Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[BitterApple]

1 hour ago, farmgal4 said:

Y'all are probably going to hate me but...

Meridith is nowhere near as ugly as Davia; however, her mouth is awful.  If it weren't for her mouth, she would be much cuter.  Davia, bless her heart, is severely lacking in the looks department.  I hope she somehow manages to outgrow it.

I think Davia is one of those kids who is unfortunate looking as a baby but will turn out to be a good looking adult. 

Edited October 1, 2016 by BitterApple

[kokapetl]

The M&Ms all have Anna's askew nose. Davia unfortunately has this floating around on tumblr:

The other one, boy Waller, was cute as a button. 

Priscilla is not aging very well. 

Edited October 1, 2016 by Kokapetl

[Natalie68]

6 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

The M&Ms all have Anna's askew nose. Davia unfortunately has this floating around on tumblr:

Oh my

[BetyBee]

I honestly think Davia and Meredith are both very cute.

Edited October 1, 2016 by BetyBee

[tabloidlover]

On ‎9‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 10:54 AM, lookeyloo said:

31 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

The M&Ms all have Anna's askew nose. Davia unfortunately has this floating around on tumblr:

 

The other one, boy Waller, was cute as a button. 

Priscilla is not aging very well. 

 

Wow, Priscilla IS rapidly aging, poor thing.  I cannot even imagine all that is on her plate every single day.  Stress will age the shit out of you.

[BitterApple]

Trader Joe's? No more Aldi shopping for this family!

Pris really needs to start wearing a good sunblock. I'm sure growing up in Florida as a fair-skinned blonde hasn't helped matters.

[sometimesy]

Michael and Mjkyieenhzheeh are cute.

Someone on here astutely pointed out Anna looks like she descends from Whoville.

[farmgal4]

1 hour ago, tabloidlover said:

Wow, Priscilla IS rapidly aging, poor thing.  I cannot even imagine all that is on her plate every single day.  Stress will age the shit out of you.

You're exactly right about the stress/aging connection.  I'm proof positive.  Looking through the Waller IG:  Priscilla is just heartbreaking.  David is just an asshole.

[Sew Sumi]

31 minutes ago, sometimesy said:

Michael and Mjkyieenhzheeh are cute.

Someone on here astutely pointed out Anna looks like she descends from Whoville.

Guilty as charged. 

 

[Arwen Evenstar]

Lol...so much Cindy Lou Who

[Sew Sumi]

Pregnant or a food baby from too many carb-laden meals since Joshley came home? She's definitely put on a lot of weight since his return from Jesus Jail. 

 

[DoctorWhovian]

Omg those stupid pigtails. Who thinks that looks good on a kid with so little hair?

Edited October 3, 2016 by DoctorWhovian

[Celia Rubenstein]

It's like weave, but for babies.  

You have to train them to handle ridiculously excessive amount of hair right from the get-go.

Edited October 3, 2016 by Celia Rubenstein

[NewDigs]

4 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Pregnant or a food baby from too many carb-laden meals since Joshley came home? She's definitely put on a lot of weight since his return from Jesus Jail. 

 

Looks more like a muffin-top. Kid is a bit pudgy too. (sorry, shallow end morning)

Wearing weight as an armor? Protection?

She's so trapped. Sad.

[GeeGolly]

I wondered if she was pregnant after seeing the anniversary pic too. I can snark like the rest of them but the hate that will come out if Anna is pregnant makes me uneasy.

Anna has done nothing wrong and women who have more resources than her often stay with their husbands. I can't help but feel a little bad for her. Like @NewDigs said, she's trapped.

[Marigold]

That's a really unflattering picture of Anna.  She was looking so much better without Vile Josh at home.  

I tend to feel sorry for Anna also. I wouldn't want to trade places with her.  And after that birthday video where the Duggar genetic kidults talked about all the cleaning and dirty work that she does for everyone?  Made me think that she is a second class citizen.  Cinderella vibe.  And then having to deal with Josh?  I can't even imagine....that gross pig wanting to F every freaking minute after he sneaks off with his hidden smart phone and gets himself all hot.   

