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Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

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libgirl2

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5 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Settling on halfway wouldn't be that bad.  12.5 years should serve notice that it was a major crime.  (Halfway between the minimum and the max the prosecution requested.) 

I could live with 12.5 years. From what I just read, he is a menace to society and will never change. I can't even imagine be married to a monster like him. 

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New show title: 10 to 20 Years and Counting 

MargeGunderson
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Someone on Reddit just described Josh’s face as a glistening glazed ham. I am considering divorcing my husband and marrying that poster. 

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Well, for many of us, it's the difference between 'imperfect' and 'non-PC' and being a criminal.  Josh is a child molester and his parents actively intervened in his situation to avoid him being punis

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emmawoodhouse

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3 minutes ago, SMama said:

If Anna is aware of the prosecution’s request she’s in a really bad place right now. Or maybe she’s stupid enough to think the judge will see what a stand up, prosecuted Christian her husband is and send him home. 

But there's a whole story that we don't know!!!!!111 🙄

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Zella

Zella

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14 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Settling on halfway wouldn't be that bad.  12.5 years should serve notice that it was a major crime.  (Halfway between the minimum and the max the prosecution requested.) 

Oh that's right--I forgot about the 5 year minimum. 

Edited to add: I finished reading We Own This City this week and one of the cops sentenced in that federal corruption case did a considerable amount of groveling and asked for 20. The prosecution asked for 30, and I think the judge split the difference due to the groveling and gave him 25. But that was foremost in my mind when I was commenting, even taking into account how different the charges are. 

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Heathen

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Duggar is "...a profoundly hardworking man committed with every grain in his body to his family, his faith, and to helping those around him at any cost." 

 

CACKLE. Who the fuck do they think they're kidding? 

 

Please excuse my language. 

 

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emmawoodhouse

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12 minutes ago, Heathen said:

Duggar is "...a profoundly hardworking man committed with every grain in his body to his family, his faith, and to helping those around him at any cost." 

 

CACKLE. Who the fuck do they think they're kidding? 

 

Please excuse my language. 

 

I knew the defense would throw out some flowery spaghetti to see if it sticks. That's just...utter bullshit.

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Cinnabon

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23 minutes ago, Heathen said:

Duggar is "...a profoundly hardworking man committed with every grain in his body to his family, his faith, and to helping those around him at any cost." 

 

CACKLE. Who the fuck do they think they're kidding? 

 

Please excuse my language. 

 

When has Smuggar or Anna ever helped anyone else? Anna does nothing but spread more hate online.

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Minivanessa

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Oh, Lord. I just read the defense statement. I literally laughed out loud at this sentence on page 1: 

"The 34 - year - old father of seven who stands before this Court for sentencing has lived an admirable life while navigating unique challenges associated with being in the public spotlight since childhood."

It is interesting that the defense sentencing memo does not quote a single one of Josh's siblings. It quotes "good character" comments about Josh from: Michelle, Anna, Pastor David Waller, Pa Keller, LaCount Reber, Nicole Burress, and Raphael Perez. These were apparently in letters of support that the defense filed simultaneously with the memo.

The defense memo doesn't list the letters, just says in conclusion that they are "numerous." Whatever "numerous" means. It's possible of course that one or more siblings provided letters of support that the defense submitted to the court without quoting in the memo. I find it unlikely, though not impossible. 

I also guffawed when I got to that part about how "profoundly hardworking" he was. And his deep devotion to his marriage. Well, except for that Ashley Madison account . . . 🙄.  I didn't linger over the document but AFAIK it doesn't mention his time in Jesus Jail. You'd never know from reading the memo that Josh was separated from his family for several weeks following that scandal. The memo almost bristles with descriptions of how deeply his wife and seven kids adore him and how the kids cry for their daddy who isn't home with them.

And TBH I skimmed past the pages of legal stuff about number of images, how the enhancements shouldn't apply, etc. Ain't got time for that. 

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Cinnabon

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Pa Keller is a pathetic excuse for a father, imo. For writing that letter and throwing his daughter to the wolves.

1 minute ago, ginger90 said:

The defense citing that Josh set his alarm so he would go to work within the window allowed (while at the Reber’s) certainly should require a lesser sentence. Good grief.

Well, he may be one of the only Duggars who has ever used an alarm clock, so there’s that.

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iwantcookies

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12 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Pa Keller is a pathetic excuse for a father, imo. For writing that letter and throwing his daughter to the wolves.

Well, he may be one of the only Duggars who has ever used an alarm clock, so there’s that.

And Pa Keller threw his son into Rodrigues clutches. Not a very good father.

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24 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

The defense citing that Josh set his alarm so he would go to work within the window allowed (while at the Reber’s) certainly should require a lesser sentence. Good grief.

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By this standard, I deserve a commendation award myself for my life's work of being devoted to the cause of punctuality. 

How shit of a person do you have to be to be reduced to throwing yourself at the mercy of the court because you managed to set an alarm clock? LOL

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Parts of the defense’s arguments are so lame it’s laughable. One of the reasons the prosecution asked for enhanced penalties was his sexual abuse of minors. The defense’s response was that it was reported by a tabloid, Bobye Holt didn’t have first hand knowledge of the abuse (i.e. she wasn’t there when it happened) and that Josh was a minor (when the abuse didn’t happen). Completely ignoring that his parents and sister went on television and confirmed the abuse (even if they downplayed it). And maybe it’s just me, but all the character statements about what a good father and provider Josh is and how his family and children need him just give me the creeps. For God’s sake, he was convicted of possessing child sexual abuse materials. Talking about how he once helped someone build a deck in the face of that conviction is utterly reprehensible.

