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I saw Tamra on WWHL.  Wow.  Her breasts are too close together and she has excessive pulling on the left one.  The implants are too large for her body/the opening.  They look painful.  I usually don't care but I couldn't stop staring at them.  I think I had nightmares.  

 

Not only does it sound like Ragey Ryan is going to walk away from his family, Tamra is encouraging him to do so.  What a sleazy pair they are.  she probably thinks her precious angel is too good for anyone who would have him when the real issue is why in the heck would anyone want him.

Omg, yes! When Tamra didn't even try to discourage Ryan from bolting it was despicable. She's just trash. I saw wwhl too and no way would I be flaunting that botch job. Eek!!

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I believe that Vicki clarified that in last night's episode (or last week) when she said that 'yes' she did come to Shannon to tell her about Brooks and Shannon offered help in the way of referring Brooks to a holistic specialist. She also said that Brooks didn't want to go in the direction that Shannon was recommending and wanted to follow the recommendations of his own oncology team. This is Brooks' cancer, not Vicki's and no matter who Vickie goes to for help or suggestions, the bottom line is that this is Brooks battle, not Vicki's even though she's only trying to help.

 

Just to be clear about the 'no cancer' statement by the psychic, it was Scott Cruz who said "I have a wishy-washy thing on that ... the cancer issue … I just don't see it."  To me that says, that Cruz didn't commit either way about cancer, he was completely ambiguous. It was Tamra that jumped to the conclusion by saying "He doesn't have cancer?" to which Cruz replied ""It's very possible,"

 

Yes, it was very possible because Cruz wouldn't know Brooks Ayers from a pumpkin and knows nothing about his medical history. So the entire story about 'Brooks doesn't have cancer!!' was completely and entirely fabricated and contrived in order to start trouble and as usual, Tamra Judge is right there to push it along and make it all larger than life.

Yes, Vicki claims that Shannon "offered" help and she also said that she did NOT "ask" for help from her. Shannon disputes this outright, she said that Vicki "asked" for her help. But, as you said, it is Brooks decision and his alone but why not just say that to Shannon instead of coming up with excuses like 2 flat tires and not rescheduling the appointment?

 

Tamra didn't just "push it along" though. She started the whole shebang of disbelief, yet not a harsh word from Vicki about it to her. Why?

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I believe that Vicki clarified that in last night's episode (or last week) when she said that 'yes' she did come to Shannon to tell her about Brooks and Shannon offered help in the way of referring Brooks to a holistic specialist. She also said that Brooks didn't want to go in the direction that Shannon was recommending and wanted to follow the recommendations of his own oncology team. This is Brooks' cancer, not Vicki's and no matter who Vickie goes to for help or suggestions, the bottom line is that this is Brooks battle, not Vicki's even though she's only trying to help.

 

I'm confused about Shannon referring Brooks to a holistic specialist.  It sounds like something she would do but she clearly said that she managed to get Brooks an appointment with a well known doctor who specializes in lymphoma.  That's when she added that Brooks didn't make that appointment because he got two flat tires.

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My father had NHL, like Brooks, although Dad was 80. It was in a lung, abnd although I went to Dr appts with him and his first chemo he pretty much breezed through it and took himself for the remaining chemo. Fortunately he went into remission.

However, the effects of the chemo got him 6 years later.

If Brooks has NLH (several times) imo it is his business and his decision to make as far as treatment. Just like women say they have the right to make their decisions for their bodys - men do as well.

I really don't think it was Brooks decision to make HIS cancer the premise of this crappy season. And how dare those housewives that barrage him about it!

Satan Andy as well as Vicki should have stopped this from the get-go.

Actually, according to the blog Vicki wrote last week or the week before, Brooks did NOT want to talk about his cancer at all on the show. She talked him into changing his mind! Sooooo, the blame of this "does he/doesn't he" lies with, IMO, Vicki because she made it her main storyline this season.

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I really don't think it was Brooks decision to make HIS cancer the premise of this crappy season. And how dare those housewives that barrage him about it!

Satan Andy as well as Vicki should have stopped this from the get-go.

 

Not only did Vicki NOT try to stop this story line, rumor has it that Vicki talked Brooks into going along with it.

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I'm confused about Shannon referring Brooks to a holistic specialist.  It sounds like something she would do but she clearly said that she managed to get Brooks an appointment with a well known doctor who specializes in lymphoma.  That's when she added that Brooks didn't make that appointment because he got two flat tires.