Edited October 3, 2016 by Marigold

[Lemur]

Maybe I'm a hard-hearted soul, but girlfriend bought her misery from all accounts.  She was riding high on the hog and the Gothard totem pole for her "fine catch" in Smuggar and his gigs with tv show and the Christian fundamentalist group and by all accounts had no problem lording it over people.  And now she's made to scrub toilets?  Ehhh.  Seems about right.  A little humility won't hurt her.  Granted, she's still married to that rancid sack of suet, but then again, she allegedly knew that kind of trouble she was buying when she signed on for this gig.

[Arwen Evenstar]

@Lemur...Rancid sack of suet! I laughed so hard that I had to fess up to my headship why I was so amused.

[CarolMK]

I strongly suspect that Anna didn't know about Josh's past as a teen. She might have been alerted to the fact that he looked at porn, but I really don't believe for one minute that he confessed to her about all the charges in the police report , and to her parents as well. I'm sure that her folks would have never let her marry him had they known about all of that. Just my 2 cents. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

10 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Pregnant or a food baby from too many carb-laden meals since Joshley came home? She's definitely put on a lot of weight since his return from Jesus Jail. 

 

White always makes us look bigger. The ill fitting bra and her stance are doing her no favors. If I were in her shoes, I'd be drinking myself into a stupor from morning until night, and I don't even really like to drink all that much.

[Lemur]

43 minutes ago, CarolMK said:

I strongly suspect that Anna didn't know about Josh's past as a teen. She might have been alerted to the fact that he looked at porn, but I really don't believe for one minute that he confessed to her about all the charges in the police report , and to her parents as well. I'm sure that her folks would have never let her marry him had they known about all of that. Just my 2 cents. 

Why?  Those were the failings of a young boy who has repented and was forgiven and washed clean in the blood of the lamb.  

 

37 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

White always makes us look bigger. The ill fitting bra and her stance are doing her no favors. If I were in her shoes, I'd be drinking myself into a stupor from morning until night, and I don't even really like to drink all that much.

Yes about the white, yes about the bra, yes about her stance.  Also, I'd be totally self-anesthetizing with anything I could get my hands on, including booze and food. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

16 minutes ago, Lemur said:

 

 

Yes about the white, yes about the bra, yes about her stance.  Also, I'd be totally self-anesthetizing with anything I could get my hands on, including booze and food. 

So would I...It's too much my tendency in any case, and I have an inestimably better situation in life than she has. That being said, her smile on that picture actually looks rather sweet, unguarded, and genuine. I do hope she does have those moments as well.

[Sew Sumi]

The interesting twist is how great she looked while Smuggar was in Jesus Jail. Yes, she was being eaten up emotionally, but now that he's back, poor Anna has reverted to old bad habits. This capitulation is likely to keep Smuggles "happy," ie. off the internet and out of other women's beds. Remember how thin Smuggar was when we first saw pics of him last spring compared to the anniversary pic? 

His gluttony is just begging for an early heart attack, and Anna will keep feeding him what he wants until it happens. As for her, why can't she make a big salad or something more healthy for herself and the kids? 

I feel for her, because I think there was a fair amount of parental manipulation in setting her up with Smuggar. We will never know how much she really knew when they started their relationship, but I have never thought she knew everything, in spite of the "he was just a kid!! Jesus forgives!!!! mantra the Duggars used in his defense in the Megyn Kelly interviews. We never heard from Anna at all until the winter specials, and by then she was completely broken. I don't suspect much has changed; she seems to have remained a doormat. No agency at all. So sad.

