B&B: What's Up Today at Forrester Creations? - Daily Chat

[backhometome]

Didn't they do this story already last year with Bill/Sheila. Him getting her out of prison. Now its Lunas turn. Rinse and repeat.

Shut up, Katie. 

 

[ScoobieDoobs]

Was Luna-tic dreaming?  She repeated to $Bill that she ruthlessly murdered people . . . so why is she still on the show?

[Waldo13]

So now the pictures, of Electra, were nudes.  This was revised to show Katie to be more judgmental than she usually is and give us a PSA on AI deep fakes. 

Another person goes over a balcony like Thomas into the vat or Caroline at Bill’s house; but who?  

Is Luna dreaming?  Like every thing else, the monkeys with a keyboard like to use and reuse the same shit on a different day. 

[Js Nana]

1. After the ending to today's show, it's official, this show is geared to 14-year-olds - when you're being chased by a psycho, call 911 - and then call your boyfriend.

2. I still see a resemblance between Heather Tom and Christian Weissmann, especially around the mouth.

[ScoobieDoobs]

And Electra pulled some really dumb moves.  Instead of staying on the busy street, she went back into a desolate, deserted area.  Why would anyone do that when being chased by a screaming psycho?  And wow, Will has a location app I want.  Mine is always off.

$Bill sure looked like he said buh-bye for good & Luna-tic was hallucinating.  Show clearly has something in mind for her if she’s still there . . .

[Crashcourse]

The thing that cracked me up was idiot Electra running for her life away from the psycho who yells STOP!  And the idiot STOPS! 🤣

[Artsda]

Bill didn't ask about the putting Steffy in a cage. Lol how does he just get a mass killer out?  Yet Liam had to be locked up for awhile. 

Why is Electra acting like she has no service, she's in LA.  Then not calling 911.  I expected her to tell back Polo to Remy saying Marco. Lol 

Will drives a motorcycle? Surprised Katie is ok with that.  

 

 

 

Edited January 1 by Artsda

[KerleyQ]

What even was that?  It had to be a dream, right?  Is that even how a prisoner gets released?  They wordlessly shackle her, take her to an exit, un-shackle her, and then just shove her out the door still in her prison wear? And I can buy that Bill has some pull, and maybe even some people who owe him a favor after he helped with the Sheila case (even though that ended up going all to hell afterwards). But even with that, he was able to get it all done while Luna was still sitting at the visiting room table and hadn't even been brought back to her cell yet? Come on. 

Electra, what are you doing?  That apartment is right by the restaurant, isn't it?  Why wouldn't you run screaming there? Or, once you hit that busy street, stay in the busy area. Flag down a car. Yell for help. I get that people don't always think clearly in danger, but I feel like the instinct would still be to go towards people. People can help you. People can call the police and get in between you and Remy. 

Also, this story would be so much better if they'd taken some damn time to build it up. Show us Will and Electra falling for each other. As it is, his dramatic proclamations seemed silly, because he barely knows this girl. Build up their relationship over some time. They could have brought Remy on when they did still, but don't show us his shrine. Just show us him being a good friend to her, and even maybe befriending Will. Or have Will feel uncomfortable with him, but Electra reassure him that she and Remy have always just been friends. Have her fix him up with a FC model on a double date, even. Then, after a while, we get the scene of her in his bathroom seeing the shrine. It would have had so much more impact on the audience. 

And Katie, you weren't trying to shame anyone?  You know damn well that you said, in front of Ivy, that Electra wasn't the nice sweet girl Will thought she was. You were absolutely shaming and judging her. 

2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

$Bill sure looked like he said buh-bye for good & Luna-tic was hallucinating.  Show clearly has something in mind for her if she’s still there . . .

I'm going to comment on this in the spoiler thread. 

[KnightStorm]

Electra is officially the girl in a horror movie who makes all the wrong decisions. She has 0 self preservation skills, based on what I saw today.

[CharlizeCat]

I feel like I just watched a two-day after-school special about AI, deep fakes, and cyberspace boogeymen. Katie looks like an judgmental idiot and fool. Her eyeroll when Ivy said it was obvious Will loves Electra a lot wasn't lost on me.

2 hours ago, KerleyQ said:

As it is, his dramatic proclamations seemed silly, because he barely knows this girl.

I have to agree with this. 