This well known Dr. Shannon referred him too uses both Western and Eastern medicines to treat Lymphoma and that is 1 of the reasons Shannon is now questioning Brooks.

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Not only did Vicki NOT try to stop this story line, rumor has it that Vicki talked Brooks into going along with it.

LOL, That's NOT a rumor though, it is the truth from Vicki herself! She made that claim in her blog from last week or the week before. IMO, she wanted that as her storyline this season...1, to get support/sympathy for Brooks/her relationship from viewers and 2, she had no other storyline to offer the show at all and desperately need 1.

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The conversation with Ryan was disturbing. Sounds like he's gonna bail on his family. It's gonna be a shit show next season when this goes down. I feel so bad for those kids.

Agree....that conversation had me shaking my head....Ryan is as immature as an embryo....as he said: 'things were great when we first got together...but then the kids, bla, bla, bla'....so Ryan and baby momma make another kid together???  That makes sense!!!  I will never understand why couples go ahead and make a baby (and some cases, babies) when they cannot commit to being married...to me, making a baby is a much more involved commitment than marriage...that kid is there 24/7....needs diapers, clothes, food, housing, etc, etc....vs. marriage which can be reversed by divorce....and you never have to see your divorced spouse again....can't divorce a kid...Ryan and baby momma are sterling examples of f'ing idiots....

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As far as Brooks being Vicky's story line....she could have changed that earlier, imo.

She announced his cancer right off the bat and there was no turning back because production ran with it. Vicki has more experience with how production loves to twist things and make fun of the most personal information, more than anyone else on any of the HW shows. She put her need for a storyline before Brooks need/desire for privacy/respect.

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I can't get over the way Meghan is so blasé about what she did... she is quite open about chasing down Brooks' ex who commented on a blog.... open about the lengths she went to contact said ex... open about calling the Dr's office... open about pretending to have cancer for that phone call. Meghan is happy to discuss all of her bedazzled headband wearing super hero activity so openly. No uncomfortableness about her actions when being confronted by Brooks and Vicki!

It's her attitude about what she did, rather than why, that gets to me. Blows. My. Mind.

(ps. Dear Grammar Police, I know what an ellipsis is, and what it means, and when one should use it. I, however, use it with reckless abandon in my own way. Maybe I'm more like Meghan than I realise? Oh dear.)

She kept repeating the story about contacting the ex-girlfriend with all kinds of details highlighting her investigative skills, only to end each time with "she wouldn't talk about it." Not only that, the girlfriend contacted Brooks to tell him about it! So not only did the new Sherlock obtain no usable information by this ploy, she blew her cover and couldn't even "surprise" Brooks with her nothingburger of an expose ("zay." no accents on my phone.)

This is where the fun stupid comes in, because she goes on her rant anyway. I really feel for that husband.

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I saw Tamra on WWHL.  Wow.  Her breasts are too close together and she has excessive pulling on the left one.  The implants are too large for her body/the opening.  They look painful.  I usually don't care but I couldn't stop staring at them.  I think I had nightmares.  

 

Not only does it sound like Ragey Ryan is going to walk away from his family, Tamra is encouraging him to do so.  What a sleazy pair they are.  she probably thinks her precious angel is too good for anyone who would have him when the real issue is why in the heck would anyone want him.  

But didn't Tamra thank God or Jesus for her new jugs on the show?  'Jesus Jugs Tamra!!'

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Sarah looked beautiful at Shannon's party. Way out of Ryan's league.  She may have multiple baby daddies but being with Ryan isn't 'marrying up'.  And now he's finally figured out that quickly hooking up with (and then impregnating) someone who already had three kids (and apparently can't master the concept of birth control) probably wasn't a good idea? Every one in that situation is a moron to some degree.  The true losers are all the kids who'll be forever bounced around while their idiot parents play a game of family roulette.   

 

I thought Tamra giving appropriate clothing advice to her mom was laughable considering some of the outfits she parades around in. Although I did like the white top with the ripped jeans she was wearing during that scene.

 

Vicki - the Queen of the Screaming Meltdowns - has a nerve saying someone else needs to act age appropriately. FAMILY VAN and I've Never Had A Threesome.     

 

Even if it's comedy gold, saying "You're waving at no one" is still a douchebag move on Jim's part. He may be putting Meghan in her place with some of the things he says, but it doesn't make him less of an asshole just because people find it amusing.  No matter what, at the end of the day she's still his wife and his lack of respect is horrifying. No wonder he's on marriage number three. 

