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Just saw her meeting with the Credit Counselor for the first time.   She was such a saint, taking on all that debt from her bad marriage.  Of course they forgive her $4,000 store credit card the poor single working mother of three.  SHe really is stealth.  I also think she was purposely late to Logan’s graduation, it did not feature her.  But the worst was her gaping mouth and jaw when Christine said she forgot to pay her water bill.  Unforgivable!

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9 minutes ago, sheshark said:

Just saw her meeting with the Credit Counselor for the first time.   She was such a saint, taking on all that debt from her bad marriage.  Of course they forgive her $4,000 store credit card the poor single working mother of three.  SHe really is stealth.  I also think she was purposely late to Logan’s graduation, it did not feature her.  But the worst was her gaping mouth and jaw when Christine said she forgot to pay her water bill.  Unforgivable!

Was it the credit counselor or the mortgage interviewer that discovered that she had outstanding credit charges with 3 different names? Preston, Sullivan (her maiden name if step-father adopted her) and I guess Brown for charges she ran up after marriage to Kody.

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15 hours ago, Sandy W said:

Was it the credit counselor or the mortgage interviewer that discovered that she had outstanding credit charges with 3 different names? Preston, Sullivan (her maiden name if step-father adopted her) and I guess Brown for charges she ran up after marriage to Kody.

It was the credit counselor guy that said she had 3 last names in her credit report and Robyn exclaimed, “THAT WAS AN ACCIDENT! “ She then whines about trying to sever ties from her ex and stay off the radar.  Hey, Robyn, instead of staying off the radar how about staying out of Victoria’s Secret 🙄

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On 3/20/2021 at 9:15 PM, sheshark said:

Just saw her meeting with the Credit Counselor for the first time.   She was such a saint, taking on all that debt from her bad marriage.  Of course they forgive her $4,000 store credit card the poor single working mother of three.  SHe really is stealth.  I also think she was purposely late to Logan’s graduation, it did not feature her.  But the worst was her gaping mouth and jaw when Christine said she forgot to pay her water bill.  Unforgivable!

She didn't take on the debt.  She had to pay bills she ran up herself.  

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On 3/22/2021 at 2:49 AM, Pickleinthemiddle said:

She didn't take on the debt.  She had to pay bills she ran up herself.  

But she didn’t have to pay them.  She got the collections to write several accounts, possibly all off.  Mona tells her to get on it in one of the final meetings, and she actually does!  Robyn did something, or the credit counselor did to manage to get her score to 600 without working.  I am also a single mother of 3 who worked two jobs and managed to get my score to 831, after being turned down for credit by T.J.Maxx!  So she is a miracle worker.

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Robyn's Purity speech:  The worst mistake of her life.  It was her first kiss (at 19) and there was only one thing he wanted, and he took it and he threw it on the ground (throws silver heart locket down, smash!) and he broke it!  So she got pregnant.  Then she looked until she found the one she shoulda waited for.  So she picks up the locket and tells Kody “This is yours.  This is the most ultimate gift.  It is yours.”  Not just any old cookie.

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4 hours ago, sheshark said:

Robyn's Purity speech:  The worst mistake of her life.  It was her first kiss (at 19) and there was only one thing he wanted, and he took it and he threw it on the ground (throws silver heart locket down, smash!) and he broke it!  So she got pregnant.  Then she looked until she found the one she shoulda waited for.  So she picks up the locket and tells Kody “This is yours.  This is the most ultimate gift.  It is yours.”  Not just any old cookie.

That speech was so cringy and that antiquated mentality about sex is disgusting.  Not to mention a total slap in the face to her three older children.  The worst mistake of her life? Gee, thanks Mom.  I get that she hates her first husband but he's still in the kids lives and has never, in all this time, said a word against her or Kody.  I'm dying to hear his side.  

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38 minutes ago, WhatsUpDummy said:

Robyn's Purity speech

So what exactly is she insinuating? That this was forced? If not forced or rufi'd, I was under the impression it took two to lose one's purity. And then have two more kids with the rat that stole her purity. Guess she wants to remove herself from any responsibility on the act of losing. 

I'm embarrassed for myself trying to figure out these cartoon characters.

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8 minutes ago, itsadryheat said:

So what exactly is she insinuating? That this was forced? If not forced or rufi'd, I was under the impression it took two to lose one's purity. And then have two more kids with the rat that stole her purity. Guess she wants to remove herself from any responsibility on the act of losing. 