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BigBingerBro

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I'm thinking that it's fairly standard that the defense lawyers try to paint the accused as the most heroic and hardworking indivduals who ever lived despite them being absolute scum of the earth,  With that said, I am not surprised to read the utter BS they crafted about Sex Pest Joshua Duggar,   My only hope is that the judge also smells the BS

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4 minutes ago, Zella said:

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By this standard, I deserve a commendation award myself for my life's work of being devoted to the cause of punctuality. 

How shit of a person do you have to be to be reduced to throwing yourself at the mercy of the court because you managed to set an alarm clock? LOL

Hey, it's not like any Duggar has ever used an alarm clock. Give him some credit for breaking family tradition!

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MargeGunderson

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Just now, BigBingerBro said:

I'm thinking that it's fairly standard that the defense lawyers try to paint the accused as the most heroic and hardworking indivduals who ever lived despite them being absolute scum of the earth,  With that said, I am not surprised to read the utter BS they crafted about Sex Pest Joshua Duggar,   My only hope is that the judge also smells the BS

Oh, I’m not surprised that the defense tried to make Josh look good, only that some of the examples that they used were so unimpressive. 

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Zella

Zella

2 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

Oh, I’m not surprised that the defense tried to make Josh look good, only that some of the examples that they used were so unimpressive. 

Yeah even by the standards of "Your honor, my client, terrible as he may be, has some redeeming qualities," they are really terrible examples. 

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15 minutes ago, Zella said:

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By this standard, I deserve a commendation award myself for my life's work of being devoted to the cause of punctuality. 

How shit of a person do you have to be to be reduced to throwing yourself at the mercy of the court because you managed to set an alarm clock? LOL

🙋‍♀️🤦‍♀️please take my high 5 and face palm awards. 

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libgirl2

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19 minutes ago, Zella said:

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By this standard, I deserve a commendation award myself for my life's work of being devoted to the cause of punctuality. 

How shit of a person do you have to be to be reduced to throwing yourself at the mercy of the court because you managed to set an alarm clock? LOL

I should get a Nobel Peace Prize. 

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emmawoodhouse

emmawoodhouse

3 minutes ago, Quilt Fairy said:

While the defense memo is good for a laugh, I definitely warn anyone reading the prosecution memo that it is very disturbing.  There are descriptions of the images that have not been revealed before and they are extremely graphic. 

Even sensationalist KJ said she wouldn't post it. 

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Cinnabon

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31 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

Parts of the defense’s arguments are so lame it’s laughable. One of the reasons the prosecution asked for enhanced penalties was his sexual abuse of minors. The defense’s response was that it was reported by a tabloid, Bobye Holt didn’t have first hand knowledge of the abuse (i.e. she wasn’t there when it happened) and that Josh was a minor (when the abuse didn’t happen). Completely ignoring that his parents and sister went on television and confirmed the abuse (even if they downplayed it). And maybe it’s just me, but all the character statements about what a good father and provider Josh is and how his family and children need him just give me the creeps. For God’s sake, he was convicted of possessing child sexual abuse materials. Talking about how he once helped someone build a deck in the face of that conviction is utterly reprehensible.

I think the whole “he/she should get a reduced sentence/special consideration because they have a spouse and/or kids) is BS anyway. People with kids shouldn’t get more leeway than single people for the same type of crimes, imo. And is the defense calling Jill’s testimony on the stand about Josh’s abuse lies?

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SMama

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2 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

I think the whole “he/she should get a reduced sentence/special consideration because they have a spouse and/or kids) is BS anyway. People with kids shouldn’t get more leeway than single people for the same type of crimes, imo. And is the defense calling Jill’s testimony on the stand about Josh’s abuse lies?

Thankfully Jill didn’t testify. 

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Zella

Zella

The local reporter who covered the trial in those thorough daily recaps has written about the prosecution's memo, and he didn't include any graphic detail:

https://www.nwahomepage.com/news/a-deep-seated-pervasive-and-violent-sexual-interest-in-children-prosecution-recommends-20-year-sentence-for-josh-duggar/

If I am reading his Reddit comments correctly, he'll have a summary of the defense one too later tonight. 

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Cinnabon

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8 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I browsed the Prosecution's memo and the details are a thousand times worse than what was revealed during the trial. I don't know how the attorneys typed that thing up without losing their lunch.

I can't decide if Josh's supporters are willfully ignorant or as demented as he is.

I hope Anna and Michelle read that memo, although I highly doubt it.

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Cinnabon

Cinnabon

More from the defense statement:

Throughout his life, Duggar has worked extremely hard to provide for his family.
Following in his father's footsteps, Duggar has worked in auto sales and real estate investment
and, more recently, in building and renovating homes. While Duggar's work pursuits are certainly
impressive, he is far from one dimensional and the letters from his family and friends make this
abundantly clear.

so basically - he’s done  the exact same kind of “work” every single one of his brothers is doing . Directed by his daddy.

 

emmawoodhouse

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5 minutes ago, Zella said:

That final paragraph of Anna's letter is just so tone deaf. Also did . . . did Michelle sign her letter to a federal judge with a heart for the i? I've seen her sign like that before, but that seems pretty tone deaf too. 

I can't believe Meech signed her name like a lovesick 12 year old. 😂

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