Janelle Brown: Smarter Than Your Average Brown (Maybe)

[Gramto6]

A quick google took me there:

https://www.janellesays.com/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaaL3wzBKjsxK3l9HA5XvUkwfeiRd3UMuBZ5idf02TRCrndkXaQ2qOWyOjw_aem_AuE28jtmSqwnFWVvjqsmbw

I agree @mythoughtis, she's going to make some bucks with this line of shirts!! Go Janelle!!

Edited November 20, 2024 by Gramto6
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[General Days]

40 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Go to her Instagram stories and you will see her new company. She has 3 shirts so far. Janellesays.com

Lord love a duck. Thank you, Mickey.

Here's a link for anyone else who wants to see it: https://www.janellesays.com/ 

29 minutes ago, smarty said:

Where did the "Hold on I'll grab my list of things that bug me about you" saying come from?  Was that on an episode? I get the teflon queen and the respect memo ones.

I'm not so sure. I get those two too (but she made the shirts too wordy).

 

[laurakaye]

I don't know about these t-shirts.  Is the non-snarking SW community that big?  Maybe I'm wrong, but I have been watching this show since Day One and I would personally not walk around in a shirt that says "Teflon Queen," and then have to explain its meaning...although what do I know, "Teflon Queen" is currently sold out, but who knows how many were made - 25?

Also, selling shirts with sayings that came from or are about Kody - her awful, neglectful ex and the terrible absentee father of her kids - seems like a weird way to make a buck.  If she's going to finally break with that guy and go on her own, then do that.  It just seems like dirty money to me.

As for the flower garden idea - I'll believe it when I see it.  I have a small garden in comparison to what Janelle is planning and it requires work nearly every day, especially in the heat of summer.  I also think it's sort of suspect to start selling t-shirts for a business that doesn't yet exist for customers.

That's a lot of venting, but come on, Janelle.  You're still young.  If your finances are a disaster because your husband took advantage of you for your entire marriage, go find a great job with benefits and actually make a living without these constant get-rich-quick schemes that don't ever pan out.

/rant 

 

[General Days]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

That's a lot of venting, but come on, Janelle.  You're still young.  If your finances are a disaster because your husband took advantage of you for your entire marriage, go find a great job with benefits and actually make a living without these constant get-rich-quick schemes that don't ever pan out.

 

I agree with your prescription, but don't actually buy the idea that Janelle's finances are a disaster.

I think Janelle expects Kody and Robyn to financially screw her and Meri (and she should; Meri is being naïve), and so she is talking like that for a reason.

That said, I do think she doesn't have control of the amount of money she should, and she's fighting for it. I think she's also kicking herself in the seat for trusting that she didn't need everything in writing, but I don't think she's tapped out.

While I accept that she isn't where she should be, with regard to preparing for retirement (and the end of the show), I think the crying poor is mostly for show. 

[WhatAmIWatching]

6 hours ago, laurakaye said:

I don't know about these t-shirts.  Is the non-snarking SW community that big?  Maybe I'm wrong, but I have been watching this show since Day One and I would personally not walk around in a shirt that says "Teflon Queen," and then have to explain its meaning...although what do I know, "Teflon Queen" is currently sold out, but who knows how many were made - 25?

Also, selling shirts with sayings that came from or are about Kody - her awful, neglectful ex and the terrible absentee father of her kids - seems like a weird way to make a buck.  If she's going to finally break with that guy and go on her own, then do that.  It just seems like dirty money to me.

As for the flower garden idea - I'll believe it when I see it.  I have a small garden in comparison to what Janelle is planning and it requires work nearly every day, especially in the heat of summer.  I also think it's sort of suspect to start selling t-shirts for a business that doesn't yet exist for customers.

That's a lot of venting, but come on, Janelle.  You're still young.  If your finances are a disaster because your husband took advantage of you for your entire marriage, go find a great job with benefits and actually make a living without these constant get-rich-quick schemes that don't ever pan out.

/rant 

 

It's very niche quotes, just like Robyn's joory was very niche and specific to them or other polygamists (and verrrry overpriced). The quotes are a bit too wordy as well and I don't even remember when two of them happened.

I could see getting one that only said "Teflon Queen" for the lol factor, and a sort of inside joke to any SW fans I might encounter in the wild, but for $25, only 2 color choices, and too many words, they're not for me.

 

I just looked at their Taeda Farms store and they don't have a lot there yet either. I would think having a branded seed packet selection on offer before Spring would be a neat idea.
 

