S04.E05: Cock Of The Walk

[Tara Ariano]

James seeks revenge when he's convinced Kristen is cheating on him. In other events, Lisa offers a tutorial on the art of fine wine; Scheana is given marital advice; Peter gets a new look; and a jealous Jax schemes to pull Lala away from James.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

Wait a second, did James just say getting it in?

[Shelby]

I'm trying to figure out how Lala could be less ordinary looking. Perhaps bleach her hair? Or dye it dark to make her blue eyes stand out? Just anything but that wavy dishwater-blonde hair.

[MrsRafaelBarba]

So I'm not the only one....

That noticed Peter's stylist, has Mon Chi Chi hair?

[ivygirl]

I want to know what being in "the Kristen business" would be like.

I'm trying to figure out how Lala could be less ordinary looking. Perhaps bleach her hair? Or dye it dark to make her blue eyes stand out? Just anything but that wavy dishwater-blonde hair.

Hush your mouth! She is NOT basic! She said so herself. ;)

[HunterHunted]

James is an epic douchelord! How could Kristen emerge the winner of the devolving shit show that was their relationship and break-up? The reason Kristen won is because she wanted to break up and walk away. James wanted to sit there belittle and berate Kristen, cheat on her, gaslight her, and accuse her of cheating. Then he's sitting around bragging and running victory laps like he won some shit. Newsflash twatwaffle! You've been on one date with Lala.

[ryebread]

At the end when they're doing shots, Jax looks down and the camera gets a downward shot of his face.  He looks like he's got 2 golf balls in his mouth.  I know some of  you don't like it when we talk about their looks but damn, he is really hard to look at.  It's not that he's unattractive - for me, it's actually difficult to focus on his face. It's so odd.  And disturbing. His features, his hair - on his head and face (muttonchops, really?) - are so greasy it distorts his entire image or something. His ears remind me of that icky yellow plug he was wearing in one of them a couple episodes ago.  And the cut over his eye and nose. All I can see is bloody gauze and his voice coming from those nostrils and I do declare, he's the most unattractive man on my reality TV today. IMO, of course. ;-)

[Shelby]

I don't even care what this sounds like, I am now the ultimate Kristen sympathizer. I don't care that she slept with Jax, or about anything else that she has done. Nobody should have to deal with the cruelty that James dished out.

To top that off Jax's behavior was arguably as bad as hers, and Tom & co are friends with him again. James slept with Kristen in Tom's apt and Tom was hugging him in the last episode.

Everyone in this group is disgusting, I'm not sure why Kristen is being singled out. But it makes me sick.

James is an epic douchelord! How could Kristen emerge the winner of the devolving shit show that was their relationship and break-up? The reason Kristen won is because she wanted to break up and walk away. James wanted to sit there belittle and berate Kristen, cheat on her, gaslight her, and accuse her of cheating. Then he's sitting around bragging and running victory laps like he won some shit. Newsflash twatwaffle! You've been on one date with Lala.

I never heard the word twatwaffle before, but it's so perfect for scum-of-the-earth pipsqueak James!

Edited December 1, 2015 by Shelby

[Ubiquitous]

Wow, what a bunch of twists and turns this week!

Did I hear DJ Muppet Baby admit to doing coke?

Is feeling sympathetic towards Kristen the n-th sign of the Apocalypse?

[BogoGog24]

I LOL'd at Scheana saying she wouldn't accept Lala because she "steals other people's boyfriends." Doesn't she remember that she had a 2 year long affair with a married man? Sit down.

Ariana's assessment of hers and Shay's relationship is probably the smartest thing she's ever said on this show. How exactly is eating healthier and exercising going to help a pill addict? It's pretty obvious Scheana doesn't know shit about helping an addict and has even admitted such. Shay needs professional help, not her hairbrained pee in a cup and eat mushroom omelettes ideas.

Jax's hair looks terrible this season. It looks like a rooster.

James is a dick. I think he's a classic case of projection. He sits there calling Lala a slut while he's the one making out with her behind his girlfriend's back. I think his attitude and the way he speaks towards both Kristen and Lala shows he has a low opinion and little respect for women in general.

