Episode Discussion: TFGH

[dubbel zout]

That's exactly what happened, @Perkie. I didn't find anything weird about it.

[Darklazr]

*Snort* Here comes a sexual abuse / D.I.D redemption arc for poor widdle Franco and Drew has been dumped into the mix.  

I hate Franco.

Jason's return from the dead is horse shit at this point and listening to Sam whine on and on is just as lame.

I applaud Elizabeth for walking away from Franco, but she's stuck with his whiny ass, because RoHo is under contract.

[LexieLily]

They can have Sam say it all she wants, now, but it's coming months too late and she hasn't been acting at all like Jason coming back was the best thing to ever happen to her.

[seasons]

I love Roxie, the lizard bearded dragon. Love how Finn does the scenes with her on his chest.

IRL, you should be able to get papers certifying a bearded dragon as a therapy pet.

Like the Finn/Alexis thing. Kind of lighthearted. I like Finn. Liked him on OLTL. 

has he shown his claddagh tattoo on GH yet? Or was that just a fake on OLTL?

[Linny]

Man, between Franco's snivelling breakdown and Sam's "my HEART is what hurts!" declaration to Jason, somehow the dude in handcuffs with a lizard bearded dragon on his chest looks downright calm and mature. 

This was a waste of an episode, IMO. Franco's trauma over a decades-old event (in which no one died or was even seriously injured) means nothing to me, especially since he's never shown that much concern for the victims of any of his other crimes. And if Sam's going to talk to Jason about making decisions and insinuating she might leave Drew, she should choose to have that conversation somewhere other than her husband's office right in front of their wedding photo. They're really losing me with Sam, I don't like how she's suddenly acting like what she has with Drew is insubstantial and that she was faking her happiness with him.

[RedheadZombie]

I can't believe neither man in Sam's life has told her what a freaking moron she was for risking her life for a generic dog tag.  Not the dog tag of a father who's tragically died in Vietnam.  Not even the dog tag of a beloved dog who's crossed the rainbow bridge.  She risked leaving her two children motherless for a generic dog tag that has never even be worn by a dog who isn't even hers.  That Danny is a sap, and as much as I hate to say it, the little kid seriously creeps me out.

[YaddaYadda]

This is coming from someone who has always loved Sam and JaSam at one point, but this is some straight up bullshit. There has not been any indication of Sam wanting to get back to Jason since he came back, she has stood by her decision of wanting to be with Drew, insisted that they should remarry ASAP, so what changed?

I'm saying she doesn't love Jason, or cares about him, but it wasn't played as though she was in love with him. So forgive me while I roll my eyes.

I don't hate the dynamic between Alexis and Finn. They're kind of entertaining actually. 

Drew blowing off Sam was not cool, but then she's chatting about her heart hurting, so whatever, I guess?

Franco can go away and take smarmy Jim with him. Why isn't this guy dead yet?

[LillyB]

I hate the Nina almost as much as I hate Snarly.

[RedheadZombie]

9 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

I'm rooting for anything that saves us from the chemistry void that is Michael/Nelle

It seems pretty obvious that Nelle will be gone after the baby is born.  I fear they're setting up a whodunit with Nelle murdered, and Michael and his new girlfriend as suspects.  Or, it will "test" their new splendid love when Francesca has suspicions about Michael.  They never set up a love interest for Michael organically, and this one even had a musical cue that a lightbulb of love went off above Michael's head.  Only a fool deliberately begins a new relationship when his last is not yet completely severed, and is an utter mess.  I wish, for a change, that the new woman would tell Michael to clean up the fallout first, and then give her a call.  Instead she trots up to him, in front of her mother, and gives him her number.  Did he even ask her for it?  It's just so inappropriate for a nurse on the job to be hitting on visitors.

12 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

This is coming from someone who has always loved Sam and JaSam at one point, but this is some straight up bullshit. There has not been any indication of Sam wanting to get back to Jason since he came back, she has stood by her decision of wanting to be with Drew, insisted that they should remarry ASAP, so what changed?

I'm saying she doesn't love Jason, or cares about him, but it wasn't played as though she was in love with him. So forgive me while I roll my eyes.

I don't hate the dynamic between Alexis and Finn. They're kind of entertaining actually. 

Drew blowing off Sam was not cool, but then she's chatting about her heart hurting, so whatever, I guess?

