S06.E13: Spinning A Web

[WireWrap]

and refusal to play stupid head games. 

 

THIS ^^^^^^^ IS why I like Lisa, I also hate playing "head games" and always have. Just say it, don't make me guess and if your not sure about something I said, ask, don't expect me to be a mind reader. LOL

[RedheadZombie]

The montage of the ladies reading Yo's email was hysterical. I guess we know where production stands.

Earth shattering questions to follow -

Is Bambi really a girl? I recall the original Bambi being a boy.

Is Khloe a Yorki? It's hard to tell with the puppy cut.

Is Lisa's new pup a Cocker Spaniel?

Do I prefer dogs to humans?

[zoeysmom]

The montage of the ladies reading Yo's email was hysterical. I guess we know where production stands.

Earth shattering questions to follow -

Is Bambi really a girl? I recall the original Bambi being a boy.

Is Khloe a Yorki? It's hard to tell with the puppy cut.

Is Lisa's new pup a Cocker Spaniel?

Do I prefer dogs to humans?

One of Kyle's dog's is a female Giggy.   I guess maybe he is a male Giggy -Romeo.  https://www.instagram.com/p/BBMaVf7v9VI/?taken-by=kylerichards18   Love the photo.

Edited February 24, 2016 by zoeysmom

[WireWrap]

The montage of the ladies reading Yo's email was hysterical. I guess we know where production stands.

Earth shattering questions to follow -

Is Bambi really a girl? I recall the original Bambi being a boy.

Is Khloe a Yorki? It's hard to tell with the puppy cut.

Is Lisa's new pup a Cocker Spaniel?

Do I prefer dogs to humans?

I do believe that Khloe IS a Yorki but I am unsure about Lisa's new pup although he sure looks like a Cocker Spaniel. LOL

 

I DO prefer dogs to most humans! LOL

[BlackMamba]

Kind of funny Yolanda hasn't learned her lesson about sending emails after her email was leaked about Bella's drunkness bs.

[Wings]

And the winner of best Passive Aggression Award goes to --------> drum roll--------> no wait, we have a tie!  Yolanda and Lisa Vanderpump.  

 

***thundering applause***

Edited February 24, 2016 by wings707

[AuntiePam]

It didn't help that Kathryn totally mischaracterized what Erika said about Lisa.  Lisa's no "spider" -- she's a woman who thinks before she speaks and doesn't take things at face value.  You have to earn her trust and her friendship.  That's not being sneaky, it's being smart.

 

Also -- in that conversation where Kathryn auditions to be Erika's friend -- "I want to know more about you" -- all Kathryn learned was that there were mean girls in Erika's middle school, and that Erika loved her grandma and misses her.  Can't most of us say that?  Is that a basis for a friendship? 

[charming]

I don't know how LVP kept her cool during that lunch with Yolanda. I wanted her to smash a glass Rinna style. I wanted someone to wipe the smug smirk off of Yolanda's face as she saw Kyle was getting upset. What difference does it make to Yolanda if Kyle & LVP consider themselves close friends or not. Her hatred towards LVP is off the charts. I liked Kyle not backing down when Yo sneered that she "holds a lot of information in the vault, honey."

 

The nerve of this condescending bitch sending an email scolding Kyle like she's a Non-Gigi is unreal to me. 

Edited February 24, 2016 by charming

[WireWrap]

Kind of funny Yolanda hasn't learned her lesson about sending emails after her email was leaked about Bella's drunkness bs.

Makes me wonder if Yolanda "leaked" that email herself to make it look like she was tough with/on Bella.

[RedheadZombie]

Forgot to add on the email reading montage - pretty funny that all the ladies were doing the "can my arm stretch farther to accommodate middle-aged eyes" thing.  Except LVP, who sensibly wore glasses.

 

Editing trickery:  Kyle - "And then Lisa just leaves."

                           Lisa - big eyed, "She didn't?"

 

Ken had a fifteen second moment of being cute.  That's pretty good for me.

