onatrek September 16, 2023 Share September 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Elizzikra said: I didn't watch the earlier seasons and I haven't read the book - neither of which (as usual) prevents me from posting a theory.I think that her secondary infertility also made plural marriage much more difficult for Meri. My understanding is that the entire point of plural marriage is for a man to have as many children as possible and Meri could not contribute to that beyond just one child. She would also be first wife but she wasn't a "top producer" and as she learned, being the only legal wife was also not permanent. <snip> Aside from not having more children being hard on its own, in the Brown family, it also would have meant Meri "needed" Kody less practically speaking in his eyes. She only had one child and could really manage everything, whereas the others just kept having new babies who needed more initial attention, plus (once onto kid #3 each) had multiple other kids pulling them in different directions so I'm sure they were seen as more "outnumbered" and just need hands on help more often. I'd think from just that sort of practical level that Meri likely had less time with Kody from pretty early on, which I'd imagine also didn't help make plural marriage any easier for her. She didn't get the same "share" of Kody (not that I really think he was likely much help, but I think he was more present as new babies came and she just never had that again) 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8143707
Scarlett45 September 16, 2023 Share September 16, 2023 3 hours ago, onatrek said: I'd think from just that sort of practical level that Meri likely had less time with Kody from pretty early on, which I'd imagine also didn't help make plural marriage any easier for her. She didn't get the same "share" of Kody (not that I really think he was likely much help, but I think he was more present as new babies came and she just never had that again) I can see what you’re saying, but I think Meri played into her home/wing being Kody’s “escape from chaos”. Pre-Robyn I think Meri met Kody’s emotional needs, Janelle let his partnership needs and Christine was his “worker bee”. Once Robyn came into the picture and he fell in love with her, he had no more use for Meri. Classic case of “alienation of affection”. 15 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8143724
Joan of Argh September 16, 2023 Share September 16, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, onatrek said: Aside from not having more children being hard on its own, in the Brown family, it also would have meant Meri "needed" Kody less practically speaking in his eyes. She only had one child and could really manage everything, whereas the others just kept having new babies who needed more initial attention, plus (once onto kid #3 each) had multiple other kids pulling them in different directions so I'm sure they were seen as more "outnumbered" and just need hands on help more often. I'd think from just that sort of practical level that Meri likely had less time with Kody from pretty early on, which I'd imagine also didn't help make plural marriage any easier for her. She didn't get the same "share" of Kody (not that I really think he was likely much help, but I think he was more present as new babies came and she just never had that again) I don’t agree, it’s well documented that Kody used Meri’s area of the house as his sanctuary to get away from all the chaos in Christine and janelles areas plus Meri regularly went along on business trips with Kody. he used every excuse to hang out at Meri’s even saying she had the best shower so he took all his showers there, which pissed off Christine. Kody was never daddy of the year helping out with the kids. when Truely was born he quickly turned ALL of his attention to his new wife Robyn. Edited September 16, 2023 by Joan of Argh 18 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8143841
Scarlett45 September 16, 2023 Share September 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Joan of Argh said: I don’t agree, it’s well documented that Kody used Meri’s area of the house as his sanctuary to get away from all the chaos in Christine and janelles areas plus Meri regularly went along on business trips with Kody. he used every excuse to hang out at Meri’s even saying she had the best shower so he took all his showers there, which pissed off Christine. Kody was never daddy of the year helping out with the kids. when Truely was born he quickly turned ALL of his attention to his new wife Robyn. This is true, I remember. And perhaps Meri hangs around because she remembers what it was like to be the legal wife and the favorite. I also think she has affection for Robyn’s kids, and that provides her with the community environment she longs for (I think Leon and Audrey are childfree). 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8144118