Franco can go away and take smarmy Jim with him. Why isn't this guy dead yet?

I agree with you but Jason's women tend to have epiphanies in emergent situations.  Wasn't that the scenario where Liz blurted out that Jason was her baby daddy?

[TeeVee329]

I didn't even watch today and I need a day off from Franco.  It's been every day for over a week, right?

Did we find out why Detective Chase and Dr. Michael Easton are estranged?

Edited March 14, 2018 by TeeVee329

[ulkis]

20 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

This is coming from someone who has always loved Sam and JaSam at one point, but this is some straight up bullshit. There has not been any indication of Sam wanting to get back to Jason since he came back, she has stood by her decision of wanting to be with Drew, insisted that they should remarry ASAP, so what changed?

It made no sense that that was the way she reacted to Jason coming back though, imo. I'm not saying she would have dumped Drew on the spot but she would have been way more emotional about the whole thing.

59 minutes ago, Linny said:

Man, between Franco's snivelling breakdown and Sam's "my HEART is what hurts!" declaration to Jason

That line was so groan worthy. It's corny enough on its own but then you could see the writer transitioning to it a mile away.

I read a recap and Franco's wailing wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be. It was no crying in the stairwell scene at least.

I like that Chase actually dresses properly.

They are styling TB horribly.

5 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I didn't even watch today and I need a day off from Franco.  It's been every day for over a week, right?

Did we find out why Detective Chase and Dr. Michael Easton are estranged?

 

It was only that they never really knew each other. Finn's dad got remarried and had Chase, and Finn went away to college when Chase was a little kid. (Does that mean Finn is only about 15 years older than Chase? Okay, Frank.)

Edited March 14, 2018 by ulkis

[TeeVee329]

4 minutes ago, ulkis said:

It was only that they never really knew each other. Finn's dad got remarried and had Chase, and Finn went away to college when Chase was a little kid. (Does that mean Finn is only about 15 years older than Chase? Okay, Frank.)

So Patrick and Matt, except Patrick didn't know Matt existed.  How zzzzzzzz.

1 hour ago, Linny said:

Sam's "my HEART is what hurts!" declaration to Jason

It's no "I have a hole in my heart the size of the moon!", but it's up there.

[RedheadZombie]

God help me, but I loved when Drew came bursting in to rescue sobbing Franco.  I thought it was hot, and I'm now joining the club of "Drew deserves better than Sam".  Drew is such a better fit for BM and I'm liking everything about him except when he's sneering and being dismissive of people.  It's a nice change from the killer boy scout.

[Pingaponga]

Did anyone explain why brothers Finn and Chase both like being called by their surname? And why said surnames are different?

I'm still sick of Franco, bored of the earthquake/fracking/natural gas under Charles Street story line, and confused as hell as to how anyone knew to tell Faison that Peter/Heinrich was his son.  Even if Valentin followed Anna to the midwife and knew she gave birth to a baby, how did he know the baby was Faison's?  Anna didn't tell anyone. Did he follow her on her escapade to sleep with Faison and watch that as well? Blech.

[YaddaYadda]

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

It made no sense that that was the way she reacted to Jason coming back though, imo. I'm not saying she would have dumped Drew on the spot but she would have been way more emotional about the whole thing.

I don't disagree. I just feel like the ship has sailed because of all these "detours". And it's not like they played down her recognizing him, because she knew it was him who fished her out, but it's been months now.

Edited March 14, 2018 by YaddaYadda

[Oracle42]

2 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

There has not been any indication of Sam wanting to get back to Jason since he came back, she has stood by her decision of wanting to be with Drew, insisted that they should remarry ASAP, so what changed?

I  don't understand why they keep doing this. They did the same thing with Patrick and it's not at all true to character. At minimum, she'd be conflicted - not least because the writers refused to acknowledge the differences between Drew/Jason until about a week before Jason showed up.  I have no problem with the idea of Sam still loving Jason but being "in love" with Drew, except that that isn't a story that the writers ever wrote. And I have been complaining about that since Drew "remembered everything" and the writers decided to skip the opportunity to write a love story for a recast on a soap opera.  And that lack meant that as soon as Jason showed up, I started wondering about how much of Drew's love for Sam was Jason's memory of that love, and how much of Sam's love for Drew was wanting Jason back. 