I don't think Scheana has any clue what being a feminist is. I'm pretty sure if she believes she's entitled to the same rights as a man, then she's a feminist. Oy, normally I kind of like Scheana but she was just an idiot in this episode. Cue Vicki Gunvalson saying "You need to get educated."

The moment when Lala and Kristen were on the same side and left James was epic. I'm glad Lala let him know what he said about her wasn't ok with her. But apparently they've been dating for like 6 months now. I hope James isn't like this off the show. But I bet you all his relationships start out like this and then due to his own insecurities he starts projecting and then he ends up with a Kristen situation. And the cycle repeats. I think Kristen actually makes a really good observation in saying that James is trying to be the new Jax. Even Lisa said pretty much the same thing.

ETA: Loved Lala's comment referring to James as a string bean instead of a steak.

Edited December 1, 2015 by BogoGog24

[EverybodyIsACritic]

Peter's voice reminds me of the Harold Ramis character in Ghostbusters. Not sexy.

I cannot believe how Scheana is sweeping Shay's addiction issues under the rug. It's aaaallllll about her.

[rudystx01]

Are James and Lala presently together?

[EverybodyIsACritic]

At the end when they're doing shots, Jax looks down and the camera gets a downward shot of his face.  He looks like he's got 2 golf balls in his mouth.  I know some of  you don't like it when we talk about their looks but damn, he is really hard to look at.  It's not that he's unattractive - for me, it's actually difficult to focus on his face. It's so odd.  And disturbing. His features, his hair - on his head and face (muttonchops, really?) - are so greasy it distorts his entire image or something. His ears remind me of that icky yellow plug he was wearing in one of them a couple episodes ago.  And the cut over his eye and nose. All I can see is bloody gauze and his voice coming from those nostrils and I do declare, he's the most unattractive man on my reality TV today. IMO, of course. ;-)

[Shelby]

Congrats to Peter for snipping off that gross ponytail! He still has a few inches to go though.

Now if he'd just pick up a razor...

Edited December 1, 2015 by Shelby

[Ubiquitous]

I cannot believe how Scheana is sweeping Shay's addiction issues under the rug. It's aaaallllll about her.

I had to laugh when Schena said "I think he's going to do everything in his power to make me the happiest person alive" in the Pedicure RV and her clueless reaction to their reactions to what she just said. Edited December 1, 2015 by Ubiquitous

[EverybodyIsACritic]

Yes, golf balls in his cheeks like he has mumps or something! I'm also not trying to be critical of his looks, but he looks so much older and greasier. The top part of his head looks so much smaller than the bottom. Maybe add some blond streaks like he had in the first season?

And the bloody gauze and bruises and scabby bits have been present on two different seasons. Next stop, E! and Botched for a crossover!

[Ubiquitous]

Are James and Lala presently together?

I think they are, which is weird.

[WhosThatGirl]

Oh, Schena, Schena, Schena. I think she thinks "clean living" is what it takes to kick an addict. She probably googled some stuff on her phone or whatnot and just picked up the phrase "clean living" and eating good is what it takes.

 

James is such a little bratty liar. I believe he probably was calling Lala a slut and what have you to cover his tracks should Kristen ever hack his phone. Also, James, sweetie, DJing at the restaurant isn't a career move. And isn't he still bussing tables there as well? I highly doubt James from Vanderpump Rules is going to be the next Calvin Harris. Someone needs to fill up his baby bottle with tequila though, because he cries A LOT.  

[EverybodyIsACritic]

Oh, Schena, Schena, Schena. I think she thinks "clean living" is what it takes to kick an addict. She probably googled some stuff on her phone or whatnot and just picked up the phrase "clean living" and eating good is what it takes.

 

James is such a little bratty liar. I believe he probably was calling Lala a slut and what have you to cover his tracks should Kristen ever hack his phone. Also, James, sweetie, DJing at the restaurant isn't a career move. And isn't he still bussing tables there as well? I highly doubt James from Vanderpump Rules is going to be the next Calvin Harris. Someone needs to fill up his baby bottle with tequila though, because he cries A LOT.

Maybe fill that baby bottle of James' with NyQuil to knock his bratty ass out!

