went down.  I really want to hear her side and I want to watch Mo squirm in his seat just being in the same room with her.

[bethster2000]

On 11/3/2016 at 9:38 PM, Arwen Evenstar said:

Mo also has more than a few screws loose

He's a con man who should be deported immediately.

[Arwen Evenstar]

7 hours ago, bethster2000 said:

He's a con man who should be deported immediately.

And he would have been if Danielle hadn't been in denial about his behavior. She entered in good faith, but he did not. He did nothing to show he was acting in good faith and wasn't even pretending to do so. But because she sent all these affidavits in that it was "real" because she wanted it to be so badly that she basically solidified his case when she had the power to do the opposite.

[Neurochick]

19 hours ago, bethster2000 said:

He's a con man who should be deported immediately.

I think she could have had him deported had she not been on this show.

[Arwen Evenstar]

40 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

I think she could have had him deported had she not been on this show.

Had they not been on the show, things would have quietly fizzled out with them both parting amicably because they both realized it was a bad idea to couple up. Or, there would have been a chance for mutual respect to flourish.  My hubs always says that if you want nice, normal people to start acting like assholes, put them on a TV show.  Things would not be this bad if TLC wasn't stirring the pot.

Edited November 6, 2016 by Arwen Evenstar

[Virtually Me]

13 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

She entered in good faith, but he did not.

She barely knew the guy and was thinking with her lower half, rather than her head, not that either end is rational.  And, she admitted that she lied about pretty much every thing because she was afraid the truth would make him leave her (which is exactly what happened anyway).  None of that is good faith. 

9 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Had they not been on the show, things would have quietly fizzled out with them both parting amicably because they both realized it was a bad idea to couple up. Or, there would have been a chance for mutual respect to flourish.  My hubs always says that if you want nice, normal people to start acting like assholes, put them on a TV show.  Things would not be this bad if TLC wasn't stirring the pot.

It's interesting to think of what might have been, had they not been on the show.  I think you're right, and, the publicity brought on the women that helped Mo escape and the criticism that made Dani crazy(er than usual).  Reality shows have a pretty consistent record for exacerbating the worst in bad relationships.

Edited November 6, 2016 by Virtually Me

[Arwen Evenstar]

2 hours ago, Virtually Me said:

And, she admitted that she lied about pretty much every thing because she was afraid the truth would make him leave her (which is exactly what happened anyway).  None of that is good faith. 

No, it's not, you're defs right on all of that.  By good faith, I mean she saw it as real, as in real to her.  Lying to a future spouse about important things is way wrong.

[pastaintheprincess]

I'm watching the episodes on TV and Mohamed saying he left his family, his friends, and his plans and later episodes says he doesn't want to leave the US. He goes to the lawyer specifically to find out how long it takes to get his green card and complains why it takes so long...

His herpes on his lip is beyond disgusting, no wonder why he never wants to kiss her.

[escapetoreality]

I want my sex tonight or I will have you deported! 

Damn gurlllll 

[spankydoll]

Quote

4 hours ago, pastaintheprincess said:

I'm watching the episodes on TV and Mohamed saying he left his family, his friends, and his plans and later episodes says he doesn't want to leave the US. He goes to the lawyer specifically to find out how long it takes to get his green card and complains why it takes so long...

His herpes on his lip is beyond disgusting, no wonder why he never wants to kiss her.

 

Is he implying that she has an STD?

[Virtually Me]

2 minutes ago, spankydoll said:

Is he implying that she has an STD?

She peed on him when they had sex.  That's what this is all about.  That's why he said she smells.  In MENA countries, as in some other countries, people don't use toilet paper; they wash with soap and water after elimination.  The smell of urine or feces is very offensive to people from those areas.  It implies bad hygiene.

Edited November 7, 2016 by Virtually Me

[liammaam]

Honestly, I was thinking he was referring to possibly a yeast infection or something like that.  Yeast can also get under fat folds and really smell... I think it was a mix of peeing during sex and just the general funk that she may have.  

[newyorkgirl]

2 hours ago, Virtually Me said:

She peed on him when they had sex.  That's what this is all about.  That's why he said she smells.  In MENA countries, as in some other countries, people don't use toilet paper; they wash with soap and water after elimination.  The smell of urine or feces is very offensive to people from those areas.  It implies bad hygiene.

Actual many people in those countries just use their hands with water to wipe their urine or bowel movements.  Please be honest.  The hygiene is not superior in those parts of the world.  

I just found out about Danielle's criminal record.  Wow!  I am not surprised but it isn't going to look good for her in the immigration courts. They will say that he had no choice but to leave her.  Mohammed is right when he says that people got used to Danielle crying. She cries too often and too childishly (I know that is not a real word) and it doesn't mean that much anymore.   