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I love that Meghan is the only one that we know *for sure* "pretended" to have cancer.

 

Shannon seems much more like a neurotic Virgo (I'm one too, so no offense meant!) than a fiery Aries, whereas Vicky shows the worse traits of Aries.

 

About Tamra and Ryan, how is marriage such a weighty decision and yet bringing another *human being* into the world is no biggie?!

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During the confrontation on the couch, I don't think Jim, Jim Edmonds was inspecting his nails.  I'm pretty sure he was looking at his wedding band thinking, "why the HELL am I still wearing this thing???"

 

Meghan's behavior is truly abhorrent, even for this franchise.  I would be really surprised if she got asked back next season.  

 

 

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Are those ear band thingy's Heather was wearing all the OC rage now?  Thought it was so annoying how she kept that one side of her hair behind her ear to show them off.  At one point, I saw her purposely tuck her hair back behind her ear.  

 

 

They are the big thing in costume jewelry everywhere!  I was just in some wholesale costume jewelry shops in NY, and they were flying off the shelves!

 

Of course, I'm sure Heather's were real diamonds, and not just crystals and rhinestones that I saw, LOL!  :-)

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I think she's trying to sell those hideous things. I'm surprised Heather has more than one piercing per ear. For someone who is worse than Hyacinth Bucket, it seems like a very unconventional choice for her and it's one that she doesn't pull off very well. I've never seen anyone, even people who are into body modification, wear three chunky, sparkly earrings in one ear. It looks stupid.

 

The ones I saw today did not need multiple piercings.  They were a post-type earring, with the extension going up the ear, with a small cuff-type thing to attach to the upper outer part of the ear.  

 

I actually think they were kind of cute, but Heather's were a little overkill!!  

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I can't believe Ryan's baby mama is uprooting her three kids and everything they know to be closer to Tamra.  I know, I know... the woman has bad judgment but that is really spectacularly bad judgment. 

 

I think of Vicki and Brooks like Phoebe Tyler and Langley Wallingford on All My Children.  Sure, she knows he's a con man but she doesn't care.  He makes her happy.  The end.  Why everybody is out to expose Brooks is beyond me. 

 

Jim doesn't respect Megan one iota.  I can see why.

 

Oooh....two of my all time favorite soap characters!!   

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It's ironic that we don't know if Brooks has ever faked cancer, but we do know that Meghan has. 

She pretended to have cancer, to prove that someone else is pretending to have cancer.

Love this JennyMominFL . ;-) Now this is funny but oh so true about skanky Meghan!

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I thought it was also pretty embarrassing the way the other housewives seemed to be cheering her on at the party when she told them that the ex told Brooks about what she'd done.

Yep...that's the truth. They should all be embarrassed for listening to Meghan without telling her to SHUT UP! What a bunch of toadies!

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So what's worse, Meg calling a doctor to find out if he treats cancer patients or Vicki basically forcing Brooks' cancer to be a storyline for RHOC? 

 

I still don't think that Meg calling the doctor's office a big deal.  What was stupid was her saying that she had cancer, etc.  She could have just asked if the doctor treated patients with NHL.  Contacting the ex girlfriend was just stupid.  At least she gets that now...as stated in her blog.  But Meg knows the show and as others have suggested, she was trying to be the viewers. 

 

The bigger deal for me was that Vicki used Brook's cancer for a storyline since she did state that Brook's didn't want it.  This is 'your man', the guy you supposedly love.  But that is Vicki.  Because it is all about Vicki and what she 'needs'. 

 

Interesting that Tamra stated on WWHL that Brooks broke up with Vicki.  Was Brooks finally humiliated enough about him being forced to extend his cancer for the sake of Vicki's orange?  IMO, Vicki was not being the Vicki we're used to when dealing with a crisis.  She just wasn't all 'that' about the cancer most of the season.  And then we have Vicki contradicting herself about being with him during chemo treatments and doctors' appointments.  It just didn't seem 'right'. 

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I know! He was a nice looking guy (yet a loser then - didn't appreciate the help of Simon).

What does he think his scruffy face and hat are meant to portray? At 29? Let alone lack of a job.

And now he doesn't really want to marry.

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What Heather said was Shannon said she was a horrible human being and Tamra said, "no she didn't."  Again I question why Tamra had to carry any tales back to anyone-there was really nothing horrible said.  Shannon basically said it violates girl code.  I wonder if Shannon knew that Allison had moved back to St, Louis?  I think that would have negated any mention of her.

