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TexasGal
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I think we can all agree it's rude to be late to a meal as a guest in someone's home. However, as a hostess it's beyond the pale to drill sergeant your guests downstairs and make them feel guilty abo

Babyfoot
Babyfoot

Hey guys, did you know that Annabelle was a friend of Alexander McQueen's?

princelina
princelina

Yeah I don't know what they're such bitches about - if I got to hang out in a beautiful castle AND smoke indoors whilst drinking I'd be in heaven!  And I don't even smoke anymore :)   While rude not

ScoobieDoobs

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Every time I look at Julie I just want to take her to a salon and get her a haircut, a deep conditioning and a highlight correction.

 

 

Oh, me too.  Julie's hair looked yellow, yellow, yellow.  None of the other blondes had yellow hair.  Just her.  Oh, Julie, hun, learn a thing or 2 from Juliet & stamp your feet, throw a tantrum, go "wah, wah, wah" & get Luke to color your hair properly -- er, in between coke runs for Caroline, that is.  Idk, to me, it's Sophie who looks more like the coke hound.

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RCharter

RCharter

Oh, me too.  Julie's hair looked yellow, yellow, yellow.  None of the other blondes had yellow hair.  Just her.  Oh, Julie, hun, learn a thing or 2 from Juliet & stamp your feet, throw a tantrum, go "wah, wah, wah" & get Luke to color your hair properly -- er, in between coke runs for Caroline, that is.  Idk, to me, it's Sophie who looks more like the coke hound.

yeah, Sophie was not feeling any pain on the dance floor.

 

Is that Caroline F's boyfriend?  He better have a giant heart and know exactly how to use it, because he is not cute.

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Bugfrey Von

Bugfrey Von

I can't believe it! Annabelle? Friends with Alexander McQueen? Who would've thunk it! God knows she really keeps that one under wraps.

I will tell you, Julie rub me the wrong way big-time this episode. Annabelle has continually stood up for her when all the other girls kind of pushed to the side, and Julie knew something was going on with her and chose to ignore it. Does she not remember that Caroline S made her feel like shit when she couldn't do her handstand? Now Caroline S is her spirit guide? Julie is "aw, shucks" and oh, so genuine when it's convenient for her. Cinderella in the attic? I'm sure. Caroline S is bored. She has failed her business, and need something to distract her, so she's using the demise of Annabel and Julie's friendship to entertain herself for a little while. She reminds me of a cat playing with a mouse before killing it. I can't believe how easy these folks are to manipulate.

The trophy room was fucking disgusting. Way to shoot a majestic animal like a lion or a jaguar in the face and stuff it. Way to go, Danish royal family. I also enjoyed the shrunken head is a trophy. Again, a delightful harkening back to a time where people were subhuman as compared to the majesty of the empire.

WHAT THE FUCK was Juliet wearing at the first dinner? It looks like she crapped all over her pants and borrowed her grandma's sweater to cover her ass.

Caroline F needs to cool it with that schoolmarm voice. No one gives a shit about your Danish ancestry, just be rich and beautiful and shut the fuck up. No one cares about your 10th great grandpa or red cabbage or whatever the fuck you're talking about today. I think that it was rude to be late for breakfast, but I have the solution. I have a cousin who is late to every single family event. I have told my mother on several occasions, let's just eat without her. She will never be late again if she has to eat a plate of stale mashed potatoes and gelatinous gravy. She didn't have to go through the whole rigmarole of berating everybody. Just let them eat cold eggs and they'll never be late again. Also, I feel like her visit to the tomb was a very very poor taste. Something so private should not be followed by cameras. I understand everyone grieves differently, but this is yet another one of Caroline F's attempts at being "just like us" and she fails miserably. Also, my God she loves the sound of her own voice. Every time that she started smashing her fork against the wine glass in order to make it another speech, I cringed.

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hoodooznoodooz

hoodooznoodooz

To me, it felt like Annabelle was expecting Julie to read her mind, which is totally unfair.

Yeah, I think Annabelle was under a lot of stress already. We are less reasonable when we are stressed out and emotional. Also, I kind of feel like Julie lacks the guile to play social hierarchy games. I can picture Juliet dropping Annabelle when realizing that CS is suddenly giving her a little more attention. But Julie strikes me as really innocent with no desire-- or skills -- to orchestrate such a scenario. Innocent and not very bright, sadly. Or, not cunning, as the other poster pointed out.

