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A chance to make a dance DVD could be undermined by the performance of Whitney's backup dancers.  Meanwhile, Whitney's trainer is disappointed with her lack of commitment; and Glenn says Allister's days may be numbered.

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Given Whitney can only stand on her feet for about 15 minutes and is limited in her movements, it won't be the fault of her backup dancers. Unless, like most dancers in her class, they are a lot better than her and make her look bad.

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If we aren't allowed to discuss the preview of this episode here, please let me know. 

Something has really been bothering me about the whole 'pig is humping Whitney' preview, aside from the obvious that no one wants to see that. Obviously they are going for the connection that a pig is humping a 'pig'. Whitney has agreed to this. So we now have to add another caveat to her 'no body shaming'. No one can say ANYTHING to her regarding her weight, even if it's just to show concern about her health. It is upsetting to Whitney and brings on the tears and depression. However, she can choose to be the brunt of an offensive pig joke that most people would view as being over the line as long as it pads her pocket. Frankly, her being willing to do that for money makes me really care a lot less about her feelings getting hurt when people make fun of her. 

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I am betting she knows EXACTLY how she is being portrayed onscreen...and doesn't care.  It's all about the money.  The more disgusting the show is, maybe they figure more viewers will tune to just to be grossed out.  I don't feel bad for her anymore. If she was so upset with this portrayal, then shut it down.

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On July 25, 2016 at 2:33 PM, 3girlsforus said:

If we aren't allowed to discuss the preview of this episode here, please let me know. 

Something has really been bothering me about the whole 'pig is humping Whitney' preview, aside from the obvious that no one wants to see that. Obviously they are going for the connection that a pig is humping a 'pig'. Whitney has agreed to this. So we now have to add another caveat to her 'no body shaming'. No one can say ANYTHING to her regarding her weight, even if it's just to show concern about her health. It is upsetting to Whitney and brings on the tears and depression. However, she can choose to be the brunt of an offensive pig joke that most people would view as being over the line as long as it pads her pocket. Frankly, her being willing to do that for money makes me really care a lot less about her feelings getting hurt when people make fun of her. 

I thought about this the day they got the pig. Since fat people are sometimes called pigs by the assholes of the world, I thought it was in poor taste and possibly a TLC setup. The mother of a pig gets another pig as a pet because she's empty nesting now that daughter pig moved out. That sounds very mean now that I typed it out but I am ashamed to admit that it went through my head and I was offended by my own thought. I'm going to hell.

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31 minutes ago, Nowhere said:

I thought about this the day they got the pig. Since fat people are sometimes called pigs by the assholes of the world, I thought it was in poor taste and possibly a TLC setup. The mother of a pig gets another pig as a pet because she's empty nesting now that daughter pig moved out. That sounds very mean now that I typed it out but I am ashamed to admit that it went through my head and I was offended by my own thought. I'm going to hell.

But that's kind of my point. You shouldn't have to be ashamed by your thought (and you aren't going to hell). Whitney agreed to this. The same person who claims that anyone who worries about her health is fat shaming agreed to televising herself being humped by a pig knowing full well people would make the pig association. TLC may have set it up, but Whitney would have had to agree. Since she agreed to do it, I don't feel sorry for her. 

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3 minutes ago, 3girlsforus said:

The same person who claims that anyone who worries about her health is fat shaming agreed to televising herself being humped by a pig knowing full well people would make the pig association. TLC may have set it up, but Whitney would have had to agree. Since she agreed to do it, I don't feel sorry for her. 

True, but poor Allister didn't sign up for this.  He didn't put his little hoof print on a contract. 

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9 minutes ago, 3girlsforus said:

But that's kind of my point. You shouldn't have to be ashamed by your thought (and you aren't going to hell). Whitney agreed to this. The same person who claims that anyone who worries about her health is fat shaming agreed to televising herself being humped by a pig knowing full well people would make the pig association. TLC may have set it up, but Whitney would have had to agree. Since she agreed to do it, I don't feel sorry for her. 

True that. They do sort of shove it into our minds and then turn it around like how dare you think such a thing. And definitely don't say it out loud. 

3 minutes ago, mamapajama said:

True, but poor Allister didn't sign up for this.  He didn't put his little hoof print on a contract. 

Awww! He's so cute! I want a hoof printed autograph picture of him.

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So I thought the pig was just brought on the show to be cute and funny for a "storyline."  And I have always had doubts that the pig actually lived with Babs and Glenn when they weren't filming.  And I thought the humping bit was just going to be there to amuse, and give a reason for why the pig won't be their pet anymore :)

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2 minutes ago, Eldemarge said:

I don't understand why Whit is harping on Maddie when it's pretty clear there was no preparation (rehearsals, script) for this dance video.  Got damn, she is unprofessional!