However, I hope Electra and Will make Katie grovel a bit when apologizing to Electra. Electra shouldn't let Katie off the hook easily. But she will probably cave as Katie is Will's mother.

Luna has to be having a dream. There is no way ... But then, again ... Those guards had to have heard Luna confessing her crimes to Bill and she's already in jail for the two murders. I don't see how she got out. The only reasons why I hope Bill really sprung Luna is so 1) she can finish what she started with Bitch in the Box, and 2) speaking of ... I would rather watch cray-cray Luna instead of Steffy, Sludge, and Beige Dishrag.

[aussieinsydney]

I'm wondering if Bill made a deal to have Luna admitted to a psychiatric institution to do her time rather than let her get continuously beaten up in prison. Otoh, he could have arranged for her to be transferred to another prison. Who knows? Like others have said, she's probably dreaming.

[Chatty Cake]

Remys apartment is on the il Giardino property correct? I don’t understand how she ran out into such a deserted area near a busy restaurant in LA. 

Edited Wednesday at 04:26 PM by Chatty Cake

[NinjaPenguins]

Had no idea that Los Angeles was such a desolate ghost town. Looks like a fun neighborhood to play hide and seek or hold paintball tournaments in. Apparently there’s an amazing restaurant plunked down in the middle of it where you can grab a slice after beating a psycho in a foot race.

If it’s wrong to find the scene of Sir Will mounting his steed to save the damsel in distress hilarious, I don’t ever want to be right. Did they have an adolescent girl stage that? (No offense to adolescent girls! I was one and might have found the whole rescue swoon worthy. Who knows?) The close up of Will’s fist curled around the handlebar, revving up his steel horse made me lol.

Others have already pointed out how the Electra story went from zero to sixty with a glaring absence of build up. We always knew Remy was a creeper, unlike with Luna. Electra was instantly hypnotized by Will’s wonder wall of teeth. Like, Brad Bell, do you even soap, bro? Thanks for the PSA on deep fakes, I guess.

Speaking of those deep fakes, did we really need Ivy to be so understanding and practically absolve Katie of being such a reactive, judgmental twit? If you pulled that shit on my niece, you’d be taking your sack full of sorries to her lawyer. Katie’s instincts were absolutely terrible for a seasoned PR person, and the clumsy way she and Brooke handled the firing deserves more criticism. Oh, Electra shouldn’t be shamed for what she does with her body, Katie? That’s exactly what you did.

Are we finally done with scenes of Luna crying and begging and repeating the same b.s. while Bill sits there stone faced? That flashback of Luna killing Hollis was cold. He’s gasping and dying and Luna very casually suggests drinking more of what she knows is poison under the guise of helping him. Yikes. 

[Chatty Cake]

I agree it would have been nice to have a build up with Remy. He could have started dating someone and they could have done a foursome that the soaps used to do. The viewers would start to realize that Remy was a creep long before Electra did. They really rushed this one.

[smartyshorts]

Maybe $Bill will send Luna to assassin school and she can reach her full potential. Why did he need a blow by blow of the murders? She already confessed, more than once, to multiple people.  Her "killer hat" is so cute! 

We were screaming "Run into the OPEN and BUSY restaurant that is steps away, Electra!!!  But I'll admit I haven't giggled so much since Ridge chased the previous Taylor up a mountain for ten minutes. 

 

[Waldo13]

Past memories of Ridge and  Brooke 🤢🤢🤮.  
 

 

[Chatty Cake]

41 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

Past memories of Ridge and  Brooke 🤢🤢🤮.  
 

 

I saw the description and deleted the episode. 

[JNavarro]

They really brought Ashleigh Brewer back to do a PSA on deep fakes like it's 2019?  

Although at this point I wonder if that's lucking out, giving what other type of "stories" they might have her in.  

[Chatty Cake]

12 hours ago, JNavarro said:

They really brought Ashleigh Brewer back to do a PSA on deep fakes like it's 2019?  

Although at this point I wonder if that's lucking out, giving what other type of "stories" they might have her in.  

Maybe they’ll roll Liam out for her. Then Steffy will get jealous despite her incredible love life with Finn.

[Anna Yolei]

16 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Past memories of Ridge and  Brooke 🤢🤢🤮.  

The one silver lining about Ridge's recast is that we'll never see another montage with the song "Unforgettable" again.