I also don't understand why Carly was the only person asking those questions.
 

23 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I don't disagree. I just feel like the ship has sailed because of all these "detours". And it's not like they played down her recognizing him, because she knew it was him who fished her out, but it's been months now.

It's weird and it's bad soap; even if the writers want Sam/Drew as endgame, ignoring the inherent drama in the situation is a bizarre choice.

Edited March 14, 2018 by Oracle42

[ulkis]

30 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I don't disagree. I just feel like the ship has sailed because of all these "detours". And it's not like they played down her recognizing him, because she knew it was him who fished her out, but it's been months now.

I wonder if they were getting feedback about it.

[ulkis]

2 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

It seems pretty obvious that Nelle will be gone after the baby is born. 

I've been pretty certain that she'll be out one way or the other since she, gasp, tattled on man landers, but this is some awful pacing.

That picture was obviously Bryan Craig not in character as Morgan yesterday, no way was Morgan posing for the camera in a pastel/light blue scarf.

Edited March 14, 2018 by ulkis

[Ladyrain]

5 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Finn's dad got remarried and had Chase,

I already deleted the episode so I can't go back and check, but I thought it was Finn's mother who remarried and had Chase.  Otherwise, wouldn't their last names be the same?   But on this show, who knows.  -  And am I the only one who finds Chase seriously hunky?  And he definitely is a better actor than RP, formerly the place holder of Dante's sidekick.  I'm old enough to be his.........whatever, but I am loving him on screen.  I just don't want Maxie with him, because her cop guys don't fare so well in Port Charles.

[nilyank]

16 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

I already deleted the episode so I can't go back and check, but I thought it was Finn's mother who remarried and had Chase.  Otherwise, wouldn't their last names be the same?   But on this show, who knows.  -  And am I the only one who finds Chase seriously hunky?  And he definitely is a better actor than RP, formerly the place holder of Dante's sidekick.  I'm old enough to be his.........whatever, but I am loving him on screen.  I just don't want Maxie with him, because her cop guys don't fare so well in Port Charles.

Finn said mom died and dad remarried and had Chase. So unless, Finn took his mom's maiden name as a form of protest, it makes no sense why the brothers have different last names when they share the same father and he was married to their mothers.

[dubbel zout]

6 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

7 hours ago, Linny said:

Sam's "my HEART is what hurts!" declaration to Jason

It's no "I have a hole in my heart the size of the moon!", but it's up there.

If there's a bigger groaner of a line than Nora's, I don't know what it is.

4 hours ago, ulkis said:

I wonder if they were getting feedback about it.

This situation is classic soap. I don't get what they'd need feedback on. Anyway, there's going to be at least one unhappy fan base no matter whom Sam ends up with.

I'm so sick of the Jason/Sam theme song.

LOL at the Franco flashbacks. They didn't even try to make Greg Evigan look different. I think he was even wearing the same shirt.

[TVbitch]

Last week when Sam made her tearful and TOTALLY OUT OF THE FUCKING BLUE admission of love to Jason, I had the distinct feeling the KM was really crying over having to say those lines and knowing she was gonna be moved away from BM. She has looked even more dour (if that is possible) ever since. 

[TeeVee329]

38 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Finn said mom died and dad remarried and had Chase. So unless, Finn took his mom's maiden name as a form of protest, it makes no sense why the brothers have different last names when they share the same father and he was married to their mothers.

Clearly it was to trick us for the whole six days Detective Chase was on-screen before they revealed their brotherly connection, so lame.  Maybe we'll learn more when we meet their dad, played by Michael E. Knight.

And Chase really likes his last name considering he likes to be called by it.  As does Dr. Michael Easton with his, I guess.

Edited March 15, 2018 by TeeVee329

[ulkis]

37 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

This situation is classic soap.

I meant on Sam's pretty blase reaction to Jason being back.

[P3pp3rb1rd]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

I'm so sick of the Jason/Sam theme song.

Sooooooo cheesy. [Dink dink dink on the piano...]

[Asp Burger]

Anyone who finds Chase hunky walking around the PCPD all buttoned up should head on over to the GH Facebook. They put up a post-workout photo of him with his trainer or something. Let's just say anyone who thought the sole bad thing about Nathan being gone was that there would be a male eye-candy deficit can breathe a sigh of relief.  

