S06.E16: Hearing Is Believing

[zoeysmom]

Okay this episode was bordering on incomprehensible.

You would be on the side of Ronnie K.  it took a lot of work for him to break it down and a couple of very laugh out line moments. 

[zulualpha]

I thought Erika's talking head she was trying to make it sound as if she sent pictures of pieces she wanted to Tom's secretary and it was the secretary's job to show it to Tom and make it seem as if he bought her a gift on his own, but it was really something she wanted. 

 

I mean, I doubt if that's the case, who knows what the real deal is, but I laughed until I choked at the thought of her sending a picture of that "cunty" necklace to the secretary and him bringing it home in a nice gift box so proud of his taste in jewelry. hahaha

That was my husband's take on it when I told him.  Not that he gives a shit about any housewife or knows the first thing about any of them but he walked by my tv last night and saw Yolanda and said " is that the woman from House of Cards?".  I said, no but wait til you hear what this other broad just said and I told him what Erika said about not being allowed to buy jewelry.  He said it sounded to him like her husband wanted to be the one to gift her with the jewelry and if she picked it out herself he could be sure she really liked it.  Perfectly plausible.

[Avaleigh]

I do like it when Kyle and LisaV get along. I liked the scene of them giggling together over Yo and Rinna.

 

I agree that Brandi and Kim didn't go because they weren't getting paid. 

 

I'm disappointed in Eileen again. It was obvious to me that she was punishing Lisa by not going to the dog charity thing. 

 

Yolanda is so boring. I've never been so bored with a housewife before. 

 

Claire Underwood--spot on. 

 

I'm a dog lover and I'm glad that Lisa has brought attention to such a cruel "festival".

 

I'm more than ready to get to Dubai already. The best thing about Dubai is that it will be Yolanda free.  

Edited March 17, 2016 by Avaleigh

[swankie]

I'm really going to need ALL of these ladies to stop with the affronted attitude when someone can't come to your event. Even if it IS a charity event, LVP. Nobody can come to everything. Eileen not going to your dog march does not mean she hates animals and hopes all dogs are slaughtered. You have no way of knowing what charities people support in their private time, what checks they send in. But it's literally impossible for them to go to every event and support every cause. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure part of Eileen not going is her beef with LVP....but again, JUST LET IT GO.

 

 

And did that protest really make any difference at all?  I mean, was there even anyone in the building they were protesting in front of?  If it was they were probably sitting there watching the whole thing as they ate their doggy burgers and puppy nuggets.  Don't get me wrong, I feel the same way LisaV feels about the whole thing, but as protests go, that one was sort of weak.  I would think you would need to stay there a number of days and get the news involved to really get the message across.  I don't think the people in China committing these heinous acts were really affected by this protest, but kadooz to the Vanderpumps for trying.

[WireWrap]

And did that protest really make any difference at all?  I mean, was there even anyone in the building they were protesting in front of?  If it was they were probably sitting there watching the whole thing as they ate their doggy burgers and puppy nuggets.  Don't get me wrong, I feel the same way LisaV feels about the whole thing, but as protests go, that one was sort of weak.  I would think you would need to stay there a number of days and get the news involved to really get the message across.  I don't think the people in China committing these heinous acts were really affected by this protest, but kadooz to the Vanderpumps for trying.

Well, it did get us talking about it, so there is at least 1+ million more people knowing about it now compared to before this episode. AND, if just a third of these viewers tell a friend and they tell a friend and so on and so on, it just might lead to something good. Do I think China or that village in China will stop this barbaric festival, No but stranger things have happened. LOL

[kokapetl]

I'm sure those Chinese villagers are going to change their ways after they hear what a bunch of bourgeoisie imperialist western capitalist pigs said about them.

Edited March 17, 2016 by Kokapetl

[Barb23]

In the New York scene, I'm surprised that Yolonda didn't have the sense to wear a better bra with that skintight grey top. Her breasts looked sad, saggy and droopy. All of which would have been remedied with the proper bra.

Edit due to "brain fog"

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed. IIRC, she had the same look wearing a different dress (red?) In a TH. That's about all i got out of this episode. Bring on Dubai.

[CriticalMass]

I loved the fake Skype call Yo had with the King. The King might not have wanted we viewers to see who might have been sharing his bed? What really bugged me about that fake lovey lovey call (the twice unreturned "I love you" from Yo was delicious) was that David obviously feels Yo has learned nothing/done nothing but spend his bucks/gotten no better/had no improvement in two years? A speech delivered two years ago is sufficient? How dare he even threaten to burn the bathrobe! In two years, despite the 100+ doctors Yo's outlook on her debilitating invisible disease is the same? What about the children? Is there no hope for the non-Gigis?

[renatae]

I'm doing the math to figure out if I can binge watch in time.  I've been meaning to since it's on Amazon Prime, but keep not getting to it.  I think I just deleted last season's premier off my DVR because I was going to do the same thing then and put that episode as do not delete so it'd be there when I caught up.  I'm too busy watching the Bravo shit show, I guess.

 

Thanks for the tip on prime - watching now!