 

12 hours ago, JNavarro said:

They really brought Ashleigh Brewer back to do a PSA on deep fakes like it's 2019?  

It's a waste of her time but it could be worse: they could be wasting Ivy in pining for Liam.

Speaking of that little puke, I haven't missed him one bit but I feel like I haven't seen him since that half assed attempt to get with Hope after he learned about Carter months ago. 

[Chatty Cake]

19 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

The one silver lining about Ridge's recast is that we'll never see another montage with the song "Unforgettable" again.

 

It's a waste of her time but it could be worse: they could be wasting Ivy in pining for Liam.

Speaking of that little puke, I haven't missed him one bit but I feel like I haven't seen him since that half assed attempt to get with Hope after he learned about Carter months ago. 

I thought about what you said too but I don’t want to type his name in case we have a beetlejuice situation on our hands.

[Artsda]

So Bill gonna keep Luna there forever hiding his stupidity from his family? 

[aussieinsydney]

9 minutes ago, Artsda said:

So Bill gonna keep Luna there forever hiding his stupidity from his family? 

I haven't watched today's episode yet but I'm assuming that what happened at the prison was real and not a dream of Luna's? And she's gone back to Bill's mansion I take it?

God help me with this bloody writing!! So these idiots expect us to believe that Bill has enough sway/money to get a double murderer out of jail and what, let her live with him to what, see out her sentence or some such shit?!

Yeah, I'm going to watch this episode and if that's the case, then I think I need to take a break from this shit show. These writers are just fucking with us now.

[Waldo13]

Bill has the sunlight behind him and as he came out of the light, I thought I saw angel wings.  

So now Bill is protecting Luna and nobody can know.  Yeah sure, what is the over and under before Katie sniffs this out. So Luna has been tried and sentenced. When did that happen?  If Luna got 25 to life, the sentence could outlive Bill.  

Both father and son are heroes by rescuing damsels in distress today.  Will gets rewarded with a kiss and Bill gets rewarded with a hug.  Let’s hope Bill and Luna keep it that way 😉. 

 

 

[KerleyQ]

17 minutes ago, aussieinsydney said:

So these idiots expect us to believe that Bill has enough sway/money to get a double murderer out of jail and what, let her live with him to what, see out her sentence or some such shit?!

And not even the power to do it, but the power to do it in like five minutes?  They couldn't have had him come back like the next day after he'd made some calls and called in some favors, or something? 

[BoffoDaWonderSheep]

I've always been obsessed with the beginning credits on soaps, going back to the pen and ink sketches on Y&R. I see with the latest refreshed ones on B&B that Thomas and RJ have been dropped. Elektra has been added (or maybe they added her when they added Will?) and that there is a Black woman who might be the new character of Daphne? Although it's odd since she hasn't appeared on screen yet (I don't know because I've been watching less and less). No Ivy yet.

So my question is - does the amount of different pix correlate to their contract status? It seems like regular status characters get at least two different pix in the credits, while recurring ones like Donna and Poppy only get one? Or am I overthinking this? I also see that they begin and end with Eric and Brooke, the two longest characters on the soap.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Uh, so Bill was able to, in what seemed like a split second, get Luna out.  Has Show turned into Bewitched or I Dream of Jeannie, and he now has magical powers?  None of this makes any sense.

And yeah, we have no idea if Luna was tried & convicted cuz it was never mentioned.  But it was clearly just shown to us & Bill how Luna casually, coldly & brutally murdered someone who was supposed to be her friend.  

So Show is fine with getting this confessed murderer out of prison, and highlighting her as a main character we’re supposed to care about?  I hate this.  Not sure I can watch this anymore.

Look, DD still looks great, but he’s a terrible actor.  He always was & he hasn’t improved at all.  But he’s giving Luna these weird, weird looks.  Is it just cuz DD is such a crappy actor or is Bill looking to keep Luna as some sex slave?  I know, ick & yuck, but he was not being straight with her why he got her out of prison.  I don’t get what they’re doing to this show!

 

[Chatty Cake]

Maybe Bill is fixing to have a cell/dungeon built and brusell sprouts door dashed in? Maybe he’s working with the feds again since he did such a great job with Shelia?
How else could he get her out in a matter of minutes?

[Js Nana]

Today's show was utter dreck and tomorrow's show doesn't sound like it's going to be any better - certainly, it's a well-known fact that young women convicted of first-degree murder are released to serve out their sentence on house arrest in the homes of single middle-aged men, isn't it?