[Jynnan tonnix]

5 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

The interesting twist is how great she looked while Smuggar was in Jesus Jail. Yes, she was being eaten up emotionally, but now that he's back, poor Anna has reverted to old bad habits. This capitulation is likely to keep Smuggles "happy," ie. off the internet and out of other women's beds. Remember how thin Smuggar was when we first saw pics of him last spring compared to the anniversary pic? 

His gluttony is just begging for an early heart attack, and Anna will keep feeding him what he wants until it happens. As for her, why can't she make a big salad or something more healthy for herself and the kids? 

I feel for her, because I think there was a fair amount of parental manipulation in setting her up with Smuggar. We will never know how much she really knew when they started their relationship, but I have never thought she knew everything, in spite of the "he was just a kid!! Jesus forgives!!!! mantra the Duggars used in his defense in the Megyn Kelly interviews. We never heard from Anna at all until the winter specials, and by then she was completely broken. I don't suspect much has changed; she seems to have remained a doormat. No agency at all. So sad.

It's hard, despite the best of intentions, when life gets into a rut. My husband recently accepted a job in Virginia while I stay in Connecticut (moving is really not an option right now as my parents are elderly and not in the best of health, so I really need to be nearby). But, honestly, it's been the best thing to get us out of the bottle-of-wine-apiece-with-dinner-every.single.night rut we had gotten into over the past years. I've been experimenting with a lot of vegetarian and vegan cooking, which he would probably actually like except that he's really set in his ways, diet-wise. But he's been eating a lot of salads as well, and there's a nice gym in his apartment complex. Both of us have been drinking significantly less (I pretty much just save it for when my daughter & son-in-law come over or dinner every week or so), and despite the fact that I still can't resist having some chips to munch on toward bedtime, it doesn't turn into an eating binge the way it would when I also had a bottle of wine sloshing around in there, and I've lost about 17 lb in the past 4 months or so without really even feeling as though I was dieting. He's lost a similar amount, though he only needed to drop about 25-30 lb, where I could still stand to jettison a good 50 more.

Yet I fully expect that if he were to come back home tomorrow, we'd be back in the old habits within two months. He expects to stay at this job for two or three years, so hopefully that will be enough time to really ingrain some new habits. I'm going down there to visit him for a week soon, so we'll see how much wine that ends up involving! LOL

Sorry, this ended up straying off topic, but the point really WAS that it's probably just so much easier for Anna to simply fall in with whatever keeps Josh on a even keel right now that to bother about taking care of herself on top of all the other stress. Unfortunate, but understandable.

[drafan]

That pic up there???

That could be her new Fundie-whore look....no layer underneath the white unlined V-neck T-shirt.... a hint of a tan line.... shirt ready to veer off to the side ,possibly exposing a shoulder....  necklace taking the focus off her countenance and onto her right boob....I dunno...looks borderline defrauding to me.

Aaaannnnd...I don't feel sorry for her for one second. She could leave. She likes things like that SUV or minivan or whatever it is that she's getting into. I'm sure there's a Coach purse there somewhere.

[louannems]

Her smile does look unguarded and genuine.  I zoomed in and, to me, her hair looks DIRTY!  Not just loaded up with product, but actually dirty, as in not shampooed for half a week.  Also, the tail of hair shown getting into the back seat also looks filthy.  Meredith - I wonder while Anna was falling apart after her birth, perhaps she couldn't care for Meredith, and the lost girls overfed her on formula and crackers.

I am being mean, and I do feel badly for Anna's life, but this family does put themselves out their for us to see!

[Marigold]

Anna might've known a few basic things about josh like "he peeked at a picture of a naked woman".  She had NO IDEA what porn can involve. At 19 or 20 coming from such a closed environment?  she had no idea.  

I certainly agree with all of you.  Anna was quite smug.  However, her fall was really brutal.  She is currently miserable.  She is married to Josh Duggar and all his filthy actions and vile history.  Jim Bob is her FIL.   I feel bad for all that.  I've offered grace to someone who has offended me and hurt me much more in real life than stupid Anna Duggar with a few unkind, unifnormed tweets.  Anna is an example of what we never want to happen to our daughters. 