Could possibly add some different containers for growing said flowers too -hey, I found another use for those mini galvanized Thanksgiving buckets!- Also, patterned or branded gardening gloves and aprons could be useful as well. Tap into the people who want to support them but aren't into Tshirts. I would have had a decent variety of items listed before launching the store, especially if it's print on demand, but maybe that's just me.

They've never been very good at marketing though. It's funny (to me) how they just leave sites littered around the internet, and not really connected to their other platforms, when their businesses don't produce the windfalls they expected. (Does anyone know if she still does her Strive with Janelle business or did she finally let that quietly die off?)

 

[lookeyloo]

Is it possible that Janelle and maybe Meri have another income source that we don't know about?  We only get what they post and what is curated for the show by the producers.  Maybe MLM and in addition something else?

[LotusFlower]

15 hours ago, laurakaye said:

I also think it's sort of suspect to start selling t-shirts for a business that doesn't yet exist for customers.

So much this!!  I’m embarrassed to admit how much time I spent on their website trying to find information on their flower farm.  Only to find none - because it’s nothing but a concept!  But they’re selling t-shirts!  I don’t get who’s buying them.  What for?  There’s no farm!

[Denize]

"Taeda" is Latin for "Resinous pinewood". An odd name for a flower farm, but describes the trees on the property.

[65mickey]

I have a feeling that Maddie and Caleb wanted some land and pitched this flower farm idea to Janelle who is at a very vulnerable time in her life after losing Garrison. Janelle went in with them and put up a lot of the money to purchase the land. Like other posters have pointed out this is timber land. It will have to be cleared. They probably have to get permits to clear the land before they can do anything. I wonder if they even had the soil tested to see if it is appropriate for growing flowers? It makes no sense to me that someone who went in on buying raw land years ago and saw how that turned out would jump in on doing this again. 

[Tuxcat]

4 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I have a feeling that Maddie and Caleb wanted some land and pitched this flower farm idea to Janelle who is at a very vulnerable time in her life after losing Garrison. Janelle went in with them and put up a lot of the money to purchase the land. Like other posters have pointed out this is timber land. It will have to be cleared. They probably have to get permits to clear the land before they can do anything. I wonder if they even had the soil tested to see if it is appropriate for growing flowers? It makes no sense to me that someone who went in on buying raw land years ago and saw how that turned out would jump in on doing this again. 

maddie posted about this and they are doing the permits thing and "mountain of paperwork" - just a little behind schedule she said lol

[LilyD]

Meri and Janelle both have thriving MLM businesses in Plexus and Lularo. Meri also has the b&b. They must have a pretty decent income combined with tlc money.

As for Janelle’s “business instincts”:  I’ve given up on that a long time ago. She seems incapable of learning anything from her previous mistakes, of which there are many. She’ll probably embark on unwise business ventures and pour money down the drain until the day she dies.

[AZChristian]

54 minutes ago, LilyD said:

Meri also has the b&b.

From the Lizzie's website:

"Though the inn may no longer be open for reservations, its legacy will always remain in the hearts of those who’ve experienced its warmth and charm. Thank you for being part of Lizzie’s story."

And it's marked as Temporarily Closed.  I think she has it as a home, but no longer as a business.

[Tuxcat]

2 hours ago, AZChristian said:

From the Lizzie's website:

"Though the inn may no longer be open for reservations, its legacy will always remain in the hearts of those who’ve experienced its warmth and charm. Thank you for being part of Lizzie’s story."

And it's marked as Temporarily Closed.  I think she has it as a home, but no longer as a business.

I believe she told one of her live groups that the plan is to renovate and do an event/venue type business instead (rather than a less lucrative standard b and b)

[ginger90]

10 hours ago, AZChristian said:

From the Lizzie's website:

"Though the inn may no longer be open for reservations, its legacy will always remain in the hearts of those who’ve experienced its warmth and charm. Thank you for being part of Lizzie’s story."

And it's marked as Temporarily Closed.  I think she has it as a home, but no longer as a business.

It’s listed as a wedding venue on the Inn’s Facebook page.

[goofygirl]

It's probably a good thing that Meri AND Janelle are keeping their MLM businesses.  They can't really do anything else, can they?

