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On 8/13/2020 at 10:20 AM, laurakaye said:

Who's going to take one for the team and enter this virtual shindig?  Winner of the baking contest gets a paper sack full of slightly damp leggings!

And when she says 150 years...I'm assuming she means the house was built 150 years ago?  Because it's only been a B&B for like two years, so it's kind of odd to celebrate something that - for anyone not in Meri's family - didn't even exist until a couple of years ago.

I thought it was a B&B for several years before meri bought it?

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5 minutes ago, Joan of Argh said:

I thought it was a B&B for several years before meri bought it?

She did operate it as a BnB before Meri bought it but I wonder how successful it was.  That may have motivated Janelle and Kody's concerns about a business plan (Meri DID have one, in her head).  The former owner was selling a business, not just a home and there should have been Profit and Loss statements available for all the years she had been in business.  Meri was buying from an emotional perspective and I think the prior owner contacted Meri and unloaded it on her when she sensed that Meri was adrift and needed to connect to something.  Smart move on her part.

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13 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

I thought it was a B&B for several years before meri bought it?

Several, but not 150.  Apparently the place was built in 1870, though there were other buildings on the site before that.  Also, didn't it turn out that Meri mixed up some of the ancestors in her head and the original owners weren't plygs with plyg doors to the outside?  It may have been a no-tell motel before the last owner bought it.

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2 hours ago, deirdra said:

Several, but not 150.  Apparently the place was built in 1870, though there were other buildings on the site before that.  Also, didn't it turn out that Meri mixed up some of the ancestors in her head and the original owners weren't plygs with plyg doors to the outside?  It may have been a no-tell motel before the last owner bought it.

I don't think they were ever polygamists living there before Meri bought it. My guess is that the outside doors and the additional bathrooms (and maybe even part of the structure in total) were added by the last owner who operated it under the name (I think) Victoria's B&B. I suppose that kind of work would require permits and would therefore be public record. 

Remember Meri's parents didn't become polygamists until she was 5 years old, there's no evidence of any polygamy before that. Polygamy is probably more common in Utah than any other state but I think I read there are 50-60k polygamists in the state which is a small percentage of the total state population. 

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Meri romanticized 🤢 that whole concept of the exterior door to a bedroom as one utilized in the practice of polygamy.  What did she think happened, the stud would be stationary in that room and on their lucky nights, the wives would creep down from their own bedroom, through the front door, around the porch and slip into the master's chamber?  Or possibly, whoever's night it was, would settle in for the night in that main floor bedroom and the husband, on the pretext of enjoying the night air, would step out on to the porch and surreptitiously sidle into the love chamber.  The laundry situation must have been overwhelming if that one room was the scene every night.

More likely, as DakotaJustice said, the extra exterior door was installed by Victoria to accommodate her BnB guests or it may have been used by Lizzie for her millinery shop.  Not uncommon in those days for a small business such as a seamstress to use a main floor room of their house with an exterior door to avoid customers entering the main house.  For sure, bathrooms would have been added, unlikely that there was indoor plumbing 150 years ago and even when it did come in, ensuite bathrooms would never have been found in such a basically humble farmhouse style home.

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Gluttons for punishment = Meri's clueless customers.

Apparently she was a rill bitch at one of her live sales, berating customers for not reading her big list of rules, and asking questions.  You'd think she'd be kissing their behinds, but it's the opposite.  Overpaying for synthetic crap that they could find at Goodwill for a fraction of the cost.  Suckers.

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1 hour ago, xwordfanatik said:

Gluttons for punishment = Meri's clueless customers.

  Suckers.

Speaking of Suckers, over on one of the SW facebook pages I participate in, they are on about the RK treats.  One person said that they were awesome and they would pay double.  Another said that they were generous and wrapped so flipping cute.  One brave soul spoke up and said "you better take out a loan first".  She got booted off Meri's page for that.

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On 8/16/2020 at 3:14 PM, DakotaJustice said:

Remember Meri's parents didn't become polygamists until she was 5 years old, there's no evidence of any polygamy before that. 