[tabloidlover]

I loved the fake Skype call Yo had with the King. The King might not have wanted we viewers to see who might have been sharing his bed? What really bugged me about that fake lovey lovey call (the twice unreturned "I love you" from Yo was delicious) was that David obviously feels Yo has learned nothing/done nothing but spend his bucks/gotten no better/had no improvement in two years? A speech delivered two years ago is sufficient? How dare he even threaten to burn the bathrobe! In two years, despite the 100+ doctors Yo's outlook on her debilitating invisible disease is the same? What about the children? Is there no hope for the non-Gigis?

Bolding mine.  I found it extremely shady that Yo started the call with "I know you're at the gym, but"  Who does that?  If he is truly at the gym, is that really the ideal time for this stupid chat?  And wouldn't he be out of breath?  Even IF he had his phone with him while working out?  So dumb.  It was clearly said so that we didn't think his true location was odd.   She's so stupid.  She would have been better off saying either nothing or "I know you're at the studio, but"   She is so used to lying that she doesn't even bother to not be sloppy.

[Satchels of gold]

^ something me did a screen shot of her phone. It actually said David Foster my love. Lol

[Wings]

David's brief, subtitled, exchange with Tom, tugged at my heart.  Not because I sensed sadness in his words, I did not.  Just sympathy for what he has gone though for the past 4 years.  Now there is a "journey" for you!  I don't think we will see him marry again. 

[AuntiePam]

I still can't figure out why Yo said she'd never had short hair before.  The new cut is shorter than it was, but it was short before.  I guess when Yo says something, that makes it true.  Woman's living in a bubble.

[WireWrap]

I still can't figure out why Yo said she'd never had short hair before.  The new cut is shorter than it was, but it was short before.  I guess when Yo says something, that makes it true.  Woman's living in a bubble.

She really thinks we bought that her longer hair was really hers and not bad extensions. LOL

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

I watched Yolanda giving her toast and I always think "What is she getting out of this?" There she is standing in front of a magnificent skyline on a rooftop of the jewel suite, in her tube top AA Are you there god it's me margaret strapless bra paired with a  tight form fitting top to make sure her boob problem is accentuated, with all of her friends schlepped all the way across the country, and her children in town, to see her win an award as a Lyme spokesperson (that she paid for). ATTENTION. Her dad died suddenly & early. She was a model. She's a few years into a marriage with a man who is big on his own appearances. She has a deep abyss inside of her that needs to be filled up with attention to a frightening degree. 

 

Did you see Daisy's facial reaction (when she was standing next to "Tom" in the yellow shirt- who the F is Tom BTW?) during the Yo/David vomit lovey dovey talk on the rooftop? Daisy's face practically said "bitch please" with major side eye. Daisy knows. We can only hope Daisy did not sign a confidentiality agreement and we'll hear the REAL dirt on the divorce when Daisy's money train chugs out of town for good. Oh that is coming. Choo chooooo!

Edited March 17, 2016 by Alonzo Mosely FBI

[Duke2801]

nc socialworker, on 17 Mar 2016 - 09:31 AM, said:

^ something me did a screen shot of her phone. It actually said David Foster my love. Lol

OMG!  Did it really??  She is something else.  I wonder what it says now??

 

WireWrap, on 17 Mar 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

She really thinks we bought that her longer hair was really hers and not bad extensions. LOL

 

IDK if the longer 'do she sported in the earlier seasons was hers or extensions, but either way it was hideous!  Her Claire Underwood cut is light years better than that old raggedy mop.  I wish Lisa VP would take a cue from Yo and get hers cut.  Perhaps not as short, but something more current and less "1980s prom queen" looking.

[WireWrap]

OMG!  Did it really??  She is something else.  I wonder what it says now??

 

 

IDK if the longer 'do she sported in the earlier seasons was hers or extensions, but either way it was hideous!  Her Claire Underwood cut is light years better than that old raggedy mop.  I wish Lisa VP would take a cue from Yo and get hers cut.  Perhaps not as short, but something more current and less "1980s prom queen" looking.

I believe it was extensions, there were screen shots of them on a few blog sites her first/second seasons. LOL  I like LisaV  but I agree, she needs an update with her hair and she needs to go at least an inch lower with her stiletto heal height.

[Wings]

Yo has very thin, fine hair.  She definitely had extensions, you could see that clearly.  It is very easy to spot where the real hair ends and the extensions begin.  When she first cut it to a short bob you could see that even if she could grow her hair that long (unlikely) that it would be very thin, nothing like the extensions.  She lies about everything. 

 

I have never really watched the behavior of a narcissist until now.  That word is tossed around lightly so much that it has become a casual definition for anyone self absorbed, it is more serious than that.   Yolanda fits this description.  I have a background in psychology that allows me to say this with great conviction.  

[Avaleigh]

I definitely don't miss Yolanda's greasy looking cobra hair.

[NYCFree]

My sister had untreatable profound hearing loss stemming back to when she was a kid ( late 1960's- 70's), she is now in her early 50's . Like Kathryn , a hearing aid was developed to benefit her type of hearing loss. She had it in for about a week and stopped using it. Apparently the world was a lot noisier and frantic then she ever realized and she didn't like it.

ETA this episode was ridiculous .

