OnceSane March 11, 2016 Share March 11, 2016 11. Ben struggles to choose between the final two bachelorettes after introducing them both to his parents and going on last dates with each woman. Confused and conflicted on the final day, Ben makes a last-minute phone call that could change everything. 12. Ben Higgins recaps the season in an interview with Chris Harrison. Also: The final two bachelorettes discuss the outcome of the show. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/
Tara Ariano March 14, 2016 Share March 14, 2016 Leaving this open because time-lock hasn't worked due to the time change. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2051388
TomGirl March 14, 2016 Share March 14, 2016 We'll be good! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2052584
Canada March 14, 2016 Share March 14, 2016 What time are we allowed to start posting? Because I get to watch this live for once, but I don't want to break any rules. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2052958
CreamedPeas March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Lauren has vocal fry and no lips. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053046
jb0495 March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 I've always wanted the guy & F1 to get married on ATFR! But Ben & Chris are really digging their heels in with the "I love two women". I can't believe the second place woman's parents are there!! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053080
hyacinth March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 (edited) ooops! didn't know there were no posting rules. Edited March 15, 2016 by hyacinth Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053111
CableBill March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 This is awful. This "show" truly needs new "writers." Both girls were told "I love you" which everybody knows is the #1 taboo that The Bachelor dude is absolutely not allowed to say until the proposal. Both girls should be ultra-happy, they should both be acting like they got the answer sheet to the final exam ahead of time. They should both be 100% confident and both "know" they will be the one. Now THAT would be an explosive finale when a 100% confident girl was sent home, totally blindsided. Instead, we have 3 mopey, miserable people without a glimmer of happiness. Who cares who he picks, the girl will always know she was a coin flip. Way to be a downer, Bachelor writers! 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053280
econ07 March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 This dude is messed up ... If his feelings are real, you always marry your best friend who you can be yourself with rather than the well-polished girl. That relationship is going to blow up. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053285
Adeejay March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Even though both women professed their love for Ben, I thought JoJo was more sincere. She should have known it was Lauren when she was yammering away at the waterfall and Ben was literally pulling away. When he told her he considers her "a best friend" and that he also loves Lauren, it was game and match. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053291
Bean421 March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 I have hopes we're on our way to another Mesnick 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053299
Armchair Critic March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Nice dress Jojo, let him see what he is going to be missing (that cleavage). ;) WTF? He is still telling Jojo he fell in love with two people as he is letting her go. This boy (and I mean BOY) needs a slap upside the head. I hope Jojo's brothers come after him. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053300
Canada March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 I generally don't feel bad for the number 2 in this show, but I genuinely feel bad here. I feel like Ben really was leading her on, moreso than I've seen in previous seasons. Did anyone happen to see, as the number 2 was driving away and Ben took his jacket off, wandering around, what he had down the back of his pants at the waist??? It looked like an ice pack or something. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053304
Saylii March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 I generally don't feel bad for the number 2 in this show, but I genuinely feel bad here. I feel like Ben really was leading her on, moreso than I've seen in previous seasons. Did anyone happen to see, as the number 2 was driving away and Ben took his jacket off, wandering around, what he had down the back of his pants at the waist??? It looked like an ice pack or something. It's his mic pack. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053309
Armchair Critic March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 "I'm ready to make your daughter the happiest woman in the world forever"....until she hears about/sees how in love I was with the runner up. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053323
Diana Berry March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 How is Lauren going to feel when she realizes he loves her just a little bit more than Jojo? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053339
operalover March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Ah JoJo you dodged a bullet!!! This guy is a freaking boring piece of crap. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053341
Popular Post Armchair Critic March 15, 2016 Popular Post Share March 15, 2016 Any minister who goes on The Bachelor after show gets a side eye from me. 28 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053342
CindyBee March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 (edited) I knew a full Mesnick wasn't coming but I so wanted to see it. Have no idea if Lauren really wants to marry him or not tonight, if this wedding farce is for real. My guess she'll do it to save face. Edited March 15, 2016 by CindyBee 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053352
hyacinth March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Ben=Ass. That is all. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053357