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HunterHunted

HunterHunted

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Hey guys, did you know that Annabelle was a friend of Alexander McQueen's?

I just spent some time googling because I was sure that the Alexander McQueen: Savage Beauty exhibit was at a London museum. It was. I looked at opening night gala pictures. Not one picture of Annabelle. Actually there are pictures, but Annabelle looks like a horror show and I don't think a single publisher used any of her pictures of when writing about the event. Pictures of Naomi, Kate, Posh and Becks, FKA Twigs (who I'm sure was probably still in high school when Lee killed himself), Sara Burton, Philip Treacy, Beth Ditto, and freaking Suzy Menkes (when you're using pictures of journalists over socialites like Annabelle, I think that says something).

Also Annabelle was "close" with McQueen during the period when his addiction and mental illness was out of control. There were people who tried to get him clean and he would disappear and rather party with Kate and Annabelle. I can't imagine what terrible information could be that article about McQueen. We know about his addiction. We know about his depression. Any new information is mostly an indictment of the living who saw a drowning man and did nothing to get him help.

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Mrs peel

Mrs peel

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On breakfast, maybe the late guests didn't care about having breakfast? If Caroline F wanted them to be on time, she should have gotten them before 10:30. The food was already cold by then.

Caroline S being still in pajamas at 10:30am reminded me of a prior episode where she calls the office to talk to her assistant. She says she is choosing an outfit and will be there "in a couple of hours."!! How long does it take to pick an outfit, and how far from her office is her home?? Yeah, she is NOT a real business person.

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Feline Queen

Feline Queen

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Expecting everyone for dinner is one thing, but not for breakfast. Caroline F should've either arranged a brunch closer to midday or set out a continental breakfast for her guests who deigned to roll out of bed before noon. She was a bad hostess for making such an issue of her supposedly rude guests. But then again, this is the same person who tossed everyone out of her house right in the middle of dessert. Nice manners, Baroness. 

 

I thought Annabelle was being very crass discussing getting shot in the bum by an Arab prince.  I find it hard to believe it's considered appropriate conversation amongst the nobilty that's just met each other. And way to sort of 'name drop'. She might've well have just prefaced that by saying: "Just so you know, I mix with the upper crust."

 

And Caroline F, the only reason we know your relationship with your family is *fragile* (translation: crappy) is because you keep on about it. Her dad and step-mother seemed like perfectly nice people - who were gracious to her friends.  

 

I'm not surprised by the trophy room. Disgusted, but not surprised. And once again, Julie didn't seem bothered by the killing for sport. Which is why I believe her aversion to going to the furriers was more about her inability to buy anything than it was in protest of skinning animals. If she could afford it, she would've gleefully wrapped herself in a dead animal to be just like her friends.

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TheFinalRose

TheFinalRose

Is this the article? Maybe I'm jaded by celebrity culture but it's not that shocking...http://www.dailymail...ty-cruelty.html

 

 

 

Since I don't know McQueen's secrets like Annabelle does, perhaps no one knew previously that McQueen said he was sexually abused? Or maybe, I dunno, the stabbing people with a scissors story was the one everyone was keeping a secret and now the DailyFail was outing it? Who knows? We never got a follow-up from Annabelle on it, but maybe it's coming.  

 

I thought Annabelle was being very crass discussing getting shot in the bum by an Arab prince.  I find it hard to believe it's considered appropriate conversation amongst the nobilty that's just met each other. And way to sort of 'name drop'. She might've well have just prefaced that by saying: "Just so you know, I mix with the upper crust."

 

 

I got the impression from Annabelle that she knew exactly what these old upper crust farts would enjoy after having hung with the British equivalent. Don't forget Prince Charles said he wanted to come back as a tampon.  

 

Why is Sophie on this show? Such a waste of space. She also looks stereotypically British.

 

 

I know, she's useless but at least she's a fun drunk. I enjoyed her ballroom "dancing."

 

So I looked up this Real HoWives of Cheshire. It's premiering Nov. 14, and basically the women all have implants, which made me realize how much I like the more natural figures of this LOL group.  But I'm still going to tivo it anyway.  

 

Every time I look at Julie I just want to take her to a salon and get her a haircut, a deep conditioning and a highlight correction.

 

 

Why does she think she needs to be blonde like that? She has zero coloring, I think she needs some contrast and would look better as a brunette. And stop with the part straight down the middle, too.