[Shelby]

AARGH, that annoying, buck toothed kiss-ass Kristina is back.

[ryebread]

Congrats to Peter for snipping off that gross ponytail! He still has a few inches to go though.

 

It was actually a quite nice ponytail.  (Once it was clipped away from his head.)  When I pull my hair into a ponytail anymore, it's about as big around as a cigar.  Peter's was so nice and thick and wavy.  I said in another thread this week (RHOBH?) that good hair is wasted on the young.  And dudes.

 

I thought the twin reaction Katie and Arianna had when telling Jax how he should have reacted after telling Kristen that James kissed Lala was cute.

[Shelby]

If any guy called me darling and babe, the way James throws those terms around, I would be raising me knee so hard.

[Happycatisfine]

I cannot believe how Scheana is sweeping Shay's addiction issues under the rug. It's aaaallllll about her.

 

I can't believe Shay/Mike is letting his purported addiction be on blast for any potential employer to see (what the hell are his skills?).  He must be totally relying on Scheana for his living expenses, which, if that's the case, why didn't she know he was spending bucks on street pharmaceuticals?  Does she give him an allowance?  Those wedding posters in their apartment (they're not even pictures) are an embarrassment.  I would be mortified if I were Mike Shay.  Which he probably is, hence his pill addiction and inability to support either himself or their relationship.  I don't understand why he would allow this to be their storyline.  WTF?

[WhosThatGirl]

So in present day, James and Lala are a couple? Right. Okay. I would never date James. He never seemed like a decent guy, even last season when Kristen was all Taylor Swift "Blank Space" on Tom and Araina and everyone was like, "what about your boyfriend, James?" I always thought there was something off about him. And then Lisa said on one of the after shows that he always wanted to be part of the Pump Rules gang and then I remembered that he and Tom used to be friends and he started to date Kristen and that messed up the friendship, and I was like, "thats what it was, he was a wannabe". 

[bosawks]

Jax's red, bloated, sweaty face just makes me want to chew on an aspirin in sympathy.

I think I can hear his blood vainly trying to move through his circulatory system all the way in New Jersey.

[Elizabeth]

I honestly think James latched onto Kristen for air time and then they eventually had some kind of legitimate feelings for each other -- I feel like Lala is doing the same with James .. so she can get all of the air time. Meh. 

[Chrissytd]

Congrats James on beating Kristen in the shitty person department.

Edited December 1, 2015 by Chrissytd

[ryebread]

I don't even care what this sounds like, I am now the ultimate Kristen sympathizer. I don't care that she slept with Jax, or about anything else that she has done. Nobody should have to deal with the cruelty that James dished out.

 

You're not alone.  The girls on the after show are on the same page.  James is a misogynistic turd.   

 

Everyone in this group is disgusting, I'm not sure why Kristen is being singled out. But it makes me sick.

 

Same thing is happening on 'Below Deck'.  Rocky is a slightly less deranged Kristen.  Eddie is slightly less of a dirtbag than James.  Yet everyone is piling up on Rocky/Kristen, while in my bones I just feel something is more off in Eddie/James. 

 

Everyone who is piling up on Kristen/Rocky are all pretty disgusting in their own way.  And this is what fascinates me about Bravo.  Give it a season and they'll turn everything around again. LOL

[Shelby]

You're not alone. The girls on the after show are on the same page. James is a misogynistic turd.

Same thing is happening on 'Below Deck'. Rocky is a slightly less deranged Kristen. Eddie is slightly less of a dirtbag than James. Yet everyone is piling up on Rocky/Kristen, while in my bones I just feel something is more off in Eddie/James.

Everyone who is piling up on Kristen/Rocky are all pretty disgusting in their own way. And this is what fascinates me about Bravo. Give it a season and they'll turn everything around again. LOL

ITA! Below Deck would be unwatchable without crazy Rocky and her perfect ass peeking out of the water! Am I really supposed to watch bitter, thin-lipped, condescening Kate and listen to her snotty tone for entertainment?

These shows devalue their kooky leads, which is the death knell for them.

[Adultosaurus]

Wait a second, did James just say getting it in?

 

Schwartz said it too, to Jax "Are you going to try to get it in with Lala?"