I find it hard to believe the routine wasn't choreographed, approved and rehearsed to death way before Whitney "auditioned" her back up dancers. In what world do you learn the steps for a exercise DVD as you're filming? I'm not sure what the point of this dvd was other than to show me that Whitney can't teach.

And it was really nice of Roy to sacrifice his dignity to play the jilted crush for Whitney. Your place in heaven awaits you.

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The dance teacher had to close up her "ballroom dancing" shoes for Whitney. You can't bend over to put on your own shoes and yet you're competing in a dance competition? How can no one there see the absolute absurdity of that? Then she complained that the dance teacher was hard on them. Please. 

Preview for next week ballroom event, she shows up in a giant tent dress with illusion mesh all in the front. Like a costume. Poser.

The crap in the car with Will. That was real, right? 

I just can't.

I seriously can't watch anymore. I'll just read a summary and go from there to here.

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Armpits and cat's breath-- she is gross, nothing to do with weight.  She is gross.

Todd and the helping with the dance shoes!  I love him now!  "You should be doing more leg lifts!"  She was pissed.

Pig pee and messing up Glenn's briefcase -- "Even if I could pick it up..."  (it is so much easier just to yell for Mom.)

She said her foot was wet after Allister's attentions.  Then we see her lounging on the parents' sofa with her feet all over it.  You just known she didn't wash first.  Because -- you know, effort.

She was loving the Hell out of judging the Big Girls for the DVD.  Of course Caitie wasn't chosen, for just the reason Todd mentioned.  (See why I love him!?!)  But Caitie would have shown up.  Mattie was chosen (love her, too,) because -- you know, extra points for having helped Twit out of her spandex, and keeping her lunch down at the pool.

Poor, poor Roy.  (I kinda love him, too.)

Sadly, having seen recent FB posts, I know Will takes Twit back.  I love him, too, even though he is way too picky when a client makes the better choice of the huge deli/bakery cookie, instead of what---a whole pie?

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I think the networks should bring back the telethon. PCOS is a monster and needs to be eradicated. I always thought I had to have the giant oatmeal raisin cookie from Panera Bread because I was a greedy ass, but now thanks to Whitney, I know it's because of PCOS. I would gladly pledge to have it stomped out.

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Well, of COURSE she was not going to choose Caitie. Can't have someone upstage her...

Roy has a crush on HER...uh, yeah.

Notice how she told Will that she has trouble with the fitness stuff because of her "job"? The one that only happens one day a week?

The "but I've been a good girl" cookie had me cracking up. "I only took a tiny bite of this ginormous cookie that I didn't need in the first place!"

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This "DVD" taping is so phony.  One dancer doesn't show up and Whitney isn't prepared?. Please.

She needs to stick with YouTube.  I've seen better "amateur" dance exercise videos there.

Roy.... You are a saint.  Pretending to hit on Vitney.

The ballroom dancing is going to come to a screeching halt.  She can't be bother to wear the correct shoes for more than "15 minutes" and can't even put her own shoes on.  

Oh poor Vitney, Will is picking on you again?. I mean 4 pounds a month easily means you are gaining close to 50 pounds a month.  If she thinks we are supposed to feel sorry for you, I have news for her.

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9 minutes ago, Eldemarge said:

She literally got caught with a giant cookie in her hand and she's crying because he "doesn't believe in her."  

*LOL* I was trying to figure out... so why should be proud of her? Because she bought only one massive cookie? or because she had only eaten a little bit so far?

I also gagged looking at the bottom of her truck floor. So you have milky coffee beverages just sitting in a hot car? Are you that pathetic and lazy you can't empty the trash from your car?

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I'd bet $100 that that bag originally had 2 cookies in it.  When Will came out to the car, I was thinking that the producers had just made him come out because she was crying in the car.  Then when he caught all the garbage - hilarious!  And he gave me a much needed kick in the pants about being prepared with food choices before I am starving - thanks, Will!  My DVR always cuts off the  previews but it looks like she goes crying to Tal and he is going to give her another dose of reality and agree with Will - I really hope that after the tears and self-pity comes a new understanding and motivation for her.