I haven't read through the whole thread but wanted to address this, if others have commented please forgive me for being redundant. My son is hearing impaired, he has hearing aids in both ears. Sometimes one or both need to be repaired. Depending on the amount of time he has been without hearing aids, he really needs to adjust to them again. I remember walking out of the doctor's building and my son looked straight up in panic. He said "that's the sound of rain hitting the awning? I don't need to hear that rat-a-tat in my ears!" Please encourage her to try and get used to them, her world would be so enhanced. My son's hearing aids have a remote control tht changes volume and can be adjusted for background noise, like in a restaurant.

[zoeysmom]

Yo has very thin, fine hair.  She definitely had extensions, you could see that clearly.  It is very easy to spot where the real hair ends and the extensions begin.  When she first cut it to a short bob you could see that even if she could grow her hair that long (unlikely) that it would be very thin, nothing like the extensions.  She lies about everything. 

 

I have never really watched the behavior of a narcissist until now.  That word is tossed around lightly so much that it has become a casual definition for anyone self absorbed, it is more serious than that.   Yolanda fits this description.  I have a background in psychology that allows me to say this with great conviction.  

Here is Yolanda gets a haircut Part 1:  http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-beauty/news/yolanda-foster-new-bob-all-the-details-2014173  Somewhere in between January of 2014 and October of 2015, she "lost all of" her hair.  I think Yolanda just can't keep the hair closest to her face coloured and much past her nose inlength it is too fine.  Join the world of Nordic people with frog fur for hair. 

 

Didn't Yolanda also say David did not like curly hair? So he is not liking the short hair or the curly hair.

[Reo]

Okay this episode was bordering on incomprehensible.

 

Hey, by all accounts, the editors only have about 30 hours to assemble an hour long show.  They are the true heroes of BHH, taking one for the team sorting through all that bullshit looking for the good bits.  And the TRUE manipulators, not just this season, but every season.

 

*Note - I do have quite a bit of editing experience and sometimes it's impossible to make something lucid.  Shows like this, you can't re-shoot.  

**Note - I keep thinking about Shakespeare but can't figure out why.  Oh, yeah.  Much Ado About Nothing.  BHH, a farce of manners and misunderstandings in 2016.

 

***Note - I'm wondering if there is ever going to be anything actually interesting being fought about on this show.  Then I realized that would mean lawyers and stifle orders.  How sad that they manage to trivialize everything.  I remember that poor bastard who committed suicide being reduced to "Next week, on BHH..."

[kokapetl]

Here is Yolanda gets a haircut Part 1: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-beauty/news/yolanda-foster-new-bob-all-the-details-2014173 Somewhere in between January of 2014 and October of 2015, she "lost all of" her hair. I think Yolanda just can't keep the hair closest to her face coloured and much past her nose inlength it is too fine. Join the world of Nordic people with frog fur for hair.

Didn't Yolanda also say David did not like curly hair? So he is not liking the short hair or the curly hair.

A true Dutchwoman!

[Happycatisfine]

I waited until someone mentioned this but no one did - IF Yo and David were living together as "My Loves" how did he not know she had been writing that speech for weeks?  Do they not talk?  (or not live together)

[WireWrap]

Hey, by all accounts, the editors only have about 30 hours to assemble an hour long show.  They are the true heroes of BHH, taking one for the team sorting through all that bullshit looking for the good bits.  And the TRUE manipulators, not just this season, but every season.

 

*Note - I do have quite a bit of editing experience and sometimes it's impossible to make something lucid.  Shows like this, you can't re-shoot.  

**Note - I keep thinking about Shakespeare but can't figure out why.  Oh, yeah.  Much Ado About Nothing.  BHH, a farce of manners and misunderstandings in 2016.

 

***Note - I'm wondering if there is ever going to be anything actually interesting being fought about on this show.  Then I realized that would mean lawyers and stifle orders.  How sad that they manage to trivialize everything.  I remember that poor bastard who committed suicide being reduced to "Next week, on BHH..."

There have been reports for a few years that they do re-shoot scenes until the producers get what they want. Eyewitnesses have come forward on both the NY and the NJ shows, 1 with photos from their cell phones (NY), as proof that it does happen. Although there is no written script/no lines to learn, the shows are not completely organic and production does stage somethings. Alex M (NY) spilled a lot of the behind the scenes producer tricks like arranging some HWs to arrive late, telling HW X that HW W said something nasty, mean about them right before they see each other to help amp up the drama, things along this nature. They don't tell or direct the women on what to say but they may need to re-shoot a scene because they didn't get the reaction on film or the mics didn't catch something they, the producers, want. Heck, even the trips, parties, gatherings are all prescheduled so everyone knows who will be where as much as possible, although a HW can bow out of an event they are not hosting, because they need to get releases signed from restaurant/hotel/non cats members before filming happens.

I waited until someone mentioned this but no one did - IF Yo and David were living together as "My Loves" how did he not know she had been writing that speech for weeks?  Do they not talk?  (or not live together)

 

It has been reported/rumored by several bloggers that they have been separated for over a year, before filming began this season. Some going so far as to speculate that they were separated when they put the Malibu house on the market.