Whoa, I did not know that.  So her dad's other wives came after she was a child?  That's interesting.

That's quite the juxtaposition between the poor soul trying to unload brand-new LuLaCrap for a measly $5 a pop...and then there's Meri standing among a dozen or more boxes packed full of the stuff.  Does Meri honestly have that many sycophants that buy her clothes for the full markup price?  I mean, if I'm clamoring for a LuLaNo Mimi MuMu dress in a strategically-placed hot dog pattern, I think I would hit up the GOOB sales first before I tried to join a live FB sale and pay full price.  This business HAS to be super close to the tipping point of going completely under by now, right?

And oh my gosh, ENOUGH WITH THE DISNEY STUFF ALREADY MERI.  There's a PANDEMIC.  Let it go!  And stop stalking Blair Michael, he doesn't care either!!

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23 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Whoa, I did not know that.  So her dad's other wives came after she was a child?  That's interesting.

Isn’t that the standard in plural families though? @DakotaJustice maybe you know- I always thought the Brown family was an outlier in the 3 wives being married in before the first child was born. Typically doesn’t the first wife have 1 or 2 kids before a second wife comes along? I know the Drager husband married his first two wives on the same day but I thought he was a rarity too. I remember in  season 1 Maddie and maybe Aspyn were talking about how they had seen other Dads “court” but never expected their Dad to be courting, but hey at least Robin wasn’t 19!

 

I remember in Season 5 or 6 they took a road trip and met a plural family, with two wives, wife 1 had such beautiful red hair, and she was the bio mom to ALL 9 kids and had 3 kids before wife 2 came along. They were also the family where the husband always took the first bite of food (that weirded me out). Meri seemed to connect to that family. 
 

Maybe Meri wanted to have all the wives brought in before kids for more cohension? Or it just worked out that way with when Janelle was due to have Logan. 

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9 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

Isn’t that the standard in plural families though? @DakotaJustice maybe you know- I always thought the Brown family was an outlier in the 3 wives being married in before the first child was born. Typically doesn’t the first wife have 1 or 2 kids before a second wife comes along? I know the Drager husband married his first two wives on the same day but I thought he was a rarity too. I remember in  season 1 Maddie and maybe Aspyn were talking about how they had seen other Dads “court” but never expected their Dad to be courting, but hey at least Robin wasn’t 19!

 

I remember in Season 5 or 6 they took a road trip and met a plural family, with two wives, wife 1 had such beautiful red hair, and she was the bio mom to ALL 9 kids and had 3 kids before wife 2 came along. They were also the family where the husband always too the first bite of food (that weirded me out). Meri seemed to connect to that family. 
 

Maybe Meri wanted to have all the wives brought in before kids for more cohension? Or it just worked out that way with when Janelle was due to have Logan. 

From what I read in Robyn's NY Times Bestseller (ha!) Meri was completely blindsided by Janelle. She was sneaking around with Kody having long cozy lunches together. 

Janelle just had to finalize her divorce from Meri's brother before they could get married on Meri's birthday! Clearly they had not considered Meri's feelings at all, at least they (grudgingly I bet) moved the wedding to the FOLLOWING DAY. There's empathy for you! I don't care for ANY of these women, but I can see why Meri was such a bitch. Clearly she wasn't ready to share. 

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10 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

 

 

I remember in Season 5 or 6 they took a road trip and met a plural family, with two wives, wife 1 had such beautiful red hair, and she was the bio mom to ALL 9 kids and had 3 kids before wife 2 came along. They were also the family where the husband always too the first bite of food (that weirded me out). Meri seemed to connect to that family.

I remember that visit with second hand embarrassment for Kody, although he was too socially inept to realize he was out of line.  There was a young boy about 6 or 7 with red hair and Kody suggested with that hair, he would make a good boyfriend for one of his teen aged girls.  The child was confused and didn't catch the drift but Kody relentlessly kept it up until the child dissolved in tears.  Disgraceful that a father of 15 kids would be so insensitive and not be able to "read" a child's reactions.