[Lemur]

7 minutes ago, Marigold said:

Anna might've known a few basic things about josh like "he peeked at a picture of a naked woman".  She had NO IDEA what porn can involve. At 19 or 20 coming from such a closed environment?  she had no idea.  

I certainly agree with all of you.  Anna was quite smug.  However, her fall was really brutal.  She is currently miserable.  She is married to Josh Duggar and all his filthy actions and vile history.  Jim Bob is her FIL.   I feel bad for all that.  I've offered grace to someone who has offended me and hurt me much more in real life than stupid Anna Duggar with a few unkind, unifnormed tweets.  Anna is an example of what we never want to happen to our daughters. 

She worked in a prison ministry!  C'mon!  (Honestly, I agree to disagree here, I don't think she - or any of these idjits - are nearly as innocent as they like to play on television.  I also think they get off on redemption arcs and Road to Damascus conversions.  So, yeah, but that's me.)

[Marigold]

Anna might've had a vague idea of things. And her working in a prison ministry was probably handing out Bibles or something.  She was  young and sheltered.  No way she was sitting down with some rough ladies in jail talking about "stuff".  She just knew they broke God's laws and did bad things.  Basic stuff. Theft, drugs, etc.  Maybe prayed with some people and went home. 

Currently, yes, the Duggars are way, way more aware than they portray on TV. Inlcuding Anna.  She has a smart phone and can lock herself in the bathroom and google things.  But this was over 8 years ago when they got married. . We didn't have smart phones. Internet was spotty for many families if her family even had internet in their home.  The Kellers lived out in Florida and truthfully, her parents look like crazy people from the 70's...completely out of style and out of touch with reality.  Certainly not a weatlhy family at all. I would bet Anna had no clue what the hell Josh did and what porn really is.  Now?  oh poor Anna knows more about porn than anyone should! But back then, no way. She had no idea what she was getting into with that pig. I don't think Anna made an informed decision about Josh because she didn't have all the facts and what sketchy details she did have, she didn't really understand. 

Edited October 3, 2016 by Marigold

[drafan]

2 minutes ago, Marigold said:

   But back then, no way. She had no idea what she was getting into with that pig. I don't think Anna made an informed decision about Josh because she didn't have all the facts and what sketchy details she did have, she didn't really understand. 

I think the name for this is "Arranged Marriage".

[GeeGolly]

If I could have known what I didn't know in my late teens and early 20s ...

[Marigold]

Good point.  It really was an arranged marriage that benefited both families. 

Jim Bob dumped his pervert kid on some unsuspecting young woman who was madly in love with Joshua DUGGAR! 

Mr. Keller married his daughter into Fund Royalty. 

Win-win.  Except for Anna. Maybe that is why I have some sympathy for her even though she was smug a few years back.  

[GeeGolly]

I know this is going to be an unpopular post but ...

Even typical parents can get dumb (or hopeful) where their kids are concerned. They believe in change or redemption, or whatever. Maybe love and denial get in the way, but I don't think JB & M really thought they were dumping Josh on unsuspecting Anna. 

Not that Joshes transgressions are the same, as say, drug addiction, but for comparisons sake; I'm not sure all parents would intervene in an engagement and tell the prospective SIL/DIL that they were marrying a recovering drug abuser/alcoholic. They're going to believe in their kid and their recovery. And I believe Anna had some kind of knowledge, maybe not the entire story, but she was told something.

I have know idea what JB & M were thinking because when I try and do that I make myself crazy. And maybe my view is skewed because I work with some folks who are parents and have kids who are addicted, some have kids in jail, and I see how much they believe and need to believe that their kids can have a better future.

[Sew Sumi]

2 hours ago, drafan said:

I think the name for this is "Arranged Marriage".