BnJJ September 16, 2023 Share September 16, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, onatrek said: Aside from not having more children being hard on its own, in the Brown family, it also would have meant Meri "needed" Kody less practically speaking in his eyes. She only had one child and could really manage everything, whereas the others just kept having new babies who needed more initial attention, plus (once onto kid #3 each) had multiple other kids pulling them in different directions so I'm sure they were seen as more "outnumbered" and just need hands on help more often. I'd think from just that sort of practical level that Meri likely had less time with Kody from pretty early on, which I'd imagine also didn't help make plural marriage any easier for her. She didn't get the same "share" of Kody (not that I really think he was likely much help, but I think he was more present as new babies came and she just never had that again) I don't think so. As recent as the first or second episode this season Christine said that his refusal to help her was what caused the real downturn in their marriage and she's talked about that many times over the course of the show. This refusal to help happened when they lived in Utah. His TH reply to her comments is always that she was asking for things that plural marriage just didn't allow for and that she could not have more of his time than any of the others. She specifically spoke of asking him to tuck their small kids in while she was working nights - after homeschooling, cooking, doing housework, and keeping ALL of the kids healthy and happy all day - and he refused to even go to the basement for a few minutes to tuck their kids in when a young Aspyn was babysitting if it was another wife's night. He's a total garbage human. Edited September 16, 2023 by BnJJ 13 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8144149
Elizzikra September 17, 2023 Share September 17, 2023 Quote Once Robyn came into the picture and he fell in love with her, he had no more use for Meri. Classic case of “alienation of affection”. Or really, for any of them except perhaps for the ones who brought in income... 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8144300
suomi September 19, 2023 Share September 19, 2023 When Meri's thread is due for a new title I could get behind "Peace out. Sayonara, bitches". 5 7 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8147908
BnJJ September 20, 2023 Share September 20, 2023 2 hours ago, suomi said: When Meri's thread is due for a new title I could get behind "Peace out. Sayonara, bitches". I like this! 6 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8148098
General Days September 20, 2023 Share September 20, 2023 I would support changing the name of this thread to "Peace Out. Sayonara, Bitches." right this instant. I love it. 7 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8148577
General Days September 20, 2023 Share September 20, 2023 (edited) Importing from the S18.E05 episode thread. 1 hour ago, MamaMax said: Meri, I take it back. Wet bar and 5 bedrooms for 2 people was just her insurance policy. If I gotta leave, I can sell this place and actually walk away with something perhaps. as for her big rental in Flagstaff, is she maybe air bnb-ing it LOL? Pay the rent out of "general fund" and then pocket the air bnb proceeds? Just spitballing! And 59 minutes ago, Rabbit Hutch said: Houses are assets, and Meri understood that she should have the same share in assets as the other wives, no matter the number of kids each wife had. Look at Janelle, she gave so much in money to the family via inheritanceand 401K funds, where I've heard that Robyn stated she was leaving her assets to her kids. No assets for you, Janelle! Where Meri gets my goat is going OVER the preset house budget in Vegas, private college for Leon, I BELIEVE a car for Leon, and the Flagstaff McMansion, aka the rennal. Although she most likely paid for that out of her Lulano grift. And 47 minutes ago, laurakaye said: I will always remember Meri blubbering about NEEDING! THAT! WETBAR! which for architectural reasons that escape me meant that a 5th (?) bedroom would also need to go into her house, and her mumbling that it would be her hobby room or some such nonsense. I feel like this gets lost a lot (and it's one of the reasons I would be all for changing Meri's thread name to, "Peace Out. Sayonara Bitches."). The Browns were selling products from the LIV International MLM back in those days. They did their demos at Meri's house. Later, Meri also did LulaRoe demos at her Vegas house and stored her inventory there. People like to recognize that Janelle worked for a lot of years, but since the move to Vegas, Meri is the Brown wife who brought in the most money, the most consistently (at least since they moved out of Lehi). MLM demos make up much of the "entertaining" that Meri did back then. I'm sure it was in part because she didn't have to work around the schedule (and just natural mess and disruption) of six children. She only had one mostly grown child. But also, I think Meri is more naturally organized and