Of course, a lot of them already hate him there, because he was so "cold" and "heartless" when that proud, beautiful man was pleading for his father's release.  After everything Sonny has done for that town!  

Anyway, I like the Hamilton & Harrison relationship that is being established. They work. And I like the idea of a really by-the-book, straight-arrow cop.  Hey, my favorite in L.A. Confidential was Guy Pearce's character. That's probably a personality test right there, whether you're an Exley, Vincennes, or White partisan.  

I'll say this for Roger Howarth. He is a fearless actor. He can coast through with the smart-aleck stuff that defines his characters 80 percent of the time, but when the time comes, he commits to shit with no vanity. (Often, "shit" is a good description of the material, but you know what I mean. ) 

At the risk of taking it to a gross place, when Francesca saw Michael talking to a woman she had never seen before, it was bold and tactless for her to give him the digits. We know they're mother and son, but the age difference alone doesn't rule out that Carly was his romantic partner.  

I'm so sick of the poignant piano/cello cue for Sam and Jason.  It's the only thing worse than their dialogue. 

Edited March 15, 2018 by Asp Burger

[Cheyanne11]

1 hour ago, Asp Burger said:

I'm so sick of the poignant piano/cello cue for Sam and Jason.  It's the only thing worse than their dialogue. 

It's insomnia-inducing--much like the couple.

[NutmegsDad]

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

3 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

I'm so sick of the poignant piano/cello cue for Sam and Jason.  It's the only thing worse than their dialogue. 

 

It's insomnia-inducing--much like the couple.

It's "You can FF this scene" cue music.

[dubbel zout]

3 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

At the risk of taking it to a gross place, when Francesca saw Michael talking to a woman she had never seen before, it was bold and tactless for her to give him the digits. 

I don't quite get why this is such a problem for people. (Aside from the gross unprofessionalism of a hospital employee hitting on a visitor, that is, but that's a given on a TV show.) Michael was obviously—to me, at least—interested in Francesco and not at all offended that she gave him her number. Women are allowed to take make the first move if they so choose.

[NutmegsDad]

3 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

Anyway, I like the Hamilton & Harrison relationship that is being established. They work. And I like the idea of a really by-the-book, straight-arrow cop.

I like the By the book type who has to Google Spyderfinder "Who the fuck is this person?" (Except for Sonny, who is the Most Powerful Alleged Mobster on the Eastern Seaboard in New York.)

What I say "FOR FUCK'S SAKE" is that H&H are half-brothers. Why tie him with the insufferable doctor (and remember he was always like that, when he was sneaking around trying to cure himself).

I'm truly disappointed (and I waited for a Fucking PSA before venting) that the "Gender Identification/Bullying/Be Who You Are" plotline was just a Sad Trombone that Nelle's STOLEN dress was ruined, and to get Joss and Oscular to kiss. Rankin/Bass had better cartoon villians that Generic Bigoted Freak-Yelling Paint-Loaded Balloon-Throwing Teen.

Sonny taking a Sleeping Avery from Ava when, previously, Sonny gas-smiled gleefully that Ava couldn't take Avery, was table-flipping and barware smashing.

So.... a reformed psycho with the penchant to exact revenge (Caged Rapist Tom) and a Navy SEAL with the memories of a cold-stone hit man against two generic very large Minion Mountains. That should be no problem.....

 

(End of Show Previews Teaser)

That's right. They're no AnnnnnnnnnnnnndSonnyandJason.....

[amaranta]

12 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Maybe we'll learn more when we meet their dad, played by Michael E. Knight.

Still have remnants from my long ago fan girl crush for MEK. He's one of the few from the old days I would like to see again.

[LexieLily]

Damn, Maxie. I understand that you are angry, hurt, and need someone to blame for Nathan's death, and Lulu should have done better to acknowledge her part in it, but what good is a restraining order going to accomplish? Lulu is not a danger to you or your child and even through her grief Maxie should know that. It doesn't make sense that Maxie holds Lulu solely responsible because she wrote the article but yet doesn't blame Peter at all for encouraging Lulu to write it or for publishing it.

If the only requirement for an RO is that "she/he played a part in my significant other/child/ex's/lovers' death and is upsetting me by being in my presence" no one in Port Charles would be allowed within 100 feet of anyone else.