I'm embarrassed for myself trying to figure out these cartoon characters.

 

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35 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

I must have stopped watching during the rewrite history Kody portrait, but was this portrait given on the show, and how did Robyn explain it?  I’m guessing it was supposed to symbolize she should have been with Kody all along, but did anybody have a reaction to it?

She did present it during one of the episodes, with her predictable quivering lower lip as if she was fighting off tears of overwhelming emotion.  I think that she thought she was doing a wonderful act of love.  They also showed sessions of her with the artist, describing how she wanted the original photo recreated.

IIRC, when she presented it, one of the older boys looked on in disbelief, then turned and walked out of the room.

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12 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

I must have stopped watching during the rewrite history Kody portrait, but was this portrait given on the show, and how did Robyn explain it?  I’m guessing it was supposed to symbolize she should have been with Kody all along, but did anybody have a reaction to it?

Robyn commissioned the portrait and even supplied an old photo of Kootie from when Breanna was a baby so it would look like he was a member of their family from the beginning.  I imagine her cutting the pic of him out of a photo with his real fambly at the time.  I've always wondered how the rest of the fambly felt about this. Why aren't THEY in the portrait too?

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11 minutes ago, NoWhammies said:

This is super telling. In the last season with all of the house fuckery in Flagstaff, Kody repeatedly referred to Robyn's house as "our house" and referred to all of the other wives' homes as Meri's house, Christine's house, and Janelle's house. 

In the same vein, he refers to Christine's kids and Janelle's kids.  I just hope that if he ever refers to Robyn's fledglings as "our kids" TLC would edit that out to spare the feelings of the original 13.

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I recently saw the Christmas episode in the rentals in LV where Robin presents the form for her name change to Brown.  She gives it to Kody as a Christmas present in front of everyone.   Just as manipulative as the purity speech and the picture with her children and Kody that she faked.  This is a very manipulative woman who is very good at also playing the damsel in distress, and she seems to have done a good job of teaching that method to Auroraborealis.   I wonder if Robyn learned this from her own mother.

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Even in the clip someone posted in another thread of the family opening the 5-year time capsule, Robyn couldn't finish reading her 5-year predictions.  Breaking into "tears," she had to hand her list off to Kody to read.  Damsel indeed.

Somehow the other wives managed to read their lists without assistance.

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1 hour ago, Jeanne222 said:

I'm starting to notice that more and more in the talking heads it's Robin and Kody together and the other 'wives' alone. 

Strange since they are in a plural marriage.

Personally I think this whole thing is going to implode shortly.

In the first episode of this season at the Pizza parlor lunch of despair, Kootie and Robyn were bemoaning the fact that their financing was soooo hard to get because everyone's finances were so intertwined, and they both had talking heads that said, "from now on if any wives want to make a property or home purchase, it's going to be in their own name and Kody will just be on Robyn's finances." They just all so committed to one another!

 

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Now that I’m bored and doing a deep dive, what’s Robyn’s back story? Sisters, brothers, parents. I found  a weird IMBD page that has to be a punk, first husband Jessop's family is plyg royalty and his mother is Christine's Aunt, but not interested in plyg lifestyle and according to her Purity Speech, had a shotgun wedding. She states she grew up in the lifestyle but unlike the other wives, what do we know about her mother's story and her rise to the top.  Anyone with four last names, 2 husbands, 5 kids, lands on this shitshow and an IMBD page without living in Los Angeles at 42 has to have some good stories.

 

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On 3/23/2021 at 11:05 PM, Sandy W said:

She did present it during one of the episodes, with her predictable quivering lower lip as if she was fighting off tears of overwhelming emotion.  I think that she thought she was doing a wonderful act of love.  They also showed sessions of her with the artist, describing how she wanted the original photo recreated.

IIRC, when she presented it, one of the older boys looked on in disbelief, then turned and walked out of the room.

If I am remembering correctly, the image of Kody was from a photo of him with Christine's children.

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On 3/24/2021 at 3:16 PM, Jeanne222 said:

Personally I think this whole thing is going to implode shortly.

I keep waitingk.  and waitingk.

I just watched the episode where they are trying to get $2.5 million from a venture capitalist group to grow the closet.  I know the website has been inactive for over a year, and the FB page has been inactive since March of 2019.    I just wonder how much they ever made from it.  I was shocked during the presentation that their sales were $180, 000 in the second year.    At the time I think they had some product in a shop at a casino. 

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12 hours ago, Twopper said:

I keep waitingk.  and waitingk.

