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Discussion of the hosts regarding a specific episode is fine here, but generalized discussion of the hosts go in the The Hosts Thread: Joe and Mika Know Their Value. 

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15 minutes ago, Landsnark said:

Could it be that Mika is out of clean clothes?  Today she wore Monday's gypsy witch black shawl and Monday's Lily Pulitzer T turned inside out.
It's jarring to see her dressed so casually on TV while most other people are in suits.
 

This is (essentially) what she wore on Monday.  Her job is to appear as an image on TV. 

OK what's on her lap? It looks like a skunk's tail. 

I would say if Mika is having a hard time shopping her closet,  order some clothes online. It's easy. 

Also, Mika, tune into Rachel's show and see how to build a work uniform. 

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1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

I don't think Joe killed her but I would not be remotely surprised if he wasn't involved with her, and was terrified that would come out. 

They could have been at the office earlier and he could have left and she had the seizure or whatever.  His behavior is pretty fishy.   It reeks of guilty of something, probably another extra marital affair. 

Wouldn't  it be more appropriate that Joe issue a statement of condolence and let the family speak for Lori?  Esp since her parents said there was no history of heart problems? 

 

 

Yeah...that whole situation has always stunk to high heaven to me as well.  I agree, Doucheborough may not have been directly involved in her death but I think he was involved tangentially somehow with how that all played out. His reasons for stepping down from Congress at that time never rang true to me. 

Hypothetically, can he sue Trump for slander in tweeting something like this? Just curious.

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11 minutes ago, HC87 said:

Yeah...that whole situation has always stunk to high heaven to me as well.  I agree, Doucheborough may not have been directly involved in her death but I think he was involved tangentially somehow with how that all played out. His reasons for stepping down from Congress at that time never rang true to me. 

Hypothetically, can he sue Trump for slander in tweeting something like this? Just curious.

I think Joe could sue for libel.

 

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I was watching Mika interview the Gov. of Rhode Island, who was professionally dressed, while Mika was wearing that black sweater and white t-shirt, which was better than the flower print t-shirt and black sweater, but come on!  She has heard of online shopping, right?

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Mika has a closet full of clothes. There is no reason she can't look better.  She is taking this "I'm 50 and dont give AF" thing  too far. 

Next thing we know she'll be broadcasting from a van down by the river. 

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If Mika wants some kind of "trademark" outfit like Rachel's, she should follow Elizabeth Warren's example of having the same style but different color sweaters.

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Should I be catty?  Yes, let's be catty.  I am surprised that she posted that picture - it is not flattering; you can see every line and the gobs of makeup.  Plus the way she is posing, all the skin slides downward.  I know she needs that sort of makeup for the Show, but not for posting pics on Instagram.  I will lap from my saucer of cream now.  She is a very attractive woman but can't seem to just relax and "be".  Sad.  Yes, Rachel Maddow could give a master class.

 

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That is not a great angle to take a photo. Even younger women will show a bit of sag at the jaw if you have your chin down toward your neck. 

But remember, she doesn't care!! All that plastic surgery was just a tax write off for Joe!! 

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5 hours ago, debbie311 said:

I was watching Mika interview the Gov. of Rhode Island, who was professionally dressed, while Mika was wearing that black sweater and white t-shirt, which was better than the flower print t-shirt and black sweater, but come on!  She has heard of online shopping, right?

Mika used to brag about being able to use Joe's credit card after she got engaged to Joe. She use to ask him for his card on the show & he would give her his wallet on air. She would take the card out of his wallet & then flash it to the cameras & smile at her upcoming shopping sprees.

I suspect that Joe has restricted Mika's access to his card in the past few months.

There are rumors that Mika made several purchases of sheet cake & vodka from Publix -Jupiter Florida without Joe's permission.

 

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Joe thinks President Trump is dismissing Dr. Fauci's warnings about coronavirus. 

Joe is ranting about Trump and not making any sense.  He carried on a dialogue for more than 5 minutes without letting anyone else talk.