tidy than either Janelle or Christine (not calling them dirty or disorganized, just saying Meri strikes me as the most disciplined and orderly). I also think they stowed their inventory in some of Meri's extra rooms. Meri could only get that wet bar, if she got the larger house. They didn't just buy the lots of land. They bought from a builder/developer who would only sell them specific house plans (they might have been pre-fabs, but I'm not certain about that). The developers were making a more upscale development. The Browns couldn't have put a modest house (like a bungalow or casita) on one of those lots. I'd bet folding money that the reason Kody asked Christine if she had any budget left, if she could give it to Meri, wasn't out of some overwhelming fondness for Meri over Christine, at that point. It was because he knew Meri needed the space, in order to keep lining his pocket. And, in my opinion, one of the reason Meri got so teary about this, is that she wasn't allowed to talk about the MLM. She was frustrated that she couldn't justify her need/desire for the wetbar on camera, and she knew Janelle and Christine were going to make her look bad. Look, I love Janelle and Christine, but they were not only innocent victims all of those years. All of the wives played into Kody's headgames. Edited September 20, 2023 by General Days added omitted word "she" in 2nd to last paragraph 7 3 9 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8148639
Elizzikra September 20, 2023 Share September 20, 2023 1 hour ago, General Days said: I would support changing the name of this thread to "Peace Out. Sayonara, Bitches." right this instant. I love it. My favorite thread title has always been Kody’s because it’s just so spot on, but this one really gives it a run for its money. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8148649
laurakaye September 20, 2023 Share September 20, 2023 (edited) Great insight, @General Days. My impression was always that Meri wanted the wet bar for entertaining the family, which was an eye-roller, since no one usually stepped foot in Meri's house unless they absolutely had to. I forgot that she hosted the MLM parties, which is where "Sam" first met her, if I'm not mistaken. I guess in a family of shillers, someone has to have a large and clean space for snagging in more down-liners. It would also explain why we never saw her actually doing anything with the wet bar, since no one could talk about their MLMs on tv. Edited September 20, 2023 by laurakaye 4 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8148656
General Days September 20, 2023 Share September 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, laurakaye said: Great insight, @General Days. My impression was always that Meri wanted the wet bar for entertaining the family, which was an eye-roller, since no one usually stepped foot in Meri's house unless they absolutely had to. I forgot that she hosted the MLM parties, which is where "Sam" first met her, if I'm not mistaken. I guess in a family of shillers, someone has to have a large and clean space for snagging in more down-liners. It would also explain why we never saw her actually doing anything with the wet bar, since no one could talk about their MLMs on tv. I do think Meri hosted (and wanted to host) some of the family gatherings, too. I think it's likely she also didn't want a house so small that the common areas of it wouldn't accommodate the whole gang. And, in theory (less so, in practice), if/since they're all supposed to be recognized as mothers of all the kids in some respects, that seems fair to me. In S18.04 (or maybe 03), Meri talked about how she had always hosted Christmas Eve. When they did home church in Las Vegas, it seems to me that they did it in Meri's house, too. We know she made the Thanksgiving turkey, until Robyn took it over. But I think Kody took her side on the wet bar, and tried to get the money from Christine's budget, because the house model that included the wet bar was better for their MLM purposes. If it didn't benefit Kody, I can't see him trying to help her on that. Instead, I imagine he would have called her out for being selfish. 5 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8148694
Adiba September 20, 2023 Share September 20, 2023 42 minutes ago, laurakaye said: Great insight, @General Days. My impression was always that Meri wanted the wet bar for entertaining the family, which was an eye-roller, since no one usually stepped foot in Meri's house unless they absolutely had to. I forgot that she hosted the MLM parties, which is where "Sam" first met her, if I'm not mistaken. I guess in a family of shillers, someone has to have a large and clean space for snagging in more down-liners. It would also explain why we never saw her actually doing anything with the wet bar, since no one could talk about their MLMs on tv. Meri also used to do Christmas Eve for the family. Also, didn’t the catfish attend one of the Mlm parties? I think yet another reason that Meri got her way with the bigger house was that Kody also owned it because they were legally married at the time. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8148702