[zoeysmom]

I don't know how LVP kept her cool during that lunch with Yolanda. I wanted her to smash a glass Rinna style. I wanted someone to wipe the smug smirk off of Yolanda's face as she saw Kyle was getting upset. What difference does it make to Yolanda is Kyle & LVP consider themselves close friends or not. Her hatred towards LVP is off the charts. I liked Kyle not backing down when Yo sneered that she "holds a lot of information in the vault, honey."

 

The nerve of this condescending bitch sending an email scolding Kyle like she's a Non-Gigi is unreal to me. 

I just watched it and cannot agree more.  What a smug bitch.

[WireWrap]

It didn't help that Kathryn totally mischaracterized what Erika said about Lisa.  Lisa's no "spider" -- she's a woman who thinks before she speaks and doesn't take things at face value.  You have to earn her trust and her friendship.  That's not being sneaky, it's being smart.

 

Also -- in that conversation where Kathryn auditions to be Erika's friend -- "I want to know more about you" -- all Kathryn learned was that there were mean girls in Erika's middle school, and that Erika loved her grandma and misses her.  Can't most of us say that?  Is that a basis for a friendship? 

 

Kathryn did put it in different words but the message to Kathryn was still the same, "Don't trust LisaV", from Erika IMO.

I don't know how LVP kept her cool during that lunch with Yolanda. I wanted her to smash a glass Rinna style. I wanted someone to wipe the smug smirk off of Yolanda's face as she saw Kyle was getting upset. What difference does it make to Yolanda is Kyle & LVP consider themselves close friends or not. Her hatred towards LVP is off the charts. I liked Kyle not backing down when Yo sneered that she "holds a lot of information in the vault, honey."

 

The nerve of this condescending bitch sending an email scolding Kyle like she's a Non-Gigi is unreal to me. 

 

Yolanda was baiting them IMO and Lisa walked away before she went too far IMO.

[charming]

All things considered Yolanda has gotten off easy when it comes to the other women on this show. They could have been airing her ass out all last season and this season too. She thinks she's untouchable because of her Lyme shield. 

[BlackMamba]

Makes me wonder if Yolanda "leaked" that email herself to make it look like she was tough with/on Bella.

Mhmm.

She wants to teach people a lesson by being an Internet thug.

[TattleTeeny]

Oh, so Erika is one of THOSE women. Who doesn't have female friends because blahblah they talk shit about me whatever and then proceeds to talk shit about other women. Got it. I see you now Erika.

I still like her for other reasons, but I hate, hate, hate when people use that "women don't like me" shit. Haha, I'm a real ass sometimes and I have zero issues with my female friends!

[lunastartron]

I keep reading that Kathryn misconstrued what Erika said . . . even though she noted when relaying the conversation to the other women that the metaphor might have been inaccurate and clarified what she understood the general message to be.

What Erika said was considerably worse from my perspective.

 

For what it's worth, Kathryn just stated on WWHL that OJ's defense wanted her and Marcus to testify and that she fought the subpoena.

[charming]

Erika was trying to plant the seed that LVP was a manipulator who wasn't to be trusted. I'm glad Kathryn told the other women. Erika has mostly kept her contempt for the others to herself so this is probably the first time LVP is hearing it. 

[swankie]

I agree.  I love LVP, but I didn't think any of her apologies were actual sincere apologies.  They seemed more like, "Okay, you whiny little bitch, I apologize for fuck's sake.  Ay yi yi."  And that's what I took away from the first apology.  

 

Is it really *that* hard to say, "I"m really sorry, Eileen."  And leave it at that?

 

I think it's very hard to say "I'm really sorry" when you're not really sorry.  Maybe Lisa doesn't think she did anything wrong.  Like another poster said, it was no different than Eileen asking Kim those really personal questions about her "sobriety" last season when Kim had adamantly said she didn't want to talk about it.  I don't remember Eileen apologizing to Kim at all.  Eileen needs to accept that Lisa at one point uttered the words "sorry" and "apologize" and leave it at that.  She's never going to change how Lisa feels about what she said.  It's not like Lisa revealed this huge secret Eileen didn't want anyone to know about.  Eileen outed herself.  Let it go ff sake!