He yelled about Trump and said that the president believes in leprechauns, fairies, and pixie dust. 

He seems really anxious about something. Something is wrong when Mika is the calm one.

They put orange pancake makeup on Joe, and it is not good.  He looks like a corpse.

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Joe: "Donald, hey put down your phone and listen."

Joe:  "It's happening Donald."

Joe needs help with his obsession with getting attention from the president. Joe acts like a scorned lover.

Also, it is kind of inappropriate to call the president by his first name.  But, I work for the government and have to use formal titles for everyone, even the ones I don't like.

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I have not watched/listened to the show for 10 days since I have no commute now.  Today I came into work, to just now hear Mika introduce a piece by describing the writer as "Pulitzer Prize whizzing".  Comforting to know that although the world is falling down around us, Mika remains unchanged.  At the end, it will be the roaches and Mika--and she will probably refer to the roaches as "rutches" or something like that....

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2 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

Joe needs help with his obsession with getting attention from the president. Joe acts like a scorned lover.

It's like Ted Cruz said, he chases Trump like a teenage girl who throws her panties at the boy band. 

Did Mika read the scathing reviews on her wardrobe? She actually had an attractive pink sweater top thing on this morning. See Mika, was that so hard? 

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27 minutes ago, WhineandCheez said:

Today I came into work, to just now hear Mika introduce a piece by describing the writer as "Pulitzer Prize whizzing".  Comforting to know that although the world is falling down around us, Mika remains unchanged.

She has a habit where she hesitates for a split second when she encounters a word on the teleprompter she's worried about pronouncing. It's just long enough for me to think "uh oh".

I was actually kind of impressed with Historian Joe during the 1619 discussion.

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I was hoping to learn something from the panel discussion this morning on The 1619 Project, but, I was disappointed.  It never seemed to come together, imo.  It seemed that Joe was off.  And, the way he introduced the panelists.....something about how glad he got them, because, no one else wanted to do it. lol  Thanks Joe.  How flattering.   

Perhaps, I needed a tutorial on the matter first.  I found this piece from one of the panelists, Leslie Harris,  today and it helped me understand it better.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/06/1619-project-new-york-times-mistake-122248

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Joe's rants about Trump are very repetitive. It amazes me how any guests of the show don't start laughing at him.

Joe got very defensive over having to apologize over retweeting Jimmy Kimmel's edited video of Pence.

Joe was also upset over having to defend Chuck Todd 's edited video of Bill Barr.

Joe gets upset too easily. It is nice of him to spend his days telling his "educated friends" that  Trump's conspiracy theories are false.

Why isn't Joe spending more time with world leaders instead of his educated friends.?

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On 5/13/2020 at 2:44 PM, Ohwell said:

If Mika wants some kind of "trademark" outfit like Rachel's, she should follow Elizabeth Warren's example of having the same style but different color sweaters.

Mika used to wear a collection of scarfs from various religious denominations.

I am sad that she no longer wears the scarfs.

I used to love guessing which denomination she would would wear on a given day.

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Joe is off today. 

Mika is doing her  best imitation of Joe's outrage talking points about Covid-19.  All this does is show me that Mika can't carry a show by herself unless it is straight news reading.

I wonder what Joe does during his Fridays off.   Like, is he sleeping or maybe hanging out at his ex Susan's house.  

David Ignatius is on the show today.  I was wondering whether we would see him again.  He is allegedly the reporter who received leaks regarding Michael Flynn.

Jeremy Bash is appearing live from what appears to be a million dollar home with a panoramic view of some woods.  I love these one percenters showing off their wealth on TV.   Dana Bash left Jeremy Bash for John King. 

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Mika interviewed Steve Rattner about the economic downturn from Covid-19.  Steve says that women are hurt more by the Covid-19 job losses than men.  Mika told Steve that women who follow her Know Your Value program are less likely to lose jobs.  Why is Mika allowed to promote Know Your Value during a broadcast?  Seems like a conflict to me.