[SweePea59]

So much for our judicial system. And how long is her sentence? The one she got without a trial even. Are third-graders writing this? Or do third-graders know better?

Yeah, it was icky the way Bill was looking at Luna-tictac, like he wanted to kiss her. And why? Just why to all of this? My fear is that there's going to be some sort of horrible Luna and Will story. It's bad enough now.

What's to become of Remy? We know Electra didn't call the police. Or run into a crowded place or even run into traffic yelling for help. Did Will call the police? Is Remy going to just skip town? No repercussions. No farewells. Will he have to make a new bathroom shrine once he relocates?

[ScoobieDoobs]

Um why has NOBODY thought to call the police?  Not Ivy, in spite of her minor concern for Electra, not Katie & her useless lectures & false sympathy.  And not Carter & Hope & their general nothingness.

And yeah, both Electra & Will have gotta be the biggest dumbbells ever.  Neither of ‘em thinks to call 911.  What planet do they live on?  Bizarro world?  And so Remy slinks off, but we know he’ll be back.  Eh, whatev.

[JNavarro]

9 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

It's a waste of her time but it could be worse: they could be wasting Ivy in pining for Liam.

 

Given her return scene months ago, I think it's going to be exactly that.

Nothing against Will's actor on any sort of personal level- for real- but....we are going to have Nick Newman as "Will" indefinitely going forward.   ☠️

I was only kind of sort of watching at this point, but Bill thought Luna was his daughter at some point, right?  Now he's a daddy warden of said young woman who is also obsessed with him?  I think this show has (for whatever reason) in the past gone down these sorts of roads but still....eeew.  

Nice to know Katie and Brooke had to get railroaded literally to set up these PSA scenes.  

And I somehow prefer all of the above over seeing Ridge.   

Edited Friday at 01:50 AM by JNavarro

[aussieinsydney]

All I can say at this point is that the actors in B&B must be absolutely desperate for a paycheck!

[Snaporaz]

Forget not recognizing the deep-fake, Katie opened an attachment from someone she didn't know.  That's a big no-no where I work!

People barge into Bill's house without knocking all the time.  How is he going to keep everyone from knowing that Luna is in his house?

[NinjaPenguins]

Wow. This Bill/Luna story is truly terrible and with all kinds of creepy overtones. Where is this even going, besides circling the drain? I’d love to know when Bill committed a double homicide because of his upbringing. He’s so insistent that he can relate to Luna and her darkness that I just assumed he’d done some crimes. And, you know, there’s fiction, and then there’s the idea a cold blooded murderer would be allowed to serve a sentence via house arrest under the sole supervision of her obsession. The scripts for this show are printed on toilet paper, right?

It feels like Katie and Ivy had this same exact conversation yesterday. Katie, stop pretending you knew about deep fakes. You didn’t know shit.

Will was pretty dumb to turn his back on Remy after he punched him. Fortunately Remy overestimated how much basic common sense Will possesses and decided to peace out before police were called. 

[Cool Breeze]

14 hours ago, Anna Yolei said:

The one silver lining about Ridge's recast is that we'll never see another montage with the song "Unforgettable" again.

That was for sure tedious.  And I'm so very glad we're spared that drivel. 

But there's absolutely no silver lining to TK as "Ridge".

[Chatty Cake]

11 hours ago, JNavarro said:

 

And I somehow prefer all of the above over seeing Ridge.   

Amen! I’ll take the creepiness of Bill and Luna, Remy wreaking havoc thru the deserted areas of LA and Katie delivering PSAs over Ridge, his daughter and their sanctimonious bullshit.

[NinjaPenguins]

8 hours ago, Cool Breeze said:

But there's absolutely no silver lining to TK as "Ridge".

He doesn’t have a mullet. I have surprisingly strong feelings about that hairstyle.

[Anna Yolei]

18 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Look, DD still looks great, but he’s a terrible actor.  He always was & he hasn’t improved at all.  But he’s giving Luna these weird, weird looks.  Is it just cuz DD is such a crappy actor or is Bill looking to keep Luna as some sex slave?  I know, ick & yuck, but he was not being straight with her why he got her out of prison.  I don’t get what they’re doing to this show!