 

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RCharter

RCharter

Julie may be an unsupportive friend, but some of the lack of support came after her share of Annabelle's Helpful Hints for Being Better People lecture at the dinner table.  I believe the Hint for Julie was "Keep your mouth shut."  So maybe she's just doing that for Annabelle's benefit.

Julie recognized before they even got on the plane that Annabelle was acting off, so she knew before the dinner that her friend probably needed someone to talk to.  But she is busy spreading her butterfly wings or whatever and had no time for the one person who stood up for her.  From where I sat Annabelle's "helpful dinner hints" was her acting out because she was hurt and felt isolated.  Julie had a flight and all the time up until the dinner to sit down with Annabelle and ask her about what was going on.  

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Lady of nod

Lady of nod

Thank you RCharter!  ITA. Annabelle has been propping up the ridiculous Julie forever because of her longstanding friendship with Julie's husband, (which BTW shows her to be a true friend and a caring person). But Julie is so self absorbed that she can't reach out to Annabelle when she's clearly hurting? That's not a highly sensitive person.

This is my first post on these boards, and I gotta say I love this show. This is exactly what I want to see for my guilty pleasure, beautiful homes, castles, gardens, table settings - arm chair travel to places I'd otherwise not see. And some interesting women, not screeching harpies as on some of the RH franchises (tho I do watch NY and BH).

I find Annabelle to be the most interesting and complex woman on this show. I loved her easy way with the gentlemen before dinner. She was beautiful on the runway and I love her clothes. I also love that she holds things close, but isn't afraid to speak out either .I think she is real and doesn't play to the camera. She has lead an intriguing life. Is she obsessed with Macqueen? Yes, but I'm OK with that because it shows her soft core - and come on, I'm pretty obsessed with his amazing designs too! And there are people I've lost that after many years I still mourn - and would be upset if people continued to profit from disparaging them.

As for Caroline S - thought she was funny last year, this year not so much.

Caroline F? Yes she can be a bit tiresome but I do enjoy her and loved seeing her castle in Denmark.

Marissa and Juliet - snore.

So glad Caprice and Noel are gone.

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OnceSane

OnceSane

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So I looked up this Real HoWives of Cheshire. It's premiering Nov. 14, and basically the women all have implants, which made me realize how much I like the more natural figures of this LOL group.  But I'm still going to tivo it anyway.  

It's like watching Made in Chelsea (LoL) vs. The Only Way is Essex (RHoC).

And RHoC has its own forum here; the second season is winding up, but I'll pin the first season episode threads as they happen in the U.S.

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biakbiak

biakbiak

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How did everyone in the group know Annabelle was upset? She seemed to be wearing her typical sour expression and whining as usual about being McQueen's BFF. Julie was a crap friend, but I can see how she might have thought it was just business as usual.

But Julie herself mentioned that she could tell Annabelle was upset and not just in her talking heads but to the other ladies before they got to castle. Hell even Luke could tell she was in a mood before the dinner where she gave her "helpful advice," and even told Caroline S. that she shouldn't engage.

As for Annabelle' s advice to Julie about shutting up, I believe she was talking about her tendency to run and tell people what other people are saying about them. Something that Julie acknowledged was a problem when she was taking her bubble bath with Marissa and telling Marissa that everyone was still.talking about the cougar crap.

Where I thought Julie was weird is when Annabelle was actually telling them what was wrong and Caroline F and Sophie were actually being sympathetic and consoling and Julie sat their stonefaced.

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RCharter

RCharter

Thank you RCharter!  ITA. Annabelle has been propping up the ridiculous Julie forever because of her longstanding friendship with Julie's husband, (which BTW shows her to be a true friend and a caring person). But Julie is so self absorbed that she can't reach out to Annabelle when she's clearly hurting? That's not a highly sensitive person.

This is my first post on these boards, and I gotta say I love this show. This is exactly what I want to see for my guilty pleasure, beautiful homes, castles, gardens, table settings - arm chair travel to places I'd otherwise not see. And some interesting women, not screeching harpies as on some of the RH franchises (tho I do watch NY and BH).

I find Annabelle to be the most interesting and complex woman on this show. I loved her easy way with the gentlemen before dinner. She was beautiful on the runway and I love her clothes. I also love that she holds things close, but isn't afraid to speak out either .I think she is real and doesn't play to the camera. She has lead an intriguing life. Is she obsessed with Macqueen? Yes, but I'm OK with that because it shows her soft core - and come on, I'm pretty obsessed with his amazing designs too! And there are people I've lost that after many years I still mourn - and would be upset if people continued to profit from disparaging them.