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Meeka went from that nice pink top yesterday (it looked great on her) to the black funereal today.  But it fit!  So.  Progress.

Please tell me she did not bring up KYV with Steve Rattner.  This is truly shameful.  Or as they say in my British costume movies...Beyond the Pale.

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2 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

Mika told Steve that women who follow her Know Your Value program are less likely to lose jobs

Women who follow your KYV bullshit are either CEO's, your interns, or wealthy white ladies who married well and don't need to work. 

I guess fucking the boss and having that to black mail him with would tend to help the job security issue. 

Fuck off. 

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Mika doesn't understand how to use "mockery" in a sentence.  The US is the subject of mockery is what I believe she's trying to say.  

 

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8 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

Joe is off today. 

Mika is doing her  best imitation of Joe's outrage talking points about Covid-19.  All this does is show me that Mika can't carry a show by herself unless it is straight news reading.

I wonder what Joe does during his Fridays off.   Like, is he sleeping or maybe hanging out at his ex Susan's house.  

Jeremy Bash is appearing live from what appears to be a million dollar home with a panoramic view of some woods.  I love these one percenters showing off their wealth on TV.   Dana Bash left Jeremy Bash for John King. 

I think that one of Mika's minions reads this forum. I complained yesterday about Mika not wearing scarves from various religious denominations. Today, Mika decided to wear a black scarf with some silver stripes that complemented her black sweater. I think this is what Greek Orthodox women wear when they are in mourning.

They could be preparing to rename the show Mourning Joe, since they are very sad about the situation in America under president Trump.

Joe took the day off after sending out a tweet last night about how shocked he was that the death rates in Florida nursing homes  were much lower than experts predicted. Gov Desantis didn't send Coronavirus patients to nursing homes.

Joe was very upset that many people that replied to his tweet complained about NY Governor Cuomo's decision to send people with positive tests for Coronavirus who were in hospital back to nursing homes if they were otherwise stable.  There have been 5,000 deaths in NY state nursing homes & Cuomo had to reverse his policy.

Joe had spent hours coming up with talking points to bash Gov DeSantis & he couldn't use them. He can't complain about the situation in Florida until it deteriorates further.

Joe wants to become Governor of Florida & wants De Santis to step down and appoint Joe as his replacement. The Lt Governor would also have to agree to step aside for Joe, but given Joe's popularity, it's no brainer.

 

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11 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

Joe is off today. 

Mika is doing her  best imitation of Joe's outrage talking points about Covid-19.  All this does is show me that Mika can't carry a show by herself unless it is straight news reading.

I wonder what Joe does during his Fridays off.   Like, is he sleeping or maybe hanging out at his ex Susan's house.  

David Ignatius is on the show today.  I was wondering whether we would see him again.  He is allegedly the reporter who received leaks regarding Michael Flynn.

Jeremy Bash is appearing live from what appears to be a million dollar home with a panoramic view of some woods.  I love these one percenters showing off their wealth on TV.   Dana Bash left Jeremy Bash for John King. 

I lol-ed at multiple points. Thank you! 😂 

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Joe is acting like a smartass and making fun of the president.  Joe ran through the same five talking points about January.

Joe noted that the president tweeted about Morning Joe.  He seems proud that the president tweets about that.

Joe solemnly said that he is praying for everyone, including Mika's mom and Jonathan Lemire's mom.  Joe  really cares.  

Joe said that the president told people not to get tested for Covid-19.

Joe said that the president made up a conspiracy about him.  

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Jonathan Lemire has a great poker face - probably because his job depends on it. When Joe did the "I'm nothing but a simple country lawyer" bit, Lemire nodded solemnly and said, "I've heard that mentioned" without the slightest trace of a facial expression.

(I usually watch Dr. Fauci's reactions when the President is spewing nonsense. Although he's good, occasionally he does reveal his feelings.)