ginger90 September 20, 2023 Share September 20, 2023 Oh those houses…..they all had the same budget. The house sizes were within a few square feet of each other. There was no smaller house option. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8148712
Spisee Hotsos September 20, 2023 Share September 20, 2023 I think they were enamoured by the prospect of having four new homes in a small gated community so they could be near each other but maintain some independence from each other, and have their privacy. I think Meri getting an equal sized home was more of a problem for the viewers than their family. Within their family, she was the legal wife and always benefitting from the same budget as the others, even though she only had one child. It's the way they set up their finances at the time, and she was vocal about why she deserved it, and was determined to maintain the status quo in that regard. She once said something along the lines of planning to have 8 kids but only getting one, and how that wasn't her fault, and she shouldn't be punished financially for it. Having said that, I agree with what other posters have said about the benefit of Meri's house being used for their MLMs, but I think she might have been pushed to use her house that way by the others. I remember in the episode where they were selecting the options for each house, Kody was pleading with Meri to make up her mind on the finishings, and to consider regular features instead of upgraded ones. I specifically remember one exchange about French doors off the dining area, where Meri barked, "I'm not havin' a slider, Kody!" She was miserable, demanding, insufferable and completely exasperating in that episode. Kinda like Kody. 11 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8148789
Sandy W September 20, 2023 Share September 20, 2023 48 minutes ago, Spisee Hotsos said: I remember in the episode where they were selecting the options for each house, Kody was pleading with Meri to make up her mind on the finishings, and to consider regular features instead of upgraded ones. I specifically remember one exchange about French doors off the dining area, where Meri barked, "I'm not havin' a slider, Kody!" She was miserable, demanding, insufferable and completely exasperating in that episode. Kinda like Kody. Shortly after they moved in, TLC posted a virtual tour of each of the LV houses. Meri's laundry room featured front load washer and dryer on platforms and Christine with 6 kids had mismatched beaters that looked like they had been dragged from Lehi. Christine chose to invest in the facade of her house with a simulated turret. The part that got me was Kody asking Christine to kick in her under budget surplus to offset Meri's shortfall. Meri did end up paying for her overbudget items herself but it took amazing gall for Kody to even ask. 9 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8148848
General Days September 21, 2023 Share September 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Sandy W said: The part that got me was Kody asking Christine to kick in her under budget surplus to offset Meri's shortfall. Meri did end up paying for her overbudget items herself but it took amazing gall for Kody to even ask. It did take gall, except since they were using Meri's house for the family's business purposes, maybe it took less gall than we think. If four of us here were in business together, and we were all buying new houses in a cul-de-sac, but we were going keep our inventory in your house, and use your house as our business HQ, maybe it would make sense if we all chipped in a little for that part of it. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8149064
BnJJ September 21, 2023 Share September 21, 2023 (edited) Interesting. I stopped watching this show right after they moved to Vegas and then picked it up again last year and slowly caught up on all seasons. I had no idea that she hosted MLM parties. I was not around for the catfishing, either. MLM hosting aside, I agree that she should have comparable living conditions (and on the Vegas lots there was no option but to have comparable houses) but one wife struggling to feed her kids while two people live high on the hog will never sit right with me. Not when you purport yourself to be one big family with everything intertwined. I can still hear Meri's condescending "I'm sorry that you think I took something that you thought was yours, Janelle". Or similar. What a biotch. Yet Janelle gave up her inheritance and cashed in her retirement funds. Edited September 21, 2023 by BnJJ 17 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8149084