The best quote of the series!  "I want my sex tonight!"  I have been waiting with baited breath to hear this conversation.  Did you guys see Loren's reaction?  LOL.  Dani has not denied saying it but she did not go into the details.  Not a big deal. He needs to take care of his needs. That is what she brought him here for.  He needs to live up to his end of the bargain. She did not get anything out of the relationship except for this.  He got his Green Card and national fame.  

I can't wait for part two!!!!!  Guilty pleasure.   

[Virtually Me]

1 minute ago, newyorkgirl said:

Actual many people in those countries just use their hands with water to wipe their urine or bowel movements.  Please be honest.  The hygiene is not superior in those parts of the world.  

I was being honest.  Some people may chose not to use soap, but, that's not a cultural thing.  To me, being from the Middle East, the idea of wiping yourself with a dry piece of paper and thinking you're clean was something I had to get used to.

[Virtually Me]

[mamadrama]

What angers me about Danielle is that she really IS trying to manipulate Mo into staying with her. On the reunion tonight she said that the reason she decided to go through with the annulment is because he said they could be friends but then "ignored" her. Yelling at him, threatening to have him deported, etc. when things don't go her way is crazy. I am married to a foreigner. I can hardly see myself yelling, "I'll have you deported" every time he pisses me off. (Hee, maybe I should start. He DID break some dishes tonight by being clumsy...) And while I know that's not a great comparison and she has had reasons to get legit mad at him, that threatening behavior is childish and manipulative. The relationship is over. File the annulment or divorce papers, submit your evidence, and leave it in the hands of the officials. Then move on with your life. She has made it about revenge. And while I can definitely appreciate a good revenge tactic (I have some exes who deserve nothing short of VooDoo) the amount of energy that takes is draining. He did some shitty things, she did some shitty things, and it all fell apart. Now just move on, you two, and see what the officials say. 

[DangerousMinds]

4 hours ago, Virtually Me said:

Mo told the police he and Danielle "were paired up by the producers of this show?" Hmmm.

[Major Bigtime]

Yes, I've heard they were paired up for the show, and that the show was trying to pay them NOT to get married. It's all a scam, the entire show.

[Lion18]

36 minutes ago, Major Bigtime said:

Yes, I've heard they were paired up for the show, and that the show was trying to pay them NOT to get married. It's all a scam, the entire show.

Wow

i missed that the first time I skimmed it

so they get paired up

Do you think like married at first sight?

[Virtually Me]

They weren't paired up by the show for marriage.  They paired themselves up.  I used to correspond with Dani before the show on a site called Visajourney.  She was using it to help her know how to get Mo here.  That was pre-show.

Edited November 7, 2016 by Virtually Me

[CoachWristletJen]

1 hour ago, DangerousMinds said:

Mo told the police he and Danielle "were paired up by the producers of this show?" Hmmm.

I think that was just the police misunderstanding Mohamed's accent or Mohamed misspeaking. 

His English is very good, but it's still not his first language. And, he has accidentally used the wrong words before when he was upset.

They knew each other online for several months long before the show got involved. And, I think she had already visited him in Qatar.

[CoachWristletJen]

6 hours ago, newyorkgirl said:

Actual many people in those countries just use their hands with water to wipe their urine or bowel movements.  Please be honest.  The hygiene is not superior in those parts of the world.  

I just found out about Danielle's criminal record.  Wow!  I am not surprised but it isn't going to look good for her in the immigration courts. They will say that he had no choice but to leave her.  Mohammed is right when he says that people got used to Danielle crying. She cries too often and too childishly (I know that is not a real word) and it doesn't mean that much anymore.   

The best quote of the series!  "I want my sex tonight!"  I have been waiting with baited breath to hear this conversation.  Did you guys see Loren's reaction?  LOL.  Dani has not denied saying it but she did not go into the details.  Not a big deal. He needs to take care of his needs. That is what she brought him here for.  He needs to live up to his end of the bargain. She did not get anything out of the relationship except for this.  He got his Green Card and national fame.  

I can't wait for part two!!!!!  Guilty pleasure.   

That whole thing was off the chain! And then on the small screen when they showed a stunned Kyle leaning in when they were talking about her "issue."  He's like, "Man, I thought I heard everything when I was a bartender..."

Dang! Danielle should have just left that one alone instead of opening up that can of worms on national television.. Talk about bad judgment! She should have just said, "I don't want to talk about this."

