S02.E10: Bedtime Story

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As the Abbies descend upon the town, Theo is forced to make a decision that could seal humanity's fate.

[ottoDbusdriver]

Episode Description:

As the Abbies descend upon the town, Theo is forced to make a decision that could seal humanity's fate.

[ottoDbusdriver]

In the preview, it's interesting that Theo calls it an 'evacuation' -- it's not like they are going very far.  

Later in the preview you see the people in silver suits going through a glowing yellow portal.  Did Theo invite a time machine in his spare time ?  Because CJ never used any glowing portal when he exited/entered his cryo pod over and over 2000 years.  I wonder how the cryo process will affect all the fetuses of all the pregnant WP students.  Because according to last episode the combination of volcanic sand and sulphur compound gases kill all bacteria (it still doesn't explain how the bodies are preserved, because killing all bacteria in a body is actually a bad thing).

Then there's the question of the number of cryo pods in the mountain -- last episode they said they only had power for 500+ pods and half the population of WP would be left to their own devices.  Does this mean that Theo was the last person entombed in the cryo pods -- because that seems REALLY hard to believe ?  Only having a little over 1000 people in WP and a full 1/3 of them are students at WP seems utterly ridiculous.  No wonder they don't have any food.

Since the Abbies are aware of the mountain hideout, even if they lock up the mountain and everyone goes back into cryo, the Abbies will probably do everything in their power to get into the mountain and destroy them -- so this seems like a really bad plan.  Remember that the balcony doors in Pilcher's office weren't all that secure.

I will be disappointed if they kill Phlox (it certainly looks like John Billingsley appeared last episode as a concerned father with his family lining up outside the entrance to the mountain, though IMDB doesn't credit his appearance).

By the way, it was really prescient of Pilcher to preserve school buses for the future (you see Lucy yelling from a school bus window) -- considering that everything in WP is within walking distance, why would they preserve a school bus ?  That makes about as much sense as an ice cream truck.

And we see that Kerry survived her fight with Jason, and she seems pretty calm and collected considering she just recently found out that she's been banging her son for the past 3 years.  She must have looked at the file folders in the room after her fight with Jason and all the weird questions he had for her.

CJ has a machine gun -- why haven't they been using these to mow down all the Abbies outside the fence ?  Is anyone actually watching the fence ?  Because no one seems to be on the lookout for another dead Abbie ramp -- which means the Abbies have been holding back for the last several days until they get the go ahead from Margaret.  So what have they been eating ?  Or drinking. They burned all the vegetables planted outside the fence and there probably isn't a whole lot of game outside the fence with that many Abbies around. 

Edited July 24, 2016 by ottoDbusdriver
To correct typos

[riverheightsnancy]

Ooohh look, Margaret is wearing the off-the-shoulder, asymmetrical style so popular at this year's fashion week! Why does Margret look like she has on eyeliner?

[raven]

The abbies haven't attacked yet?  No riots at the pods yet? What is everyone waiting for?  Ugh.

Oh here're some riots now!  The abbies should just wait and let everyone kill each other.

Edited July 28, 2016 by raven

[ottoDbusdriver]

Apparently Jason isn't dead yet.  He's bleeding pretty bad as Theo preps him for surgery, but Kerry is just fine.

Margaret lets out a scream and all the Abbies scatter to attack -- it's gotta be telepathy, because it didn't sound like she was providing directions.

One Abby heads out to a nearby valley, and you see 10s of thousands of Abbies -- and he calls them.

The towns folk prepare to leave their homes and head into the mountain.

Theo pulls out the bullet, and Jason starts crashing -- and after very little attempt to keep him alive, they pronounce him dead.
Hurray, Jason is finally dead.

Theo gives a speech from the front steps of WP hospital, and lies to the crowd that they will all be safe.  And tries to be inspirational.  Comes off rather bland, and the crowd is rather indifferent, there doesn't really seem to be any tension because there is an army of Abbies outside the fence.  None at all.

One of the interns catches Theo in an operational error, and Theo confirms he did all he could.

Which turns Arlene's horniness up to 11 and she confronts him, and tells him that she will see "him in the mountains".

And the same intern figures out there was something odd that Kerry and Jason both had the same rare blood type.  Makes the intern go hmmmmmm.

CJ gives Theo the to-do list since Theo is now in control -- and they break down the list of who will be saved, and Theo can choose from binders full of women ... and men and children too.

Kerry and Theo discuss Jason's death, and Theo brings up the fact that there is now an opening in one of the pods.  And Theo tries to get Kerry to put the pieces together about Kerry's relationship with Jason -- and once Kerry figures it out she pukes.

Which harkens back to her comment last episode when she was taking with Pilcher about being abused by her father and brother, but no, they weren't "that twisted" when Pilcher asked who the father was.