Edited March 15, 2018 by LexieLily

[TeeVee329]

So Liz is already ready to forgive Franco and is frantically searching for him?  Barf.  And she knows something's wrong because he's not all up in her face ignoring her wishes for space?  Double barf.  And notice she had to get the buck-up talk from Kim, who doesn't know anything about Franco's baby stealing, mother stabbing, SERIAL KILLING past.

I liked and was somewhat relieved by how they were playing Ned today, that he was trying to expose BJ and the Bear versus covering anything up.

Was also very here for Maxie dragging Lulu, who was making it about herself, lots of "I" statements.

Edited March 15, 2018 by TeeVee329

[seasons]

KM sounds more breathy than usual today. Almost like she is struggling to finish a sentence.

RH and F'S/LWB need to ditch the 90's guy haircut.

Alexis would do well to ditch that tired hairdo and the dated highlights. 

[truthaboutluv]

On 3/14/2018 at 6:05 PM, RedheadZombie said:

Drew is such a better fit for BM and I'm liking everything about him except when he's sneering and being dismissive of people.

Yeah but isn't he mostly just dismissive to the annoying trio of Carly, Sonny and Jason? Is that really a bad thing?

 

On 3/13/2018 at 11:08 PM, ciarra said:

Won't Liz inherit Drew after Sam dumps him for Jason?

I may be wrong but I think they will test Drew and Kim first. If Billy and Tamara don't work, I can see them circling him back to Liz. 

 

On 3/14/2018 at 3:52 PM, LexieLily said:

They can have Sam say it all she wants, now, but it's coming months too late and she hasn't been acting at all like Jason coming back was the best thing to ever happen to her.

This. Like I said months ago, I had no investment in this because I don't even watch this mess or any soap opera regularly but I figured there was no way they were going to bring Burton back for Jason to ";lose". I mean hello, Jason never loses. So it was inevitable to me that they'd eventually put him and Sam back together. But it's why I was surprised at how seemingly unaffected Monaco was playing her scenes. As I said then, I don't know who or what was to blame - poor writing, poor direction, poor acting on Kelly's part, etc. But whatever it was, I just didn't buy Sam pining for Jason and forcing herself to love Drew. Because if so, give Sam an award because she sure as hell sold those feelings for Drew.

 

On 3/14/2018 at 4:42 PM, YaddaYadda said:

This is coming from someone who has always loved Sam and JaSam at one point, but this is some straight up bullshit. There has not been any indication of Sam wanting to get back to Jason since he came back, she has stood by her decision of wanting to be with Drew, insisted that they should remarry ASAP, so what changed?

I'm saying she doesn't love Jason, or cares about him, but it wasn't played as though she was in love with him. So forgive me while I roll my eyes.

It's just more proof of how poorly soap operas are written these days. Nothing is really slowly built and developed anymore and everything is rushed to get to the next big plot point. As others have noted, the story did have great soapy potential because you essentially have three people stuck in a crappy situation that is through no fault of their own. And either way, it's awful for either party. It's awful for Jason to have lost years of his life and come back to find his wife in love with someone else who she thought was him. Drew still has no idea who he was because his life was scrubbed from his memory and he only has the old memories of some guy who he now really can't stand. Sam thought she had her not-dead husband back and built a life with said guy who turned out not to be said not-dead husband. It's messy and angsty and the best kind of soap drama when soap operas used to be the shit. 

But instead, the writers have just limply dragged this story with Kelly Monaco for months playing Sam as someone who has no interest in being with old Jason, old Jason still doing what he always did, which is be passively "noble" while being Sonny and Carly's errand boy and Drew sort of in a limbo as I don't think the writers truly know where they want to go with the character. Because soap cliche 101 would be to make him the "bad guy" and thereby opening up the door for Jason and Sam, while of course keeping them as the good guys. But I don't think they want to go the bad guy route with Drew, maybe it's because they don't want to risk losing Billy or who the hell knows. 

All I know is I'm ready for them to have Sam and Jason back together so their shippers can stop whinging all over social media and attacking Kelly on her social media every time she posts something of her and Billy together. Because many have gotten it into their heads that it's the reason Sam and Jason wasn't immediately reunited, because Kelly doesn't want the Drew and Sam pairing broken up. 