As for Caroline S - thought she was funny last year, this year not so much.

Caroline F? Yes she can be a bit tiresome but I do enjoy her and loved seeing her castle in Denmark.

Marissa and Juliet - snore.

So glad Caprice and Noel are gone.

I agree, I hate to claim that I like someone on this show because in the next episode they do something that annoys me, but I think Annabelle is as you say.  She still has that stiff upper lip, but as CF said, she has a soft center.  Which is why I think she even took Julie in.  The rest of them couldn't care less about Julie.

 

I completely understand that her feelings toward McQueen annoys people, I do think its somewhat his manner of death that affects her too.  It sounds like no one knows exactly why he committed suicide and I think it would play on my mind a lot if a friend killed themselves.  And I don't know how many of those TH about McQueen are producer encouraged.

 

But, he is still a presence -- in fact I was reading that someone on Project Runway got slammed for basically copying McQueen.  So, he is still relevant and people talk about him....and it sounds like he is even more important in the London fashion world.

 

 

How did everyone in the group know Annabelle was upset? She seemed to be wearing her typical sour expression and whining as usual about being McQueen's BFF. Julie was a crap friend, but I can see how she might have thought it was just business as usual.

 

Julie mentioned it at the airport and I feel like Caroline S has said something in her TH about it.  Just as a person watching, though, there was that scene when they are all coming out of the hotel....Annabelle is sitting on a bench, and they all just sort of whisk by her while she is sitting alone on a bench.  I don't think anyone, including Julie, stopped to even say a word to her.  Annabelle may not be the warm and fuzzy type, but she generally seems at least somewhat engaged  I certainly don't think its Julie's job to babysit Annabelle...that's not what I'm saying.  But when I see my friend isolated, and I've noticed something is wrong I don't think my response would be to basically ignore her some more.  I would like to think I would make it a point to talk to her and try to help.

 

Julie knew something was wrong with Annabelle and instead of taking her aside and trying to figure it out she......talked shit about her on a bus so that Annabelle could hear it.  Thats just an awful thing to do to the only person who stood up for you.  To the first person who invited you to hang out in London society.  To the one person that came to you when you had a meltdown on NYE at a dumb comment about yoga.  As soon as Julie left, Annabelle was up and after her.  Not Caroline S, or Caroline F. who Julie wants to kiss butt with now.  Not even Juliet or Marissa.  Annabelle didn't have to put herself out there like that.  And at this point, I don't think she should have.  She should have just let Julie dissolve into a puddle of yellow tears. 

Where I thought Julie was weird is when Annabelle was actually telling them what was wrong and Caroline F and Sophie were actually being sympathetic and consoling and Julie sat their stonefaced.

I know right!!!!!  As a highly sensitive person, I thought Julie would have been super sympathetic and consoling.  But I guess she is only sensitive about yoga comments aimed at her, not about Annabelle hurting over the death of a close friend.

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BloggerAloud

BloggerAloud

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I adore this show for the house/castle porn and for the rich white lady problems that are never that particularly bleak and sometimes hilarious in how it shows off what cocoon these ladies live in. Like while the RHOC are duking it out over somebody maybe faking cancer, on this show, the ladies get into a tiff over being late to breakfast cooked by staff at a family mansion/castle. 

 

And more than anything else, I love Caroline Stansbury's black hat she wears while walking around Denmark because she relishes being a villainess and that hat just seems like the bitch character on like Model, INC. would've worn back in the 1990s.

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Alonzo Mosely FBI

Alonzo Mosely FBI

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Co sign to being very much over "my friend Alexander McQueen"... Annabelle seems very spoiled. She needs a lot of attention, she got it from the older two men at the formal dinner and was sure to let them know her mother had a title.

Gift library tanked and Caroline is sleeping till noon (if they'd let her) with caviar in her hair. I feel sorry for her employees who needed those jobs. And what a BITCH at the first dinner ramping up the argument in those beautiful surroundings as a guest. I cannot stand her.

Julie yoga is scary neurotic that green hair and the dark eyebrows I think she's teetering on the edge of something dark.

Sophie is either beautiful and stunning or drunk and sloppy no in between in appearance for some reason. It is one or the other.