Only residents with 'proper identification' can enter the pod room -- WTF ? -- as people line up inside the mountain to be processed, get medicals, and their shiny silver suits.

A father gets separated from his family during the pickups, but back at WPA almost everyone gets on the bus.  And a small group gets left behind, and question why they were left behind.

Frank rushes from WPA to be with his sister Lucy, but gets punched nearly unconscious for his troubles.  I bet the rest of Group 2 hope they don't get the same treatment.

Rebecca gets picked up, but not Xander -- I guess that pregnancy paid off with a ticket to the mountain.

Back from commercial, Rebecca protests that she won't go without Xander.  But she doesn't want to be alone ..... again.
Xander promises he will be there for her wherever and whenever -- he's good as dead.

They are really dragging out Rebecca's departure -- are they not aware this is the season, and probably series, finale ?

CJ sits down and discusses philosophy with Theo -- about saving humanity.  CJ gets all profound and spiritual, but Theo's not buying it.

Meanwhile the Abbies are still running through the woods ... seriously, what are they waiting for ?

That soldier that got shot two episodes ago walks in the surveillance room in the mountain and sees a solid red mass of Abbies outside the fence.  And seems to be a little frightened by the sight.

As people wait to be picked as part of Group 2, they finally start to figure out, like Arlene, that they aren't coming for them.  And for some stupid reason they start rioting and prepping Molotov cocktails.  Why are they trashing the place ?  What exactly is that going to accomplish when there is an Abbie army on their front door ?  They should be tossing the molotovs over the fence.  All set to the strains of Tom Petty's "Won't Back Down".

And since the fence is not monitored at all, they should be building a dead Abby fence ramp post-haste.  Seriously, no one was watching the fence -- Jason really was a shitty leader.

Theo continues to examine a DNA strand -- and leaves a taped message, that Pilcher was wrong about everything.  And that the town he created really sucked.

And Theo plans to inject himself with 3 strains of virii, wait for the incubation period and allow himself to be consumed -- and infect the Abbies.  So that when the folks in the mountain wake up, the Abbies will be devastated and they will have a chance in a new and improved WP.

Oh nooeeeess !!! Trouble at the checkpoint -- what will they do ?  CJ whips out his machine gun and scares everyone away so Rebecca can enter.

Rebecca meets up with Lucy and they both wonder where their relatives are ?  About that.

Frank meets up with Xander who is enjoying an alcoholic beverage.  Frank asks what it was like outside the fence, and lets Frank take a drink.

Hurray, Pilcher's statue was pushed over and Theo runs into it with a jeep, and picks up Xander and Frank.

However, before they can drive away 2 rubes with a flaming molotov cocktail show up and demands the jeep -- so Theo shoots the molotov cocktail in the rube's hand and it sets him on fire.

As they get back to the checkpoint to the mountain, the crowd has completely dispersed but Arlene is there to give Theo a passive-aggressive fuck you for not telling her that she wouldn't be included.  But Theo has 2nd thoughts because of the dead soldier on the ground and offers his pod to Arlene.  Arlene thanks Theo by kissing him WAAAY too deeply, and they are off into the mountain.

As CJ , Xander, Frank and Arlene (who's putting her makeup on so she looks good when she wakes up) ride the elevator down into the mountain, they catch up with the processing line.  Xander rushes Rebecca, but the Rebecca spies Theo in the distance.

CJ gives Kerry a pep talk while she is standing in line, and says she deserves a fresh start -- but Kerry says one was enough and leaves the line.

Rebecca joins Theo in Pilcher's office -- and Theo says that the future needs ice cream in reference to Xander.  Rebecca says that Theo can save the town.

Theo goes down to the lab -- and Kerry appears from the shadows playing Theo's tape recorder.  It turns out Kerry stole Theo's plan and has injected herself with the viruses.   Theo gives her a vial of morphine to inject before she goes outside the fence.

Kerry is convinced the future won't miss her since she is just a girl from Idaho.

CJ and Theo discuss the final power shutdown -- and then Theo gives yet another speech to inspire the remaining WPers.  As Kerry heads toward the fence.

Interesting ... CJ and Theo are the only 2 not in silver suits.  Hmmm.  What's up with that ?

Finally the power starts to go out in WP and inside the mountain.    Meanwhile the husband who's family was taken away finishes painting his front porch and hangs himself.

All the pods close up and the cryo process begins.  Including Theo.

Meanwhile Margaret sits there and watches her army -- and does nothing.

CJ sets to terminate everyone in the pods -- and for some reason starts to see his long dead wife.  But decides not to kill everyone.  Yawn, like it was ever going to go the other way.  Will CJ wake up every 20 years again as well ?

Kerry walks outside the fence -- and there's no Abbies.  But as the door in the fence closes, we hear the sound of Abbies and flesh ripping.