[b2H]

I have a hearing aid too and I'm constantly having to adjust for sound.  I work in a 'war room' environment and the only snacks they appear to buy for the troops are contained in that crinkly plastic (e.g., potato chip bags).  For some reason, my aid picks up on that sound and seems to amplify it painfully, even if it's across a room.  We're working on the adjustment, but yeah......

 

As far as Yo is concerned, her King is about to depose her.  I suppose this will be the end of her story this season, but whether she returns after this season will be up in the air.  I frankly don't care unless she gets an honest to G-d life and stops moaning about something that was easily fixable years before, had she stuck with traditional treatments for more than five minutes.  As those have observed earlier, she became miraculously healthier with the removal of the implants, but someone should have been aware of the leakage so much sooner - I've never had implants, but don't patients have to have follow up exams to ensure the integrity and condition of these things, especially with all the knowledge as to leakage that's been in the media for years?

 

Let's see what happens in Dubai - happy that neither Yo, nor the trouble twins will be involved in this part of the season.

 

Can we please just have a good time, see wonderful things and not have the nitpicking for just a couple of eps?  Please?

[Giselle]

And did that protest really make any difference at all?  I mean, was there even anyone in the building they were protesting in front of?  If it was they were probably sitting there watching the whole thing as they ate their doggy burgers and puppy nuggets.  Don't get me wrong, I feel the same way LisaV feels about the whole thing, but as protests go, that one was sort of weak.  I would think you would need to stay there a number of days and get the news involved to really get the message across.  I don't think the people in China committing these heinous acts were really affected by this protest, but kadooz to the Vanderpumps for trying.

 

The only thing that would affect or stop this 7 years old new festival fad is for china to be hurt economically (tourism drop, manufacturing businesses choosing to go elsewhere) and only then would the Chinese government crack down to stop it. Doubt that would ever happen. Glad Lisa  V and others are passionate about it, while my view is a belief in good animal husbandry and responsible usage my passion for a cause lies elsewhere. 

 

That being said we have our own issues here. People refusing to get their precious furbaby fixed because they want to breed it so leaves lots of puppies and kittens ending up as paint or glue.  Always loved the billboards they had here for a while until people got it pulled down because "it upset them" even if it did speak the truth. Kittens and puppies in a basket with the line "Pick one and kiss the rest good bye" then at the bottom "Spay or neuter your pet."

Edited March 17, 2016 by Giselle

[Radar]

 

I think LVP is probably annoyed that her newest ally is also loud, obnoxious and socially inept.

And by now she's probably aware that Kathryn is also not very popular with viewers. The only thing she really brings to the show is scenes of her hot husband.  Since LVP currently has Kyle in her corner, she's probably just keeping Kathryn close as a minion to be on her side for the reunion. LVP, KYLE and Kathryn are hardly the new dream team. I find it very unlikely that Bravo will bring Kathryn back next year. Erika has really gotten all the attention as the newbie and will probably be back. Kathryn's going to be in the Carlton, Joyce, Cindy Barshop pile of HW's cast off after 1 try.

[Wings]

Here is Yolanda gets a haircut Part 1:  http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-beauty/news/yolanda-foster-new-bob-all-the-details-2014173  Somewhere in between January of 2014 and October of 2015, she "lost all of" her hair.  I think Yolanda just can't keep the hair closest to her face coloured and much past her nose inlength it is too fine.  Join the world of Nordic people with frog fur for hair. 

 

Didn't Yolanda also say David did not like curly hair? So he is not liking the short hair or the curly hair.

 

 

Total bull shit.  She never lost her hair.  Hair grows 1/2" a month.   We never saw her with a scarf, wig or wicked short hair to show this.  She is taking a page from a chemotherapy book. 

 

She has her hair foiled; nothing touches her scalp so that works.  

[izabella]

And by now she's probably aware that Kathryn is also not very popular with viewers. The only thing she really brings to the show is scenes of her hot husband.  Since LVP currently has Kyle in her corner, she's probably just keeping Kathryn close as a minion to be on her side for the reunion. LVP, KYLE and Kathryn are hardly the new dream team. I find it very unlikely that Bravo will bring Kathryn back next year. Erika has really gotten all the attention as the newbie and will probably be back. Kathryn's going to be in the Carlton, Joyce, Cindy Barshop pile of HW's cast off after 1 try.

 

If I'm a newbie, and I'm seeing Lisa and Kyle giggling and having fun on one side, and all the rest picking and poking at each other about who said what when to whom about Yo or Munchies or bipolar or Rinna or Kings and Bosses....I'm picking the fun, giggly team to play with, not the Much Ado About Nothing team.

[TattleTeeny]

I changed channels during the dog  parts because it upsets me too much, so I can't comment on any of that.

 

I started crying! I mean, they didn't even go into detail but still...though I have had a week from HELL, so there's that too. Now, even as a vegan, I cannot really get on a high horse about eating dog because people eat all kinds of animals. But--and I could be making wrong assumptions here because I didn't, and most certainly will not, look it up--to deliberately taunt and torture first as part of some kind of celebration/tradition. I mean, fuck right off, please! I can't. Sick, sick sickos, and I really don't care if that comes off as somehow culturally insensitive!