I just watched the episode where they are trying to get $2.5 million from a venture capitalist group to grow the closet.  I know the website has been inactive for over a year, and the FB page has been inactive since March of 2019.    I just wonder how much they ever made from it.  I was shocked during the presentation that their sales were $180, 000 in the second year.    At the time I think they had some product in a shop at a casino. 

I really believe it was just a story line for the show.  That is why Janelle never wanted to invest any time or money into it.  As she called it a hobby business.  You have to sell something that people a lot of people want.

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2 hours ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

I really believe it was just a story line for the show.  That is why Janelle never wanted to invest any time or money into it.  As she called it a hobby business.  You have to sell something that people a lot of people want.

 

2 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Way back then, research showed that one of the "venture capitalists" (the one with the boobs) is a comedienne and at least one of the guys is an actor.

I wasn't impressed with the one with the boobs.  I always thought Janelle --who supposedly did at least some of the tax work -- was thinking of it in terms of a hobby as the IRS would consider it.  I thought they expected their fans to be more supportive of it.  I really think they thought they could get one or two rilly big selling seasons due to their audience, but it never materialized because most of the audience is viewers, rather than fans that would buy their brand.  Kody has such an ego that I can see him envisioning it doing a lot better than it did. 

 

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I cracked up when the “venture capitalist” guy basically said my friends (the other “venture capitalists”) did me a favor by listening to the pitch. Generally, when a group doesn’t have it together, we usually just get up and walk out. So basically the Browns were lucky.  I’m not sure if all of that scenario was fake, but found it amusing TLC either wanted him to say that or left it in there anyway.  I’m sorry, but these people have the worst taste, whether it be jewelry, home decor, fashions, hairstyles, they’re all awful and tacky!

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2 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

these people have the worst taste, whether it be jewelry, home decor, fashions, hairstyles, they’re all awful and tacky!

I don't understand all the plaques that they have on their walls.  I recall on the Mothers' Day show when Kody takes his 4 MILs shopping that he picks a nice clock for Robyn and then wants to buy plaques for the others.  I was thinking "oh, no,"  until I started paying more attention to their houses. I can understand a "home, sweet home" one or something about the kitchen, but  a house full of plaques??? 

We have a house full of oil paintings, and I realize that's not everyone's cup of tea, but I would think there would be lots of family pictures on the walls with such a large family.  Maybe a mirror, a clock, a barometer, pictures of the ranch in Wyoming, etc......

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2 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

And of course, no problem for Robchins to indulge her vanity business.  What a joke!

She really is lies, deception and evil.  A failed actress, and she has so many “tells” when she goes on script.  Sniffling, looking up at the lights to coax out tears, the tremblechin, every damn time.  I may have missed it the first time but I disliked her.  Watching so many of the episodes in a short time really puts the puzzle pieces together, right up to the million dollar manse.

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33 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

For having 3 kids the body looked good! The face is average. Her chin grows as she ages?!

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I rewatched the first season and Robyn had good hair, a good body and an ok style for a mom of 3.  She was attractive. Now I know those things can go to pot as you age, but she is so different now.  The matronly hair, the bad makeup and the ugly clothes. It's an odd transformation and doesn't seem to be just age related. The other ladies pretty much grew older on their pre-set trajectory. Robyn changed.

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On 3/23/2021 at 11:09 AM, sheshark said:

Robyn's Purity speech:  The worst mistake of her life.  It was her first kiss (at 19) and there was only one thing he wanted, and he took it and he threw it on the ground (throws silver heart locket down, smash!) and he broke it!  So she got pregnant.  Then she looked until she found the one she shoulda waited for.  So she picks up the locket and tells Kody “This is yours.  This is the most ultimate gift.  It is yours.”  Not just any old cookie.

Holy cow, did she actually say/imply this?! Just, holy crap. Way to completely absolve yourself of any decisions you made as an adult. How, if it was only one thing he was after, did he manage to have two other kids with her? Usually when you're only after one thing, you move on when you've got it.

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Just thought I would mention to those who are still laughing at Robyn for her remark about "the pink elephant in the room" that in binge-watching old episodes I have noticed  that Kody used that exact expression in at least two other episodes.  The first I noticed was when they were trying to get a business loan from a "friend who owned a pawn shop" and then in the episode where they drive to SLC to move Christine's mom to Vegas.  