Kody seized another opportunity to showboat when it came time for grace before the meal, without being asked to do so, Kody commandeered the role and recited the grace...in Hebrew.

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7 minutes ago, DakotaJustice said:

From what I read in Robyn's NY Times Bestseller (ha!) Meri was completely blindsided by Janelle. She was sneaking around with Kody having long cozy lunches together. 

Janelle just had to finalize her divorce from Meri's brother before they could get married on Meri's birthday! Clearly they had not considered Meri's feelings at all, at least they (grudgingly I bet) moved the wedding to the FOLLOWING DAY. There's empathy for you! I don't care for ANY of these women, but I can see why Meri was such a bitch. Clearly she wasn't ready to share. 

Meri never wanted to share Kody. Not ever. She was in love with him. 
 

I personally think plural families could work fine if no one was romantically in love with anyone else. I mean you do want to like and respect the person you are in a family with, and if you’re expected to procreate with them not wanting to gag at the idea of sex with them is a good idea. But “in love”- that’s just a recipe for emotional turmoil. 
 

Add in her fertility issues, and then how well Christine and Janelle got along- Meri was the odd woman out, yes for years she was Kody’s fav but that wasn’t enough for her. Are we surprised by the catfish?? Nope not me!

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Yeah, I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes. I knew about wanting to tie the knot on Meri's bday but not until just now did it sink in that every year on Meri's bday it would also be their wedding anniversary. For the rest of everyone's lives. Are you effing kidding me?! That knocked me for a loop. "Help! I've fallen and I can't get up."

Janelle just reached a new level on my hate list. 

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On 8/6/2020 at 9:32 AM, Kohola3 said:

What kind of "exciting things" can they possibly be doing in the middle of a pandemic?  New additives to the overpriced Rice Krispies Treats? 

Maybe she's joining up with the Pioneer Woman and making some southwest style with cayenne and hot peppers.

Maybe they're releasing more Lizzy's Inn knickknacks that you can order online.  Bookmarks, postcards, handkerchiefs, face masks with Heritage Inn embroidered across the front....

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5 hours ago, DakotaJustice said:

Janelle just had to finalize her divorce from Meri's brother before they could get married on Meri's birthday! Clearly they had not considered Meri's feelings at all, at least they (grudgingly I bet) moved the wedding to the FOLLOWING DAY. There's empathy for you! I don't care for ANY of these women, but I can see why Meri was such a bitch. Clearly she wasn't ready to share.

No doubt about it - Meri can be a real bi**h.  But I don't think Kody has EVER cared about Meri's feelings.  And I think that might be why she is so over-the-top touchy about FORCING her wants and opinions - over compensating to make a point. Like picking her spot on plagueland, and the wet bar, and having honking huge houses to toss her mountains of Lularot stock into.  Robyn and Kody smirked and googly-eyed each other during the fake divorce proceedings for the camera while Meri cried her heart out.  And by the way - WHY did Robyn even have to be in the room right then?  Anyone?

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15 minutes ago, Kyanight said:

No doubt about it - Meri can be a real bi**h.  But I don't think Kody has EVER cared about Meri's feelings.  And I think that might be why she is so over-the-top touchy about FORCING her wants and opinions - over compensating to make a point. Like picking her spot on plagueland, and the wet bar, and having honking huge houses to toss her mountains of Lularot stock into.  Robyn and Kody smirked and googly-eyed each other during the fake divorce proceedings for the camera while Meri cried her heart out.  And by the way - WHY did Robyn even have to be in the room right then?  Anyone?

Gotta admit, I did fill a bit sorry for Meri during that bullshit divorce drama.  Robyn is a snake.  She knew just how to play that family and get what she wanted.  Meri fell right into her spiderweb, and Kootie was bamboozled by her skinny body and Hapsburg Jay Leno jaw.  

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19 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

Meri never wanted to share Kody. Not ever. She was in love with him. 
 

I personally think plural families could work fine if no one was romantically in love with anyone else. I mean you do want to like and respect the person you are in a family with, and if you’re expected to procreate with them not wanting to gag at the idea of sex with them is a good idea. But “in love”- that’s just a recipe for emotional turmoil. 
 