 

Thank you.  I couldn't recall exactly what Tamra said that was untrue (the horrible human part), but I do remember Heather confronting Shannon with this and Tamra denying she said anything and then Heather saying something like, "yes you did!" to Tamra.  Good on Heather for going to the source (Shannon) in this case instead of taking what Tamra purposely misconstrued as the truth.

 

But then I'm scratching my head as to why Heather let Tamra off the hook by saying she didn't think Tamra was trying to stir up trouble.  That's denial Heather, because when someone gossips and lies, not just embellishes, but lies, and then denies every saying such a thing, there is nothing innocuous about that.

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Not to defend Meghan, because I can find nothing thus far to like about her, but she says in her blog that she is extremely embarrassed about contacting Brook's ex-girlfriend. Could be just the heat she has gotten this season, but I will give her points for at least admitting to that.

The problem with Meghan is she didn't apologize to Brooks or admit she was dead wrong-she did the opposite and said she would continue to ask questions about cancer until there was a cure.  So she may now be embarrassed but she is still giving interviews and what not claiming he does not have cancer.  So I question the statement in her blog.  I do think Meghan would have moved on to Brooks children and his parents.

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I think one has to consider the big picture with Meg's going after Brooks 'cancer'.  Meg is coming from a place where Vicki had no problem expressing her opinion on Meg as a person and her marriage to Jim which was none of Vicki's business.  So, why shouldn't Meg express her feelings (especially given Brook's 'history') regarding Vicki's storyline regarding Brook's cancer?  I guess I don't have as much vitriol regarding Meg because I've watched Vicki's actions for the last ten seasons.  Vicki has been the biggest hypocrite followed by Tamra (ok, that's debatable).  I just don't have any sympathy for any of them. 

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So Shannon told Heather and Meghan that Vicki asked her for help when Brooks was diagnosed.

 

Vicki told Tamra that she did not ask Shannon for help.

 

Who's lying?  And why?

 

Here is my idea of this situation.

 

Vicki found out Brooks had cancer so being upset she decided to call a friend to cry. During the phone call Vicki said to Shannon that she needs, wants, help with the situation. Shannon takes that to mean, medical help, so she offers and Vicki doesn't turn her down. However, neither of them asks Brooks if it's alright with him. So he kind of goes along with it so he doesn't look ungrateful, but he really doesn't want to see another doctor, so he makes the tire excuse to get out of it. 

 

Now, Vicki's perception of the conversation is that Shannon offered the help with the doctor, and Shannon's is that Vicki asked her for help. Either way, Brooks didn't want the help but didn't want to say it. 

 

Probably not what actually happened. 

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I have to admit, I did love the part of the confrontation between Brooks and Meghan, when Meghan turned to Vicki and said, "You said I was a terrible person." And Vicki, nodded, and said, "You are.", like, duh.  It was so beautifully calm and straight-faced that I think it was the first time ever that I sincerely enjoyed Vicki.

 

What was astounding to me was that her husband didn't say one word in answer to that. If someone said that to me, even if it were true and I was in the wrong, my husband would have defended me in front of that person. The whole time Meghan was trying to call out Vicki on the things she said to her and Vicki said yup, that's what I said, Jim didn't even flinch. 

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I can't even imagine the most horrible person that ever lived might fake cancer in order to.....to what?  To gain sympathy? To get attention? Why would anyone, especially on a reality show, fake cancer? It's a sure thing that the truth will prevail eventually and people would be condemned and hated. It would make them out to be the most vile, deceitful and horrible person in the world.

 

Sadly this does happen in real life. People have gone to prison for scammimg other out of money by having fundraisers to help pay for their "cancer" treatments. What's even worse, beyond contemptable, are those individuals who fake their BABY OR CHILD having cancer to scam money. There are also those who fake cancer because they are emotionally disturbed and need the attention and sympathy. So yeah, this actually does happen and these kinds of horrible people do actually exist in RL.

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Jim saying to Meghan, "You're waving at no one" followed by Meghan's shrugging her shoulders in her talking head interview may be the greatest thing I've ever seen on this show.

I'm new to this and am not sure what I'm doing with the quoting thing....I was trying to agree with you, Blogger Aloud. Oh man, I laughed when he said that! Meghan is a psychotic mess to call Brooks Dr AND to contact his ex?!! What a freak.