[Adultosaurus]

Maybe Tom could have mentioned to Shay to turn his sweatshirt right-side-out.  

 

Tom was a cater-waiter who fed eggs to "super-hot actresses".  God I love to hate this show!!!

[mbaywife123]

Could we possibly have an after show thread?

Pretty please with a cherry on top!

[Ubiquitous]

Maybe Tom could have mentioned to Shay to turn his sweatshirt right-side-out.  

 

Tom was a cater-waiter who fed eggs to "super-hot actresses".  God I love to hate this show!!!

Damn! So now Flat-Iron Tom's a Eggmactorician?

 

OK, I did laugh at Tom exaggerating about the time he had to work the omelets station at one of uber-businesswoman Lisa Vanderbuck's restaurant brunches.

 

How nice of Schena to leave Shay at home so he wouldn't get into trouble while she was out drinking and watching the spectacle Kristen was going to create. Because one never ever gets drunk or drugged-up alone at home!

[Teddybear]

 

 

Could we possibly have an after show thread?

Pretty please with a cherry on top!

Yes because I need to discuss what's happening with Kristen's lips.  

 

It cracks me up how Kristen crawls out of the woodwork wherever they are.  

 

I'm so confused by Lala's looks.  She should be pretty, but something is so harsh about her.  I think it's her makeup.   

[yourmomiseasy]

Holy shit!  James is psycho!  He is seriously scary.

 

Oh my god.  The whole scene with Jax explaining how he tried to make Kristen feel better by telling her James and Lala made out was magic.

 

"For once I'm not in trouble, so it's interesting."  Jax had a few quotes that I found inexplicably funny. 

 

Scheana can miss me with judging Lala for messing around with other's boyfriends.  Anyone but Scheana can judge her for it and I'd be fine, but Scheana has no leg to stand on with this.

 

The Nugget made a good point about the Shays' marriage.

 

Lala's over the top flirting seems kind of desperate to me.  I love her talking head where she's acting all hard too.  I'm sure there's no way in hell she could take Kristin's crazy ass in a fight.  

 

Lala sticking up for Kristin was nice.  I also appreciated her sitting down and trying to talk to Kristin.  And them both being disgusted and walking out on James was fantastic.  Even better was Lala going off on James and Jax just sitting there giggling at all the shit he stirred. 

 

James is seriously a psycho asshole and he's also super fucking annoying.  I don't understand why any of these people talk to him.  He is a misogynistic turd and makes Jax look like a prince in comparison.

 

So Kristin's redemption arc has officially begun?  I know I feel bad for her.

I'm so confused by Lala's looks.  She should be pretty, but something is so harsh about her.  I think it's her makeup.   

 

Her make-up is super harsh and the worst.

Edited December 1, 2015 by yourmomiseasy

[ScoobieDoobs]

I can't believe Shay/Mike is letting his purported addiction be on blast for any potential employer to see (what the hell are his skills?).  He must be totally relying on Scheana for his living expenses, which, if that's the case, why didn't she know he was spending bucks on street pharmaceuticals?  Does she give him an allowance?  Those wedding posters in their apartment (they're not even pictures) are an embarrassment.  I would be mortified if I were Mike Shay.  Which he probably is, hence his pill addiction and inability to support either himself or their relationship.  I don't understand why he would allow this to be their storyline.  WTF?

 

Honestly, I'm totally baffled by the Shay-addicted-to-pills storyline.  Is this a fake-out created by Scheana for a storyline?  I mean, seriously, I don't get any of it.  Er, absolutely none of this shit makes sense.  They both acknowledge he was drinking way too much & taking 10 of some unstated (but presumed to be prescription) pills a day.  Um, these are serious problems.  But then the Toms beg Lisa to give this purported drug addict (& possible alcoholic) a job as a bartender?  Er, huh?  Wouldn't Lisa have to be THE dumbest restaurateur in LA (or anywhere) to give this ass-clown a job?  Guess she's not, eh?  OK, color me surprised on that one.

 

So last ep we saw Scheana screeching & ear-piercing screaming at Shay, "Why did you marry me?"  Well, the more important question to me is why in the fuckety fuck did she marry him.  The guy doesn't have a job.  He has no money & no means of financial support -- other than Scheana, that is.  Um, please oh please, someone help me understand this.  What is it with all these women on Bravo shows who marry or partner with men who have no jobs & no money?  GAH!