Add in her fertility issues, and then how well Christine and Janelle got along- Meri was the odd woman out, yes for years she was Kody’s fav but that wasn’t enough for her. Are we surprised by the catfish?? Nope not me!

I was surprised--because Meri was warned in the beginning that "Sam" was likely fake. But she kept on with it, despite the warnings. I get that she was feeling terrible about her life and just wanted to be loved by someone, but she chose to believe the unrealistic, fake-ass fantasy of an "enlightened" millionaire who wanted to run away with a lumbering, crying, needy Meri

I can only imagine the humiliation she felt as it fell apart. She'll never outrun that one--not because she was fooled, but because she was warned and still blasted down the track full steam ahead. 

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1 hour ago, TurtlePower said:

I was surprised--because Meri was warned in the beginning that "Sam" was likely fake. But she kept on with it, despite the warnings. I get that she was feeling terrible about her life and just wanted to be loved by someone, but she chose to believe the unrealistic, fake-ass fantasy of an "enlightened" millionaire who wanted to run away with a lumbering, crying, needy Meri

I can only imagine the humiliation she felt as it fell apart. She'll never outrun that one--not because she was fooled, but because she was warned and still blasted down the track full steam ahead. 

I get that she was warned, should have known better--and should have left Kody completely before starting any kind of romantic relationship--but how many people are warned about someone they are infatuated with and still keep on pursuing a relationship with that person? Infatuation or "new love" is a powerful drug and can be addicting. It feels good, so one disregards how bad it can be for you. YMMV

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16 minutes ago, CocoPuffs said:

Yeah but come on, this “man” said he was a millionaire with private jets and homes all over the world. From his “pic” he looked young, fit and handsome. If Meri was fool enough to believe that he was looking for love with her (and especially with no ulterior motives), she should have had a caregiver watching out for her well being 24/7. I could see it more if maybe she was a young, attractive version of herself, but again - come on. I would be wondering why this guy wants me of all people and would have been extremely cautious and amused that someone had the audacity.

Now if Jackie Overton had presented “himself” as a middle-aged divorcee with salt and pepper cowlicks who is Marge’s neighbor from Podunk, Iowa (the one @laurakaye always refers to, lol), and he works out at the 10 Fitness down the street and owns a string of small businesses and is just looking for someone special to love him the way everyone deserves and the pic used in the profile was an average almost handsome Joe — then I’d definitely give Meri the benefit of the doubt for falling for that.

But this guy—-nah.

 

All VERY valid points....  but regardless of how it might seem, these women have lived fairly sheltered lives and I would imagine all of them are a bit naive.  Still....................

Although I can see Meri's side, you mention some really huge red flags.  The half-faced photo (apparently the one and ONLY picture ever taken of "Sam" NEVER went with Jackie Overton's voice.   The first time I heard her voice, I thought it sounded like a woman or a rather feminine man.  Even if I take away the fact that I already knew Jackie was a woman pretending to be a man... the voice most definitely did NOT fit the man.  Secondly, for the life of me I cannot believe anyone would be stupid enough to believe that an almost illiterate man could own his own business and be a millionaire.  Jackie can barely write a single sentence that is grammatically correct and doesn't have a dozen misspelled words.  Meri certainly must have exchanged texts for a number of months - wouldn't you have some red flags going off that a supposedly educated successful man writes like a second grade kid?

I get Meri's vulnerability - BIG TIME!!  But.... I struggle to understand certain aspects of the scenario.

Last but not least:  although Meri knew that Sam didn't exist by the time those two atrocious books were written, Jackie has people who actually still to this day believe that she is Sam.  If you have seen a single PAGE of either of those books I ask you - how can a successful businessman own corporations and write WORSE than an elementary student?  And secondly - what millionaire businessman:

  A.) doesn't even have the thought occur to him to hire a proofreader,

B.) can't afford a proofreader?