Edited March 15, 2018 by truthaboutluv

[Linny]

It's so unfair that even with Drew and Franco trapped in some abandoned building, I still have to suffer through Franco talking with his mouth full. This storyline is taking forever to reach its conclusion, and I don't know why. It has met its goal (establishing Franco as a victim of some sort of abuse from Jim Harvey and not a wannabe kid murderer) and now there's Liz's worry setting the stage for a Friz reconciliation, so these scenes of Drew and Franco bantering in the dark are unbelievably boring and worthless.

Maxie's continued anger with Lulu feels justified given how little time has passed since Nathan's death, and since Lulu still seems incapable of recognizing the depth of Maxie's loss. She really needs to stop whining about the article and her journalism career, stop making justifications and apologies, and just deal with the fact that she played a significant role in the devastation of her best friend's life. And yeah, Peter's culpable too, but he's not Maxie's oldest and closest friend, there was never any expectation for him to look after Maxie like there was with Lulu.

LOL at Alexis bluntly asking Sam if she slept with Jason. If there's anyone who knows all about bad decisions made from a complicated love, it's Alexis, and as Sam's mother she's earned the right to speak to her so frankly.

[ulkis]

Perhaps Maxie and Lulu could have a fight next time at the salon while Lulu gets a cut and Maxie gets a shampooing.

I hate handkerchiefs around the neck.

[ulkis]

33 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

All I know is I'm ready for them to have Sam and Jason back together so their shippers can stop whinging all over social media and attacking Kelly on her social media every time she posts something of her and Billy together. Because many have gotten it into their heads that it's the reason Sam and Jason was immediately reunited, because Kelly doesn't want the Drew and Sam pairing broken up. 

I think this is true too, honestly. Of course if I were a fan and wanted them back together, I don't think tweeting nasty things at KM would be the best strategy for warming her back up to the pairing.

[RedheadZombie]

38 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I think this is true too, honestly. Of course if I were a fan and wanted them back together, I don't think tweeting nasty things at KM would be the best strategy for warming her back up to the pairing.

I agree with you.  Unless Kelly somehow was never told she was supposed to be silently yearning for Jason, some of this is on her.  KeMo is low energy and plays Sam as now very passive, but she's been in the business forever, and she knows how to play conflicted, emote, and make chemistry.  She shouldn't have to be sleeping with someone to do this - she never did in the past.  I wonder if she is a little resentful of the money doled out to bring back the guy they'd fired.  I'm sure she's also protective of BM and worried about his job safety. 

I also think Kelly, like many actors in long term roles, has become a little complacent due to boredom with Sam.  It's gotta be challenging to do the same thing year in and year out. And unlike other tv shows, she does it multiple times a week. 

[truthaboutluv]

4 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

I wonder if she is a little resentful of the money doled out to bring back the guy they'd fired.

Burton was fired? I thought he left. Or do you mean his being fired from Young & The Restless?

[RedheadZombie]

12 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

Burton was fired? I thought he left. Or do you mean his being fired from Young & The Restless?

I thought he was fired last time. The fans certainly (wrongly) felt the new show runners were starting reduce the mob importance and domination of the show.  

But if he quit, I'm sure it was still irritating to many that sunk so much money into him that some actors were fired and others saw their time reduced.   I was a little excited for the first week that he came back.  The rest has been a big fail for me.  in fact it would have been for more interesting if Kim came on the scene and the started the mystery off finding out about Drew. 

Even AG got bored with Luke and insisted on a new character.  Personally I couldn't stand that character and how he and his whiny sister ate the show, but it proves that they will give in to these requests of actors they're luring back. 

[Asp Burger]

The way I understood it, talks broke down because he had conditions the show was unwilling to meet. He was moving his family to Tennessee at the time. But then it was only a short time later that Y&R got him back to daytime. I think Y&R offered him a generous deal as far as time off, which he couldn't get from GH circa 2012. 

Old interview:  

TV Guide Magazine: It did seem like the new GH honchos weren't trying all that hard to keep you. Do you think your exit fit better with their story plans and their interest in cutting back on all the mob activity?

Burton: I don't feel it had anything to do with story. The flying back and forth was the sticking point. If I was still living in California, I'd still be with GH. It was too difficult production-wise to work things out and I understand that. I know how the business works and I'm not going to get mad over it. I don't want a show to break its back for one actor. It's not right. Besides, it really felt like it was time for me to go. I was gracious. They were gracious. There are no hard feelings with me and [exec producer] Frank Valentini.