Why don't they provide phonetic pronunciations for the tele-promoter reader? She had a really hard time with Shaves. (I probably would have gone with Chavez, but she even stumbled over the name as if it were the past tense of shave.)

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Does Joe think we have short term memory loss? He keeps giving us the timeline about what Trump said about the number of covid cases again and again and again and again. . . . 

I think it is disrespectful the way Joe just leaves the studio when some people are interviewed. If you're not a friend or are talking about something he doesn't care about, it's a crapshoot as to whether he will think you are worth his time. 

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I watched the first half hour today. Long enough to self diagnose myself with anxiety and depression triggered by this show. And also to see what looked like Katty wearing her dress backwards. 

I was hoping Joe would stray off the same old boring no news facts with Jonathan Lemire long enough to discuss MLB's return plans. Which BTW as a baseball fan I don't support. 

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Does Joe think we have short term memory loss? He keeps giving us the timeline about what Trump said about the number of covid cases again and again and again and again. . .

I honestly think he is actively baiting Trump with the hope that he will become enraged and either act more irrationally  or,  have a stroke.

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29 minutes ago, Me from ME said:

I honestly think he is actively baiting Trump with the hope that he will become enraged and either act more irrationally  or,  have a stroke.

True.  I think he wants to have Trump "mad" at him and tweeting about him.  It makes The Twins feel relevant; and they think it may make people forget how chummy they were with him just a few years ago.  Seems like decades, doesn't it?

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1 hour ago, Kemper said:

True.  I think he wants to have Trump "mad" at him and tweeting about him.  It makes The Twins feel relevant; and they think it may make people forget how chummy they were with him just a few years ago.  Seems like decades, doesn't it?

That's what Joe wants. Trump to tweet at him.  It's sick how desperate Joe is to be relevant. Trump tweets about CNN, WaPo, NYT and yells at the pool reporters, but Joe gets nothing. He's a spurned girlfriend who can't stop haranguing the ex to get attention. 

Joe as played by Glenn Close. 

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9 minutes ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

I hope Joe and Mika don't own a bunny. 😳

Ha! They dodged that bullet when Mika gave away her menagerie of barnyard creatures and followed Joe to FL.

More power to you hardy souls who can still stomach this show. I don't even do a drive-by anymore. I never thought I'd say this, but even their social media isn't worth spying on. They are just tired and old to me. Beyond boring. Irrelevant. 

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2 hours ago, teddysmom said:

That's what Joe wants. Trump to tweet at him.  It's sick how desperate Joe is to be relevant. Trump tweets about CNN, WaPo, NYT and yells at the pool reporters, but Joe gets nothing. He's a spurned girlfriend who can't stop haranguing the ex to get attention. 

Joe as played by Glenn Close. 

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The crazy thing is that Joe has provoked responses from the president. I don't remember the specifics, but I think there were at least two times the president tweeted during the show in apparent response to what Joe said.

And then there are the intern tweets.

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2 hours ago, plumbago blues said:

Ha! They dodged that bullet when Mika gave away her menagerie of barnyard creatures and followed Joe to FL.

More power to you hardy souls who can still stomach this show. I don't even do a drive-by anymore. I never thought I'd say this, but even their social media isn't worth spying on. They are just tired and old to me. Beyond boring. Irrelevant. 

I was hoping that Mika & Joe would do a special episode of Morning Joe when the barnyard animals were given away. I suspect Joe picked the gated community in Jupiter that did not allow chickens & pigs on the properties.

Joe was upset that Mika bought a pig & allowed him access to the kitchen. The pig's squeals would interrupt Joe's conversations with world leaders.

The show is getting very tough to watch.  I get very agitated when Joe insists on repeating his talking point of Trump's actions in January & February every day.

The range of guests on the show has declined. The only highlight this month was Mika interviewing VP Joe Biden.

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3 hours ago, plumbago blues said:

Ha! They dodged that bullet when Mika gave away her menagerie of barnyard creatures and followed Joe to FL.