  C.) Doesn't realize that he struggles with written words, syntax, context, flow, paragraphs, spellings, grammar, I could go on an on,

D.) Isn't embarrassed one bit when people point out that he sounds like a blubbering idiot and that 93% of the book barely makes sense

Yeah.  I can understand Meri's vulnerability, but Jackie Overton literally makes me want to vomit for a dozen different reasons.

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5 minutes ago, CocoPuffs said:

Yeah but come on, this “man” said he was a millionaire with private jets and homes all over the world. From his “pic” he looked young, fit and handsome. If Meri was fool enough to believe that he was looking for love with her (and especially with no ulterior motives), she should have had a caregiver watching out for her well being 24/7. I could see it more if maybe she was a young, attractive version of herself, but again - come on. I would be wondering why this guy wants me of all people and would have been extremely cautious and amused that someone had the audacity.

Now if Jackie Overton had presented “himself” as a middle-aged divorcee with salt and pepper cowlicks who is Marge’s neighbor from Podunk, Iowa (the one @laurakaye always refers to, lol), and he works out at the 10 Fitness down the street and owns a string of small businesses and is just looking for someone special to love him the way everyone deserves and the pic used in the profile was an average almost handsome Joe — then I’d definitely give Meri the benefit of the doubt for falling for that.

But this guy—-nah.

 

I think a lot can be attributed to Meri's naivete, in that she was raised without much exposure to real life.  I don't think she dated around  outside of the restrictive polygamous circles and didn't have any life experiences, education beyond high school, a career or travel outside of the enclave she grew up in.  It's hard to look at from an outsiders perspective, but I know for sure, that about age 16, I would have seen right through the preposterous presentation that "Sam" was making.

I think Meri was swept away, believing that she was participating in one of those trashy paperback "bodice ripper" novels and convinced herself that she had as much to bring to this fictional relationship as was being offered to her.  She may have borrowed Christine's Rose Colored Glasses when looking in the mirror and thought she had the beauty and brains to fit right in to this fantasy life.

There came a time in their text exchanges however, when the line between mild, flattering, flirtation and full on cheating was crossed.  No matter how naive Meri was, common sense would have told her that what she was participating in was deceitful and dishonest.  At that point, if she had a shred of integrity, she should have gone to the family and said--- my needs are not being met here, I am moving on.  Whether her White Knight was coming to sweep her away or she was going to carve a more satisfying life for herself, the path was clear, she was frustrated and unhappy.  She chose to stay as a pariah in the family, motivated either by TLC income and the exposure the program brought for her side gigs or an overwhelming sense of shame and the need to make things right with the family.  I'm inclined to think that she remained because of the material benefits.

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I think it’s also possible that perhaps Meri overestimated her d-list star power and thought that could be why a handsome millionaire could be interested in her.  Look at how speshul her daughter thinks she is because she was on a reality tv show.  She honestly thinks we care about her woke babble, and because of social media, they all have their share of fawning followers.

I just think it was the perfect storm for Meri.  I can’t blame her for wanting someone to love her.  I just think she is going about it all wrong.  She was never meant for this life style, if anyone is . . . No, I’ve said this before, if I were Meri, I would have a private meeting with the show producers and tell them that I could provide them with much better content by escaping the polygamy nightmare and finally seeing what the world has to offer.  Let’s face it, this show is stale.  And boring.  Why not get revenge on those who have betrayed you (Kody, Janelle, Robin) and steal their gig?  It would be very therapeutic to my mind.  Maybe take Christine with you - she’s never really set out to screw you.  If you could get her to open up her eyes and see that she could do/have better in the monogamous world, it could be very fun to watch.  I have to think, based on what she tries to portray on her insta, that Meri is a more fun gal when away from what oppresses her.  So it would be refreshing to see her and Christine having a good time and Kody (with Dumb and Dumber) moving into a trailer park because they lost their gig. 

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On 8/19/2020 at 11:18 AM, DakotaJustice said:

From what I read in Robyn's NY Times Bestseller (ha!) Meri was completely blindsided by Janelle. She was sneaking around with Kody having long cozy lunches together. 