[RedheadZombie]

Eileen thought Kathryn was too smart to repeat what Erika said?  Hasn't Eileen done this at least twice?  She repeated Yolanda's bipolar comment to Rinna, and repeated Rinna's Munchausen's comment to Yolanda.  Maybe Eileen is actually questioning the intent behind Kathryn's tattling?

 

I get strangely uncomfortable when there's tension between Eileen and LVP.  I have my issues with both of them, so it's difficult to take sides, and the side changes frequently.  Eileen has the intelligence to take on Lisa, but not the stealth or mental fortitude.

 

I don't think "not to whisper" is the first thing Yo taught her kids. Probably "carbs are the devil" or "Google is considered a valid medical opinion".

 

Correction:  Don't whisper in a group of women.  Men (apparently) are fair game. 

[WireWrap]

I think it's very hard to say "I'm really sorry" when you're not really sorry.  Maybe Lisa doesn't think she did anything wrong.  Like another poster said, it was no different than Eileen asking Kim those really personal questions about her "sobriety" last season when Kim had adamantly said she didn't want to talk about it.  I don't remember Eileen apologizing to Kim at all.  Eileen needs to accept that Lisa at one point uttered the words "sorry" and "apologize" and leave it at that.  She's never going to change how Lisa feels about what she said.  It's not like Lisa revealed this huge secret Eileen didn't want anyone to know about.  Eileen outed herself.  Let it go ff sake!

IMO, Eileen was worse with/to Kim than Lisa ever was with her. Kim told her she "didn't want to talk about it" yet Eileen kept pressing and, like you said, Eileen never stopped AND she never apologized to Kim at all. Eileen never told Lisa she "didn't want to talk about it" AND Lisa DID apologize to her 3 different dang times!

[walnutqueen]

So, after the fact Eileen tells the camera she doesn't want an LVP apology, is over the apology, it's not about the apology - she just wants LVP to "own it".  Eileen just wants to beat a dead horse and talk in circles about her feels.  She should just pay a therapist, if that's the case.

 

If I had Vanderbucks, I'd need animal sanctuary zoning, because I'd have a hundred times more critters than Lisa & Ken!   :-)

[BlackMamba]

So, after the fact Eileen tells the camera she doesn't want an LVP apology, is over the apology, it's not about the apology - she just wants LVP to "own it". Eileen just wants to beat a dead horse and talk in circles about her feels. She should just pay a therapist, if that's the case.

I' ll say it once and I'll say it again Eileen needs to see a therapist if she hasn't already. Because if after 11 yrs and some change she's still getting sensitive and in her feelings about her own extramarital affair then she doesn't feel good about something.

It was one thing when Brandi brought it up because we all know Brandi's history. But LVP brings it up she still has the same response. Something is not adding up. I mean she might love Vincent and of course their child they made together but to live with the fact she ruined her marriage and someone's else probably has never escaped her. She might still feel guilt, which to me, I like. Too many people these days take pride in breaking up relationships and marriages these days.

Edited February 24, 2016 by BlackMamba

[WireWrap]

Yolanda's blog!   https://yolandasblog613.wordpress.com/2016/02/24/episode-613/

 

Odd that she didn't submit it to Bravo but I am sure they will NOT be happy that she mentions "production" AND for some reason (Brandi filling her ears up with BS most likely) she thinks Kyle is a producer on THIS show! She is really, really wacked out IMO!

[BlackMamba]

Yolanda's blog! https://yolandasblog613.wordpress.com/2016/02/24/episode-613/

Odd that she didn't submit it to Bravo but I am sure they will NOT be happy that she mentions "production" AND for some reason (Brandi filling her ears up with BS most likely) she thinks Kyle is a producer on THIS show! She is really, really wacked out IMO!

Thats why she has it posted on her own site. Teresa G, Nene, Tamra etc have all posted blogs a time or two when they call out production when it comes to the editing on their own websites. Bravo only gives themselves away if they reject blogs like this because it goes back to the suspicion they are overly producing their shows. Yet the idiot women need to understand they sign their names on the contracts for them to be exploited any type of way for entertainment purposes. In the case of Yolanda, she's losing her narrative dealing with Lymes and the other women. So yeah she's imploding. Edited February 24, 2016 by BlackMamba

[ElDosEquis]

Ladies take note, here is how I would deal with Yo at this point:

Gee Yo, sorry we have not been able to visit, lunch, communicate more, but you have been so sick with da Lyme's.