[Satchels of gold]

There have been reports for a few years that they do re-shoot scenes until the producers get what they want. Eyewitnesses have come forward on both the NY and the NJ shows, 1 with photos from their cell phones (NY), as proof that it does happen. Although there is no written script/no lines to learn, the shows are not completely organic and production does stage somethings. Alex M (NY) spilled a lot of the behind the scenes producer tricks like arranging some HWs to arrive late, telling HW X that HW W said something nasty, mean about them right before they see each other to help amp up the drama, things along this nature. They don't tell or direct the women on what to say but they may need to re-shoot a scene because they didn't get the reaction on film or the mics didn't catch something they, the producers, want. Heck, even the trips, parties, gatherings are all prescheduled so everyone knows who will be where as much as possible, although a HW can bow out of an event they are not hosting, because they need to get releases signed from restaurant/hotel/non cats members before filming happens.

 

It has been reported/rumored by several bloggers that they have been separated for over a year, before filming began this season. Some going so far as to speculate that they were separated when they put the Malibu house on the market.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDA9EoKje-1/?hl=en

Danielle Staub has written a tell all about the housewives. Thus far I haven't put a dime into any housewives pocket via their own products but I will be purchasing and reading the hell out of that.

[kassa]

This is the kind of stuff that I find maddening.  If you didn't want to go, don't go, but this is not the excuse she gave LVP.  I'm sure Lisa would have easily accepted an explanation that had to do with children.  Don't ramp up your excuse post taping because you don't think the one you offered (which was probably the truth) was good enough.  I honestly would have respected her more had she not done that.

 

 

I didn't find the second answer contradicted the first.

 

She wanted the day off, and said so.  Had she said "I want to spend the day with my son," Lisa's response would have been "bring him along!"  Adults don't owe other adults reasons for declining an invitation - "I can't make it" is perfectly adequate.  Eileen went a bit further and said she needed a day off (and since the last few episodes have shown her arriving at events direct from work in many cases, including night shoots, it seems like she has been working pretty hard).

 

If she wants to sleep til 10:30 and then play Candy Crush on her phone in her pajamas in the living room on the same sofa where her son plays video games, completely ignoring her, that's still a way of being with the kid that at his age he'd find acceptable.  She wants a day off to spend with her kid.  Because kids occasionally need their parents home so they can ignore them in person.

 

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But--and I could be making wrong assumptions here because I didn't, and most certainly will not, look it up--to deliberately taunt and torture first as part of some kind of celebration/tradition.

 

Do not google.  The results page contains far more information (including images) than you need in your brain.  Know that it's way beyond dogs as meat.  Lisa was not exaggerating.   

Edited March 17, 2016 by kassa

[TattleTeeny]

she brought up his cheating both in front of Portia

 

I don't understand how this is manipulative. Also, it was clearly (to me) a joke, sort of a play on words, about a "cute younger woman"--Portia...who, IMO, would never have understood the joke anyway, so who cares if it was made in front of her? I think Lisa's only mistake back then was assuming that Kyle was less distressed about this situation than she actually was, and that she (Kyle) would have laughed with Lisa. 

[WaltersHair]

 

The whole bit with Lisa Rinna being so upset about Yolanda and Brandi and Kim was beyond ridiculous.  Erika was the only one with any right to be upset, and she was fine.  None of Lisa's business

I beliehve there was a caption that said 'true friends'. I missed last season, but I think Lisa took that as a personal dig at her. Erika wouldn't be upset with that caption because she knows where she stands with Yolanda, but LisaR doesn't.

 

Either way it was petty of whoever the poster of the photo was. That person was obviously looking for a reaction and LisaR gave it to them.

[jinjer]

Yes, Yolanda did film a lot but she controlled the narrative every time she was on with any of the other women, be it just Erika or Eileen/LisaR or the entire group, She. Controlled. The. Narrative. They could only talk about what she wanted to talk about, which was usually her health or her definition of what being a friend is. If you asked her anything that was not full of praise towards her she would complain about her "brain fog" then leave, accuse them of not being a "real" friend or worst of all, she would call them "ignorant of those suffering from invisible illness" to shut them down each and every time. I think this is what most of them are complaining about, not her pop in leave stunts but her controlling everyone/everything.

Surely Yo's scenes were set up by her to highlight de Lymes, like LVP highlighting Yulin or Kyle Habitat for Humanity.  

 

But when Yo attended the other events, she didn't control the convo anymore than answering questions about her current state. The carnival became an incident bc of Eileen riling up Rinna in the car about the bi-polar comment and having them address it at the table. Again, LVP's birthday lunch after spinning, Kyle stirred the pot after Yo repeatedly saying that she and Rinna were ok and Move On, but Kyle wouldn't let it drop. Same with Rinna at Camille's. She brought it up by sitting there with the big puss on her face about Yo spending the day with B/K. They directed the story back to Yo's illness. These women were dumb enough either to follow production's prodding to go after Yo's illness or to do it on their own. Yo would have been a big boring story if they just gave her the big sympathetic, "Poor You! You're so sick!" and moved on. Bravo would've gotten sick of filming her in her robe without the others keeping her in their mouths and feeding into drama.