Janelle just had to finalize her divorce from Meri's brother before they could get married on Meri's birthday! Clearly they had not considered Meri's feelings at all, at least they (grudgingly I bet) moved the wedding to the FOLLOWING DAY. There's empathy for you! I don't care for ANY of these women, but I can see why Meri was such a bitch. Clearly she wasn't ready to share. 

The fact that Janelle and Kody snuck around, plus the fact that they married on Meri's birthday - that's behavior designed to cut Meri as deeply as possible and then throw some salt into the wound just for kicks.  There is absolutely no excuse for those two "buddies" to get married when any of the other 364 days of the year would do.  That was done with a purpose.  I can't believe I'm saying this but for as much of a b!tch as Meri has been towards Janelle, Janelle is the one that dropped Meri's brother, flirted with Kody without Meri knowing (and yes, KODY should have been the one to tell Meri but Janelle also certainly knew Meri very well - they were FAMILY, for crying out loud), and then married her golden-haired dreamboat on her sister-wife's birthday.  I mean, I say that Robyn is a sociopath?  Might as well add dead-eyed Janelle to that list too.  The way these women treat each other is just completely unhinged.

 

7 hours ago, TurtlePower said:

I was surprised--because Meri was warned in the beginning that "Sam" was likely fake. But she kept on with it, despite the warnings. I get that she was feeling terrible about her life and just wanted to be loved by someone, but she chose to believe the unrealistic, fake-ass fantasy of an "enlightened" millionaire who wanted to run away with a lumbering, crying, needy Meri

I had way too many quotes here so I narrowed it down to just one - but yes, I 100% agree that the high that Meri felt from Sam kept her chasing "him" even after her gut probably told her that he was bad, bad news...as evidenced by the many times she met up with another of Sam's victims and they giggled and shopped and went out to dinner, etc.  By connecting with those women, Meri was continuing the high.

 

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I have no love for Meri, but damn, Robyn, Jennelle and Kody have been beyond hateful to her. Marrying Janelle on Meri’s birthday, and Robyn being there when Kody divorced Meri are stone cold fuck you moves. I don’t understand why she sticks around, especially since she’s a self- proclaimed strong boss woman. She’s really immature when it comes to romantic involvement - like a teenager.

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8 hours ago, Kyanight said:

Totally agree.  I think you (you meaning anyone reading this post) need to imagine for a minute that your husband of what - 20 years or more? -  is no longer interested in you - but you still love him.  INSTEAD.... he has a new girlfriend that he flaunts in your face and drools over and ogles, and has sex with all of the time - KNOWING that you know this.  And he expects you to be NICE to this girlfriend, to treat her three kids she brought to the relationship as family, and to treat HER as family.  Imagine that you only had one baby and your greatest desire was to have several children - but you couldn't conceive..... and your husband then makes babies with this new girlfriend that he favors and is always panting over.  And your husband takes the family funds and pays off this woman's debts and pays all of her bills while she sleeps until noon and basically does nothing to help out the family financially.  That your husband takes this woman on romantic vacations for a longer period of time than he EVER took you for a vacation!  Imagine that your husband divorces you and brings this woman to the dissolution of marriage before the judge and they grin at each other in glee as you sit and cry your eyes out - and then they go into another room and get married.  And imagine that SOME of this is on camera for the entire world to view.  (Regardless of whether you agreed to this or not - agreeing to a vague concept is different than actually experiencing it!)

Seriously.  Can you not understand how it might feel to have someone interested in YOU...... YOU... not the new square-chinned girlfriend who now calls all of the shots and influences every decision even when it comes to YOU, down to what state you have to move to, friends you have to leave, etc.   A man whose attention is focused on you and seems to actually care about you.  

While almost all of us agree that the behavior was wrong and over-the-top for a married woman, I can certainly understand how she might have been feeling at the time.  And if there was the slightest chance that this "man" was real, Meri grasped at the straw.

I just can’t, I suppose, understand how a frumpy, chunky, middle-aged woman (who’s been warned not to trust said “man”) could imagine she’d be of interest to such a person. A rich, good-looking, fit vegan? And Meri? 