Oh come on, only Forresters get to be rapists and stick around long term on the show! :p

I'm snarking but after the shit with Zende last year and even Bill's own weirdness with Steffy during Still 2.0, I would very much NOT like whatever *this* is to turn sexual between them. Perhaps she'll be a spoiler between Wilectra, which given her age would be a more appropriate set up. The show's last group of teens are now pushing forty so we're overdue for new young people.

[SweePea59]

14 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

People barge into Bill's house without knocking all the time.  How is he going to keep everyone from knowing that Luna is in his house?

[Artsda]

Remy is in jail? They caught him off screen?

Did we really need flashbacks of yesterday? 

Brooke Brooke all Steffy and Taylor talks about. 

Brooke still trying get Ridge back is also  pathetic. Move on, get together with Finn's dad. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

All the Steffy & Greenlee/Taylor scenes can be put on mute.& you’d miss nothing.  Blah, blah, Brooke, blah, blah, Ridge, blah, blah.  Steffy now exists only to have boring convos w/her mother & to model Hunter Tylo wigs.  And this Taylor exists only to wait around for Ridge to give her a sympathy lay when he wants to zing Brooke.  Icky stuff.

No happy ending yet for Electra.  Why is this group of morons — Will, Electra, Katie, Ivy, Brooke, Hope &. Carter — all happy, happy?  Remy is still on the loose & can still stalk Electra & put out more fake nudies of her.  So dumb.

Edited Friday at 07:39 PM by ScoobieDoobs

[Valmarmar]

On 12/28/2024 at 10:02 PM, Js Nana said:

Is it just me, or do Heather Tom and Christian Weissmann (Remy) look an awful lot alike.

I was just thinking that today as I was catching up on show !!!!!!!

 

[Waldo13]

Yes Katie, you know that deep fakes exist but your true judgmental self took over.  

Stealing Finn from Stuffy is unforgivable but Taylor stealing Ridge from Brooke is acceptable.  What a concept. 

Why is Brooke so enamored by Ridge?  I’m quite sure he’s as arrogant in bed as he is out of bed. I have him pegged as a receiver and not a giver. I see him as yelling out his own name as the point of climax. I see Ridge and Brooke in a wham bam thank you mam love making session. 

Brooke has no self respect when it comes to Ridge. It’s Ridge “Super Omnia”. 

 

 

[KnightStorm]

If it was possible, I'd think Ridge really existed and was writing this show. It's absolutely insane the worship he gets, from not just Brooke and Taylor, but his own daughter who is willing to toss her own mother under the bus yet again. Hopefully Luna will want to finish what she started, and give Steffy something to do other than play parent trap at the age of 40.

[ScoobieDoobs]

The appeal of this Ridge is puzzling to me.  Am I missing something?  He.looks like a homeless person, his growling is creepy, he’s totally charmless & he treats both Taylor & Brooke like garbage.  Neither of ‘em need him for money, & they’re both attractive enough to easily get someone way better than him in so many ways — at least to be treated with respect.

The way they both grovel to him is truly nauseating to watch.  And Steffy encourages her mother to keep debasing herself & chase after him?  Or even worse, wait around till he has a fight with Brooke, & he might (just might) turn to her & then dump her quick for Brooke. At least Hope pointed out how crappy it was of him to turn to Taylor.  But Brooke stubbornly wouldn’t listen.

The only explanation I can come up with why these women would continue to chase after someone so unappealing, and who casually & constantly treats them like crap, is out of a longtime habit they both refuse to break.  Ugly, pathetic stuff to watch.  Yuck.

[KnightStorm]

6 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

The appeal of this Ridge is puzzling to me.  Am I missing something?  He.looks like a homeless person, his growling is creepy, he’s totally charmless & he treats both Taylor & Brooke like garbage.  Neither of ‘em need him for money, & they’re both attractive enough to easily get someone way better than him in so many ways — at least to be treated with respect.

The way they both grovel to him is truly nauseating to watch.  And Steffy encourages her mother to keep debasing herself & chase after him?  Or even worse, wait around till he has a fight with Brooke, & he might (just might) turn to her & then dump her quick for Brooke. At least Hope pointed out how crappy it was of him to turn to Taylor.  But Brooke stubbornly wouldn’t listen.

The only explanation I can come up with why these women would continue to chase after someone so unappealing, and who casually & constantly treats them like crap, is out of a longtime habit they both refuse to break.  Ugly, pathetic stuff to watch.  Yuck.