Since she twice mentioned her "dance career" without irony, I was glad that Will pointed out that her behaviors are not fostering said dance career.  If you can't wear the shoes for more than 15 minutes and the idea of a 20 minute video fills you with relief because you "should be able to do it", that's a sign you should be looking for a new career.  Seriously now - "I'm always looking for ways to further my dance career; I feel like it's been stagnant for a while."  I bet the only person laughing harder than me at some of tonight's BS is Caitie!  :)

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40 minutes ago, Eldemarge said:

I don't understand why Whit is harping on Maddie when it's pretty clear there was no preparation (rehearsals, script) for this dance video.  Got damn, she is unprofessional!

That's what I don't understand. 1) The videos are such a big deal to her, but she doesn't plan a script or seem to have any idea of how they should go.  2) She wants to do all this physical stuff, but doesn't make the connection between not doing as Will has asked (I'd be ashamed to have that much trash in my car) and being able to move more freely and have more stamina. And if I saw this grown woman cry and sniffle another time in an effort to excuse what she's done, I'm gonna go down South and smack her one myself. Grow up! If you don't want to diet and work out, fine, just shut up when you say you do and people call you on your lies.

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3 minutes ago, aliya said:

And if I saw this grown woman cry and sniffle another time in an effort to excuse what she's done, I'm gonna go down South and smack her one myself. Grow up! If you don't want to diet and work out, fine, just shut up when you say you do and people call you on your lies.

Aliya, I'll drive North, and meet you there.  I'm bringing some damned kleenex, because I am weary of seeing her wipe her eyes on shirt, paper towel and (gag) wrinkled lint-covered comforter.

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OT: Preview commercial for "First Kiss" and now some new soft porn Tyler Perry show. Tlc is almost unwatchable with how they bombard during every commercial break with their previews. That "Yeeeaahhhh" thing they play for First kiss - can't get to the remote fast enough.

Whole channel is obnoxious. Whitney is right at home.

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When Lauren at the radio station accused Roy of having a crush on Whitney, his response of "No, no I don't!" had the ring of total, desperate truth.

Did I hear right? Did Whitney really say Lennie wanted to hit her when she insisted on shoving her face into his armpit to smell it? Seriously? There is something wrong with both of these people.

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41 minutes ago, mamapajama said:

Aliya, I'll drive North, and meet you there.  I'm bringing some damned kleenex, because I am weary of seeing her wipe her eyes on shirt, paper towel and (gag) wrinkled lint-covered comforter.

I will go with you. Two "mamas" are better than one! 

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The armpit thing is weird and creepy. I'm kind of with Yukon on that.

Todd, quit helping her do shit. You're the one directing class. I don't wear heels because of a pretty serious ankle injury, but I can fit into my shoes and put them on myself.

Why the hell was the pig in a room with carpet? She didn't even try to pick anything up. Sorry, but if the damn thing isn't housebroken it shouldn't be in a room with carpet. Stick the thing in a bathroom so you just have to mop the floor.

Whitney thinks she's a Queen Bee. She's never going to let Catie win anything to make sure that Catie knows who's in charge. You are too old for this high school mean girl routine. Todd called her on it but of course not to her face.

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Just now, mamadrama said:

I will go with you. Two "mamas" are better than none! 

Heck yeah!  Let's pick up kleenex, more of those little containers she loves so much, socks for her to wear while visiting Allister, shampoo, ...oh, mamadrama, you might not want to go with me.  I'm not as nice as I should be.

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I think the  back up dancer (Jessica)  not showing up was producer driven.  I know there are rude people out there that wouldn't bother calling Whit to tell her they weren't coming but I don't see it with this group. How convenient Jessica answered her text immediately. Maybe Whit should have planned ahead by having an alternate. I'm sure she loved that Todd moved himself to the back row.  This is trivial, but wouldn't you think they would have worn coordinated shirts with black pants to look more put together? Instead they looked like three people that were pulled off the street.

 

 

 

 

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I am tired of hearing her talk about her anxiety, like she has more to deal with than any human alive. I know a woman like that and she and Whitney have so much in common, personality-wise. Constant talk of being a victim. Constant excuses for why they can't handle things everyone else can handle. Constantly complaining about people who refuse to make her needs their only priority. Constantly patting herself on the back for doing regular, everyday things. None of this is a function of her weight. It's a function of her dysfunctional personality and laziness. 

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Dear Will,

I'm a big girl who wants to get in shape and lose some weight. I promise to commit to your program. Now that you've dumped Vitney, can you please move to Mobile, Alabama and train me? I even swear that I'll send you photos of everything I eat. I've already cut all drinks other than water and I don't smoke. I may cry on occasion, but I'll keep working.

Me

Three photographs in a month and a half. Good lord she's a crybaby and a professional victim.