altopower September 21, 2023 Share September 21, 2023 50 minutes ago, General Days said: If four of us here were in business together, and we were all buying new houses in a cul-de-sac, but we were going keep our inventory in your house, and use your house as our business HQ, maybe it would make sense if we all chipped in a little for that part of it. Maybe. I don't like it, though, because otherwise the space would have sat empty for Meri to walk by and gloat about having. Strikes me as her contribution to the family at that point. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8149133
Elizzikra September 21, 2023 Share September 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, altopower said: Maybe. I don't like it, though, because otherwise the space would have sat empty for Meri to walk by and gloat about having. Strikes me as her contribution to the family at that point. I thought it was fine for Meri to have a comparable house. For them to be in the same neighborhood (which is what made most sense to me), they were going to have houses roughly the same size. And it seemed fair to me that they should have comparably priced houses as long term financial assets (though the Browns never seem to stay in any single house for long). What I didn't like was the insistence on equal budgets for food. That definitely should have been per capita, I thought. No way that it cost Meri the same amount to feed herself and Leon as it cost Janelle to feed herself and six kids (and what - five boys)? Also money for higher education; that, it seemed, should have been a more equal split amongst the kids as well as other things like cars, clothing, etc. 17 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8149148
Scarlett45 September 21, 2023 Share September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Elizzikra said: What I didn't like was the insistence on equal budgets for food. I agree. That was so petty. And when they were in Lehi living in a home Janelle used her inheritance to purchase it seemed extra petty. 16 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8149152
BnJJ September 21, 2023 Share September 21, 2023 (edited) Kody did insist that all kids receive equal funding for college, did he not? I distinctly recall Leon having a toddler's meltdown over it ('all I hear is you saying that I can't go to college') and Meri being all put out. That's not at all what Kody said. Edited September 21, 2023 by BnJJ 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8149193
suomi September 21, 2023 Share September 21, 2023 9 hours ago, Sandy W said: Meri's laundry room featured front load washer and dryer on platforms and Christine with 6 kids had mismatched beaters that looked like they had been dragged from Lehi. Christine did laundry for seven in her beater while Meri did laundry for one in her Mercedes. Sounds about right. I have zero sympathy for Meri, about anything. 12 8 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8149331
RazzleberryPie September 21, 2023 Share September 21, 2023 I wouldn’t die for any of these people, but I will stub my big toe on the hill that Meri getting equal family money for two humans as the Janelle, Christine and even ROBYN with 7 humans in a household is nothing but stubborn, selfish, jealous bullshit. Meri demanded budget for non existent kids while real, living kids who were under the same roof were struggling. That is nonsense and I have no clue why they agreed to it. We all get that Meri wanted more kids and I am sorry she did not have them. But to punish the other kids, not just the wives but the kids, was beyond vile. By the time they bought the Vegas McMansions and had show money, kody asking Christine to give some of her budget so Meri could have a wet bar - why didn’t they tel Meri to save some of her grocery money? This is the main reason I can never be team Meri. The other hill I will stub a toe on, is no matter how obnoxious and cruel Kody is, Meri cheated. She tried her best to leave with Catfish and was already gloating about how amazing he was. When she found out she was catfished, embarrassed, and lost her escape route, she stayed. Does not matter that Kody had four wives. That was their religion, they all agreed, they were all faithful to that relationship. Meri cheated with a con artist. She tried to get her child to cover for her. If Kody and Leon couldn’t forgive that, I understand. Meri made the rilly, rilly, desperately stupid mistakes of taking credit for bringing Robyn in and complying with giving her legal wife status. But she did those things with the intent of gaining favor with kody and holding something over being Janelle and Christine. It was not out of love, it was out of competition. Meri has always been awful and if relationships were destroyed, it’s her own fault. 10 11 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8149430
