LilyD November 27, 2024 Share November 27, 2024 A question to my fellow posters: What Meri did, would you call that cheating? My gut tells me it is, because: You are in a relationship, albeit an unhappy one and you don't see much of him. However, both Meri and Kody clearly agreed they were still 'spiritually married'. That means you're not free to pursue someone else. In my book, having intimate and/or sexual conversations or texts with another man or woman who is not your partner, is a form of cheating as well. Iirc Meri did say she would leave Kody for Sam if given the chance. It's tricky. In a way I am very sympathetic of Meri, but I also feel that you should end a relationship if you're not happy before you become involved with someone else. Just curious what you're thinking ☺️ 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8519132
Soapy Goddess November 27, 2024 Share November 27, 2024 8 minutes ago, LilyD said: A question to my fellow posters: What Meri did, would you call that cheating? My gut tells me it is, because: You are in a relationship, albeit an unhappy one and you don't see much of him. However, both Meri and Kody clearly agreed they were still 'spiritually married'. That means you're not free to pursue someone else. In my book, having intimate and/or sexual conversations or texts with another man or woman who is not your partner, is a form of cheating as well. Iirc Meri did say she would leave Kody for Sam if given the chance. It's tricky. In a way I am very sympathetic of Meri, but I also feel that you should end a relationship if you're not happy before you become involved with someone else. Just curious what you're thinking ☺️ I see it differently and would not call it cheating because: Meri was not married to Kody at the time. K&R forced a divorce for what was IMO a ridiculous excuse. Kody was not sleeping with Meri anymore, which constitutes some form of abandonment by Kody. If Sam had been a real person and Meri left, I don't believe Kody would have mourned a loss. He pulled any love (alienation of affection) he had for Meri away from her the minute he was legally married to Robyn. 7 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8519135
BAForever November 27, 2024 Share November 27, 2024 Reading above from @Soapy Goddess, @LotusFlower, @General Days, @LilyD. To me, it’s one of those situations where there two things (or more) can be true at the same time. I think Meri was depressed, loved the flattery and attention of FakeSam, and was mortified that she got catfished. With how Kody treated her, I'm willing to give her a pass. I know I've done stupid things in my life that I wish no one knew about, the public humiliation is plenty for Meri. 11 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8519144
LotusFlower November 27, 2024 Share November 27, 2024 Yes, Meri cheated. That’s why the tense discussion she had with Leon stood out to me - Leon was definitely giving Meri the side-eye for things he knew about the relationship with Sam, implying the romantic nature of it. It took me awhile to figure it out because a) they were kinda talking in code, and b) I hate Kody so much, so it would never dawn on me to think about it from his POV. But, as Leon pointed out, Kody was his father, his parents were indeed married, and Meri carried on a months-long online affair with a person she planned to run away with. How is that not cheating? That being said, the nature of polygamy is so incredibly unfair and sexist towards the sister wives, so I’m totally sympathetic to the predicament Meri was in. Which is why I keep saying how fascinating it would have been if Meri had opened up and talked truthfully about the whole affair. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8519281
ginger90 November 27, 2024 Share November 27, 2024 @LotusFlower Leon needs to be referred to using they/them pronouns. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8519286
Roslyn November 27, 2024 Share November 27, 2024 I think people still harp on Meri about the catfishing because she hasn't come fully clean. On the show she stuck with the "made a friend and it all went wrong" story but those who followed the story for that year (2015) watched it all happen. Once the catfish woman began releasing the photos and screenshots it was apparent that Meri was fully involved in an emotional affair. Even tho it was a well executed scam, Meri was all in on her side. Just bring up the mental images of Meri's romantic bare feet in bathtub with candles all around, the infamous banana photo, the softly sensual "come hither" selfie and the horrifying arm photo where she scratched "SAM" into her skin turning it bright red. On one episode in a couch session Kody point blank asked Meri "you said you were being threatened...but threatened with WHAT?" And Meri stammered and shut down. She obviously couldn't or wouldn't say (especially on camera) threatened to release all the sexy texting, voicemails and photos because at that time Kody didn't know they existed. She tried to claim that she had not personally listened to the "supposed voicemails" that she was asked about but said that someone else told her they sounded "spliced together" aka "fake" Whether or not a person believes that an over the phone, only in your head, love feeling is an actual affair or not is a personal belief. But if you opened your partners phone and saw they were sending sensually suggestive photos and talking about a "friends" penis size how on earth would you feel? Even if they had never met this person in real life it is at minimum a betrayal of trust within a relationship. And the theory that "Meri wasn't technically married to Kody at that time" (in my opinion) doesn't excuse it all because she has been clear in todays time that she stayed loyal to Kody and did not considered herself actually "divorced" until her official church release. So coming from her...that means her time with the catfish qualifies as at a minimum an emotional affair. 2 4 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8519355
Natalie68 November 27, 2024 Share November 27, 2024 7 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said: I see it differently and would not call it cheating because: Meri was not married to Kody at the time. K&R forced a divorce for what was IMO a ridiculous excuse. Kody was not sleeping with Meri anymore, which constitutes some form of abandonment by Kody. If Sam had been a real person and Meri left, I don't believe Kody would have mourned a loss. He pulled any love (alienation of affection) he had for Meri away from her the minute he was legally married to Robyn. I agree. Now I don't have to type all of that out :). 3 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8519360
Denize November 27, 2024 Share November 27, 2024 I don't think it would be cheating if Meri were a divorced monogamist, but it could be for a spiritually-married plyg who wanted a guaranteed spot in plyg heaven. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8519586
Orcinus orca November 27, 2024 Share November 27, 2024 For a lively debate on this just go back to when this occurred. Pages and pages of discussion. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8519622
SunnyBeBe November 28, 2024 Share November 28, 2024 Anyone know who else lives with Meri at the location formerly known as Lizzy’s Inn? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8520051
smarty January 4 Share January 4 Meri apparently refinanced her BNB on Dec. 23, 2024 and took out a $485,000 mortgage. Her previous mortgage amount was $308,000 in April 2018. https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/sister-wives-meri-brown-takes-out-3rd-loan-on-bed-and-breakfast/ 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8546319
LilyD January 4 Share January 4 4 hours ago, smarty said: Meri apparently refinanced her BNB on Dec. 23, 2024 and took out a $485,000 mortgage. Her previous mortgage amount was $308,000 in April 2018. Plus the 346,500 she took out in October 2017 per the same article. That amounts to over a million dollar worth of mortgages! I just wonder why? The 346,500 makes sense: It was the first and she needed a way to finance the home. The third could be to fund the renovation she posted about, but why the second? Let's hope it wasn't to support Kody and Robyn financially..... 1 1 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8546448
Absolom January 5 Share January 5 (edited) She probably doesn't owe a million. Lizzie's isn't worth a million is it? With the refinance, part of the money would have gone to paying off the old mortgage and then she would have the balance to use. It's basically a new mortgage replacing the old one to pull out the equity she'd built. ETA: Zillow thinks the house and land are worth around $710K so having the last number as her current mortgage makes sense. Edited January 5 by Absolom 6 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8546609
Denize January 5 Share January 5 (edited) Looking at the assessed value history, it has more than doubled in value since she bought it, and her current mortgage probably includes more borrowed against the equity to cover renovations and property taxes. It looks like she put a new roof on it, perhaps when those tall trees were removed in ~2021. And she has paved the driveway & parking area, really keeping the place up. I too suspect she only has the one mortgage that paid off the previous ones; common when refinancing at a lower interest rate. Year Property taxes Tax assessment 2023 $4,596 +9.8% $563,750 +17.9% 2022 $4,185 +27.6% $478,140 +39.6% 2021 $3,280 $342,570 +32% 2020 -- $259,550 +11.1% 2019 $2,654 +0.6% $233,710 +2.8% 2018 $2,638 -5.8% $227,305 +2% 2017 $2,800 +7.9% $222,885 +7.9% Edited January 5 by Denize 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8546711