I do get the impression that Mohamed is pretty fastidious as far as people go. He's probably here looking at how easy it is to get soap, hot water, and towels, and he's keeping himself very clean and wondering why she does not? He's not taking into account the fact that she is much older, she's given birth to four children, she's tired from working, and overtired from carrying around so much extra weight. Still maybe she could have gotten that pill they talk about on TV, the one where the woman is walking around handholding with her bladder?

I was also really surprised at how she minimized using someone else's credit card like it was no big deal because she needed groceries.

[Aw my lahgs]

1 hour ago, CoachWristletJen said:

He's probably here looking at how easy it is to get soap, hot water, and towels, and he's keeping himself very clean and wondering why she does not?

Actually, Mohamed is known to have very poor hygiene himself. He only showers a couple of times a week and rarely brushes his teeth.

[DangerousMinds]

The reality is - water may be plentiful in this country, but can also be expensive for those of limited means. And the water company has NO problem shutting it off completely if timely payments aren't made. 

[TheVoicesToldMeTo]

I just started watching this show a few weeks ago and had been hoping they'd air a special on Dani and Mo's background.  Up until then I had some sympathy for Dani.  Not anymore!

My God.  This woman is my age and looks old enough to be my mother.  Hoodies stopped being your friend about a decade ago!  Her and her shit-eating grin every time she has to engage in a serious conversation.  She had/has absolutely nothing to offer any man other than the promise of a green card, so why did she think she deserved a prince charming when she can't even take care of herself or her children? 

The casting director must have gotten a big fat bonus for finding Dani.

Question:  They show is paying them, right?  How do her utilities keep getting shut off?  Why couldn't she afford a $700 dress?

[Toaster Strudel]

4 hours ago, Major Bigtime said:

Yes, I've heard they were paired up for the show, and that the show was trying to pay them NOT to get married. It's all a scam, the entire show.

No... there is evidence on Facebook of her family's opposition to the couple for I think more than a year before the show.

No, they were NOT paired up.

2 hours ago, Nutella said:

Actually, Mohamed is known to have very poor hygiene himself. He only showers a couple of times a week and rarely brushes his teeth.

Yes and he is plagued by foot odor he can't seem to get rid of.  Horrible foot odor.

[escapetoreality]

All right so the Dani/Mo Dani fan page is gone and TLC has disabled the Visitor Post section of the FB page for the show. All the comments on the wall are just tedious public comments by people who are only now catching up to the saga.  What is the best source for current info? The Miami trip was 6 months ago.  Mo has a FB page and an Instagram but only the most inane self-laudatory postings are there.  Are there any reliable places (other than this forum of course) for updates?     Sandusky Socialite and Sandusky Scammer on Twitter seem to deliver -- any others? Do the "girlses" still engage?

Plus where does one follow the antics of Maria Veiga? She must have been devastated that her scene (per the police report) was cut from last night's episode.    

[Virtually Me]

Maria has a couple of closed groups on FB.

[newyorkgirl]

12 hours ago, Virtually Me said:

I was being honest.  Some people may chose not to use soap, but, that's not a cultural thing.  To me, being from the Middle East, the idea of wiping yourself with a dry piece of paper and thinking you're clean was something I had to get used to.

I didn't mean to imply that you were lying. You just did not give the whole story.  The idea of using your hand to wipe stool or urine is less sanitary than using toilet paper.  The hands should be kept clean at all times.  Toilet paper use is associated with fewer infections and fewer epidemics.  No one should ever use his or her hand to clean themselves after elimination.  Even poor orphans that I worked with in developing countries used leaves instead of their hands.  

[TheVoicesToldMeTo]

Forget fraud, couldn't Dani get an annulment on the grounds they haven't had sex since they said "I do"?

[Virtually Me]

6 minutes ago, newyorkgirl said:

I didn't mean to imply that you were lying. You just did not give the whole story.  The idea of using your hand to wipe stool or urine is less sanitary than using toilet paper.  The hands should be kept clean at all times.  Toilet paper use is associated with fewer infections and fewer epidemics.  No one should ever use his or her hand to clean themselves after elimination.  Even poor orphans that I worked with in developing countries used leaves instead of their hands.  

I never said they only use their hands.  I said they use soap and water.

2 minutes ago, TheVoicesToldMeTo said:

Forget fraud, couldn't Dani get an annulment on the grounds they haven't had sex since they said "I do"?

Statute of limitations has run out on that. 

[newyorkgirl]

15 minutes ago, Virtually Me said:

I never said they only use their hands.  I said they use soap and water.

 

You are not getting the point.  One's hands should NEVER touch fecal matter.  Using soap and water is irrelevant.  Using hands to wipe your bottom after defecation is associated with disease spread and infections and death. Urine is sterile but bowel movements are full of bacteria even in normal individuals.

Use toilet paper. It is is better than using your hands.