 

And now Scheana is throwing at us that she can help someone who is possibly (or even likely) a drug addict & alcoholic by drinking disgusting-looking green drinks & eating healthy.  Eh, look, I lose interest fast when stuff starts making absolutely no sense.  Idk what's going on here, but I smell something fishy.  Either Scheana is throwing us a fake-out for some camera time & attention and/or the producers of this thing have created this ridiculous, senseless storyline.  Either way, not digging it.

 

OK, so here's something else that makes absolutely no sense to me.  James called Lala a ho.  She ends this ep saying she was offended, blowing off James & walking away from him with Kristen.  He's clearly disrespected Lala several times on camera.  So she's had to have heard about it before.  But now she's seeing this shit along with us, broadcast to millions.  She's OK with this -- enough to now be dating this butthole?  What the what?  Could she be dating James just to keep a place on the show?  Could be, could be.  Btw, I'm not into Lala.  There's something very hard about her looks & demeanor.  She has the look & attitude of someone who's been stripping, hooking & doing porn -- for 10 years.

 

And now that Kristen isn't dating James anymore, how the heck can they keep her tied to the show?

Edited December 1, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[yourmomiseasy]

 They both acknowledge he was drinking way too much & taking 10 of some unstated (but presumed to be prescription) pills a day.  

 

Supposedly, 5 vicodin per day, which is not hardcore at all.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Supposedly, 5 vicodin per day, which is not hardcore at all.

 

So then it really was a fake-out?  But they were making him out to be some pill-popping addict & alcoholic.  I guess we can safely assume Shay is giving up all hope of employment -- other than with Bravo for this show?  Good luck with that strategy, Scheana & Shay.

Edited December 1, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[WhosThatGirl]

What was Shay's actual job? Anyone know? I wondered why he would be all gung-ho on this too, unless he isn't getting any other job offers and he was like, "well, I am on this show, might as well do something"? Because really, this show will, one day, end, unless Scheana and Shay have unlimited funds somewhere else, yeah. I second the good luck. 

 

Hours later, James is still the worst.

[BogoGog24]

From what I recall I think Shay was a music producer of some kind, but I'm not sure. He is featured on Scheana's song she put out last year "Shake That."

OMG yes, I could not with Scheana saying she would rather go out to watch Kristen make a scene than spend time at home with her husband, who she claims to be supportive of. Now I would never expect her to constantly be with him 24/7, she should have a life too and go out with her friends once in awhile, but her reasoning behind this one was basically self centered or possibly mandated by the show. It just seems like an odd thing to say, "I'm going to watch Kristen," not "I'm going to have a good time, be with friends, etc." SMH And she really trusts Shay home alone? All he needs is his remote control, yeah right. This episode was not Scheana's finest hour in any way.

I would have expected her also to have more empathy for Lala regarding the Kristen situation. After all, it's not even like it was her husband that Lala cheated with, yet she took it so personally while Kristen actually wanted to just talk it out like an adult (shocking for this show). Doesn't she remember how badly Stassi treated her when she was new at SUR? Guess the saying "what goes around comes around" really is true.

I always just assumed James casually dropping terms like "darling" and "love" were a British thing. Much like how he usually addresses the guys by "mate."

[ResedaDiva]

This just doesn't ring true, when Lala says, "I never met Kristen before" and then she stares wide-eyed as Jax and Tom launch into her past craziness stories. 

 

Didn't Lala tell Brandi and Julie on the Aftershow that since she was 17 years old she hung out at SUR?

 

And anyone that is a new cast member on this show in its 3rd year is definitely familiar with the show, they've seen it on TV, and that's why they joined the SUR staff, in the hopes to be on the show. I believe a lot of things, but I think it's impossible that Lala doesn't know the core staff and their backstories. 

[ryebread]

I'm so confused by Lala's looks.  She should be pretty, but something is so harsh about her.  I think it's her makeup.