Fade to black.  And we see a herd of Abbies much like the opening scene of S2 with a new born baby that for some reason -- looks completely normal.  

That makes no fucking sense -- so are the Abbies mutating back to being human.  WTF ?  

Did the viruses Kerry spread make them revert back ?  In who knows how much time has passed ? 

This is way too stupid even for this show.

All that bullshit with Margaret -- and nothing at all happened with her.  Nothing.

Edited July 30, 2016 by ottoDbusdriver
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[Primetimer]

Stare into Djimon Hounsou's lycra-wrapped pecs and think of the future.

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[grandemocha]

Hmm...so the ending is supposed to indicate that humanity has swung back around to producing more humans vs abbies? But would the abbies even be rational enough to care for the babies that look human? 

[Quickbeam]

I'm confused. Is it over or will there be a season 3?

[ParadoxLost]

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 0:52 PM, ottoDbusdriver said:

Since the Abbies are aware of the mountain hideout, even if they lock up the mountain and everyone goes back into cryo, the Abbies will probably do everything in their power to get into the mountain and destroy them -- so this seems like a really bad plan.  Remember that the balcony doors in Pilcher's office weren't all that secure.

I don't even think the Abbies are the immediate problem in this situation.

What is to stop the people left behind from deciding that they are more deserving to survive and breaching the mountain and try to take the pods of the people that weren't woken and they don't know or the neighbor they never liked.  That they don't know how to work the pods is an afterthought after they ruin the plan.

[raven]

Oops, had no idea this was the season end.

Yay, Jason's dead, and yay, probably Kerry too.  Arlene lives!

But yeah, all that build up with Margaret for nothing.

3 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

What is to stop the people left behind from deciding that they are more deserving to survive and breaching the mountain and try to take the pods of the people that weren't woken and they don't know or the neighbor they never liked. 

I figure the pods are locked deep inside behind a few super steel doors.  If Pilcher can build the pods and the units to run them and preserve Nazi uniforms, school buses, etc. apparently he can secure the pods.  Plus the abbies will kill everyone left.

So they will sleep forever because I doubt we get a S3.

[ottoDbusdriver]

4 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

I don't even think the Abbies are the immediate problem in this situation.

What is to stop the people left behind from deciding that they are more deserving to survive and breaching the mountain and try to take the pods of the people that weren't woken and they don't know or the neighbor they never liked.  That they don't know how to work the pods is an afterthought after they ruin the plan.

But once the power went down and the fence was no longer electrified, the Abbies should have been swarming WP for a heaping helping of manwiches (and womanwiches).

Where were the other 500+ people when the power started shutting down ?  Aside from that guy painting his house, WP was empty.  Where did they go ?

[Free]

22 minutes ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

Apparently Jason isn't dead yet.  He's bleeding pretty bad as Theo preps him for surgery, but Kerry is just fine.

Margaret lets out a scream and all the Abbies scatter to attack -- it's gotta be telepathy, because it didn't sound like she was providing directions.

One Abby heads out to a nearby valley, and you see 10s of thousands of Abbies -- and he calls them.

The towns folk prepare to leave their homes and head into the mountain

Theo pulls out the bullet, and Jason starts crashing -- and after very little attempt to keep him alive, they call him dead.
Hurray, Jason is finally dead.

Theo gives a speech from the front steps of WP hospital, and lies to the crowd that they will all be safe.  And tries to be inspirational.  Comes off rather bland, and the crowd is rather indifferent, there doesn't really seem to be any tension because there is an army of Abbies outside the fence.  None at all.

One of the interns catches Theo in an operational error, and Theo confirms he did all he code.

Which turns Arlene's horniness up to 11 and she confronts him, and tells him that she will see "him in the mountains".

And same intern figures out there was something odd that Kerry and Jason both had the same rare blood type.  Makes the intern go hmmmmmm.

CJ gives Theo the to-do list since Theo is now in control -- and they break down the list of who will be saved, and Theo can choose from binders full of women ... and men and children too.

Kerry and Theo discuss Jason's death, and Theo brings up the fact that there is now an opening in one of the pods.  And Theo tries to get Kerry to put the pieces together about Kerry's relationship with Jason -- and once Kerry figures it out she pukes.

Which harkens back to her comment last episode when she was taking with Pilcher about being abused by her father and brother, but no, they weren't "that twisted" when Pilcher asked who the father was.

Only residents with 'proper identification' can enter the pod room -- WTF ? -- as people line up inside the mountain to be processed, get medicals, and their shiny silver suits.

A father gets separated from his family during the pickups, but back at WPA almost everyone gets on the bus.  And a small group gets left behind, and question why they were left behind.

Frank rushes from WPA to be with his sister Lucy, but gets punched nearly unconscious for his troubles.  I bet the rest of Group 2 hope they don't get the same treatment.