I don't understand how this is manipulative. Also, it was clearly (to me) a joke, sort of a play on words, about a "cute younger woman"--Portia...who, IMO, would never have understood the joke anyway, so who cares if it was made in front of her? I think Lisa's only mistake back then was assuming that Kyle was less distressed about this situation than she actually was, and that she (Kyle) would have laughed with Lisa. 

The whole point of my post was LVP's actions that season to highlight Mo's infidelity (not just that one comment in front of Portia) and to diss Kyle/make her feel uncomfortable, yet here a season or two later, Kyle is back to defending her. She wasn't manipulating Kyle that season, but since then she has been able to maneuver Kyle back into her camp.  Heck even early in this season, LVP bringing up Kim on speaker phone and at the dinner in the Hamptons had Kyle fuming in talking heads, yet Kyle still defends her.

[TattleTeeny]

Do not google. The results page contains far more information (including images) than you need in your brain. Know that it's way beyond dogs as meat. Lisa was not exaggerating.

Oh, I won't, sister! Just the Facebook reposts about cruelty and even lost pets throw me into a rage-cry. I don't even watch recommended videos about veganism; while I do like information, I am scared of the images I might see--I don't need to be convinced that there is cruelty afoot, so it's kind of nothing but self-sabotage, and horror for the sake of horror to me.

Edited March 17, 2016 by TattleTeeny

[zoeysmom]

I didn't find the second answer contradicted the first.

 

She wanted the day off, and said so.  Had she said "I want to spend the day with my son," Lisa's response would have been "bring him along!"  Adults don't owe other adults reasons for declining an invitation - "I can't make it" is perfectly adequate.  Eileen went a bit further and said she needed a day off (and since the last few episodes have shown her arriving at events direct from work in many cases, including night shoots, it seems like she has been working pretty hard).

 

If she wants to sleep til 10:30 and then play Candy Crush on her phone in her pajamas in the living room on the same sofa where her son plays video games, completely ignoring her, that's still a way of being with the kid that at his age he'd find acceptable.  She wants a day off to spend with her kid.  Because kids occasionally need their parents home so they can ignore them in person.

 

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Do not google.  The results page contains far more information (including images) than you need in your brain.  Know that it's way beyond dogs as meat.  Lisa was not exaggerating.   

I don't speak Pumpy and LVP, I think was very clear that if someone did not want to go to not go, due to the nature of the event (some people don't like protesting), since Eileen keeps bringing up the Hamptons, I am going to say perhaps it was the second LVP activity that Eileen committed to and then changed her mind.  Not saying Eileen was wrong.   I think her answer was designed to make LVP and her cause insignificant.* The other thing these ladies get paid to go to lunch, ride the soul cycle, protest against Yulin.  So Eileen was essentially taking a day off from work on RHOBH.   

 

* Vince has tweeted about being part of the WPT in China and filming shortly after the protest.  Maybe that was a part of it that was wisely not made part of the show.

[Satchels of gold]

I haven't read through the whole thread but wanted to address this, if others have commented please forgive me for being redundant. My son is hearing impaired, he has hearing aids in both ears. Sometimes one or both need to be repaired. Depending on the amount of time he has been without hearing aids, he really needs to adjust to them again. I remember walking out of the doctor's building and my son looked straight up in panic. He said "that's the sound of rain hitting the awning? I don't need to hear that rat-a-tat in my ears!" Please encourage her to try and get used to them, her world would be so enhanced. My son's hearing aids have a remote control tht changes volume and can be adjusted for background noise, like in a restaurant.

Thanks, I'm going to address this with her when I see over Easter break. She basically had a meltdown that went a little something like "TALKING, REALLY? ALL THE DAMN WORDS! STOP BEEPING! CAN SOMEONE TURN DOWN THE OCEAN, ITS VERY WAVEY! " She relayed her inner world is very peaceful and she likes it that way. I'm so surprised that this is so common.

Edited March 17, 2016 by nc socialworker

[zoeysmom]

Surely Yo's scenes were set up by her to highlight de Lymes, like LVP highlighting Yulin or Kyle Habitat for Humanity.  

 

But when Yo attended the other events, she didn't control the convo anymore than answering questions about her current state. The carnival became an incident bc of Eileen riling up Rinna in the car about the bi-polar comment and having them address it at the table. Again, LVP's birthday lunch after spinning, Kyle stirred the pot after Yo repeatedly saying that she and Rinna were ok and Move On, but Kyle wouldn't let it drop. Same with Rinna at Camille's. She brought it up by sitting there with the big puss on her face about Yo spending the day with B/K. They directed the story back to Yo's illness. These women were dumb enough either to follow production's prodding to go after Yo's illness or to do it on their own. Yo would have been a big boring story if they just gave her the big sympathetic, "Poor You! You're so sick!" and moved on. Bravo would've gotten sick of filming her in her robe without the others keeping her in their mouths and feeding into drama.

The whole point of my post was LVP's actions that season to highlight Mo's infidelity (not just that one comment in front of Portia) and to diss Kyle/make her feel uncomfortable, yet here a season or two later, Kyle is back to defending her. She wasn't manipulating Kyle that season, but since then she has been able to maneuver Kyle back into her camp.  Heck even early in this season, LVP bringing up Kim on speaker phone and at the dinner in the Hamptons had Kyle fuming in talking heads, yet Kyle still defends her.