Every time she brings up her grievances and stories I would remind her that she is probably remembering things wrong due to her Lyme brain.

Turn the loony lady's stories back on her lame, Lyme ass

Fuck that, I'd tell her that I was afraid I was going to get it, since she and her two kids have it.

 

I'd become 'uneducated about lyme' and see what happens after that,

[yourmomiseasy]

Yo is a condescending haughty bitch.  If anything was ridiculous at that lunch, it was the way Yolanda was talking.  It appears that writing scathing emails is firmly in her wheel house.  Where does she get off scolding Kyle like she's a non-Gigi?  I also wonder if integrity was a new vocab word for her or if maybe it had recently come up on her word a day calendar.  If she's so worried about integrity, she needs to lay off the hyperbole.

 

I'm tired of Eileen's messy shit stirring under the guise of needing closure, especially on non-issues or issues that have absolutely nothing to do with her.

 

I watched the previous episode before this one and was already getting a headache from Erika's shrieking and cackling.  Seriously, her cackling laugh is the worst.  So I had very little tolerance for her this episode.  

 

 

I feel cheated - I really wanted to see how LVP gracefully exited the floating pink flamingo without getting her wedges or dress wet.

 

She probably has a few men on staff for that. 

 

Of course Lisa Rinna is friends with Jenny McCarthy.

[BlackMamba]

Of course Lisa Rinna is friends with Jenny McCarthy.

Rinna has Hollywood friends everywhere. She even was there for Kris Jenner after she got booed this past weekend at some event and naturally she didn't miss the chance at a photo-op.

[yourmomiseasy]

Rinna has Hollywood friends everywhere. She even was there for Kris Jenner after she got booed this past weekend at some event and naturally she didn't miss the chance at a photo-op.

 

I just meant that I find them equally annoying and sloppy, so it makes sense to me that they are friends.

[ElDosEquis]

Yo should hook up with Jenny Mac, she cured autism - didn't she?

 

Yo didn't have anything 'in the vault' and she did the slow burn until 3 a.m...She was pissed off about lunch and was stewing her her own shit and finally came up with the way to strike back at Kyle because she needed to show that she was bad ass, she had to CC it to everyone else. A chicken shit move on the face of it.

[ElDosEquis]

Thats why she has it posted on her own site. Teresa G, Nene, Tamra etc have all posted blogs a time or two when they call out production when it comes to the editing on their own websites. Bravo only gives themselves away if they reject blogs like this because it goes back to the suspicion they are overly producing their shows. Yet the idiot women need to understand they sign their names on the contracts for them to be exploited any type of way for entertainment purposes. In the case of Yolanda, she's losing her narrative dealing with Lymes and the other women. So yeah she's imploding.

Come on.....she's just downloading what she feels.

 

She wants to start a non profit and download a book.

 

Her writing an e-mail and being able to download it to the other women was amazing and inspirational.

 

Her mentioning Aids/HIV is sure to get someone irritated.

[LilaFowler]

Eileen always puts her foot in her mouth and inserts herself unnecessarily.  Her fumbling was cringe-worthy.  Lisa VDP had beef with Erika for about two seconds until Eileen threw herself in front of the bullets.  So clumsy.

 

Kathryn is another foolish one.  When she told the table what Erika said about Lisa VDP, I thought, "oh, so that's why Erika says that she can't trust women."  That was such a nasty thing to do.

 

These women all hate each other, don't they? 

[swankie]

Eileen always puts her foot in her mouth and inserts herself unnecessarily.  Her fumbling was cringe-worthy.  Lisa VDP had beef with Erika for about two seconds until Eileen threw herself in front of the bullets.  So clumsy.

 

Kathryn is another foolish one.  When she told the table what Erika said about Lisa VDP, I thought, "oh, so that's why Erika says that she can't trust women."  That was such a nasty thing to do.

 

These women all hate each other, don't they? 