Rebecca gets picked up, but not Xander -- I guess that pregnancy paid off with a ticket to the mountain.

Back from commercial, Rebecca protests that she won't go without Xander.  But she doesn't to be alone ..... again.
Xander promises he will be there for her wherever and whenever -- he's good as dead.

They are really dragging out Rebecca's departure -- are they not aware this is the season, and probably series, finale.

CJ sits down and discusses philosophy with Theo -- about saving humanity.  CJ gets all profound and spiritual, but Theo's not buying it.

Meanwhile the Abbies are still running through the woods ... seriously, what are they waiting for ?

That soldier that got shot two episodes walks in the surveillance room in the mountain and sees a solid red mass of Abbies outside the fence.  And seems to be a little frightened by the sight.

As people wait to be picked as part of Group 2, they finally start to figure out, like Arlene, that they aren't coming for them.  And for some stupid reason they start rioting and prepping Molotov cocktails.  Why are they trashing the place ?  What exactly is that going to accomplish when there is an Abbie army on their front door ?  They should be tossing the molotovs over the fence.  All set to the strains of Tom Petty's "Won't Back Down"

And since the fence is not monitored at all, they should be building a dead Abby fence post-haste.  Seriously, no one was watching the fence -- Jason really was a shitty leader.

Theo continues to examine a DNA strand -- and leaves a taped message, that Pilcher was wrong about everything.  And that the town he created really sucked.

And Theo plans to inject himself with 3 strains of virii, wait for the incubation period and allow himself to be consumed -- and infect the Abbies.  So that when the folks in the mountain wake up, the Abbies will be devastated and they will have a chance in a new and improved WP.

Oh nooeeeess !!! Trouble at the checkpoint -- what will they do ?  CJ whips out his machine gun and scares everyone away so Rebecca can enter.

Rebecca meets up with Lucy and they both wonder where they relatives are ?  About that.

Frank meets up with Xander who is enjoying an alcoholic beverage.  Frank asks what it was like outside the fence, and lets Frank take a drink.

Hurray, Pilcher's statue was pushed over and Theo runs into it with a jeep, and picks up Xander and Frank.

However, before they can drive away 2 rubes with a flaming molotov cocktail show up and demands the jeep -- so Theo shoots the molotov cocktail in the rubes hand and it sets him on fire.

As they get back to the checkpoint to the mountain, the crowd has completely dispersed by Arlene is there to give Theo a passive-aggressive fuck you for not telling her that she wouldn't be included.  But Theo has 2nd thoughts because of the dead soldier on the ground and offers his pod to Arlene.  Arlene thanks Theo by kissing him WAAAY too deeply, and they are off into the mountain.

As CJ , Xander, Frank and Arlene (who's putting her makeup on so she looks good when she wakes up) ride the elevator down into the mountain, they catch up with the processing line.  Xander rushes Rebecca, but the Rebecca spies Theo in the distance.

CJ gives Kerry a pep talk while she is standing in line, and says she deserves a fresh start -- but Kerry says one was enough and leaves the line.

Rebecca joins Theo in Pilcher's office -- and Theo says that the future need ice cream in reference to Xander.  Rebecca says that Theo can save the town.

Theo goes down to the lab -- and Kerry appears from the shadows playing Theo's tape recorder.  It turns out Kerry stole Theo's plan and has injected herself with the viruses.   Theo gives her a vial of morphine to inject before she goes outside the fence.

Kerry is convinced the future won't miss her since she is just a girl from Idaho.

CJ and Theo discuss the final power shutdown -- and then Theo gives yet another speech to inspire the remaining WPers.  As Kerry heads toward the fence.

Interesting ... CJ and Theo are the only 2 not in silver suits.  Hmmm.  What's up with that ?

Finally the power starts to go out in WP and inside the mountain.    Meanwhile the husband who's family was taken away finishes painting his front porch and hangs himself.

All the pods close up and the cryo process begins.  Including Theo.

Meanwhile Margaret sits there and watches her army -- and does nothing.

CJ sets to terminate everyone in the pods -- and for some reason starts to see his long dead wife.  But decides not to kill everyone.  Yawn, like it was ever going to go the other way.  Will CJ wake up every 20 years again as well ?

Kerry walks outside the fence -- and there's no Abbies.  But as the door in the fence closes, we hear the sound of Abbies and flesh ripping.

Fade to black.  And we see a herd of Abbies much like the opening scene of S2 with a new born baby that for some reason -- looks completely normal.  

That makes no fucking sense -- so are the Abbies mutating back to being human.  WTF ?  

Did the viruses Kerry spread make them revert back ?  In who knows how much time has passed ? 

This is way too stupid even for this show.

All that bullshit with Margaret -- and nothing at all happened with her.  Nothing.