I mentioned above that after Smuggar expressed his interest in Anna to his parents, there was certainly a ton of back and forth between Boob and Pa Keller to make Smuggar remotely palatable to the Kellers. Who knows what they told Anna at the time, but I seriously doubt it was the whole truth of the matter. 

Edited October 3, 2016 by Sew Sumi

[Zella]

2 hours ago, Marigold said:

I would bet Anna had no clue what the hell Josh did and what porn really is. 

I suspect this too. I went to college with some very sheltered fundies who didn't know what porn really was. In what may have been the most awkward group project ever about pop culture,  some of these girls labeled some extremely tame pg-13 sex scene "porn, " and I had to explain to them what porn really was. They thought I was degenerate and were confused why I didn't agree that whatever we were talking about was porn.  One of them was getting married in a month. 

[GeeGolly]

46 minutes ago, Zella said:

I suspect this too. I went to college with some very sheltered fundies who didn't know what porn really was. In what may have been the most awkward group project ever about pop culture,  some of these girls labeled some extremely tame pg-13 sex scene "porn, " and I had to explain to them what porn really was. They thought I was degenerate and were confused why I didn't agree that whatever we were talking about was porn.  One of them was getting married in a month. 

I was not sheltered when growing up. But as a young 20ish non virgin I thought oral sex was talking dirty to one another. I can only imagine what some of these young ladies don't know.

[Zella]

13 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I was not sheltered when growing up. But as a young 20ish non virgin I thought oral sex was talking dirty to one another. I can only imagine what some of these young ladies don't know.

I know what you mean. I also wasn't really sheltered, but I was in my late teens/early 20s before I finally learned what phone sex really meant. LOL My mental image for it before learning the truth was bizarre and didn't make much sense, now that I think about it.

I remember just really hoping that the one who was getting married was going to get some sort of crash course in sex ed before her wedding. 

[BitterApple]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I know this is going to be an unpopular post but ...

Even typical parents can get dumb (or hopeful) where their kids are concerned. They believe in change or redemption, or whatever. Maybe love and denial get in the way, but I don't think JB & M really thought they were dumping Josh on unsuspecting Anna. 

 

I don't disagree with you at all. I think it's human for parents to want to see the best in their kids, or believe they were just young and dumb when they did xyz. I have a cousin who's been a drug addict for over fifteen years. She's done multiple stints in rehab, multiple stints in jail, has five kids by three men, all of whom were dumped once the novelty wore off, yet my aunt and uncle still continue to bail her out of all her messes. It's probably not that different with Boob, Michelle and Josh. 

[Sew Sumi]

That's just plain co-dependency, and Smuggar's case is eerily similar to @BitterApple's story, aside from the problem. Boob needs to cut the fucking cord and let Smuggar fend for himself. 

Of course, when you have a narcissist, control freak for a father, I don't forsee a happy ending for Smuggar; he will continue to be bailed out of whatever mess he gets in for as long as the family is in the public eye to save Boob's reputation. Hell, he was bailed out BEFORE the cameras came, so an argument can be made that he'll continue to be bailed out after the fame fades away. 

Edited October 4, 2016 by Sew Sumi

[Marigold]

21 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I know this is going to be an unpopular post but ...

Even typical parents can get dumb (or hopeful) where their kids are concerned. They believe in change or redemption, or whatever. Maybe love and denial get in the way, but I don't think JB & M really thought they were dumping Josh on unsuspecting Anna. 

Not that Joshes transgressions are the same, as say, drug addiction, but for comparisons sake; I'm not sure all parents would intervene in an engagement and tell the prospective SIL/DIL that they were marrying a recovering drug abuser/alcoholic. They're going to believe in their kid and their recovery. And I believe Anna had some kind of knowledge, maybe not the entire story, but she was told something.

I have know idea what JB & M were thinking because when I try and do that I make myself crazy. And maybe my view is skewed because I work with some folks who are parents and have kids who are addicted, some have kids in jail, and I see how much they believe and need to believe that their kids can have a better future.