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RCharter

RCharter

I adore this show for the house/castle porn and for the rich white lady problems that are never that particularly bleak and sometimes hilarious in how it shows off what cocoon these ladies live in. Like while the RHOC are duking it out over somebody maybe faking cancer, on this show, the ladies get into a tiff over being late to breakfast cooked by staff at a family mansion/castle. 

 

And more than anything else, I love Caroline Stansbury's black hat she wears while walking around Denmark because she relishes being a villainess and that hat just seems like the bitch character on like Model, INC. would've worn back in the 1990s.

I don't watch RHOC, but that cancer controversy is everywhere.  Its been going on for years now.  I don't understand why its an issue, just have the man's oncologist come on the show and explain his condition.  Easy peasy.  I don't think it would violate HIPPA if the patient gave consent for his doctor to speak about his condition publicly.

stcroix

stcroix

Since the cameras were there filming, I had to wonder if the main reason Caroline F was so terribly upset at the ladies for not showing up for breakfast was because one of her planned scenes wasn't able to be done.....

 

I also had to wonder if Marissa would have been so 'in love' with Caroline F if the group had been having dinner out at a restaurant and not with her best (and royal) friend's family.....  Marissa strikes me as the type to suck up whenever needed to always be one of the popular ones.  And look how Caroline F's father (or uncle) quickly responded.  Marissa's smile always looks like the cat that just got the cream.

 

And since I'm in such a mean mood... I wonder if the main reason Annabelle is so upset about McQueen's death is because it ended her time in the spotlight.  Thus her need to constantly drag anything McQueen into the conversation, to make herself feel relevant and remind the viewers that she is (was) a Somebody.  I mean, what else has she got but her grandmother? 

 

Ok, to get off my snarky stool and play nice--- I think Caroline F's family is obviously famous in Denmark.  Her mother was probably followed by paparazzi (in a much smaller fashion than Princess Di), but they were a big deal over there and so Caroline F is trying to show the viewers how relevant and what a Somebody SHE is.  (even if she's only followed by one pap)  This is her chance to be famous again.  I noticed a drawing on one of the bedroom walls of the island of St Croix in the Virgin Islands.  I used to live there. The Danes owned it hundreds of years ago, building huge old homes and churches much like what we saw on the show. Danish people still take chartered tours down there to see the old buildings and seem to be thrilled about it all.  From the way they act, I'd think they'd be pretty enthusiastic about their royal family.  All this to say that I think Caroline F grew up with an entitled attitude and I'm not surprised by her acting holier than thou around the other women and bossing them around some.  I was actually surprised last week when the other ladies (esp the American ones) were rolling their eyes at her when she was bringing them to see her home.  I'd love to have a personal guided tour of a royal home and landmarks by one of the actual royals!! 

 

Yea at this show coming back!! 

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UsernameFatigue

UsernameFatigue

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Good heavens these women have terrible manners. I didn't see anything wrong whatsoever with Caroline being annoyed that her guests couldn't be bothered to drag themselves out of bed for 10am breakfast. If they didn't want to be up (at mid morning no less) they should have told her the night before. Simple. To not say anything and then not show up is beyond rude. And it wasn't like it was just one or two, wasn't it the majority (without replaying I can't remember). And to top it off they can't be bothered to throw on a pair of jeans and top - they show up in their housecoats. I wouldn't do that at my friends or relatives homes, let alone in a castle.

 

And Annabelles chain smoking? Good thing she wasn't dining at my house as I would have sent her outside to smoke on the deck. Heck, I have friends who smoke that don't even smoke in their OWN homes, let alone someone elses. How rude to sit there and smoke while others are eating. The height of unclouthless to me. But what do I know, I'm just a middle class Canadian.

 

And what was with the guy wearing the baseball hat at the formal dinner with Caroline's relatives?  Another no no in my house and any regular dinner, let alone a formal one. Sheesh.

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RCharter

RCharter

Good heavens these women have terrible manners. I didn't see anything wrong whatsoever with Caroline being annoyed that her guests couldn't be bothered to drag themselves out of bed for 10am breakfast. If they didn't want to be up (at mid morning no less) they should have told her the night before. Simple. To not say anything and then not show up is beyond rude. And it wasn't like it was just one or two, wasn't it the majority (without replaying I can't remember). And to top it off they can't be bothered to throw on a pair of jeans and top - they show up in their housecoats. I wouldn't do that at my friends or relatives homes, let alone in a castle.