What a complete waste of time, we didn't even get the satisfying Abbies attacking the morons.  Nothing important happened at all, they just had a bunch of retconning flashbacks and killed off S1 characters for nothing.

The only good thing was Jason dying and everyone just letting it happen.

11 minutes ago, raven said:

Oops, had no idea this was the season end.

Yay, Jason's dead, and yay, probably Kerry too.  Arlene lives!

But yeah, all that build up with Margaret for nothing.

I figure the pods are locked deep inside behind a few super steel doors.  If Pilcher can build the pods and the units to run them and preserve Nazi uniforms, school buses, etc. apparently he can secure the pods.  Plus the abbies will kill everyone left.

So they will sleep forever because I doubt we get a S3.

It shouldn't have gotten a S2, this ending was somehow even worse than last season's nonsense.

[ottoDbusdriver]

6 minutes ago, Free said:

It shouldn't have gotten a S2, this ending was somehow even worse than last season's nonsense.

It should have been a one and done, but the ratings were 'so awesome' they decided to do S2 after burning through all the original book material in S1.

Instead for the S2 finale

Spoiler

they used the original book ending for the S2 finale, but at least they didn't use the epilogue where Ethan Burke woke up from his pod 70000 years later.  
That's not a typo -- in the original books, Pilcher invented a power source that lasted for 70000 years.

[Free]

15 minutes ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

It should have been a one and done, but the ratings were 'so awesome' they decided to do S2 after burning through all the original book material in S1.

Instead for the S2 finale

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they used the original book ending for the S2 finale, but at least they didn't use the epilogue where Ethan Burke woke up from his pod 70000 years later.  
That's not a typo -- in the original books, Pilcher invented a power source that lasted for 70000 years.

Even so, the ending wasn't worth it, it was just a pointless waste of time that went nowhere.

[Kromm]

Sad that Alex Zeidel sat through Voyager and Enterprise but never saw the far superior (to either of those) Deep Space 9.

[LittleIggy]

Theo said the incubation time for the viruses was 13 hours, didn't he? It didn't look as if Kerry waited any time at all to go outside. What happened to Grizzly Adams whom Margaret let live? Did he mate with an Abby hence the baby? Why hadn't they injected those captured Abbys with the viruses and sent them out a long time ago? 

[juliet73]

18 minutes ago, LittleIggy said:

Theo said the incubation time for the viruses was 13 hours, didn't he? It didn't look as if Kerry waited any time at all to go outside. What happened to Grizzly Adams whom Margaret let live? Did he mate with an Abby hence the baby? Why hadn't they injected those captured Abbys with the viruses and sent them out a long time ago? 

I was going to ask the exact same questions!  Also, why did they need to show ID? Isn't all their info listed on their pods along with their pic? Why does WP have license plates?  Where did they get them?  Is there a DMV? Why did I waste 10 hours of my life for this sh!t? Is Jason Patric going to fire his agent?  So many questions and no answers. 

[Dowel Jones]

3 hours ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

Finally the power starts to go out in WP and inside the mountain.

I wonder why the lights would go out sequentially.  Every time my town loses power, everything goes dark as one. 

I liked Kerry's response to Doc's "He was a tyrannical moron."  To which Kerry says "He wasn't a tyrant."  That clarifies things.

1 hour ago, juliet73 said:

Is there a DMV?

Now that would have been the perfect solution to saving WP.  "Form a line here, Abbies, and fill out these forms for your Official Wayward Pines Identity Cards.  You must have them to enter the town.  Please be patient."

So, I am to understand that all the Junior Nazis made it into the pods?  After all the crap the townspeople endured at their hands, I would have thought there would have been widespread elimination of pod spaces to make room for more ordinary folks.  But then again, these clods have been so brainwashed, anything is possible.

[OoogleEyes]

6 hours ago, juliet73 said:

I was going to ask the exact same questions!  Also, why did they need to show ID? Isn't all their info listed on their pods along with their pic? Why does WP have license plates?  Where did they get them?  Is there a DMV? 

Why did those morons need the jeep? Where were they going? Why were people bringing *suitcases* to the pods?

[Johnny Dollar]

My guess is that Kerry was not eaten but was installed as the new queen (Queen K) and birthed a new generation of Kerry/Abbie hybrids I like to call Kabbies. Kerry will use the flesh of killed humans to create a sustainable food source that will ward off all form of disease and pestilence. They shall be called Kabbie Patties. 

[riverheightsnancy]

Why do they need silver suits to go in the pods? If it is to protect their skin for some unknown reason, wouldn't they have to cover everything? Hands, heads, faces, eyelids? I thought in season one, people went into the pods in regular clothes, but I am not going back to check! On the sunny side, after watching this, it makes watching Fear The Walking Dead practically enjoyable!  