You bring up such an excellent plotline.  After soul cycling, it did seem rather odd that Kyle and LVP would be bringing up the bi-polar stuff and Lisar v. Yolanda.  At the dinner this week, LVP let it be known that Lisar after time passes, lets out some pretty angry texts.  So I believe what we were hearing is that Lisar may have done some angry texts to LVP to "please" her after the Yolanda screamed at LVP at the carnival for daring to defend Lisar.  The texts were probably the genesis for the conversation and once again it was Eileen demanding to know what was being talked about.  it would have been perfect had LVP answered, "oh we were just discussing when it was exactly you and Vince started the affair." The "manipulated" hug ordered by Eileen at the carnival did not seem the least bit genuine and I saw it as Lisar being a little, dare I say manipulated or would it be directed?  Just because Yolanda says it is time something be over does not mean her constant condescension and ignorance is being forgiven.  

 

I do think Rinna behaved disproportionately regarding Yolanda have lunch with the two reprobates over going to Erika's, but Yolanda didn't disappoint when she claimed Brandi and Kim's friendship and support superior to the rest of the cast combined.  So Rinna and Yolanda both came away looking like losers.  

 

By episode end it was Eileen and Rinna looking even more foolish.  So if Eileen got LVP to say, "I can be persuasive, directorial, or some may see it as manipulative," what would it matter?  Eileen would never accept the apology.   Most likely Eileen would stumble al of herself and then find herself admitting to being manipulative as well.

[izabella]

Most likely Eileen would stumble al of herself and then find herself admitting to being manipulative as well.

 

And then Eileen would get mad at Lisa for manipulating her into admitting that she herself is trying to be manipulative, and then chase her around for an apology for 3 months for making her feel bad about herself.

[TattleTeeny]

Yo and David missed an opportunity when they didn't say, "When life gives you Lyme, make lemonade."

[Giselle]

I liked Yolanda's haircut but the quip about losing her hair was utter bullshit. Woman please.

[slitz]

Eileen could've handled the bowing out of the fundraiser better.  To say she just didn't want to get up (basically) wasn't the best excuse.  The march looked pretty lame and I wasn't exactly sure how a march in Beverly Hills was supposed to effect change in and small town in Japan.

 

Technically the march wasn't in BH.  The Chinese Consulate in Los Angeles is about 10 miles away from BH.  And Yulin is in China, not Japan.

[Wings]

Eileen had been working a lot on her soap; her character's plot line was front and center.  Wanting a day to herself sounded reasonable.  She didn't say she didn't want to get up, she said "I need a day."  I get that.    

 

She knew this protest was probably set up for the show.  Marching out in the sun for probably hours is something she decided to skip.  They all have leeway to excuse themselves, on occasion, because most have jobs outside of this show.  LVP has taken a step out for work a number of times.  Erika's dinner was the most recent.  

 

Eileen does fine with inviting trouble without having to toss this in.  

Edited March 17, 2016 by wings707

[WireWrap]

Surely Yo's scenes were set up by her to highlight de Lymes, like LVP highlighting Yulin or Kyle Habitat for Humanity.  

 

But when Yo attended the other events, she didn't control the convo anymore than answering questions about her current state. The carnival became an incident bc of Eileen riling up Rinna in the car about the bi-polar comment and having them address it at the table. Again, LVP's birthday lunch after spinning, Kyle stirred the pot after Yo repeatedly saying that she and Rinna were ok and Move On, but Kyle wouldn't let it drop. Same with Rinna at Camille's. She brought it up by sitting there with the big puss on her face about Yo spending the day with B/K. They directed the story back to Yo's illness. These women were dumb enough either to follow production's prodding to go after Yo's illness or to do it on their own. Yo would have been a big boring story if they just gave her the big sympathetic, "Poor You! You're so sick!" and moved on. Bravo would've gotten sick of filming her in her robe without the others keeping her in their mouths and feeding into drama.

The whole point of my post was LVP's actions that season to highlight Mo's infidelity (not just that one comment in front of Portia) and to diss Kyle/make her feel uncomfortable, yet here a season or two later, Kyle is back to defending her. She wasn't manipulating Kyle that season, but since then she has been able to maneuver Kyle back into her camp.  Heck even early in this season, LVP bringing up Kim on speaker phone and at the dinner in the Hamptons had Kyle fuming in talking heads, yet Kyle still defends her.

The lunch after the spin thing, Yolanda did control the topic of conversation. Kyle tried to explain she and Lisa were talking privately to each other, Yolanda demanded to know what it was about. Kyle told her it was about LisaR and Erika chimed in that it was about the bi-polar comment and off to the races Yolanda went. Good grief, for someone that says she has good manners, she went after LisaV, whos Birthday it was. How do you think Yolanda would have handled anyone doing that to Erika, Eileen, Brandi or herself on their BDs? Yolanda keeps the cameras and the conversation focused on her.