She doesn't have much definition to her features. Her face is oddly doughy. So she tries to create angles by spackling on the contouring and highlighting powders. To say she's heavy handed with a make up brush would be an understatement. She'll improve though. They all do. Look at any of them in their first season and their hair and make up were amateur. Now they all look so much more polished. Except Jax. Because you can't polish a turd.

[The Mighty Peanut]

Dear James, shut the fuck up and stop wearing red lipstick.

[bblancobrnx]

Are James and Lala presently together?

I feel like they will stay together strictly for story lines on the show until at least the next season films

I honestly think James latched onto Kristen for air time and then they eventually had some kind of legitimate feelings for each other -- I feel like Lala is doing the same with James .. so she can get all of the air time. Meh.

EXACTLY

I'm so confused by Lala's looks. She should be pretty, but something is so harsh about her. I think it's her makeup.

I am still trying to decide if Lala is pretty or not...that makeup is AWFUL! Her face looks like it is made of shiny plastic. Her face looks very strange in her TH interviews. She needs to tone it down big time. I feel like the amount amd type of makeup that Kristen wears is about perfect for her complexion

LMFAO @ dum dum Jax asking about the fratnization rule. Wowie. Good thing he is somewhat pretty

Edited December 1, 2015 by bblancobrnx

[bblancobrnx]

Could we possibly have an after show thread?

Pretty please with a cherry on top!

You can make any thread you like! :) That is the beauty of a forum. If you don't see a topic already made about something you want to snark on/ talk about, make it!

ETA - also, what was up with the total up skirt shot on Katie when she stood up after the wine meeting? C'mon producers, that wasn't very nice of you

Edited December 1, 2015 by bblancobrnx

[ghoulina]

So Kristen and James broke up in the alley behind Sur. After she came in the back, like she still worked there, and demanded his presence. God, I love this show. 

 

But what I want to know is - who utters a simultaneous "I don't want to be with you" and then continues to fight in the alley for 10 more minutes???? Who cares what all your grievances are with each other??? You're done. Move on. 

 

James is clearly trying to make Kristen out to be the "bad guy", with his insisting that she cheated, despite having no proof of this. I'm really not even sure why he would take such umbrage with her being out all night drinking. Doesn't he do that every night? He is just a really, really mean dude. When Sandoval and Kristen would fight it got crazy; they were both screaming and crying and airing all the wrongs of the other person. But James is just vile and vicious and hits below the belt. Lala should take notice. 

 

Also, she should take notice of that fugly shirt he wore on their cheeseburger date. It looked like a flock of pigeons had relieved themselves on him. No. Just no. 

 

James and Lala getting together so soon is kind of squicky, but it does make me happy because it bothers Jax SO badly. It couldn't be more obvious. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't give two flips about the fraternization rule if HE was the one who had been making out with her. Hence why he orchestrated for everyone to be together for drinks. I do have to say, as little as I like any of the players involved, I appreciated that Lala put her foot down when James was trying to be all smug and flaunt her in Kristen's face. I loved seeing James squirm when the girls took a stand against him, but it clearly isn't going to last, so I couldn't get too excited. 

 

 

Every time I hear Scheana discussing Shay's situation I just get so twitchy. So now they're going to work out and eat veggies and make everything better? Yay! I mean, honestly, it would be great if Shay tried to be more healthy in general, but is any of this HIS idea? It has to be, or it's all for naught. But somehow I just see this as more of Scheana-Cruise-Director, mapping out their perfect and fabulous life, with no input from the bearded man in the corner. For once, I was in agreement with Jax. I'm not going to blame the entirety of Shay's problem on his wife, but damn...she cannot make life easy. I really do feel he loves her very much and is trying, in vain, to live up to her great expectations. And it's killing him. 

 

I mean, listen to what she says - "I think he's going to do everything in his power to make me the happiest person alive". Damn. That's one tall fucking order. And shouldn't he be working on making himself happy first? I know addiction effects loved ones, but Shay taking pills wasn't some personal assault on you, Scheana. He has problems and he needs support, in whatever form that takes. For once I'd like to hear her ask him what HE needs and how she can help HIM. 

 

And, I'm sorry, but who in the actual fuck wants to eat broccoli for breakfast? I'm not talking about little florets mixed in your omelet. But an actual side of broccoli? I'd be back on the pills in the five seconds. 