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I'm new to this and am not sure what I'm doing with the quoting thing....I was trying to agree with you, Blogger Aloud. Oh man, I laughed when he said that! Meghan is a psychotic mess to call Brooks Dr AND to contact his ex?!! What a freak.

WELCOME to the Forum CreamedPeas. Enjoy reading and posting! Lots of laughs can be found among these pages...lots of snark also, lol!

Ditto Meghan sure is a psychotic mess!

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Yeah could be. I could see that happening. I wanna believe Brooks because I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt in these situations, I don't wanna just jump to the conclusion that he's lying without concrete proof. 

 

But I have to admit, I see WHY people think he's lying. 

 

Here is my idea of this situation.

 

Vicki found out Brooks had cancer so being upset she decided to call a friend to cry. During the phone call Vicki said to Shannon that she needs, wants, help with the situation. Shannon takes that to mean, medical help, so she offers and Vicki doesn't turn her down. However, neither of them asks Brooks if it's alright with him. So he kind of goes along with it so he doesn't look ungrateful, but he really doesn't want to see another doctor, so he makes the tire excuse to get out of it. 

 

Now, Vicki's perception of the conversation is that Shannon offered the help with the doctor, and Shannon's is that Vicki asked her for help. Either way, Brooks didn't want the help but didn't want to say it. 

 

Probably not what actually happened. 

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I think it's more like, familiarity breeds contempt...you know how, when you first start seeing someone, their flaws seem more minor or less annoying because you don't know them overly well or don't see the problems they cause yet? But then, as the relationship progresses to 6 months, a year and so on, you're like, "oh no, not this bullshit again...I know where this is leading and I can't deal with it again..." 

 

Especially for someone like Jim. I agree that Megan is nuts, but Jim's now on his 3rd marriage, so he likely sucks at long-term relationships. I think Jim is the type that starts out really charming and falls in lust at first, then after 6 months or so, he starts to get sick of you and get really critical and find a million things about you he doesn't like/respect (and in Megan, there are quite a few). 

 

Even though she's nuts, I don't like the way he treats her. "You need to stop it, now...because I said so!" "I can do what I want!" "Zip it!" He seems very contemptuous and impatient with her. 

 

I think he married her as a trophy wife, but can't stand her personality. But he doesn't get any sympathy from me - he shouldn't have married her. 

I have a co-worker who is a very pretty woman, but has had nothing but very short term boyfriends in the 10 years that we've worked together.  I finally figured out why one day when I overheard her on the phone with her then current boyfriend.  She was playing stupid and giggling like a school girl at everything he said.  That is SO NOT this person.  She is far more on the bitch side of the scale than the sweet side.  It all made sense then - she can only maintain the girly girl facade for so long and when that cracks they break up.

 

All this to say - I think Meghan probably acted like some nice, no drama, I-like-sports-and-drinking-beers-and-just-hanging-out low maintenance girl when she met Jim.  And she snared him.  And now her shit stirring ways are coming out and he feels tricked.

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I give that marriage one more year at most. Which is about 6 mos. longer than I give Ryan and his baby making machine.

For some reason this made me think back to a few seasons ago when Ryan showed Tamra his stupid tattoo 'Nugget'--the one inside his lower lip and explained that it was to commemorate the miscarriage his then GF had, losing their baby to be--their lil Nugget. Tamra, of course, flipped out. I suspect that, on some level he wanted a baby--one of those 'I want someone who will love me and who I can love' things. Then the reality of diapers, 2 AM feedings, crying and bills hit home and it was a serious case of Holy Crap!--didn't expect this, get me outta here! No sympathy from me--immature jerk. Grow the hell up and deal with your responsibilities and the baby who will be around a lot longer than you will. By law she's your responsibility for at least the next 18 years. Does he even have a job at this point? And yep--hen and his baby mama (and I hate that expression but nothing else seems to fit) won't last.

 

A poster upthread (sorry, forget who) mentioned that Brianna couldn't comment on Brooks looking healthy because she hadn't seen him in however long. But she probably has seen him--every week on her TV. I'm not defending her or condemning her; I'm just saying.

 

And I'm on board with the fact that this season isn't pleasant or fun TV. We're all used to the fake/scripted drama and fights here but cancer, real or not, isn't food for entertainment. Meghan is simply vile and possibly nuts in her determination for screen time and her holy crusade to out Brooks as a lying liar. It's not funny or opening any plotlines other than she needs to zip it. Her relationship with her husband is painful to see and I want her to go away.

 

This show and it's producers reek of desperation.