 

I think the worst thing Kathryn did was totally misquote Erika.  Even if the sentiment of what Kathryn said was the same, you can't go around putting words in someone else's mouth.  Erika never uttered the words "Don't get caught in her web".  The way Kathryn said it makes it look like Erika was calling Lisa a spider.  Hell, her husband already called her an alligator.  This isn't going to make Lisa very fond of the Girardis. 

 

The thing is, I don't fault Kathryn too bad on runtellingdat to Lisa.  After all, Erika has proven that she does the same damned thing.  She ran back and told Yolanda everything the others were saying about her, and now that I think about it, she did a lot of misquoting too.  Now she can see how it feels when someone does it to her.

[Reo]

I like Eileen a lot, but I do question her taste in men.  I'm not going to judge her for her affair, actors and actresses are notorious for fidelity issues.  But she was married to Jon Lindstrom, one of the most intelligent, handsome, and sexy guys on soaps IMHO.  

 

I just wish I had known at the time so I could have comforted him.

[BlackMamba]

Her mentioning Aids/HIV is sure to get someone irritated.

Thats nothing. She even made her Lymes a big deal after Big Ang passed from cancer. She's trying too hard to make herself the face of Lyme Disease.

[WireWrap]

Thats nothing. She even made her Lymes a big deal after Big Ang passed from cancer. She's trying too hard to make herself the face of Lyme Disease.

Well, you know Yolanda's suffering from her "invisible disease" is just as intense as Big Ang's suffering/death from terminal Lung/Brain Cancer and deserves the same amount of sympathy, support and recognition. She really needs some intense help IMO, INTENSE!

[cooksdelight]

I was having flashbacks to the Lifetime series "UnREAL" about how reality shows are produced. I kept seeing whatshername, the producer, hiding in the bushes yelling at Eileen "OK, GO FOR IT!!!!! Lay into LVP about your affair and how you brought it up, but it's all her fault and she needs to apologize to you for the umpteenth time!!!!!"

[Atwood]

I would have been on Kathryn's side if she hadn't done that whole "I'll be the first woman friend you can trust"-spiel with Erika. It makes her seem really phony when she makes that kind of declaration (to someone she barely knows) and then immediately tattles on her. Although to be fair, I think she's just very inarticulate--she could have said "I want to get to know you better", that would have been more truthful and made her seem like less of a douche-bag. 

 

Aside from that, it's ridiculous for Erika to pretend that she has some kind of insight into Lisa when she's only spent a few hours with her. She so clearly is just repeating what she's heard from Yolanda and Eileen.  

Edited February 24, 2016 by Atwood

[cooksdelight]

Atwood, adding to what you are saying about Erika, I do think there is some jealousy at how her husband talked to LVP at dinner. He was clearly enamored with Lisa, and very intrigued by her. Maybe he was like that with Erika in the beginning, but now he sees her as his trophy that he can shush.

[film noire]

I guess it depends on what she's trying to accomplish - could be about emotional closure (feeling like they're on the same page), or maybe Eileen meant to out Lisa. Who knows.

 

I like Eileen, but if you're going to play the I Have Needs card and (basically) center yourself in the conversation, you should do it with a more nimble grace than someone on "My 600-lb Life".  She looked a bit foolish and very needy (and ungracious, pulling this shit as an invited guest -- and one who arrived empty-handed).  

 

And if she's genuinely looking to take down LVP, she needs better tactics than this sad-assed approach.  "You didn't apologize the right way!" has all the resonance of a bird fart.  LisaV adores being British -- start mocking LVP's unEnglish sensibilities about asking personal questions. Give LVP a nickname riffing on her being a snoop. When LVP offers to tell you anything about herself,  laugh and say "I think it's SO great you love to talk about yourself! Me, I can only chatter about books and politics and art!" Offer LVP your arm when she's tottering about on those ridiculous high heels (which give Lisa a more feeble gait than the 106 year old woman Obama just danced with). Laugh and be charming -- and make the things LisaV prides herself on the butt of every joke -- anything but returning over and over to a dry well, expecting your inner tears will be cherished and then gathered close by LVP. 