More power to you hardy souls who can still stomach this show. I don't even do a drive-by anymore. I never thought I'd say this, but even their social media isn't worth spying on. They are just tired and old to me. Beyond boring. Irrelevant. 

I find myself feeling sorry for Lemire.  I think that he is just sticking in until he gets a regular guest or commentator gig somewhere else.  Sometimes he has a hard time hiding his impatience with Joe. 

I saw Richard Haas on another network today.  He used to be a regular but has not been on for a while.

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47 minutes ago, nittanycougar said:

I find myself feeling sorry for Lemire.  I think that he is just sticking in until he gets a regular guest or commentator gig somewhere else.  Sometimes he has a hard time hiding his impatience with Joe. 

I saw Richard Haas on another network today.  He used to be a regular but has not been on for a while.

Surviving being a panelist on Morning Joe can be very tough but good things come to those that wait.

I remember watching the show 10-12  years ago when Savannah Guthrie was on the White House lawn in the rain having to laugh & Mika & Joe's weird jokes while they were in the studio.

Mika was shocked when she lost the competition to Savannah for a co hosting job on the Today Show.

Mika's auditions were poorly received by audiences & she received a very low Q rating.

Mika was tormenting Kasie Hunt with the rockstar lightning bolt intro until she gave birth to her son.

Norah O Donell was a regular guest on Morning Joe & used to laugh very loudly at all of Joe's frat boy humor. She now anchors the CBS Evening News.

Nicole "Cackles Wallace" put up with Joe & Mika in 2016 & had to be very polite with candidate Trump when he was on the show. She had to say that her parents loved Trump every time he was on the show. She has her own show on MSNBC.

 

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I don't buy Joe's argument that Donald Trump is lying about taking Hydroxychoroquine. Because Joe had dinner once with DJT and saw him sanitize all nearby articles has nothing to do with whether he a) has changed his compulsions b) is doing both sanitizing and medicating himself.

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Joe is on by himself this morning.  

He says that the president is lying about taking hydroxycloriquine.

Joe reminisced about the time that he ate dinner with Trump.  Joe said Trump used hand wipes.  They stared deep into each other's eyes as they enjoyed the meal.

I think that it is ridiculous for Joe to claim to know what medicine the president takes.  Does Joe realize that the president has a medical staff at his disposal?  He is not like us.  I cannot even get my doctor on the phone FFS.

A statement from the president's White House physician confirmed he takes hydroxycloriquine.

 Hey Joe, you weirdo, what did the president eat for breakfast today based on your intimate knowledge?

I finally figured out my problem with Joe.  He has gotten so bad that he never finishes a complete thought.  He just rambles from one non sequitur to the next.

 

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I have never taken hydroxycloriquine but my understanding is that it is a common drug for lupus and some other autoimmune conditions.  Joe is acting like it just hit the market.

Dr. Vin Gupta was on the show.  He wore his scrubs which showed his medical expertise.  He was critical of the president for using hydroxycloriquine.

I perused Dr. Gupta's Twitter and he seems to be as much an activist as a doctor.  On Twitter, he is talking about Moderna vaccines. I am not saying he's wrong, I don't know.

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Heilman has moved out of the kitchen! (What is it with his fascination with the Wu Tang Clan?)

Everbody's background orchids look so much better than mine 😥

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The story and video of the former presidents at their portrait unveilings was so bittersweet, I was teary eyed.

I sorta like Neil Cavuto now. 

nitty, thanks for the info on Dr Vin Gupta.  I thought it was interesting when he started becoming an MSNBC regular.  I thought,  hey, MSNBC got their own Dr. Gupta (being a big Sanjay Gupta fan).

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2 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

A statement from the president's White House physician confirmed he takes hydroxycloriquine.

 

Interestingly, the statement did not confirm that the president was taking it. The statement simply said that they had talked about it and agreed the risks were outweighed by the benefits. That’s pretty weaselly to me.  But it very carefully skirted an outright admission.

I’m with Joe.

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