Watching several shows a day without the intervening time between seasons makes  it is clear that  this group has been on shifting sands since the show began, if not before.  Yes, there are places were everyone seems to be having a great time,  but the undercurrents of jealousy and insecurity from all of them bubbles up from time to time, although Robyn seems the least sincere about it.  I think Janelle and Robyn are a lot alike, but that Janelle is low maintenance while Robyn is high maintenance.  Meri and Christine both seem to be  trauma victims.  And Kody becomes more and more swarmy and insufferable episode by episode. 

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@Twopper - in your rewatch (I had to stop rewatching right before Truely got sick and Kody ignored her in favor of charring steaks on the grill), do you see Robyn's initial sweetness and wanting to be the glue that holds the fam'ly together as the machinations of a psychopath?  Or is that just me, rewatching through the lens of what I know now?  Because having made it partway through season 5, I see every move that woman makes and every fake dry tear she cries as pure manipulation, period.  Just wondering if I'm losing touch with reality by having watched these people for so long, I am now automatically convinced that everything they say is a lie.

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4 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

@Twopper - in your rewatch (I had to stop rewatching right before Truely got sick and Kody ignored her in favor of charring steaks on the grill), do you see Robyn's initial sweetness and wanting to be the glue that holds the fam'ly together as the machinations of a psychopath?  Or is that just me, rewatching through the lens of what I know now?  Because having made it partway through season 5, I see every move that woman makes and every fake dry tear she cries as pure manipulation, period.  Just wondering if I'm losing touch with reality by having watched these people for so long, I am now automatically convinced that everything they say is a lie.

I know you didn't ask me, but having just rewatched, it's actually pretty chilling and impressive to recognize what's going on with Robyn. I'm reading their book (blech) right now, and her barely disguised evil and manipulation underlies every word of hers in the book, as well. What's interesting is, if you're looking for it in either place, the veil slips from time to time. 

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15 minutes ago, NoWhammies said:

I know you didn't ask me, but having just rewatched, it's actually pretty chilling and impressive to recognize what's going on with Robyn. I'm reading their book (blech) right now, and her barely disguised evil and manipulation underlies every word of hers in the book, as well. What's interesting is, if you're looking for it in either place, the veil slips from time to time. 

It gives her phrase "we shoulda all been together from Day One" a much darker, sinister undertone, and she left out the part that goes "and I am going to slowly rewrite history and destroy everyone in my path to make it so."

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1 minute ago, laurakaye said:

It gives her phrase "we shoulda all been together from Day One" a much darker, sinister undertone, and she left out the part that goes "and I am going to slowly rewrite history and destroy everyone in my path to make it so."

Yep - I have always believed that the hilarious "art" Robyn had made of Kody with the three kids is actually quite sinister and showed her true intentions. Because it wasn't her kids with the fambily. It was her kids with Kody...There's a lot to unpack there.

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3 hours ago, laurakaye said:

@Twopper - in your rewatch (I had to stop rewatching right before Truely got sick and Kody ignored her in favor of charring steaks on the grill), do you see Robyn's initial sweetness and wanting to be the glue that holds the fam'ly together as the machinations of a psychopath?  Or is that just me, rewatching through the lens of what I know now?  Because having made it partway through season 5, I see every move that woman makes and every fake dry tear she cries as pure manipulation, period.  Just wondering if I'm losing touch with reality by having watched these people for so long, I am now automatically convinced that everything they say is a lie.

It is still hard to watch Truely's illness, but TLC came in and revised the story line so that the blame falls on Christine.    I am not sure I can watch the upcoming season where Meri gets divorced to benefit Robyn and her kids.

I am an atty, not a therapist so I don't know exactly how to classify her.  She is definitely someone who is manipulative and seems to care about other people's reactions only as it affects her or her children.  Her purity speech, the faked family photo, the Christmas gift of the name change, and manipulating Kody into marrying her make me think she must have some  hint of some abnormal psychology going on.    If she were truly psychopathic I could see her telling Kody lies about how her ex treated her and her children and convincing him that he should kill the ex to save her children,  Instead she settled for just convincing him to divorce his legal wife to save the children from going back to the ex in the unlikely event Robyn croaks before her kids reach the age of majority.

Instead of the anthropology students who I think were actors, they should have sent family therapists to live with the Browns for a few days.

And Kody never takes the family to the movies and pays for it or he would know that you need to know the number of adults and children because children's tix are cheaper.  I am  sure each mom pays for her own family.  And no, the older kids are not going to want to sit with the parents and little kids.