[ChristmasJones]

If you'd like to read about the status of the farm, here is a recent blog post about it:

https://taedafarms.com/blogs/news/patience-parenting-and-permits-lessons-from-building-a-farm

[Denize]

3 hours ago, ChristmasJones said:

If you'd like to read about the status of the farm, here is a recent blog post about it:

https://taedafarms.com/blogs/news/patience-parenting-and-permits-lessons-from-building-a-farm

Looks like an area that has been used to grow timber in the past for at least two decades. I see two large areas with two different ages of trees. Pinus Taeda = Loblolly Pine. They might do better if they continued as a Loblolly Pine farm to make money to slowly develop areas for flowers and whatever they want to grow.

Did they not notice the drainage ditches in the area, visible on Google Maps? No wonder there are water regulations to be followed. It reminds me of Coyote Pass with the spring run-off "pond" that you cannot build next to and the natural gas pipeline (in one scene a few years back, possibly during the search for Kootie's favourite pillow in one of the UHauls, I could actually read the gas line warning signs and no parking sign right where Kootie parked.  

Edited December 14, 2024 by Denize

[Meow Mix]

I imagine that this really is new to Maddie and Janelle who are used to Kody doing whatever he wants and not considering any regulations.  I admit that I will be surprised if this far ever produces anything but T-shirts.  It sounds like they have a long road ahead of them to get to growing flowers.  I agree that they should stick with the timber to make some money and slowly transition parts of the land.  

[Elizzikra]

7 hours ago, Meow Mix said:

I imagine that this really is new to Maddie and Janelle who are used to Kody doing whatever he wants and not considering any regulations.  I admit that I will be surprised if this far ever produces anything but T-shirts.  It sounds like they have a long road ahead of them to get to growing flowers.  I agree that they should stick with the timber to make some money and slowly transition parts of the land.  

I guess that it depends on the type of flowers but wouldn't they have had to have planted seeds by now if they want spring flowers?

[Absolom]

They'd probably need a greenhouse for spring flowers if they get frost there depending on what they are growing.

[Denize]

2 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

I guess that it depends on the type of flowers but wouldn't they have had to have planted seeds by now if they want spring flowers?

Turning pine forest soil into soil for flower beds takes work as pine trees need and fallen needles create very acidic soil (pH of 4.5-6.0). They may have have to truck in loads of topsoil or modify what is there with lime etc. to boost the pH to 6.0-7.5

[65mickey]

They would need to go with a county Forrest Ranger to determine if the timber is ready to cut for either pulpwood or logs. The more mature trees will yield a higher return. However they may be required to replant trees to make up for those that they cut. I wonder what their plan is and if they consulted any authorities before purchasing this property. I can see Coyote Pass part 2 in their future. 

[Orcinus orca]

The whole idea is totally whackadoodle without meticulous planning.  Management/sale/harvesting of trees, soil amendments, deciding on what gets planted where depending on sun vs shade, annuals or perennials, shrubs and trees or just flowers, an analysis of interest in that sort of item, it's just endless.  And we have seen absolutely no indication that any of this had been done.  More like "Hey, let's grow flowers.  Good idea. We'll buy the land and do a groundbreaking and then sell t-shirts.  Perfect!"

This will come to nothing just like the fitness center, the joorey business and everything else these morons pop out of their tiny little brains. They apparently still think their star status will provide an income in perpetuity.

[LilyD]

Buying a field full of (pine) trees to start a flower farm is mind-bogglingly stupid! It’s going to take foreverto clear the land and also, to get it ready for planting as @Denizepointed out. That is, if the soil recovers within a few years.  (We had, and still have this issue in our backyard. )

And starting a farming business without taking all the permits and surveys into consideration?? Please… For all you know, you bought a massive logging area where you’re not even allowed to farm in the end! 
 

Edited December 16, 2024 by LilyD

[Gramto6]

Maybe they should just stick with the timber...might turn out to be the best thing for them! The price of lumber has really gone up, they could make bucks with just that!

Edited December 16, 2024 by Gramto6
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[Absolom]

They might be better off if there is a small already cleared area going with a greenhouse and potted plant business. I go to three delightful places that operate that way.  My favorite began smalll with one building and is now up to six.  

[laurakaye]

I read Maddie's Taeda Farms blog, and I have to say - there is nothing more "Brown" than the caption with the picture of Janelle, who - although not one single seed has been planted yet - "has been picking flowers in her mind."

If only invisible flowers could create a lovely imaginary bouquet.

[goofygirl]

On 12/16/2024 at 12:47 PM, laurakaye said:

I read Maddie's Taeda Farms blog, and I have to say - there is nothing more "Brown" than the caption with the picture of Janelle, who - although not one single seed has been planted yet - "has been picking flowers in her mind."