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ETA my post: I'm watching show again & realize they don't look as bad as I remembered re: their shirts.  I guess since they acted disheveled, I thought their clothes were too. Boy that producer looked pissed, like he was second guessing his choice of Whit & Company.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

I find it hard to believe the routine wasn't choreographed, approved and rehearsed to death way before Whitney "auditioned" her back up dancers. In what world do you learn the steps for a exercise DVD as you're filming? I'm not sure what the point of this dvd was other than to show me that Whitney can't teach.

Someone else mentioned the DVD taping was phony and that's exactly what it was. Whitney posted this link to a preview of her DVDs and they are way more professional and put together than today's episode portrayed. PLUS Caitie was in them too! 

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It was an hour of Whitney being horrible about everything and to everyone.

Note to Will:  If you take Whitney back before she admits she has serious mental problems and a food addiction, you too are an enabler.Keep your integrity and send her on her way to KFC. Yes, those were side order containers from KFC.

The episode should of been called "Caught with a Big Ass Cookie"      or Drive-thru Debris

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The stuff with Will just proves, yet again, that Whitney doesn't really want to change.  She randomly blows off training sessions (maybe she actually calls and cancels; either way, what disregard for Will's time) under the guise of having so much on her plate.  One day a week as a radio intern and a couple of dance classes and...what else?  Most people work 40 hours a week and, if they are committed to getting in shape, make time for the gym.  We all have the same number of hours in the week, but Whitney thinks hers are most intense, stressful, whatever.  And when called on her b.s. (ha) she predictably turns on the tears and wants to be congratulated for her poor choices. 

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1 hour ago, mamey2422 said:

Someone else mentioned the DVD taping was phony and that's exactly what it was. Whitney posted this link to a preview of her DVDs and they are way more professional and put together than today's episode portrayed. PLUS Caitie was in them too! 

I just don't see Dancing when Twit "dances".  It's LOTS of arm twirling and legs moving side to side- it's a big girl kinda sorta exercising.  She's delusional with this " dance career" crap.  Babs & Glen you have failed your special snowflake by feeding into her b^llshit.

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3 hours ago, mamapajama said:

Heck yeah!  Let's pick up kleenex, more of those little containers she loves so much, socks for her to wear while visiting Allister, shampoo, ...oh, mamadrama, you might not want to go with me.  I'm not as nice as I should be.

In the words of the wise Southern women of Steel Magnolias, if you can't say something nice then come sit by me!

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5 hours ago, seasons said:

OT: Preview commercial for "First Kiss" and now some new soft porn Tyler Perry show. Tlc is almost unwatchable with how they bombard during every commercial break with their previews. That "Yeeeaahhhh" thing they play for First kiss - can't get to the remote fast enough.

Whole channel is obnoxious. Whitney is right at home.

I have mastered the art of muting the TV when that commercial comes on.

EDIT: Also it's bad enough that this commercial comes on TLC practically every commercial break, but it even comes on Destination America and Discovery Life.

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I just had a thought...you know how a lot of reality shows are just reinactions of things that have happened to the person off camera or in the past? Is it possible that Lennie was hired to represent one of her former relationships so that we, the audience, can watch it play out? Could be why Glenn hemhawed when she said they were in love (uh, no Whit, it was JOE you loved...) and why she said he had a history of disappearing-when we have seen no indication of this...

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Todd hates Whitney lol.

Of all those awesome ass dancers, why the hell would Whitney pick Maddie?? Just because she's trans doesn't mean that she's a better dancer. I think Whit thinks it's cool to have a trans friend for her no body shame campaign, and that may be true, but that doesn't mean she was deserving of the position. Caitie at least would have been professional and actually shown up for the appointment and like Todd said, they would have gotten the video done in the first few takes rather than wasting everyone's time and money on a woman who can't tell her left from her right.

I hated how she sat behind the table acting like big shit when she knew who she would pick for the video anyway. The audition was pointless. 

Whitney wants to bang Roy so bad, she's fixin to dump Lenny. That may backfire.

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3 hours ago, DNR said:

I just don't see Dancing when Twit "dances".  It's LOTS of arm twirling and legs moving side to side- it's a big girl kinda sorta exercising.  She's delusional with this " dance career" crap.  Babs & Glen you have failed your special snowflake by feeding into her b^llshit.

I cringe every time she does that arm punch thing.  It's like she thinks that just because she puts so much animation into it that it means her dances are really intense.  I don't consider her a dancer either.  I have a 14 year old niece that would put her to shame.  Hell, I have an 8 year old niece that would put Whitney to shame.  The way I know that she doesn't really have a dance career is because she's not getting toned on any part of her body.  True dancers practice every single day.  Besides the occasional video, she's not doing any dancing outside of that class of hers that is probably only an hour long if that.