[Bronzedog]

LVP should understand Eileen needing a day for herself. After all, didn't we spend a season hearing about Lisa skipping Kim's daughter's graduation, or shower or wedding, or something. I don't remember the event, but, I remember Lisa coming home early from wherever she was, and, choosing not to attend an event. Kim was in 150% pain because of it.

[WireWrap]

Eileen had been working a lot on her soap; her character's plot line was front and center.  Wanting a day to herself sounded reasonable.  She didn't say she didn't want to get up, she said "I need a day."  I get that.    

 

She knew this protest was probably set up for the show.  Marching out in the sun for probably hours is something she decided to skip.  They all have leeway to excuse themselves, on occasion, because most have jobs outside of this show.  LVP has taken a step out for work a number of times.  Erika's dinner was the most recent.  

 

Eileen does fine with inviting trouble without having to toss this in.  

 

Had she told LisaV she could not come from the get go, I don't think there would have been any hard feelings from Lisa but that is not what happened. Eileen said she would be there, then Lisa finds out that Eileen is calling her "manipulative" the very same day she backs out and Eileen stumbled around for that excuse, which sounded false. She said she needed "a day off" because she was working so much and now she is claiming she didn't go because her son "needed" her. She is changing her excuse to lessen the blow back she is getting via social media. And her blog was horrid towards Lisa, as was Yolanda's, both basically accuse her of caring about animals and not humans/people.

LVP should understand Eileen needing a day for herself. After all, didn't we spend a season hearing about Lisa skipping Kim's daughter's graduation, or shower or wedding, or something. I don't remember the event, but, I remember Lisa coming home early from wherever she was, and, choosing not to attend an event. Kim was in 150% pain because of it.

 

Yes, Lisa/Ken didn't go to Kimberly's graduation but they sent in their RSVP as NO and sent a gift from the get go. Also, they were flying in from an out of state Charity event for the Alopecia Foundation. They drove from the airport to a restaurant for dinner, around 8 pm and had not even gotten to their house yet.

[Wings]

Had she told LisaV she could not come from the get go, I don't think there would have been any hard feelings from Lisa but that is not what happened. Eileen said she would be there, then Lisa finds out that Eileen is calling her "manipulative" the very same day she backs out and Eileen stumbled around for that excuse, which sounded false. She said she needed "a day off" because she was working so much and now she is claiming she didn't go because her son "needed" her. She is changing her excuse to lessen the blow back she is getting via social media. And her blog was horrid towards Lisa, as was Yolanda's, both basically accuse her of caring about animals and not humans/people.

 

Yes, Lisa/Ken didn't go to Kimberly's graduation but they sent in their RSVP as NO and sent a gift from the get go. Also, they were flying in from an out of state Charity event for the Alopecia Foundation. They drove from the airport to a restaurant for dinner, around 8 pm and had not even gotten to their house yet.

 

 

I stand corrected, I only heard what she said on the show.  Still, I say let it go. They don't like each other.  I would rather not have her around if I were LVP.  Astounding that these are adults.  

 

ETA:  Again I will say that everyone (except Eileen) wants to be liked by LVP.   They  do what she wants to curry favor and then cry manipulation!  Everyone is a big girl.  Take care of your own boundaries (I hate that word but sometimes it is the only one that works).  

Edited March 17, 2016 by wings707

[motorcitymom65]

Had she told LisaV she could not come from the get go, I don't think there would have been any hard feelings from Lisa but that is not what happened. Eileen said she would be there, then Lisa finds out that Eileen is calling her "manipulative" the very same day she backs out and Eileen stumbled around for that excuse, which sounded false. She said she needed "a day off" because she was working so much and now she is claiming she didn't go because her son "needed" her. She is changing her excuse to lessen the blow back she is getting via social media. And her blog was horrid towards Lisa, as was Yolanda's, both basically accuse her of caring about animals and not humans/people.

 

 

I don't think she found out the same day, did she (that part was very confusing for me). It looked like she had found out earlier on the bus when they were doing the Habitat for Humanity deal (which was several days before). Again, I could have that wrong.

 

Anyway, these gals are always telling others they cannot attend something right before it happens. We see that all the time. Remember that LVP cancelled the dumb tile painting playdate on the day of the event because she was busy. Yo was waiting around for her to show and gets a call that she isn't coming. It was stupid of Yo to be mad and act like LVP must hate Gigi because of it,  and it's stupid for LVP to be mad now and act like Eileen must not care about animals. Of course, no situation is ever exactly the same - there are always slight differences. The point is that LVP didn't like to be scolded when she had to cancel so she shouldn't scold someone else in the same situation. Eileen said she needed a day off because she had been busy. I say that all the time. Since I have children and work hard, this generally means that I need some downtime with my family. I didn't see that she was changing her story at all. 

 

ETA: The thing that was the most ironic to me is that LVP was making it sound like Eileen - of all people - wasn't interested in animal welfare. Just because she was the DIL of Dick Van Patten doesn't mean she necessarily shared his passion, but certainly she was well aware of the cause and had surely been around it for some time; had seen other people who were passionately involved in the cause. DVP was considered one of the great Animal Welfare Advocates. I think it says something about Eileen that she didn't take the opportunity to remind LVP of that. 

Edited March 17, 2016 by motorcitymom65