No, not unpopular.  I can agree with this too.  i think it's a mix of both of our posts. 

Jim Bob and Michelle really BELIEVED that Josh was gonna be good.  But deep down, every parent knows...like knows who their child is. You want to believe but there is always that tiny voice in the back of your mind, worrying that "it" will happen again. 

Maybe Anna was a little "insurance policy" that Josh was better and let's just keep him better.  Get him a wife, some sex and get his head straight and things will be OK, right?     Right?  josh is gonna be OK, right?  he HAS to be Ok, right.  yeah, he will be just fine.  Look, he is doing fine.  Anna is a nice girl.  he will be fine.  This is just what he needed. yes, we are good. 

Jim Bob certainly thought that marrying young, to a sweet girl, might be what he needs to keep him out of trouble, ya know?  Jim Bob has a limited understanding of porn, sexual molestation etc.  Nothing a wife can't cure, right?  

In any event, poor Anna. This girl knew nothing. She never had a chance. Josh is a used car salesman and so is Jim Bob.  They sold her a lemon. 

[bigskygirl]

Josh and Anna remind me a little of my parents. My dad started drinking in his late teens/early 20s. My grandparents thought if he got married and had a family he would stop drinking. He was married to someone three years before he married my mom after dating my mom for three months. My mother's childhood was not pleasant at all. Her parents had to get married because my grandma was pregnant, and neither one of them were happy campers about the whole marriage and kids idea. Long story short, I really think my mother was hoping to find a man who would love her and give a stable relationship. Sadly, this did not happen, and three innocent children were brought into all ready disaster.

Do I feel bad for Anna? Yes, I do, but there are four innocent children who are suffering because Josh, Anna, and the grandparents are in denial city up to their noses. Getting married and having a family is not a cure especially for the Duggar offspring. A whole new generation to add into the Duggar craziness. Sad, sad, sad!!!

[Churchhoney]

23 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

If I could have known what I didn't know in my late teens and early 20s ...

...I would have been scared crapless. heh            In my case, it was much better not to know. In Anna's case -- too bad she didn't.

[CarolMK]

I have to wonder, does Anna really love Josh anymore, after all that has happened? Does she stay because she's telling herself that she must due to her faith and her love, but also has to convince herself that she still loves him? I really think this is a huge part of her struggle. I'm not sure she'll ever be able to feel the same way about him again as she did before the scandals. Will she stay by his side unhappy for the next 50 years and have another 6 kids? The thought of all that truly makes me ill. She might be the next Duggar to suffer a nervous breakdown, if she hasn't already.

[Arwen Evenstar]

17 minutes ago, CarolMK said:

I have to wonder, does Anna really love Josh anymore, after all that has happened? Does she stay because she's telling herself that she must due to her faith and her love, but also has to convince herself that she still loves him? I really think this is a huge part of her struggle. I'm not sure she'll ever be able to feel the same way about him again as she did before the scandals. Will she stay by his side unhappy for the next 50 years and have another 6 kids? The thought of all that truly makes me ill. She might be the next Duggar to suffer a nervous breakdown, if she hasn't already.

Anna already has changed from the happy bright girl to a younger version of a broken and stunned Michelle, with the different twist that you can tell that Boob loves his wife a lot more than Smuggar loves her. As odious as  Jim Bob is, I don't believe he has ever strayed from his wife. If he has, he ain't tellin'.

Anna can't even pretend she's happy. It's probably why we have not seen much of her. Since she's not going to be the poster child for the happy Gothard wifey thrilled to have such a sub par husband, no talking heads for her. I really felt bad for her for the talking heads she did last year. She was visibly broken and downtrodden. 