JenE4 March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Points to Jojo for a unique floral arrangement in a shell as compared to Lauren's typical bouquet and wine. A kazillion more points to Jojo for pointing out that Ben is hard on himself as opposed to Lauren who had no clue what his mom meant when she mentioned it first. The connection seemed deeper with Jojo just as how they appeared to the parents (for example, Ben and Jojo both describing feeling safe with each other as opposed to Ben and Lauren each feeling not good enough for each other or it's to good to be true), but the parents seemed equally impressed with each woman. Mom's afraid he won't know with whom to put a stake in, but fantasy suites were last week, so he already put a stake in both of them...plus Caila. Jojo asked Ben whether he's ready to propose to either. He said, "yeah" while shaking his head no. Jojo responds that she's glad they're on the same page--but he might be on Lauren's page! It's like a choose your adventure book: Turn to page 24 to go with the woman who makes you feel safe as a best friend and life partner, or turn to page 37 for the one who makes you feel insecure as the unattainable ideal. Ben seems terrified on this date with Lauren. And his "no matter what happens, you made me a better person for having known you" speech with everything in the past tense sounds like a total break up speech...so that means he's choosing her, right? Ben seems to have forgotten that he and Jojo already had a waterfall date, but, come on, there are a lot of women to keep track of! He's being distant with Jojo, too. ... Ok, big change by the evening portion. Although he felt the same confusion with each, you can see that he DOES have a much deeper relationship with Jojo in how they express their feelings to each other. To me, as edited for the home viewer, I'm Team Jojo 100%. But, Ben, you don't HAVE to propose. This is pretty insane to think proposing to one while you're still in love with the other is a good idea. Every time you get into a stupid little tiff you're going to be questioning what if! I bet the other one wouldn't forget to pick up milk! Oh, snap! Getting called out by Neil Lane by not knowing which woman he's proposing to. But somehow "the" ring spoke to him and told him which woman to choose. Oh, no no, Jojo! She's going to have to walk back up this meandering gangplank of shame. They better break Bachelor filming protocol and make Jojo the Bachelorette! Where do I cast my Bachelor Nation vote?! Do we have Bachelorette caucus?! Normally I would think that was a sweet proposal. I always tear up even if the lead doesn't choose the one I was rooting for, but that was just awkward immediately after him going on about how much he loves Jojo. I would be pissed if I were Lauren watching this episode. No wonder why he needs to lock down and marry Lauren live on air before she has a second for it to sink in. (Although no one thinks they're getting married tonight, right?) 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053364
MissE March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 They need to stop with this JoJo was blindsided crap. JoJo knew full well that she had a 50/50 chance of getting dumped. She was not blindsided. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053379
scenicbyway March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 I think he really didn't know how to express himself so he defaulted to "I love you's." Which, since it hadn't been done before, what were the girls supposed to think? I do think Jojo was warned when he told her he loved Lauren too. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053383
econ07 March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Ben: "I'm more in love with someone else." Jojo: "What is it?" Ben: "Your family is cray-cray." 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053386
Superpole2000 March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 JoJo = HOT! On behalf of millions of single men across North America, thank you for dumping her Ben! This show was a bore, though. The first 90 minutes should have been trimmed to about 15 minutes, and they could have added an hour to the ATFR show. I am much more interested in hearing the fallout from the decision and a discussion of the season than any of the pre-choice waffling that revealed nothing and seemed contrived/fake/acted. But thanks to the producers for showing us Ben's pastor FOUR TIMES...and every time he was reading his little book. What could he be studying right now? Shouldn't he know it all already? Why is he cramming! Ben has a procrastinating pastor! 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053390
Canada March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Jojo is being surprisingly nice to Ben.... I predict that she is the next Bachelorette! 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053391
Alapaki March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Any minister who goes on The Bachelor after show gets a side eye from me. I hope he was busy thumbing through that Bible looking for the Book of Revelation. Because that seems the most appropriate. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053392
MBJ March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 (edited) Jojo is scorching hot, like I have a crush on her. Lauren is so blah. I don't know if the show was edited this way. But Lauren showed almost nothing for Ben whereas Jojo was so passionate , such an emotional mess meeting Ben's parents. Lauren was so smug and confident the entire time. Whatever, I don't really get it. I've only watched two seasons of this shit and both seasons were spoiled for me against my will very early on in the season. How do you guys deal with it? It's so awful, I never have this issue with my other reality shows. What a mess. Edited March 15, 2016 by Ms Blue Jay 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053404
backformore March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 I am a cynic, but I suspect that the "sitting on the bathroom floor" segment was dubbed in later. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053406