I also think it is so sad that Whitney thinks that just because some guy is nice to her that he automatically has a crush on her.  She reminds me of an ex friend of mine who thought that just because my dad said "Hi sweetie" and gave her a hug when we visited him and my mom one time that he was hitting on her.  We were in our mid 30's at the time and my dad was in his 60's and I tried to tell her that he called all of my friends sweetie, but she insisted that he was in love with her.  Pissed me the f___ off!  That's why she's an ex friend.  Anyway, Whitney needs to stop being so overly touchy feely and over the top into other people's physical space all the time.  She thinks that crap is way cuter than it is.  In fact, it isn't cute at all.

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9 hours ago, Eldemarge said:

I don't understand why Whit is harping on Maddie when it's pretty clear there was no preparation (rehearsals, script) for this dance video.  Got damn, she is unprofessional!

I know, right? She gives them a video to practice at HOME.

That really backfired on her, didn't it?  Her jealousy of Caitie (However you spell her name!) was so immature. I was really surprised the dance partner, whose name escapes me,didn't call her on it.  Is EVERYONE (except Will) afraid to confront her??

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3 hours ago, Nowhere said:

Todd hates Whitney lol.

Of all those awesome ass dancers, why the hell would Whitney pick Maddie?? Just because she's trans doesn't mean that she's a better dancer. I think Whit thinks it's cool to have a trans friend for her no body shame campaign, and that may be true, but that doesn't mean she was deserving of the position. Caitie at least would have been professional and actually shown up for the appointment and like Todd said, they would have gotten the video done in the first few takes rather than wasting everyone's time and money on a woman who can't tell her left from her right.

I hated how she sat behind the table acting like big shit when she knew who she would pick for the video anyway. The audition was pointless. 

Whitney wants to bang Roy so bad, she's fixin to dump Lenny. That may backfire.

My thoughts on why she picked Maddie?  1. Because Maddie went to the pool with her and hung out -- they're besties.  And 2. Because Maddie poses absolutely no threat to her.  She can't be compared, and found lacking,  to Maddie.

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I threw up in my mouth several times during last night's show....first she says she loves smelling cat breath, then she liked the smell of Lenny's beard, now we find out she likes to smell people's armpits??? Disgusting and gag-worthy. (And I don't think Lennie was truly trying to 'hit' her when she tried to smell his armpits-not in a domestic violence way-but more of a "get the f*ck away from me/what the hell are you doing" kind of thing.)

No, Twit, Todd shouldn't 'just do it for you' are you f**king kidding me??? Lift your leg up on the bench and find a way to take your own damn shoes off!!! I loved it when Todd said Twit was really good at making excuses & this was the last time he was helping her with her shoes. Now I just hope he sticks to it.

Of course Twit wasn't going to choose Caitie for the video...we all saw that coming from a mile away. Twit was practically salivating during her little power-trip/dance judge moment. She was NOT going to miss a chance to stick it to Caitie and get some revenge for Caitie 'taking over' her class. (I'm not sure Maddie is the best dancer for the video, but she is sweet, and she certainly deserves some sort of reward for having to witness a close-up of Twit's crotch in the pool!!!)

Twit shows up for 60% of her workouts, sent in 3 photos of her meals in 6 weeks, gained 4 lbs in a month, eats dinner plate-sized cookies, and, from the garbage on the floor of her car, is eating tons of fast food & still drinking frappuccinos---and she thinks all of this is "better than zero percent"??? She was truly stunned when Will called her on all her crap and fired her.  We all KNEW the tears would be coming and the pity party would start. Thank goodness Will stuck to his guns & didn't budge, although I'm sure Twit will find a way to twist things and tell everyone Will was a big mean jerk and she is the victim-again.

Twit, Roy is a friendly guy. He's just being nice & making conversation (like a radio host does)...this does NOT mean he has a 'crush' on you!!! (What is she, twelve? I'm expecting her to have a friend pass him a note in the hallway.) Next week's preview shows her breaking up with Lennie, the guy she's madly in love with. That is obviously the next logical step when a male coworker is nice to you. (I find myself shaking my head more & more at the way Twit thinks.)

Allister humping Twit's leg??? Makes me laugh and feel nauseated at the same time. (OF COURSE she wasn't going to clean up the mess the pig made in that room or scrub the urine from the carpet---her cat shit on her couch and she just left it there!!!) Can you imagine what her house must smell like? Blech!!!

SO much more I want to say but it's early and I need caffeine.....

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