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Brooke and Taylor never sat down and honestly asked the question "why do I want this man", is because they're desperately scared of the answer. Realizing there isn't a single reason as to why they wasted decades of their lives on this foolishness, is probably more horrifying to them than just wasting the time they have left on him. Sad, truly sad...

[norcalgal]

24 minutes ago, KnightStorm said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Brooke and Taylor never sat down and honestly asked the question "why do I want this man", is because they're desperately scared of the answer. Realizing there isn't a single reason as to why they wasted decades of their lives on this foolishness, is probably more horrifying to them than just wasting the time they have left on him. Sad, truly sad...

You might be onto something here.  Like, I put in soooooo many years into this that I can’t throw away all that effort/energy/best years of my life because that means I essentially wasted all my effort/energy/years.  That makes me look stupid and pathetic.

Think of some expensive item you bought that never functions properly, but instead of giving up on it, you keep trying, trying to fix/tweak it so it finally works perfectly. Again, you go through the hassle because it cost so damn much and you don’t want to feel you wasted your money.

[SweePea59]

I still can't get over how young the hair and make-up people are making Stuffy look. She's looking young and fresh faced in a way the character has never looked before. And yet she's acting more mature than that spooky looking haggard meerkat playing her mother.

[KerleyQ]

I can remember a day when a soap wouldn't have dreamed up taking up time on a Friday episode with flashbacks to what just happened in Thursday's show. Especially a half hour soap that has precious little time per day. Will on his motorcycle wasn't half as impressive as the writers seem to think it was. Lord, I really hope they don't get as enamored with the idea of Will and a motorcycle as they used to be about Steffy and her motorcycle. "No, look, she rides a motorcycle, because she's so cool!"  

Brooke, do not beg that hobosexual for his love and forgiveness. I'm embarrassed for you.  He, once again, jumped to a conclusion and went running to his always willing jock rider without taking two seconds to speak to you first and make sure he was clear on what was going on. 

Every time I see that limp beige dishrag and Bitch in a Box sitting around talking about all the sins of Brooke and/or Hope, all I can think is "do you two not know your own lives?"  And when Steffy said that Stephanie always knew who Brooke was, I yelled at my TV "and yet Brooke was the one she wanted with her as she died instead of your precious sainted mommy."  

And Ridge: "Taylor has integrity."  Um, since when?  Was it integrity when she stood at that altar ready to go through with marrying you when she knew you were with her based on a lie?  Was it integrity when she bought your daughter a black market baby?  Was it integrity when she shot Bill?  Was it integrity when she went after you hard when you were still married to Brooke last time around?  Was it integrity when she arranged for the truth about Brooke's pregnancy (from Bill) to be revealed publicly at Katie's party, to ensure it inflicted the most emotional damage on all parties?  Was it integrity when she faked a pact with Brooke to stay away from you so that she could try to make moves on you while Brooke was forcing herself to stay away?  Or when, after breaking the pact, she sat in your office accusing Brooke of being the one to break it first, while you sat there and didn't insert the fact that, no, it was Taylor who threw herself at you in that very office, begging to go to Rome as your lover?  I believe by "integrity," Ridge actually means "single minded devotion to my dick, even when we're not together."  

And Ridge and Eric sitting there talking about Brooke and Taylor, like they both haven't been with both of those women. Equally weird - Steffy and Taylor talking about Brooke's relationship with Eric like Taylor never went there. 

Just that brief snippet in the previews made me think that we're going to have Luna ending up obsessed with Will and trying to come between him and Electra, probably out of some desire to be Bill's daughter by any means necessary. 

2 hours ago, KnightStorm said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Brooke and Taylor never sat down and honestly asked the question "why do I want this man", is because they're desperately scared of the answer. Realizing there isn't a single reason as to why they wasted decades of their lives on this foolishness, is probably more horrifying to them than just wasting the time they have left on him. Sad, truly sad...

The second to last time Brooke and Ridge got together, when Bill was trying to convince her to pick him, all of those scenes had a pretty heavy vibe of "but I've spent almost my entire life believing this man is my destiny. If I don't choose him now, what does that say about the decades I've spent putting up with his shit?" She seemed way more into Bill, but like she thought she had to pick Ridge. I so wish she'd finally tell herself "the only thing worse than the last 30 something years being a waste of my time would be to keep wasting my time."