 

And Annabelles chain smoking? Good thing she wasn't dining at my house as I would have sent her outside to smoke on the deck. Heck, I have friends who smoke that don't even smoke in their OWN homes, let alone someone elses. How rude to sit there and smoke while others are eating. The height of unclouthless to me. But what do I know, I'm just a middle class Canadian.

 

And what was with the guy wearing the baseball hat at the formal dinner with Caroline's relatives?  Another no no in my house and any regular dinner, let alone a formal one. Sheesh.

I think Caroline F was smoking inside the house as well during the royal dinner.  My feeling is that smoking in certain parts of Europe is far more acceptable than it is in the US/Canada.

 

It seems like only Marissa and Annabelle made it to breakfast on time.  But I know I've been late to things and I didn't know the night before that I was going to be late or else I would have begged off.  I can sort of understand coming down in their robes/pj's because at that point CF was so mad they were better off just getting downstairs ASAP.  I think that is the only time I can remember seeing CS at a table with her hair not perfectly in place.

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Lady of nod

Lady of nod

I was watching reruns from Season 1 last night - saved on my DVR, and couldn't help notice the difference in Julie. First of all, her hair wasn't bright yellow, she was made up nicely and not nearly as frenetic as this season. Her main focus was coddling the phony mess that was Caprice. Gag..... and no mention of the troubles at Mapperton. I know she needs this income to save the family manor (no one else works?) but maybe she should go back to being a friend of. Btw  I've never seen someone who seriously practices yoga be so stressed out.

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RCharter

RCharter

I was watching reruns from Season 1 last night - saved on my DVR, and couldn't help notice the difference in Julie. First of all, her hair wasn't bright yellow, she was made up nicely and not nearly as frenetic as this season. Her main focus was coddling the phony mess that was Caprice. Gag..... and no mention of the troubles at Mapperton. I know she needs this income to save the family manor (no one else works?) but maybe she should go back to being a friend of. Btw  I've never seen someone who seriously practices yoga be so stressed out.

Yeah, Julie was likable in small doses.  And even at the start of the season I liked her.  But than she started to act purposefully stupid ("what a MILF?"  "A mother I'd like to....what....what.....what does the f mean?"), and than with the overacting ("mother I'd like to......oh my god! oh my god! where are my smelling salts!!??"), and now the stink of victim ingrate who abandons her friends to get in good with the cool kids.

 

It makes me wonder how much trouble Mapperton is really in.  The rest of her family doesn't seem much worried at all, but maybe thats all the stiff upper lip.  But I can't see why they would be okay with her making it look like the place is about to be repossessed if it wasn't true.

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UsernameFatigue

UsernameFatigue

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I think Caroline F was smoking inside the house as well during the royal dinner.  My feeling is that smoking in certain parts of Europe is far more acceptable than it is in the US/Canada.

It seems like only Marissa and Annabelle made it to breakfast on time.  But I know I've been late to things and I didn't know the night before that I was going to be late or else I would have begged off.  I can sort of understand coming down in their robes/pj's because at that point CF was so mad they were better off just getting downstairs ASAP.  I think that is the only time I can remember seeing CS at a table with her hair not perfectly in place.

 

Actually now that you mention it I did rewind as I was wondering who else was smoking. I forgot that it was Caroline F. Even if my hostess was smoking at the dinner table I would want to smack someone who was chain smoking. I detest the smell of smoke (not even getting into second hand smoke issues) and that would totally ruin my appetite to have smoke wafting over my food.

 

As far as being 'late' for breakfast, Juliet was 'late' for dinner the night before. Being ready but held up for a few minutes isn't a big deal. Five of I think the seven guests weren't even dressed a half hour after breaky started, and at least one was still asleep. That isn't late, that is having no intention of going at all. IMO of course. Didn't Caroline S. pull a similar stunt in an earlier epi? Maybe New Year's day? I recall her being in bed another time when others were expecting her for breakfast.

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TheFinalRose

TheFinalRose

I was in London yesterday. Drove past Bumpkin.. That is all

 

 

But will you be there in three weeks to look in the windows at Marissa's traditional Thanksgiving Dinner with all her fabulous friends and family?  

 

I am definitely going to eat at Bumpkin the next time I go to London (whenever that will be, and if it is still there by then.)  Mapperton, on the other hand, I will take a pass at.  But, I would seek out those JUBS and buy a box, just to taste them.  I can always throw them in the Thames if they are awful.  