If only invisible flowers could create a lovely imaginary bouquet.

That sounds PERFECT for Janelle!!

[Auntie Freeze]

I want this to succeed so badly. It's exactly what The Douchecanoe says he wanted, complete with adult kids moving to the area. And we know how into logging he is. Sucks to be him in his mansion of emotional dysregulation.

Edit: I need Janelle to have a porch.

Edited December 31, 2024 by Auntie Freeze

[ginger90]

Garrison’s townhouse has been sold. I’m assuming Janelle was involved. I’m hoping it’s more of a relief for her than anything else.

[Denize]

On 12/31/2024 at 9:12 AM, Auntie Freeze said:

Edit: I need Janelle to have a porch.

With four or more rocking chairs full of family & friends

Edited January 1 by Denize

[Elizzikra]

4 hours ago, Denize said:

With four or more rocking chairs full of family & friends

Overlooking a yard full of frolicking grandchildren...

[surfgirl]

18 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

Overlooking a yard full of frolicking grandchildren...

And at least one other OG sister wife. In a rocking chair. With a view.

Edited January 2 by surfgirl

[General Days]

On 12/31/2024 at 7:14 PM, ginger90 said:

Garrison’s townhouse has been sold. I’m assuming Janelle was involved. I’m hoping it’s more of a relief for her than anything else.

Poor Janelle. It's only been about 10 months.

[ginger90]

Janelle’s visiting the Vegas kids.

[Gramto6]

On 12/31/2024 at 5:14 PM, ginger90 said:

Garrison’s townhouse has been sold. I’m assuming Janelle was involved. I’m hoping it’s more of a relief for her than anything else.

I wonder if he had a will and where the proceeds are going? Maybe to that cat shelter?  Maybe Janelle? I also wonder if Kody is going to try to get some of it since he is Garrison's "dad".  Something I wouldn't put beyond the Douche.

[mythoughtis]

4 minutes ago, Gramto6 said:

I wonder if he had a will and where the proceeds are going? Maybe to that cat shelter?  Maybe Janelle? I also wonder if Kody is going to try to get some of it since he is Garrison's "dad".  Something I wouldn't put beyond the Douche.

I am sure he had a will beginning shortly after he joined the National Guard.   My thoughts are that he would have put Janelle as both the executor and the beneficiary.   

[Elizzikra]

8 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

I am sure he had a will beginning shortly after he joined the National Guard.   My thoughts are that he would have put Janelle as both the executor and the beneficiary.   

I hope he did. Many young people don't (hell, many older people don't). If he did not, his estate would be tied up in probate and his assets would ultimately go to his next of kin. This would be Janelle. I believe it would not be Kody if Kody isn't on his birth certificate listed as his father. Kody would have a case for half if he contested the findings of the probate court but I would hope that even a jackass like Kody would not fight Janelle.

Given Garrison's youth, it's unlikely that he had much in the way of assets. I know that he owned his townhouse but he had only had it a short time and had likely not made much (if any) of a dent on the principal of the loan. The house was sold and maybe made a little profit but the bulk of the sale price would have been to pay off the mortgage. He may have had a car that the owned outright but it's pretty common for people to have car payments, so there might not be much left after that is paid. Any outstanding creditors would have to be paid including credit cards, medical bills, etc. He may have had life insurance through the Coast Guard but I am guessing that wasn't a large policy either.

All of which is to say, as successful as Garrison was for someone his age, I doubt there was much less to fight over, especially after funeral expenses were paid and the townhouse cleaned and readied for sale. Hopefully Kody wouldn't view half of whatever was left as worth fighting Janelle over.

[Gramto6]

19 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

I am sure he had a will beginning shortly after he joined the National Guard.   My thoughts are that he would have put Janelle as both the executor and the beneficiary.   

Good point! I had forgotten about his military service. Yes, he surely did.  Then Kody has no way to get his claws into that money, phew!

5 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

Hopefully Kody wouldn't view half of whatever was left as worth fighting Janelle over.

Never underestimate the Douche. Especially after what he said about Janelle last episode.  Her trying to cheat him out of anything she can....

Edited Yest. at 04:54 AM by Gramto6
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[Orcinus orca]

8 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

I am sure he had a will beginning shortly after he joined the National Guard.  

Those joining the military are strongly advised to have a will but it is not a requirement.

[ginger90]

9 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

I believe it would not be Kody if Kody isn't on his birth certificate listed as his father.

Janelle has stated he’s on all of her children’s birth certificates.