GeorgiaRai January 5 Share January 5 County records show the 2017 mortgage ($346,500) was paid off when Meri refinanced in 2018. The records look like she now has 2 mortgages - $308,000 (2018) and $485,000 (2023) - BUT as others have said, the older loan was probably just paid off with the new loan and a release is in process. I don't know Utah laws but in Georgia, lenders have 90 days to get a release filed. It's impressive that she was able to get a smaller loan in 2018 than what she needed to purchase the property in 2017. (What was going on in MeriWorld in 2018?) If she now has just the $485,000 mortgage (that gave her, say, $177,000 or so cash out) and if the Zillow value stated above is correct, I think she's in a pretty good situation equity-wise. 3 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8546786
General Days January 6 Share January 6 (edited) I think the article title is misleading and that it's a refinance, so the $485K will pay off the balance of the older loan. ADDED IN EDIT: Apparently Jenn & Meri mentioned this in a Fridays With Friends video, the other day. Meri just refinanced. Part of the new loan paid off the old one and the rest is going toward reservations. She doesn't have a million+ in loans. https://www.instagram.com/p/DEYiJ6VsHl9/ Edited January 6 by General Days Added info and a link 5 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8547570
ginger90 January 21 Share January 21 3 1 3 6 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8559840
laurakaye January 22 Share January 22 Meri and Jen did a semi-cleverly edited video (I saw it on Tik Tok) and they have their own page called Salty Birches. Jen ends the video by saying "F*** you, Kody!" I guess I have mixed feelings with Janelle selling t-shirts based on Kody's quotes and now Meri's Kody-bashing channel. On the one hand, might as well make a profit over the stupid and vile things that Kody says, while he lives in a multi-million dollar home with his pretty shy wife and tries to screw them out of whatever money he can. On the other hand, it feels like dirty money - these women will never be able to cut Kody out of their lives if they are marketing off of things he says. On the third hand, if Kody could just keep his horrible stupid thoughts to himself, his exes would have nothing to profit from and we all know that he can't do that, so - well played, OG's. 9 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8561062
Denize January 23 Share January 23 Kody probably thinks he is due part of their profits from Janelle's shirts and presumably monetized Salty Birches 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8562001
RoxiP January 23 Share January 23 I would love for Meri to find a great guy who shares (or at least appreciates) her quirky sense of humor and for her to live her best life with him. Best kind of revenge! 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8562268
AZChristian April 17 Share April 17 Saw a Facebook post today that shows that Meri has returned to the use of her maiden name. Nice picture of her included, and her comment is "The Brown is gone, even on her toof." 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8638167
ginger90 April 17 Share April 17 4 minutes ago, AZChristian said: Saw a Facebook post today that shows that Meri has returned to the use of her maiden name. Nice picture of her included, and her comment is "The Brown is gone, even on her toof." This isn’t the case actually. It’s an old rumor that started when Jenn and Meri were kidding around. Also, Meri’s maiden name is Barber. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8638170
AZChristian April 17 Share April 17 4 minutes ago, ginger90 said: This isn’t the case actually. It’s an old rumor that started when Jenn and Meri were kidding around. Also, Meri’s maiden name is Barber. But the great grandmother "Lizzie" was a Davenport. I haven't seen any court documents, but I think Davenport makes sense in that context. And she did have her brown tooth fixed, so the name change could be true as well. I'd have to care more than I actually do to do any research on this . . . just thought it was interesting. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8638176
Gramto6 April 17 Share April 17 32 minutes ago, AZChristian said: I'd have to care more than I actually do to do any research on this . . . just thought it was interesting. Yeah, I'm with you on that point. But it is a valid point, at least Davenport is a family name , even though not her exact maiden name. Were the Davenports also polygamists? Maybe she went back to before that time in the family line to be totally done with polygamy? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8638217