 

But Eileen won't do that. She'll continue to pout, and -- like Nessie in the loch -- this friggin' topic will rise again and LVP will throw her hands up and say "Darling, I said I was sorry five times over. Life's too short, let's just agree to be civil, shall we?"

 

And that's why LVP is boss hog in the swineyard.

 

And at this point, I kinda love her for it. I have surrendered my good sense. My personal boundaries have been breached. I am finally saluting the woman for still being in charge of herself, in charge of the group dynamic -- and somehow managing to remain relatively unscathed after a billion minutes on this show -- she's the one.

Edited February 24, 2016 by film noire

[Atwood]

Eileen is getting on my last nerve with her blog. She completely misses the point with Lisa giving her a hard time, she was clearly trying to give Eileen a dose of her own medicine. And Eileen didn't like the taste of it one bit!

 

Also, for someone who thinks that LVP should be completely concerned with Eileen's feelings, Eileen sure seems DISMISSIVE of how Lisa is FEELING attacked.

 

I find it really annoying when they treat their coworkers as though they have some kind of familiar or bff type relationship, with that kind of responsibility. Not every single little feeling needs to be worked over and "resolved", she's not in therapy here. Sometimes it's a lot more sensible to sweep things under the rug and then use what you've learned to modify future expectations on the other person accordingly. It's a coworker, not a spouse; the emotional stakes should be relatively close to non-existent. 

Edited February 24, 2016 by Atwood

[motorcitymom65]

Yolanda's blog!   https://yolandasblog613.wordpress.com/2016/02/24/episode-613/

 

Odd that she didn't submit it to Bravo but I am sure they will NOT be happy that she mentions "production" AND for some reason (Brandi filling her ears up with BS most likely) she thinks Kyle is a producer on THIS show! She is really, really wacked out IMO!

Wow, the full context of Yo's letter to Kyle might be the most interesting thing thus far. She seems to be responding to some plea from Kyle to participate more and is defending the fact that she cannot. Her words that they have two new girls that can help make the show successful is extremely interesting. She certainly seems to imply that Kyle has a bigger role in the production of the show, almost as if it is a known fact. Her parting words that they should get together on their own for coffee gives the impression of a real relationship. It is just confusing, and I can see why Bravo wouldn't post her blog.

[motorcitymom65]

Eileen is getting on my last nerve with her blog. She completely misses the point with Lisa giving her a hard time, she was clearly trying to give Eileen a dose of her own medicine. And Eileen didn't like the taste of it one bit!

 

Also, for someone who thinks that LVP should be completely concerned with Eileen's feelings, Eileen sure seems DISMISSIVE of how Lisa is FEELING attacked.

 

I find it really annoying when they treat their coworkers as though they have some kind of familiar or bff type relationship, with that kind of responsibility. Not every single little feeling needs to be worked over and "resolved", she's not in therapy here. Sometimes it's a lot more sensible to sweep things under the rug and then use what you've learned to modify future expectations on the other person accordingly. It's a coworker, not a spouse; the emotional stakes should be relatively close to non-existent.

I get what you are saying, but as much as we talk about them being co-workers, and know that this is the real truth of these relationships, they act like they are friends. In order to buy the premise of the show, we have to take our cues from them, and they act like they are hanging out with each other because they want to. No one on the show ever says "I'm only at this party because it's my job". They act like they are friends and that they want to participate in these relationships. They cannot then turn around and say "none of this matters because they are just people I work with".

[ottergirl]

I thought Eileen was the first person to actually call LVP out in an articulate, cogent way.

 

I agree.  The problem is, the "offense" was pretty mild (bringing up Eileen's "love affair" with her husband) and pretty old.  So even though Eileen's larger point was right on, in my opinion - that LVP has to control every interaction and has to "win" every conversation - the example she used to make it made Eileen look petty.  So in the end, in my opinion, her point was unlikely to change the mind of any LVP fan.  Although I do think, based on both Kyle and LVP's reactions, that they both realized that Eileen sees RIGHT through LVP's game.  

 

I also believe, weird as it is, that the interaction did fundamentally change Eileen's opinion of LVP, whom she had always held in high regard.  Eileen's blog says essentially the same thing.  I think throughout the first season, Eileen genuinely was delighted by LVP, like a fan of the show, and was startled to see that side of her.  Kyle was probably like, "been there, lived through that, not doing it again."