[Free]

9 hours ago, LittleIggy said:

Theo said the incubation time for the viruses was 13 hours, didn't he? It didn't look as if Kerry waited any time at all to go outside. What happened to Grizzly Adams whom Margaret let live? Did he mate with an Abby hence the baby? Why hadn't they injected those captured Abbys with the viruses and sent them out a long time ago? 

It just keeps on opening new plot holes.

[Jeffurry]

11 hours ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

And same intern figures out there was something odd that Kerry and Jason both had the same rare blood type.  Makes the intern go hmmmmmm.

 

It made me go hmmmmmm too because that's not how blood types work.

[shrewd.buddha]

For three episodes we have been watching the Abbies gather outside WP and preparing to attack. All those menacing red dots on the monitors.. Then they got their leader back (Margret?), who decided her hospital gown was worth keeping, and she whipped the Abbies into a frenzy .. of more waiting.. There was a lot of howling and running .. but for what? Theo, Jason, CJ and everyone else says "We don't know how much time we have before the Abbies attack!" "It could be at any moment!" "Any time now..." "Still waiting for that attack .. " "Everyone should start panicking, looting, forming mobs and  shooting one another because that Abbie attack is surely about to happen!"   
... Then Kerry opens the gate and there are no Abbies on the other side. Ugh. 

The Frank and Lucy stuff was an annoying waste of time. Why do they always do the opposite of what they should be doing when a crisis starts? Why did they go back to the school after they ignored orders and ran to the town in the last episode? 

Was Theo in charge after Jason died? (..allowed to die by Jason) If not, who was in charge? Why did the soldiers, the townspeople, Rebecca and Xander, etc. act as if they were being forced to follow someone's orders during the evacuation?

The only entertainment value this show had for me was its ridiculousness - such as how people would appear in places just because they needed to be in a certain scene even tho it made no sense for them to be there. 
The people who chose the WP residents back in the 21st century  did a horrible job, considering how easily they became angry mobs of killers and looters. And looting for what reason, exactly? 

There was also the question of why Pilcher, and others, decided to play god in the first place. This twisted Nazi version of humanity certainly didn't deserve to survive into a future world. CJ should have listened to his ghost wife and just let nature take its course as it should have originally. 

Edited July 28, 2016 by shrewd.buddha

[OoogleEyes]

2 hours ago, Johnny Dollar said:

My guess is that Kerry was not eaten but was installed as the new queen (Queen K) and birthed a new generation of Kerry/Abbie hybrids I like to call Kabbies. Kerry will use the flesh of killed humans to create a sustainable food source that will ward off all form of disease and pestilence. They shall be called Kabbie Patties. 

Don't give the writers any ideas for a season 3!

[juliet73]

23 minutes ago, OoogleEyes said:

Don't give the writers any ideas for a season 3!

The writers don't read this board.  If they did,  this show would have been/could have so much better!  

Btw, the show hasn't "officially" been cancelled...

[Chaiboy]

If this show is not picked up for a 3rd season...maybe it should be offered to the BBC and they could do a spin-off and call it.........(wait for it) "Downton Abbies" ??

[Dowel Jones]

1 hour ago, shrewd.buddha said:

Then they got their leader back (Margret?), who decided her hospital gown was worth keeping, and she whipped the Abbies into a frenzy .. of more waiting.. There was a lot of howling and running .. but for what?

Reminds me of a certain political convention...

 

3 hours ago, OoogleEyes said:

Why were people bringing *suitcases* to the pods?

Wouldn't it make more sense (stop right there) to seal up the houses and belongings as best as possible, as they are presumably going to wake up in WP, however distant in the future.  Of course, there is always the possibility that the Abbies have settled down and taken over the town, ice cream parlor and all.  And don't forget the carousel.

[preeya]

Good Night, John Boy.    I'm out.

It's impossible to apply logic and common sense to this drivel. 

Edited July 28, 2016 by preeya

[SoothingDave]

Not only did we not see Kerry wait 13 hours before going outside the wall, there would have been no power to open and close the gate.  And she bothered to close the gate after she went through, too.

And the show just told us that Jason decided to keep all families with children intact, and then we cut to poor old dad not being in group 1 for evacuation.  Continuity much?

I figured the baby at the end was a hybrid of Abby and human from ol' Kessler, who went out the sewer pipe.  

[iMonrey]

Can there be any doubt whatsoever that they were making this whole season up on the fly as they went along? So many dropped plot points, and ideas raised and then discarded. WTF happened to Adam Hassler? 

Why did this episode keep cutting back to enormous swarms of Abbies doing basically nothing? Was it just meant to remind us they were all prepared to attack imminently? What was that odd structure they showed in the valley swarming with Abbies? It looked like some kind of crude tower. Did the Abbies have some sort of infrastructure? Why even show something like that when you're not going to explain it?

There were just so many things wrong with this show, they're too numerous to count. This one episode alone was filled with baffling oddities, such as:

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Only residents with 'proper identification' can enter the pod room -- WTF ?