RoxiP April 17 Share April 17 I saw a picture of her recently (wish I could find it) where it is evident that she has lots a lot of weight (the caption was referring to her dropping pounds and Kody...LOL). She looks fabulous. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8638218
AZChristian April 17 Share April 17 4 minutes ago, RoxiP said: I saw a picture of her recently (wish I could find it) where it is evident that she has lots a lot of weight (the caption was referring to her dropping pounds and Kody...LOL). She looks fabulous. Yep. Between Kody and Robyn, Meri has lost over 200 pounds of unattractiveness. 7 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8638221
Absolom April 17 Share April 17 She was on a TV show or somewhere in a black sundress. Her arms and shoulders are thinner. She's lost that linebacker look. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8638457
RoxiP April 18 Share April 18 I watched her interview with Tamron Hall on YouTube last night - she did a good job of saying as much as she legally could within the constraints of her contract. I just wish she would wear a nice lipstick - she looks great but I think her makeup would be nicer if she just wore a little more color on her lips. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8639246
General Days April 22 Share April 22 There are all kinds of Sister Wives accounts (for the show and for each of the parents) on Facebook, that are just faker accounts. They post stuff that looks legit, and if you follow the verified accounts, the Facebook algorithm will show you these faker accounts from time to time. This is Meri's real Facebook account: https://www.facebook.com/therealmeribrown She mostly posts her live videos, inspirational memes, and other stuff related to her MLMs. I could have missed it, but scrolling back a bit, I do not see anything about reverting to her maiden name or to Davenport. You'll notice her name on her verified accounts is still "Meri Brown." When Christine added David's last name, she also made that change on her social media accounts. Her real Instagram account is here: https://www.instagram.com/therealmeribrown/?hl=en This is the real Sister Wives Facebook account: https://www.facebook.com/sisterwives 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8642604
Auntie Freeze May 1 Share May 1 Meri did a live with Li. I haven't watched it yet to see if she spilled anything much. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8650817
General Days May 2 Share May 2 Thanks, @Auntie Freeze! Forty minutes? I hope someone gives us the skinny. I'm not trying to avoid work *that* much. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8651287
Orcinus orca May 2 Share May 2 1 hour ago, General Days said: Thanks, @Auntie Freeze! Forty minutes? I hope someone gives us the skinny. I'm not trying to avoid work *that* much. I made it through 8 minutes. Blah. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8651330
General Days May 2 Share May 2 (edited) 1 minute ago, Orcinus orca said: I made it through 8 minutes. Blah. What did they talk about in those 8 minutes? EDIT: And who volunteers to watch the next 8? All we need is four more people to do 8 minute segments each. 😉 Edited May 2 by General Days 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8651332
ginger90 May 2 Share May 2 1 minute ago, Orcinus orca said: I made it through 8 minutes. Blah. I don’t think I even made it past the first minute. Maybe I’ll try again. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8651333
Orcinus orca May 2 Share May 2 (edited) 10 minutes ago, General Days said: What did they talk about in those 8 minutes? There was a lot of fumbling around, talking over each other, extended pauses, and generic back patting. Plus "I can't say because of the show" crap. I honestly don't remember, it was so bland. Edited May 2 by Orcinus orca additional thought 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8651341
Absolom May 2 Share May 2 2 hours ago, ginger90 said: I don’t think I even made it past the first minute. Maybe I’ll try again. Far too many people make and post useless videos these days. I've been trying not to open any recently. They're only rarely worth the time they drain. 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8651421
Gramto6 May 2 Share May 2 2 hours ago, Orcinus orca said: I made it through 8 minutes. Blah. I made it a little further, but not enough to say any more than the same Blah..... 1 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8651423
Auntie Freeze May 2 Share May 2 It was too disjointed for me. I think I got about halfway and learned nothing. 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8651573
precious pupp May 2 Share May 2 I tend not to watch this family's YouTube videos. Just the show is usually irritating enough for me. 3 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/343/#findComment-8651577
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