JenE4 March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Jojo is being surprisingly nice to Ben.... I predict that she is the next Bachelorette! Without a doubt!! "It all worked out for a reason." Left unsaid but definitely implied "for me to be The Bachelorette!" 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053424
Armchair Critic March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Glad they didn't pick the dull Caila, be prepared for a season of Jojo flashing her boobs with some great outfits. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053428
Canada March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Ha! I knew it! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053431
MissE March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Ben didn't look to happy that JoJo was the bachelorette. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053434
Superpole2000 March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Glad they didn't pick the dull Caila, be prepared for a season of Jojo flashing her boobs with some great outfits. Every time I think I'm out, they keep pulling me back in! 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053438
backformore March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Why can't logic enter into the decision at all? Outside of the show, if any guy could not decide between two women, everyone in his life would tell him he's NOT READY TO PROPOSE!!!!!!! 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053443
CindyBee March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Not ashamed to say I'm really exited about JoJo's season. Guys are going to be really in to win. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053449
Armchair Critic March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Ben didn't look to happy that JoJo was the bachelorette. She's supposed to be mourning the loss of him instead. HA burn on Benny boy! 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053451
Canada March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 I'm glad they announced who the Bachelorette is early in the show. Now I don't have to watch anymore! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053452
leighdear March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 (edited) Lauren got her roots done. That'll keep him from straying. But the dress is ugly. I give them til Labor Day. Edited March 15, 2016 by leighdear 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053455
MBJ March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 (edited) I would love, love, love (love x1000000000) if the Bachelorette or Bachelor was a POC. It's a damn shame it couldn't be Caila for the diversity factor but the reaction to Caila on Twitter seemed to be very negative. It's really too bad. Caila's strange, robotic, repressed way of dealing or not dealing with her emotions freaked me out almost constantly -- I couldn't follow any of it. Meanwhile the Scorching Hot Jojo would have a very dramatic, sexy, exciting season full of men fighting over her and trying their hardest to get close (my imagination is running wild at the possibilities). Unfortunately (in terms of diversity, unfortunately) Jojo was just the better choice. And unfortunately if her type is BEN I worry that another vanilla (in terms of colour) season is coming our way. Jojo was always way too hot for Ben and yet she seemed to genuinely love the guy. Sigh. Edited March 15, 2016 by Ms Blue Jay 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053458
Armchair Critic March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Plaster a smile on your face Lauren, you have to appear like you are sooo happy and understanding about "winning" by a hair. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053460
StatMom March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Was that Rick Schroder? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053463
econ07 March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 I thought I saw Silver Spoons there! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053479
backformore March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Lauren got her roots done. That'll keep him from straying. But the dress is ugly. I give them til Labor Day. Yeah, how did Jimmy Kimmel put it one year? Something like, the bachelor chooses the one woman he wants to be contractually obligated to pretend to be engaged to for the next 6 months. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053480
Armchair Critic March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 I always wanted to ride that train on Silver Spoons. And his hot father. Toot toot!!! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053483
Alapaki March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Did it look like had some work done on her face? Something looked different. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053494
CindyBee March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Did it look like had some work done on her face? Something looked different. Ashley Spivey tweeted out she thinks Lauren got veeners; and that she wants them too but Dr. Ashley Rosenbaum talks her out of doing so each time she brings it up. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053500
backformore March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 It did look like he had an ice pack protecting him from the Mic pack. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053505
MissE March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Springing a wedding on them right now is stupid. they are almost obligated to yes, and they need time together before they get married. I don't buy that Lauren and Ben are in love. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053511
Armchair Critic March 15, 2016 Share March 15, 2016 Bachelorette Emily could barely close her mouth and kept licking her veneers. If Lauren got them at least they are a bit subtle. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/40362-s20e11-the-finale-s20e12-after-the-final-rose/#findComment-2053518
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