I was laughing at that part too. Haven't you heard about the new, strict voter ID laws in Wayward Pines? You must have a photo ID and proof of citizenship. You know - just in case you're really a Mexican who snuck into Wayward Pines illegally are are trying to get into one of those pods.

The other thing that cracked me up was the people in line for the pods were snaked through one of those serpentine line barriers you see for carnival rides. Why on earth would they even have such a thing? Did they raid a Six Flags before they were put into cryogenic sleep 2000 years ago?

And then, when Theo rescued Xander and Frank and the hooligans with the Molotov cocktails stop them and say "We're going to need that jeep." Why? Where exactly did they think they were going? If they go to the mountain they won't get through the gate, and if they go outside the fence the Abbies will eat them. Then when Theo finally pulls up to the gate there's another jeep just sitting there unattended. So there were apparently plenty of vehicles just lying around for the taking, all over town.

God this was dumb.

[Ms Lark]

Postmortem from Blake Crouch (original author) on the finale and the last scene. Explains some stuff, but not really. Sounds like he's still hoping for a 3rd season, but not overly optimistic about it.

2 hours ago, Chaiboy said:

If this show is not picked up for a 3rd season...maybe it should be offered to the BBC and they could do a spin-off and call it.........(wait for it) "Downton Abbies" ??

Don't you mean Downtown Abbies? Since they'll be swarming downtown WP? (Snerk.)
 

2 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

You know - just in case you're really a Mexican who snuck into Wayward Pines illegally are are trying to get into one of those pods.

'Splains the wall, eh? Scary.

[Free]

38 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Can there be any doubt whatsoever that they were making this whole season up on the fly as they went along? So many dropped plot points, and ideas raised and then discarded. WTF happened to Adam Hassler? 

Why did this episode keep cutting back to enormous swarms of Abbies doing basically nothing? Was it just meant to remind us they were all prepared to attack imminently? What was that odd structure they showed in the valley swarming with Abbies? It looked like some kind of crude tower. Did the Abbies have some sort of infrastructure? Why even show something like that when you're not going to explain it?

There were just so many things wrong with this show, they're too numerous to count. This one episode alone was filled with baffling oddities, such as:

I was laughing at that part too. Haven't you heard about the new, strict voter ID laws in Wayward Pines? You must have a photo ID and proof of citizenship. You know - just in case you're really a Mexican who snuck into Wayward Pines illegally are are trying to get into one of those pods.

The other thing that cracked me up was the people in line for the pods were snaked through one of those serpentine line barriers you see for carnival rides. Why on earth would they even have such a thing? Did they raid a Six Flags before they were put into cryogenic sleep 2000 years ago?

And then, when Theo rescued Xander and Frank and the hooligans with the Molotov cocktails stop them and say "We're going to need that jeep." Why? Where exactly did they think they were going? If they go to the mountain they won't get through the gate, and if they go outside the fence the Abbies will eat them. Then when Theo finally pulls up to the gate there's another jeep just sitting there unattended. So there were apparently plenty of vehicles just lying around for the taking, all over town.

God this was dumb.

They've been running on empty since they've used up all the books last season so we ended up with a boring mess of a season that ended up going nowhere: S1 characters.

[Johnny Dollar]

I love Jason Patric's snarky, DGAF attitude much better than Matt Dillon's super seriousness last year. 

My hope is that season 3 opens with the Wayward Podsters waking up Under the Dome, where all manners of stupid, hackneyed hijinks and implausible storylines are allowed to take wing. 

[juliet73]

5 hours ago, Chaiboy said:

If this show is not picked up for a 3rd season...maybe it should be offered to the BBC and they could do a spin-off and call it.........(wait for it) "Downton Abbies" ??

I would so watch this!!  And instead of howling at each other,  they speak with British accents!  Pure awesomeness!!

[meep.meep]

"Meanwhile the husband who's family was taken away finishes painting his front porch and hangs himself."

I saw that paint brush and started hoping it was Kerry *finally* painting Pilcher's office!

[thuganomics85]

So.... that was the finale, huh?  Yeah, that was underwhelming.  After all the build-up, we don't even get to see Margaret gather the Abbies and raise some hell, almost all of the regulars (and Arlene!) are fine except Jason who is thankfully dead-dead and Kerry, who decided to sacrifice herself in order to infect all the Abbies (but didn't Theo say there was a 13 hour wait period?  Or am I just losing my damn mind?!), some of the lamest looting and riots ever (even freaking Containment had better ones), and CJ briefly considers just killing everyone?  I wasn't sure what was going on there.   Yawn.

I will say that I actually grew to kind of like Theo.  Jason Patric's snarkness and "Oh, come on!" reactions are probably only behind Billy Burke's in Zoos in the "Actor really can't believe they have to say this crap!" department.