Scarlett45 September 21, 2023 Share September 21, 2023 1 hour ago, RazzleberryPie said: The other hill I will stub a toe on, is no matter how obnoxious and cruel Kody is, Meri cheated. She tried her best to leave with Catfish and was already gloating about how amazing he was. When she found out she was catfished, embarrassed, and lost her escape route, she stayed. Does not matter that Kody had four wives. That was their religion, they all agreed, they were all faithful to that relationship. Meri cheated with a con artist. She tried to get her child to cover for her. If Kody and Leon couldn’t forgive that, I understand. Meri made the rilly, rilly, desperately stupid mistakes of taking credit for bringing Robyn in and complying with giving her legal wife status. But she did those things with the intent of gaining favor with kody and holding something over being Janelle and Christine. It was not out of love, it was out of competition. Meri has always been awful and if relationships were destroyed, it’s her own fault. Cheating doesn’t grind my gears as much as the typical person. I totally understand if it’s not acceptable to someone and trust is broken, but to me it’s not “the worst” (outside of criminal behavior)- I think financially infidelity is way worst than sexual infidelity. However, if Kody couldn’t let it go, that’s his right, but it doesn’t give him the right to treat her like crap until the end of time. Either forgive and move forward, or end the relationship (outright, not “quiet quitting”). I understand why Leon was upset because Meri just didn’t listen to them (over and over again), but Leon loves their Mom and got over it with time. If Meri doesn’t have as many close relationships in the family as she would like it’s her own damn fault. It’s not Kody’s fault or the fault of Janelle/Christine but Meri’s. I think she knows she has to live with that, and I hope she’s building a community for herself for her own emotional well-being. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8149536
Scarlett45 September 22, 2023 Share September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Dustbunny said: I agree with you Scarlett, JMO but I think maybe the reason Kody didn't just tell Meri that it was over, no chance of it ever being fixed and she should just go away is because AS USUAL Robyn was behind it. She didn't want Meri cut loose or leaving because Meri was the only one who supported her and didn't think she was a snake so Robyn told Kody to basically string Meri along for her benefit. I could see this. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8150070
Adiba September 22, 2023 Share September 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Dustbunny said: I agree with you Scarlett, JMO but I think maybe the reason Kody didn't just tell Meri that it was over, no chance of it ever being fixed and she should just go away is because AS USUAL Robyn was behind it. She didn't want Meri cut loose or leaving because Meri was the only one who supported her and didn't think she was a snake so Robyn told Kody to basically string Meri along for her benefit. I also think protecting their “brand” and the narrative of the show came into play. Money means a lot to Kody— he told Suki that poverty was his biggest fear. He was willing to keep Meri around for as long as he could stand to protect the show —as well as potentially benefiting from some of Meri’s income that she could add to the family pot. 13 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8150234
Scarlett45 September 22, 2023 Share September 22, 2023 57 minutes ago, Adiba said: I also think protecting their “brand” and the narrative of the show came into play. Money means a lot to Kody— he told Suki that poverty was his biggest fear. He was willing to keep Meri around for as long as he could stand to protect the show —as well as potentially benefiting from some of Meri’s income that she could add to the family pot. I can see this as well. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8150295
Kellyee September 22, 2023 Share September 22, 2023 Quote I think yet another reason that Meri got her way with the bigger house was that Kody also owned it because they were legally married at the time. Meri advocates for herself, and she advocated for her kid. I have total respect for that. Meri didn't tell Christine or Janelle they had to give birth 6 times each. And at any point, Christine and Janelle could have gotten full time jobs and sued Kody for child support. Janelle didn't have to give Kody and Robyn the money from the sale of her Las Vegas house. She chose to give in and hand it over. Meri takes a harder stance with the money but gives in and grovels and begs when it comes to the relationship. I think she has some serious self esteem issues. 9 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8150620
Natalie68 September 22, 2023 Share September 22, 2023 17 hours ago, Dustbunny said: I agree with you Scarlett, JMO but I think maybe the reason Kody didn't just tell Meri that it was over, no chance of it ever being fixed and she should just go away is because AS USUAL Robyn was behind it. She didn't want Meri cut loose or leaving because Meri was the only one who supported her and didn't think she was a snake so Robyn told Kody to basically string Meri along for her benefit. Also it didn't hurt Meri (Janelle/Christine) were making $$ so baby didn't have to work. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8150655