 

 

Okay, so the best moment of the night was clearly when Lisa spied Jax walking around with a box of wine and immediately thought he was trying to pilfer it. "Jax, where are you going?" Bahahahaha

[ghoulina]

I LOL'd at Scheana saying she wouldn't accept Lala because she "steals other people's boyfriends." Doesn't she remember that she had a 2 year long affair with a married man? Sit down.

 

Right??? Not to mention, men lie! She said James told her that they were already broken up. Are we supposed to make all men pass lie detectors before accepting a date from them. (And even then, the sociopaths would slip through.) I do think I heard Arianna trying to speak up, something to the effect of it not being all Lala's fault. It is annoying how the men seem to get passes on this show, when they're all doing the same damn thing. 

 

James is such a little bratty liar. I believe he probably was calling Lala a slut and what have you to cover his tracks should Kristen ever hack his phone.

 

Or at least that's what he told Lala, to get back in her good graces. She was uttering the same thing in her TH, which I would guess was probably filmed after the scene at the club. 

 

I would be mortified if I were Mike Shay.  Which he probably is, hence his pill addiction and inability to support either himself or their relationship.  I don't understand why he would allow this to be their storyline.  WTF?

 

It's quite possible she told him it better be, or she'd leave. Who knows? She may have handled it more deftly than that, but if the dude is depressed and battling addiction, it would be quite easy to take advantage of him and get consent that he wouldn't normally give. 

[runforcover]

Agreed, Lala needs to tone down the make-up, or just stay away from liquid liner.  Speaking of which, Kristen looks rough. She does this trembling thing with her head and neck, the "I'm not going anywhere because I have early attachment issues" insistence, that after ten seconds looks like she's about to shed a skin

 

SCHEENUGH.  I am back and forth on this bitch. I actually think she means well even if she sucks. In this episode in particular, the show seemed to hate her more than usual - which apparently is where Jax finds a storyline??? I have not followed the Shay stuff in tabloids, but my money is on addict prior to VP.  And if I had to bet on another addict in the midst, I pick Schwartz. Was he even this episode?  He's adorable. He's got a thing though, I think.

 

Oh Lala, coming back around to high five Kristen.  I was touched even if I find Lala as alienating and depressing as the rest of these glitter stains. OH, and did Sandoval say he was a chef in the mid-nineties?

 

Also, it took a few years but I'm fine with Ariana. Like, we're good now.  

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It's quite possible she told him it better be, or she'd leave. Who knows? She may have handled it more deftly than that, but if the dude is depressed and battling addiction, it would be quite easy to take advantage of him and get consent that he wouldn't normally give.

Even so, he would not by a long shot be the first or last guy who still went back to using despite an ultimatum from a significant other. I have seen it happen a LOT of times (a lot more times than I have seen the ultimatum actually have the desired effect of keeping someone clean). If he has a real problem/addiction, her threatening to leave will not be enough by itself to keep him from ever using again. His brain will tell him "I can get away with it. I used for 8 years without anyone realizing it. I can fake them out even though they are looking for it now". Especially with scheana. For fucks sake she gave him a drug test that didn't even test for the drug he was using. I can guarantee he realizes that the second he looked at the box

I love the fact that Lala is not mad about being called a whore...but don't you dare call her basic

Yes because I need to discuss what's happening with Kristen's lips.

I feel like this has something to do with her accident Edited December 1, 2015 by bblancobrnx

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For fucks sake she gave him a drug test that didn't even test for the drug he was using. I can guarantee he realizes that the second he looked at the box

I love the fact that Lala is not mad about being called a whore...but don't you dare call her basic.

Can you elaborate on how his drug test isn't testing for the drug he uses?

And yes, 1000x about Lala. Why is being called Basic more of an insult? Is it because it's been normalized for guys to use women's sexuality to disparage them, but calling someone dumb is mean if you believe it?

Prob Lala's fear is to be outed as dumb, which she is, and because it's somewhat true, she found it more insulting. Not that nearly all the SUR staff isn't dumb, they are, but they have a thick layer of Narcissism which protects them from the truth about themselves.