 

I think the opportunity to take LVP down was best made several seasons ago, when LVP went hard after Kyle and Mauricio.  That was as vicious as she has ever been caught being on camera, and going after someone's business integrity and marriage is a low blow.  The problem is that a) everyone hated Kyle then, so no one felt sorry for her, and b) Brandi co-opted that storyline to make it about LVP befriending Scheana, wanting the real "betrayal" to be LVP of Brandi, not LVP of Kyle.  Because Brandi muddied the waters, it made them look like they were ganging up; then Yolanda pretended that Ken assaulted her, and then LVP really looked like a victim.  Bottom line - they messed up the best chance they would ever have, and LVP in my opinion is never going to be dumb enough to be that blatant again.  The most she'll do is what she did with Eileen - bring up things sideways that might be a little bit uncomfortable, and act like she doesn't know why they're uncomfortable.  It's just not that much of an offense, in the scheme of things.  I don't think this season's takedown will work.

 

If anyone has not read Yolanda's "non Bravo approved" blog, it really is a must read.  They'll never post it - way too much about production.  I did have some sympathy for Yolanda - I do believe that the women were giving her a hard time for not being more present for filming, and she really was showing up when she could. Whatever her craziness (and there is craziness), I believe she did not feel well and that going on camera in a combative situation was probably difficult.

 

That said:  Yolanda.  Yo - LAN - da.  (Kyle voice.)  DARLING.  You are the problem here.  LVP and Kyle were whispering about you and Rinna.  Of course they were.  You were out for blood. Then you hugged.  It wasn't over.  No one thought it was over.  Not even you, much as you like to claim otherwise, now.  And as Kyle said on twitter last night, at a table with six people talking, two of them having a side conversation is - just - it's what you do.  It's not nefarious.  But Yolanda saw it as yet another opportunity to turn a group on LVP, and she tried it.  Yolanda was the one at the table who kept escalating, who kept trying to make the fight bigger and bigger, while at the same time, accusing Kyle of picking a fight! How could she not see that?  And this thing where she is now trying to build a narrative that LVP went after her kids is crazy.  

 

LVP, since I know you or your staff reads every word on the internet, at the reunion, make sure to draw the connection: it IS like the time Yo accused Ken of hitting her.  Yolanda for some reason really wants to make LVP look bad, and she WILL make things up to make that happen. People remember the Ken thing.  You can present this as another example of that - trying to create a harm that didn't exist. 

 

It's also funny, all season (even in her blogs, meaning even as of three weeks ago), Yolanda has been kind to Kyle, leaving Kyle out of her fights with LVP.  Obviously hoping Kyle would move over to her team, and isolate LVP completely.  I guess that she's given up on that, because this last blog went hard on Kyle, and paired the two of them together.  Maybe she hopes that with Erica and Eileen on her team, she doesn't need Kyle.  We'll see.

 

So the teams now - Kyle, LVP, Kathryn

 

Yolanda, Erica, Eileen 

 

Eileen and Lisa Rinna

 

I think Eileen and Kyle are good together, although not sure Eileen and LVP are.

 

I think Erica and Kyle are fine too.  But not Erica and LVP.

 

Not sure where Kyle and Lisa Rinna stand.  I think Kyle might be angry at Lisa Rinna, but Lisa Rinna tweeted something nice at Kyle last night.  I think Lisa Rinna might be down to just Eileen as a friend.

 

Sorry for the unfocused post.  I do think the dynamics of the group are getting complicated, in a good way.

 

And to summarize:  LVP is manipulative and they're going after her, but I don't think she'll get caught out.  Yolanda is manipulative but I'm not sure she'll get caught either - as I said in another post, I think Andy is going to protect her. 

 

OH and one last thing - did anyone else notice, near the very end of the Yolanda fight scene at lunch, when Kyle was finally really upset, after LVP had left, Kyle said something to Yo and the camera was on Yo, and she had her hand covering her mouth, but you could CLEARLY see the smile underneath, which she was covering up.  I see you. Yolanda.  LITERALLY.