Sandy W September 22, 2023 Share September 22, 2023 57 minutes ago, Kellyee said: Meri takes a harder stance with the money but gives in and grovels and begs when it comes to the relationship. I think she has some serious self esteem issues. There as nothing wrong with her self esteem when she was able to lord it over Janelle, Christine and their kids. She became cocksure of herself and miscalculated the impact bringing Robyn into the fold would have. "Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown" 11 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8150673
LilyD September 23, 2023 Share September 23, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 6:26 PM, Kellyee said: Meri advocates for herself, and she advocated for her kid. I have total respect for that. Meri didn't tell Christine or Janelle they had to give birth 6 times each. And at any point, Christine and Janelle could have gotten full time jobs and sued Kody for child support. Janelle had a fulltime job for a long time. Christine had a fulltime job raising 13 kids. Meri only ever worked parttime and had absolutely no qualms over taking (unpaid) time off, or resigning completely so she could accompany Kody on his many business trips (per their own book) She had by far, the best deal and all privileges. As for child support: I suppose that’s a tricky one… How many Brown kids have Kody officially registered as their dad on their birth certificates? For fear of prosecution, most fathers weren’t registered when kids were born in a polygamous relationship. Because of the tv show, they could probably prove his relationship easily in court, however, most kids were adults after the separation, so I doubt there was much left to claim… 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8151958
ginger90 September 23, 2023 Share September 23, 2023 $50 per person: 1 16 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8152020
xwordfanatik September 23, 2023 Share September 23, 2023 $50 for that? Does one at least get lunch? Meri rilly thinks she is all that, doesn't she? Who would make a trip just to walk through her (supposedly) haunted house? Unbelievable! 10 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8152041
Art Of Noiz September 24, 2023 Share September 24, 2023 6 hours ago, xwordfanatik said: $50 for that? Does one at least get lunch? Meri rilly thinks she is all that, doesn't she? Who would make a trip just to walk through her (supposedly) haunted house? Unbelievable! Just snacks..a Chilly Dill and a banana! 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8152214
Orcinus orca September 24, 2023 Share September 24, 2023 12 hours ago, xwordfanatik said: $50 for that? Does one at least get lunch? Well, for an additional $10, you get one of her World Famous RIce Krispie Treats. How long can it possibly take to tour that place, 10 minutes? It's not like you're touring the Vatican. And a whole lot less interesting. Ever the entrepreneur, taking advantage of the show. I bet visitors have to sign a NDA and agree not to ask questions about the fambly, 4 1 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8152268
TurtlePower September 24, 2023 Share September 24, 2023 On 9/15/2023 at 7:39 PM, Joan of Argh said: Ya I think the only reason Meri acted all GungHo for plural marriage was because Kody was interested and it pleases him, she was insanely jealous from the minute Janelle joined the family and hated sharing Kody so I’m never gonna believe she wanted it no matter what BS she wrote in their book. the only reason Meri was all happy about bringing Robyn onboard is because it made Kody happy to sneak around with Meri and plan the arrival of his new fuck toy. Meri expected Robyn would be her Buddy against the other two but Robyn had other plans and once Kody had Robyn he didn’t need his little sneaky pal Meri anymore so he kicked her jealous dumb ass to the curb. This. I remember reading about all this, how Meri and Kody snuck around and kept it from the other wives for a time. Meri thought this would be benefit her, but instead Kody fell in love and began playing favourites immediately. The family had issues, but I bet this is the one thing Meri wishes she hadn’t done. The arrival of Robyn doomed them all, as Robyn had her own malicious motives. Robyn never wanted sister wives as equals, she wanted sister wives to lord over and make jealous and MERI made it all happen. 10 3 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8152306
Scarlett45 September 24, 2023 Share September 24, 2023 17 hours ago, xwordfanatik said: $50 for that? Does one at least get lunch? Meri rilly thinks she is all that, doesn't she? Who would make a trip just to walk through her (supposedly) haunted house? Unbelievable! 5 hours ago, Orcinus orca said: Well, for an additional $10, you get one of her World Famous RIce Krispie Treats. How long can it possibly take to tour that place, 10 minutes? It's not like you're touring the Vatican. And a whole lot less interesting. Ever the entrepreneur, taking advantage of the show. I bet visitors have to sign a NDA and agree not to ask questions about the fambly, If Meri had actors or tour guides dressed up in theme, telling stories about the inn, while providing refreshments I could see it being worth $50, but you would have to get a PERFORMANCE out of it. But this is Meri we are talking about so my expectations aren’t high. But I’ve been to those type of events that were cool. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8152438