Around the time he left, Ron (or someone) wrote a petty (if, to me, slightly amusing) little scene in which Dante and Lulu are interviewing a potential surrogate who's full of herself and makes demands of what D&L have to do to secure her services. It sounded as if the script had taken contract-negotiation statements of Steve's and put them in "Stephanie's" mouth.

Edited March 16, 2018 by Asp Burger

[TeeVee329]

Siiigh, a Jason-free GH.  What a time to be alive that was. 

[Cheyanne11]

1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

Siiigh, a Jason-free GH.  What a time to be alive that was. 

[Auntie Velvet]

On no other show would the writers feel a need to have a scene that's basically -- "Are you sitting down? Big news! Turns out I love my current husband and my formerly-presumed-dead-husband! Weird, right?" I'm just mystified that this is playing as some big revelation on Sam's part, when "in real life" it would be totally reasonable to assume that a man you loved at the time of his "death" would still invoke strong feelings when he comes back. 

I think Nurse Hoochie Mama is a dead rival walking. She'll probably be the first murder we actually see Nelle commit. 

I wish I knew whether Drew's bug was a recording device or just a listening device, and whether it's still safely in his car. (I wish I know why I cared, too.) But I kept thinking about it while Harvey was all "Who they gonna believe, Quartermaine? You, a respected businessman with a long history of philanthropy in this town, or me, who's admitting everything cartoonishly while standing 2 feet away from this here bug!" 

[sas616]

1 hour ago, Auntie Velvet said:

On no other show would the writers feel a need to have a scene that's basically -- "Are you sitting down? Big news! Turns out I love my current husband and my formerly-presumed-dead-husband! Weird, right?" I'm just mystified that this is playing as some big revelation on Sam's part, when "in real life" it would be totally reasonable to assume that a man you loved at the time of his "death" would still invoke strong feelings when he comes back. 

I think Nurse Hoochie Mama is a dead rival walking. She'll probably be the first murder we actually see Nelle commit. 

I wish I knew whether Drew's bug was a recording device or just a listening device, and whether it's still safely in his car. (I wish I know why I cared, too.) But I kept thinking about it while Harvey was all "Who they gonna believe, Quartermaine? You, a respected businessman with a long history of philanthropy in this town, or me, who's admitting everything cartoonishly while standing 2 feet away from this here bug!" 

I forgot all about that bug Franco planted (and it just happened like yesterday).  I kept wondering if Ned was wired .  I thought Ned implied they would do something to make Harvey show his true colors, and couldn't figure out why he spilled the beans that he knew what Harvey was up to.  

[dubbel zout]

Lulu decides to be a reporter. Lulu quits being a reporter. Lulu decides to be a reporter, Lulu quits being a reporter. Lulu decides to be a reporter. Gah.

1 hour ago, Auntie Velvet said:

But I kept thinking about it while Harvey was all "Who they gonna believe, Quartermaine? You, a respected businessman with a long history of philanthropy in this town, or me, who's admitting everything cartoonishly while standing 2 feet away from this here bug!" 

I still can't believe Ned fell for Greg Evigan's spiel hook, line, and sinker before the election. And he finally realizes Greg Evigan was the one who leaked the story about Alexis on the day of the election. DUH. What a dope.

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[ulkis]

Unfortunately there are no smart characters on the show anymore.

[Cheyanne11]

31 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Lulu decides to be a reporter. Lulu quits being a reporter. Lulu decides to be a reporter, Lulu quits being a reporter. Lulu decides to be a reporter. Gah.

 

And now she just has to stick with it (and be, like, the best reporter ever!) or "none of this was worth it."  Yeah, any of the times I've been complicit in a best friend's husband getting killed I always thought "well, I've always got my career to fall back on."

Shut up, Lulu.

[ulkis]

I don't think she meant that she had her career to fall back on. I think she meant that her and Maxie's friendship being severed would be for nothing. Whether she actually means it is another argument, heh.

I think it looks weird that Maxie is so chummy with Peter when she knows that he didn't pull the article. Yeah, he said it wouldn't make a difference, but not pulling it should still look shady to her. I guess the "OH GOSH HE'S NATHAN'S BROTHER" anvil wouldn't hit as hard otherwise.

Edited March 16, 2018 by ulkis