[Marigold]

57 minutes ago, CarolMK said:

I have to wonder, does Anna really love Josh anymore, after all that has happened? Does she stay because she's telling herself that she must due to her faith and her love, but also has to convince herself that she still loves him? I really think this is a huge part of her struggle. I'm not sure she'll ever be able to feel the same way about him again as she did before the scandals. Will she stay by his side unhappy for the next 50 years and have another 6 kids? The thought of all that truly makes me ill. She might be the next Duggar to suffer a nervous breakdown, if she hasn't already.

Good question.

I think Anna is in love with Josh from 8 years ago.  The Josh that she knew and loved from 2008.  Josh 2015 is not "her Josh" and she is stuck with Pervert Josh 2015.

I bet that is why Anna was so upbeat and optomistic when he was in the Pray It Away Camp.  She really believed Josh 2008 was going to return and they would be back to normal. She lost weight and was looking stylish with her long hair and (too much) eye make up.  She really believed that God would return sinful Josh to Josh 2008. 

 Unfortunately Josh 2015 returned home and she is miserable, unhappy and broken hearted. 

After writing that, I really do feel sorry for her. That's why she didn't leave.  She believed 6 months in a Christian environment would bring home Josh 2008.  How could it not work?  She has been taught her whole life that if you repent, you are a new creature in Christ.  So she waited patiently and we read she gave him that coming home party...all optomistic and proud of her husband for all his hard work to improve himself.  Well, reality sucks now. Josh is not a new creature but the same old disgusting creature.  Ugh. No wonder she has gained weight and looks sad. You never know, she might leave after one day when she is sick of Josh 2015. 

 

Edit to add: She was broken in those TH specials but she still had an optomistic tone to her... I bet she is in much worse shape. 

Edited October 4, 2016 by Marigold

[BitterApple]

I agree with the above comments. If I had Anna's life I'd be eating my feelings too.

[Absolom]

I think that may well be it.  She was sold on the bill of goods that Josh would be reborn and he wasn't.  Hopefully she won't be as easily fooled next time he messes up and she'll know there is no way for him to return to what she wants.  Then she'll be more free to dump him.

[drafan]

Nope, still not feeling sorry for her.....1) She could leave...she's been given the opportunity. 2) She was the one with continual "baby fever" ...she chose to have all those kids with him. 3) She likes the lifestyle.

I only feel sorry for the Mkids for being under the Duggar thumb, just as I feel sorry for all the under-18 Jkids. Once they come of age and stick around and abide by the stupid rules, nope, no more sympathy.

[BitterApple]

22 minutes ago, drafan said:

Nope, still not feeling sorry for her.....1) She could leave...she's been given the opportunity. 2) She was the one with continual "baby fever" ...she chose to have all those kids with him. 3) She likes the lifestyle.

 

From what I've seen of these women, they're insanely competitive in the husband and baby department. If their guy buys them a bottle of water they're selling it all over Instagram with #besthusbandever, #heknowswhatineed, #sospoiledlol or whatever inane hashtags they can come up with. I wonder if part of Anna's depression is due to the fact that she's pretty much outside that circle now. She can't hold her "I's married" status over the spinsters anymore because everyone knows her husband is a child molester and a cheat. Now that the Duggar girls are breeding, her kids have become obsolete. There was probably a huge loss of identity for Anna when Joshgate 1 hit the fan. I agree she likes the lifestyle, the problem is her current situation doesn't mesh with her lifestyle's ideals and it never will. 

Edited October 5, 2016 by BitterApple

[CarolMK]

In addition to Anna being unhappy, it's very likely that Josh just isn't into her anymore, or at least the way he was back in 2008. It is so hard for people to change, he may never be able to get to where he was when they first married. Also, now that they are very likely living away from the Duggar household, maybe Anna is more depressed because when she was around all of the rest of the family, it was a distraction and company for her and the kids. If it's just her and Josh and their kids at home now, things can't ever be the same again. 

I wouldn't be surprised if Josh is the one to eventually file for divorce. It may not be until his parents aren't here anymore, but I don't think Josh and Anna will be married forever. He's eventually going to do something stupid again.