TurtlePower September 26, 2023 Share September 26, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 12:26 PM, Kellyee said: Meri advocates for herself, and she advocated for her kid. I have total respect for that. Meri didn't tell Christine or Janelle they had to give birth 6 times each. And at any point, Christine and Janelle could have gotten full time jobs and sued Kody for child support. Janelle didn't have to give Kody and Robyn the money from the sale of her Las Vegas house. She chose to give in and hand it over. Meri takes a harder stance with the money but gives in and grovels and begs when it comes to the relationship. I think she has some serious self esteem issues. I think so too and it’s even more evident with her editing the crap out of every photo she shares of herself. 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8154957
LilyD September 27, 2023 Share September 27, 2023 On 9/24/2023 at 1:55 AM, xwordfanatik said: $50 for that? Does one at least get lunch? Meri rilly thinks she is all that, doesn't she? Who would make a trip just to walk through her (supposedly) haunted house? Unbelievable! Yet I see a tremendous business opportunity here. Imagine a Halloween tour of the creepy mansion with horrible polygamy stories (which should be easy), psycho Kody lurking in one of the bedrooms, and Robyn the witch wailing in the basement. Sounds like fun to me! 3 1 1 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8156756
Teri313 September 28, 2023 Share September 28, 2023 If she could work the place across the street into the deal, I think she'd actually be on to something. 1 1 1 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8156873
AZChristian September 28, 2023 Share September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Teri313 said: If she could work the place across the street into the deal, I think she'd actually be on to something. Ah, yes. The lovely view from the front bedroom windows. 2 2 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8157393
ChiCricket September 28, 2023 Share September 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, AZChristian said: Ah, yes. The lovely view from the front bedroom windows. What is across the street? I think I used to know, but I forget. 😁 Edited September 28, 2023 by ChiCricket 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8157453
suomi September 28, 2023 Share September 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, ChiCricket said: What is across the street? I think I used to know, but I forget. 😁 The (nutty) prophet. 2 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8157466
Teri313 September 28, 2023 Share September 28, 2023 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8157565
Natalie68 September 29, 2023 Share September 29, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 4:25 PM, ginger90 said: $50 per person: I heard about this on YOUTUBE. I think this is a great use of that spot. The cost is reasonable, you get to see a Z list star and her croney and hello! Anything ghosts I am in. If it were closer I would give it a whirl. On 9/23/2023 at 4:55 PM, xwordfanatik said: $50 for that? Does one at least get lunch? Meri rilly thinks she is all that, doesn't she? Who would make a trip just to walk through her (supposedly) haunted house? Unbelievable! It is only a place I would visit if it were convenient. Like the largest ball of twine. But I am SOOOO down for a ghost tour. 3 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8159104
Orcinus orca September 29, 2023 Share September 29, 2023 What a crock. Fifty bucks for a load of made up BS. But lies are their MO in life so she's good at that. 4 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8159106
Sandy W September 29, 2023 Share September 29, 2023 45 minutes ago, Orcinus orca said: What a crock. Fifty bucks for a load of made up BS. But lies are their MO in life so she's good at that. The only haunting that goes on there is Meri pacing the halls chanting "Double double, toil and trouble" 1 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8159152
xwordfanatik September 29, 2023 Share September 29, 2023 Now, if Meri could have Sobbyn jump out of a closet, dressed as a witch, with a broomstick, it would at least be a sort of believable "haunted house." I still wouldn't throw fifty bucks at it, though. 😛 1 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3427-meri-brown-and-her-wet-bar-of-tears/page/333/#findComment-8159205
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