EDITING TO ADD:  I think I am in season 8 and there is a whole episode devoted to Robyn.  Barf.🤢

 

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How does David Jessop filing for a divorce from Robyn fit into her "I was an abused wife" narrative?

"Robyn married David Jessop in June 1999, and was a stay-at-home mom to their three children David Jr., Aurora, and Breanna while David ran and HVAC business and worked in construction."

"David filed for divorce in 2007 with the following stipulation that extended to “family members, friends, and acquaintances”:

“Neither parent shall consume excessive amounts of alcohol in the children’s presence.”

https://starcasm.net/sister-wives-robyn-sullivans-first-husband-revealed/

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On 3/28/2021 at 9:01 PM, Tuxcat said:

I rewatched the first season and Robyn had good hair, a good body and an ok style for a mom of 3.  She was attractive. Now I know those things can go to pot as you age, but she is so different now.  The matronly hair, the bad makeup and the ugly clothes. It's an odd transformation and doesn't seem to be just age related. The other ladies pretty much grew older on their pre-set trajectory. Robyn changed.

Sadly, that happens a lot when one is married to a raging narcissist. My sister is married to one and I don't even recognize her except that she keeps herself SO THIN because they all have eating disorders rooted in my raging narcissist asshole brother-in-law. But as a human and a woman, it's matronly hair, bad makeup/skin and ugly clothes. I feel really (rilly) bad for her, I do, but my b-i-l tried to start with me a few years ago so we no longer speak. 

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1 hour ago, itsadryheat said:

“Neither parent shall consume excessive amounts of alcohol in the children’s presence.”

https://starcasm.net/sister-wives-robyn-sullivans-first-husband-revealed/

It also said "that she never had a nursery with for her other three babies".   Sol & Areolabella were co-sleeping with Robyn, so perhaps the first three did too.  No need for a nursery when you keep them in your own bed in diapers until >3 and pacifiers at >4.

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1 hour ago, itsadryheat said:

How does David Jessop filing for a divorce from Robyn fit into her "I was an abused wife" narrative?

"Robyn married David Jessop in June 1999, and was a stay-at-home mom to their three children David Jr., Aurora, and Breanna while David ran and HVAC business and worked in construction."

"David filed for divorce in 2007 with the following stipulation that extended to “family members, friends, and acquaintances”:

“Neither parent shall consume excessive amounts of alcohol in the children’s presence.”

https://starcasm.net/sister-wives-robyn-sullivans-first-husband-revealed/

I know its been discussed here before but I'll just say it again... Robyn's past is really suspect. "He took it and smashed it" and yet she had three kids with this horrible man. Now I understand the mindset of some women in abusive relationships. I don't fault her for staying - perhaps she felt she had to - for any number of reasons. However I do fault her for making these grand sweeping  after the fact -proclamations in front of the three children she had with that "horrible man." How damaging to THEM - the kids. She implies that the biggest mistake of her life is essentially having those children -- and she attempts to rewrite history by pasting Kody in. Yet,  she also sends the kids off to spend time alone with the 'horrible man.'  It's obvious why Aurora has serious problems with panic.

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50 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Robyn's past is really suspect

The other 4 characters in this play have been "somewhat" transparent with their past. We've been introduced to people in their lives, have a limited sense of how they grew up, and their show stories kind of fit with their lives. Granted don't think any of them would pass a lie detector test or a real Natalie Morales interview, but none of this chicks "story", behavior, words, tweets, scrubbed internet, rise to power and temporary "wealth" fits together. Its like they are all puzzle pieces, but to 7 different puzzles. Why would this be, what's she hiding and who is doing her clean up?

I started reading this thread from the start, just found out the Cynical Jinx site (which is very interesting), belief that there is something fishy about the Brown's, their past, and their "portrayal" but Robyn's is by far the weirdest. My non fact based thought is the connection to this AUB which shall never be discussed or alluded to. 

If her awful ex husband is AUB "royalty", maybe they are responsible for the scrubbing and ex husband's silence. Nothing else makes sense. Unless she's in witness protection and the Sisterwives is her new identity.

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4 hours ago, laurakaye said:

do you see Robyn's initial sweetness and wanting to be the glue that holds the fam'ly together as the machinations of a psychopath? 

Well, Kody referred to Solomon as the glue that held the fambly together.  Robyn knew that would be the case so she got preggers asap, and she lucked out that Sol was a boy.    I think part of Meri's desire for another child in addition to her disappointment with not having more children was that she had not produced a boy for Kody.

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