I get her feeling put out. Totally. I wouldn’t have blamed her had she found a real man and been like, I’m out, assholes. 

BUT—Meri lied. She blamed the catfish for all of it. That’s where I lost empathy for her, because she pursued this relationship hard. She wasn’t 100% victim, and she has tried to twist it that way. Had she just come out and been honest, said she was lonely, sad and unloved, I’d have respected that. 

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2 hours ago, TurtlePower said:

BUT—Meri lied. She blamed the catfish for all of it. That’s where I lost empathy for her, because she pursued this relationship hard. She wasn’t 100% victim, and she has tried to twist it that way. Had she just come out and been honest, said she was lonely, sad and unloved, I’d have respected that. 

All truth!  She DOES make herself the victim and refuse to accept any responsibility!!

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56 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

 

Aw.  I wrote the snarkiest comment EVER and then went back and read this again.  I like Bonnie and respect her, too.  And I respect something made by hand.  If Meri had announced new ball caps or face masks with the Heritage Inn embroidered across it that she purchased in bulk for cheap and was unleashing on her fans for big $$$$$ -  I would have released all of my inner snark..... but.... Bonnie doesn't deserve that. 

Good for you, Bonnie!

(But Meri - there's this thing called "Covid" - it's a pandemic -  and people are struggling to keep their homes right now.  It's not like everyone has all this extra money to send you for ANYTHING.)  

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2 minutes ago, Kyanight said:

Aw.  I wrote the snarkiest comment EVER and then went back and read this again.  I like Bonnie and respect her, too.  And I respect something made by hand.  If Meri had announced new ball caps or face masks with the Heritage Inn embroidered across it that she purchased in bulk for cheap and unleashing on her fans for big $$$$$ -  I would have released all of my inner snark..... but.... Bonnie doesn't deserve that. 

Good for you, Bonnie!

(But Meri - there's this thing called "Covid" - it's a pandemic -  and people are struggling to keep their homes right now.

I too would never snark on Bonnie...but Meri, really? Making you 75 year old mother make pot holders for you to sell?  Un-fricking-believable!

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8 hours ago, Gramto6 said:

I too would never snark on Bonnie...but Meri, really? Making you 75 year old mother make pot holders for you to sell? 

Well, I am sure they have no guests (pandemic or not) so not much else for her to do.  And I am sure they are fine pot holders.  But the colors - ugh.  And I'm sure they cost a fortune plus S&H so I'll stick to buying that kind of stuff from the local nursing home craft sale at Christmas.

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$15 per hot pad??  Come on!  You'd have to have a rilly strong connection to Lizzie's Heritage Inn to fork over money for hot pads, of all things.  Usually when I visit new places, I come back with one of those comfy long-sleeved t-shirts with the location in huge white letters across the back, and maybe a painting or a piece of art from whatever quirky little shop I can find.  Hot pads?  I can buy those at the dollar store.

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$30.00 is a lot to pay for pot holders however they are a handmade craft. I had a friend who made different things to sell, not potholders hers were more advanced, and she said if you sell your crafts you need to charge for your materials and your time. You should at least charge minimum wage. People who sell their handmade crafts are never truly paid for the value of their time and work. Does that mean I think the potholders are worth $30.00? Probably not but if they were done well and in colors I liked I might pay $20.00.

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50 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said:

$30.00 is a lot to pay for pot holders however they are a handmade craft. I had a friend who made different things to sell, not potholders hers were more advanced, and she said if you sell your crafts you need to charge for your materials and your time. You should at least charge minimum wage. People who sell their handmade crafts are never truly paid for the value of their time and work. Does that mean I think the potholders are worth $30.00? Probably not but if they were done well and in colors I liked I might pay $20.00.

I agree.   And while potholders are a necessity if you cook or bake, I have to say that I am really hard on them.  They get stained and have been burned a time or two (mostly by one of my kids when they were learning to cook, lol.)  They don't stay pretty for long in my house.  😞     So ... yeah.... I wouldn't want to pay $30 even if money weren't tight like it is right now.

 

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