 

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I think one has to consider the big picture with Meg's going after Brooks 'cancer'.  Meg is coming from a place where Vicki had no problem expressing her opinion on Meg as a person and her marriage to Jim which was none of Vicki's business.  So, why shouldn't Meg express her feelings (especially given Brook's 'history') regarding Vicki's storyline regarding Brook's cancer?  I guess I don't have as much vitriol regarding Meg because I've watched Vicki's actions for the last ten seasons.  Vicki has been the biggest hypocrite followed by Tamra (ok, that's debatable).  I just don't have any sympathy for any of them. 

 

The big picture though is that Mehgan brought her marriage and child rearing to Vicki as though she expected sympathy. You can't bring that type of thing to a person and then go all "REVENGE" against them because you didn't like their opinion. Especially, when the revenge is going after a third unrelated party. That is is completely irrational and downright scary behavior. Everyone on this show is a hypocrite, so I don't even factor that in anymore. it is just a standard personality trait of a Real Housewife. Even if they aren't a hypocrite, production is always going to find a way to show them contradicting themselves, so that becomes a wash to me. 

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The big picture though is that Mehgan brought her marriage and child rearing to Vicki as though she expected sympathy. You can't bring that type of thing to a person and then go all "REVENGE" against them because you didn't like their opinion. Especially, when the revenge is going after a third unrelated party. That is is completely irrational and downright scary behavior. Everyone on this show is a hypocrite, so I don't even factor that in anymore. it is just a standard personality trait of a Real Housewife. Even if they aren't a hypocrite, production is always going to find a way to show them contradicting themselves, so that becomes a wash to me. 

As several here have pointed out, Meghan is no newbie to "Reality TV", so I am sure she studied up on the OC show before she began filming. She is following Vicki's and Tamra's methods of securing her Bravo job by bringing it. Without a doubt, she, Meghan is OTT and nasty but so are Vicki/Tamra and Vicki and Tamra are still on the show because of their OTT/nasty behavior, so IMO, Meghan is trying to secure her role on the show but acting like they did/do. Both Vicki and Tamra need to be careful, Meghan just might be the replacement for 1 or both of them because neither of them really have anything "new" left to show us. LOL

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My guess is screen time.

 

Ha.  I think we can just copy and paste this response to 75% of the questions that are asked here regarding a housewife's "motive" --- even my own question yesterday about why Megan was waving at nobody!

 

Sarah looked beautiful at Shannon's party. Way out of Ryan's league.  She may have multiple baby daddies but being with Ryan isn't 'marrying up'.

 

 

She is a very attractive woman.  The fact that Ryan is hesitant to marry her reminds me of that quote from Seinfeld to Uncle Leo (snipped for pertinence).

 

Look at you, you're disgusting. If there's a woman that can take your presence for more than ten consecutive seconds, you should hang on to her like grim death!

 

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I don't know how the ads on this forum work....if everyone gets the same ads or if they are customized...but as I was reading posts here, I had to chuckle when I saw an ad for the Kate Spade 'Zip It' handbag!!  I immediately thought of Jim...Jim Edmonds telling Meghan to 'zip it'!  

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It's all in good fun, believe me! I happen to think Derek Jeter was the ultimate good will ambassador for the team. Everyone wants to challenge the Empire. After all, most of the fun in a Red Sox vs. Yankees game is the trash talk. Remember Billy Martin?! I love David Ortiz and it's clear he's buddies with guys from other teams, including the damn Yankees! All in good spirit coming from most Red Sox fans. (There's crazies in every club)

There are shirts, mugs, hats that say Yankees Sucks, originally created by a troubled college student in Boston but was smart enough to try to bootleg T-shirts on the street. Another words again, just trash talk for the hype factor.

And as an Oakland Athletics fan, I hate the Red Sox and Yankees!

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Am a crazy, but didn't Vicki say before that she has been to Chemo for Brooks?

I thought that was interesting.

Meghan needs her ass whooped. She needs to mind her bidness.

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SO...let me get this straight.....in order to prove someone doesn't have cancer you call his doctor and LIE about having cancer? WTF??? I've caught heat for calling Megan a child but this is some childish f'ed up behavior. Reminds me of kids who call the school pretending to be Mom or Dad and saying their kid is sick so they can skip school. CHILDISH....Then she calls and ex??? WOW NO boundaries on that one. Seriously, this should be on Hot Wives of Vegas that's how stupid it is. And because I say i every dam week...SHUT UP MEGAN.

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