If this somehow returns for a third season, then I have no idea where they will go from here.  Well, except they'll probably introduce a new cast, have this cast appear for an episode or two and then get killed off, and then Adam will just show up for no reason around the halfway point.

[Zanne]

3 hours ago, SoothingDave said:

I figured the baby at the end was a hybrid of Abby and human from ol' Kessler, who went out the sewer pipe.  

I thought maybe it was a sign of the 500+ abandoned Wayward Piners assimilating into the Abbie culture and interbreeding. Margaret seems tolerant when they're not shooting her or her kin. 

[mertensia]

7 hours ago, Jeffurry said:

It made me go hmmmmmm too because that's not how blood types work.

If the dad was AB negative too, though, wouldn't Jason have to be?

I love that Arlene got saved.

[iMonrey]

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After all the build-up, we don't even get to see Margaret gather the Abbies and raise some hell,

Well, we saw them gather the Abbies - they just never did anything but look up at her, and growl. Presumably, she was telling the "Get ready . . . get set . . . wait for it . . . wait for it . . . wait for it . . . " for the whole hour. 

[ottoDbusdriver]

5 hours ago, Ms Lark said:

Postmortem from Blake Crouch (original author) on the finale and the last scene. Explains some stuff, but not really. Sounds like he's still hoping for a 3rd season, but not overly optimistic about it.

That article with Blake Crouch explains very little.

Like how long after the mountain is closed up does that last scene occur -- the next day, 10000 years later, when ?  

And where were all the female Abbies -- because someone has to be cranking out the thousands of male Abbies outside the fence.  Yet we saw all of 1 female Abbie (Margaret) during the series and a 2nd female in that end scene.

[meep.meep]

The female Abbies are all discretely off screen because it would be too much to show that many boobies on a broadcast network at 9pm on a school night.

Were any characters (like people who had had lines in the other episodes) left in the town after the great nighty night?

[juliet73]

41 minutes ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

 

And where were all the female Abbies -- because someone has to be cranking out the thousands of male Abbies outside the fence.  Yet we saw all of 1 female Abbie (Margaret) during the series and a 2nd female in that end scene.

Maybe it's just Margaret and Michelle Duggar Abbie...

[ottoDbusdriver]

5 minutes ago, juliet73 said:

Maybe it's just Margaret and Michelle Duggar Abbie...

That's brilliant.

[Dowel Jones]

1 hour ago, meep.meep said:

The female Abbies are all discretely off screen because it would be too much to show that many boobies on a broadcast network at 9pm on a school night.

That, and they don't have that many hospital gowns to go around.  And nobody, but nobody, is going to answer an Abbie when she asks "Does this dress make my butt look big?"

[ottoDbusdriver]

Here's the one thing that bugs me about Theo recording that message on the tape recorder -- who would ever listen to it in the future ?

Would they even have batteries in the future to power it ? Let alone the fact it would degrade and be unusable relatively soon.

[KaveDweller]

5 hours ago, mertensia said:

If the dad was AB negative too, though, wouldn't Jason have to be?

I love that Arlene got saved.

If I am remembering my high school science right, two people who were AB could have a kid with type AB, A, and B. Your blood type comes from a combination of both your parents, you don't just match what one of them has. It sometimes works out that way, but it seemed like a weird way to convey proof of a mother/son relationship. 

3 hours ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

That article with Blake Crouch explains very little.

Like how long after the mountain is closed up does that last scene occur -- the next day, 10000 years later, when ?  

And where were all the female Abbies -- because someone has to be cranking out the thousands of male Abbies outside the fence.  Yet we saw all of 1 female Abbie (Margaret) during the series and a 2nd female in that end scene.

Yeah, I don't think that article really explained anything. Also, like my 8th grade English teacher said, if you have to explain your writing to a reader, you didn't do your job. Being ambiguous is one thing, but I just don't understand what the hell was going on in that final scene.

One other thing. Presumably, all 1,000 Abbies aren't going to eat Kerry. The ones closest to the gate will, but I don't think they'll be enough to go around. So how will they all get sick? Those aren't airborne viruses, are they?

[Johnny Dollar]

Best line of the whole series - after Jason dies because Theo "forgot" to drain the franistan tube thingy:

Theo (to Kerry) "Well, a pod just opened up."

[Ms Lark]

7 hours ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

And where were all the female Abbies -- because someone has to be cranking out the thousands of male Abbies outside the fence.  Yet we saw all of 1 female Abbie (Margaret) during the series and a 2nd female in that end scene.

Actually, I thought the female in the final scene was Margaret, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I was wondering where she got the kid. Who knows WTF is going on. If there's a 3rd season, and I seriously doubt there will be, they'll just pull something else out of their collective asses, fling it at the wall and see what sticks.