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JennyMominFL

JennyMominFL

But will you be there in three weeks to look in the windows at Marissa's traditional Thanksgiving Dinner with all her fabulous friends and family?  

 

I am definitely going to eat at Bumpkin the next time I go to London (whenever that will be, and if it is still there by then.)  Mapperton, on the other hand, I will take a pass at.  But, I would seek out those JUBS and buy a box, just to taste them.  I can always throw them in the Thames if they are awful.  

I'm coming back on the 16th and my British friend will be in America for Thanksgiving. I forgot about JUBS. I will be on the lookout. Maybe next week I can get to Bumpkin. I'll take one for the team.

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ichbin

ichbin

It doesn't appear that we will meet the Baroness's sister.  I guess she really isn't a famewhore, like Caroline F is.  She doesn't have much of an online presence either.

 

 

There were other people at the dinner who were not introduced, like one youngish guy who was wearing a baseball cap.  Is it possible she was one of them? 

RCharter

RCharter

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I don't think so because Marissa would have most likely just naturally looked at her when she mentioned her in her speech as she did when she mentioned Caroline F' s father and stepmother.

If CF's sister was there she would have definitely gotten a Marissa tongue bath the way CF did.  It would have been a 25 minute toast.  I don't hate Marissa, but she has an agenda and thats that.

 

 

But will you be there in three weeks to look in the windows at Marissa's traditional Thanksgiving Dinner with all her fabulous friends and family?  

 

I am definitely going to eat at Bumpkin the next time I go to London (whenever that will be, and if it is still there by then.)  Mapperton, on the other hand, I will take a pass at.  But, I would seek out those JUBS and buy a box, just to taste them.  I can always throw them in the Thames if they are awful.  

I would try JUB's and I would likely order them online just to try them.  I'm almost positive they are disgusting, but the snark would be so sweet.

Ratings for this ep were horrible -- 675 thou.  That's cancellation level.  I agree with comments above this show might fare better in the summer.

Do you know if those ratings factor in people like me who just buy it on VUDU/Amazon?  I watch everything online because its so much easier than trying to figure out TV/cable boxes/satellite dishes.

 

I absolutely think this is a show that would do better in the summer.  Its a fun show, but its never going to get to the plate throwing, punching in the face, fake cancer drama that the more popular reality shows are going to have.  And I think it takes a while to build allegiances to certain characters.  This is lighter, more fun, and a good way to take a summer vacation without having to leave the house :)

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ScoobieDoobs

ScoobieDoobs

Do you know if those ratings factor in people like me who just buy it on VUDU/Amazon?  I watch everything online because its so much easier than trying to figure out TV/cable boxes/satellite dishes.

 

No, it's based on initial viewing, which advertisers generally base buying decisions on (for buying ad time) & networks mostly (not always, but mostly) base decisions on renewal vs. cancellation.  Ratings might have taken a nosedive because of the time change.  It didn't have a strong lead-in, as it had before (being after OC), and maybe viewers didn't know about the time change.  

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HunterHunted

HunterHunted

Honestly, being wealthy without being famous would be a dream (to me, at least). Caroline F seemed to enjoy her relative anonymity in the UK. I guess I don't see why she'd want to be in the spotlight even more. But I'm also not on a reality show, lol.

Do not let this chick fool you. She loves the limelight. This is her fourth reality show: she had one where she renovated her castle with her ex-husband, The Baroness Moves In, Denmark's Next Top Model, and this show.

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izabella

izabella

Every time I look at Julie I just want to take her to a salon and get her a haircut, a deep conditioning and a highlight correction.

 

 

I want to stick her in a vat of moisturizer, and feed her some olive oil and Omega-3 fats.  Her hair and skin look all dried out, and she always looks so unhealthy as well as unkempt.  I cannot understand how someone so focused on health and fitness looks like hell all the time, with one foot in the grave.

 

I don't really enjoy Annabelle, but I do appreciate that she is perfectly willing and able to tell Caroline S. to fuck off.  No one else is.

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Babyfoot

Babyfoot

This has me perplexed: when they got to Valdemar's Castle, and Luke, Sophie and Caroline S plopped themselves down on an awesome bed in a glorious bedroom, Luke was rubbing Caroline's ass. Why? I mean, I know he has to kiss it as part of his job description but .....

Next time I spend the weekend in a European castle I'm bringing my makeup artist/ass-kisser/ass-rubber/paid best friend/valet/whipping boy/baggage handler with me.

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