[mwell345]

Let me make sure I have this straight. Poor, pitiful, brain fogged Yolanda hasn't been to the gym in forever, hasn't walked the beach in forever, but manages to instagram constantly, and threaten Kyle with "what's in the vault" and then manages to send Kyle a scolding email and in spite of her brain fog, also remembers to cc all the other women.

 

She can take her "integrity" and stick it. So over her.

 

And  brain fogged Yolanda, with all her issues, can still focus on the fact that she wants to take LVP down and using Brandi didn't work, so she's enlisted her new lap dog Erica. 

 

Sounds like she is able to think pretty clearly when it suits her. 

 

(And I didn't blame LVP one bit for walking out of that lunch. Kyle should have been right behind her.  How exhausting it must be do deal with smirking, santimonious, holier than thou Yolanda. )

Edited February 24, 2016 by mwell345

[film noire]

From Yoblanda's blog:

 

"I am 100% Dutch and proud of it, any one that was raised with a Germanic language will agree that our tone is strong especially once translated into English."

 

And yet, she cannot spell "Munchausen", a German word. (And Moses on one of LVP's ponies, is that game getting old. Her blog post has two more rounds of Medical See and Spell -- Manshausen and Munchhausen -- cousins of the Baron, I suppose --  but she sure can spell this Lyme related word correctly, and in all caps: NEUROBORRELIOSIS.)

Edited February 24, 2016 by film noire

[zoeysmom]

I find it humorous Yolanda goes home and "marinates" over the situation.  Not ruminates or digests.  To me, marinating is an enhancement to the foodstuff.  I think she means she wants to break things down.

 

The best words to describe Yolanda, stubborn, ignorant, entitled and not very interesting.

[kokapetl]

Lisa always makes it clear that she's only apologizing because the other person has a bee in their bonnet, not because the other person deserves an apology from Lisa.

[zoeysmom]

Wow, the full context of Yo's letter to Kyle might be the most interesting thing thus far. She seems to be responding to some plea from Kyle to participate more and is defending the fact that she cannot. Her words that they have two new girls that can help make the show successful is extremely interesting. She certainly seems to imply that Kyle has a bigger role in the production of the show, almost as if it is a known fact. Her parting words that they should get together on their own for coffee gives the impression of a real relationship. It is just confusing, and I can see why Bravo wouldn't post her blog.

Or Yolanda is just making shit up as usual and thinks Kyle is saying that about her.  Yolanda is getting for a full time gig and she has no problems taking a Canadian vacation smack dab in the middle of filming.  I am curious if at all the runway shows if the 30-50 models all have their parents show up to watch them walk.  It would seem like it would be a pretty good percentage of the audience. 

[CrinkleCutCat]

Methinks YoLemonLymes is getting a negative edit from the Bravo monkeys.... We are seeing a lot more of the bitchy seems to be articulate now Yo, including death stares, than ever before.

Methinks YoLemonLymes is getting a negative edit from the Bravo monkeys.... We are seeing a lot more of the bitchy seems to be articulate now Yo, including death stares, than ever before.

Edit: which I personally think is about time!

Edited February 24, 2016 by CrinkleCutCat

[lawyergal]

Kathryn did not say that she was subpoenaed by the defense in the OJ trial. She said that she was subpoenaed, period, and fought it. It could have been for the prosecution. And, she refused to say OJ was guilty. After seeing her on WWHL, and on episode last night, I'm convinced she's a complete idiot and way out of her league. And, she also said she's forgiven Faye Resnick, so, so much for that big deal.

 

The issue I had with Kyle at the lunch with Yolanda was this - she's complaining that everything is getting swept under the rug. Hello, Kyle is the queen of that when she's involved in the drama. Rinna wasn't there, so even if it was being swept under the rug, it wasn't the right time to talk to Yolanda about it, AND it wasn't Kyle's issue to resolve regardless. It is rude to have a conversation about someone at the table, within earshot of that person. In typical Kyle fashion, she's all for stirring the pot for drama she thinks she's not involved in (the bi-polar comment), because she likes to be involved from the sidelines. It just backfired this time.