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Not the point I was trying to make...Kristen didn't even ever have to say the name they chose. I'm talking about exposure that she is going to have a nail polish line.

If they filed for the trademark in Sept 2014....then they had already been in works prior to this date on the nail polish itself. Prototypes and samples should have already been available to Kristen. All she had to do was have them painted on her nails flashing them in all of the scenes she was in.

Yes, but maybe prototypes were not ready. Or maybe they didn't have the backers to launch at the time and she didn't want to be humiliated and pull a "Sonja", endlessly talking about something we might not see for a while. Or maybe Bravo didn't show them. Maybe there are hundreds of hours of footage of Kristen wondering around barefoot talking to anyone who brushes up against her about her nail polish. Maybe that is why we have seen her say roughly 3 dozen words this season. Maybe after they edited out her hands, her feet, and her endless talk about nail polish there was nothing left except to show her beautiful face looking frightened/surprised/irritated from time to time. Maybe Bravo thought that after all the Skinnygirl we had to see/hear about we had had enough.

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When Sonja invited everyone at Cupcake to T&C   I totally flashed to Jill Z in season 3 when Ramona invited her and Sonja to St John. This time it was Beth who wouldn't even look up from what she was doing, nor did she accept the invitation. "Who is Going?" was her response. B is just sucking the fun and glamour of this show. JMO   

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Yes, but maybe prototypes were not ready. Or maybe they didn't have the backers to launch at the time and she didn't want to be humiliated and pull a "Sonja", endlessly talking about something we might not see for a while. Or maybe Bravo didn't show them. Maybe there are hundreds of hours of footage of Kristen wondering around barefoot talking to anyone who brushes up against her about her nail polish. Maybe that is why we have seen her say roughly 3 dozen words this season. Maybe after they edited out her hands, her feet, and her endless talk about nail polish there was nothing left except to show her beautiful face looking frightened/surprised/irritated from time to time. Maybe Bravo thought that after all the Skinnygirl we had to see/hear about we had had enough.

I think Bravo realizes Kristen isn't a great draw.  Nail polish or not she is not really regarded as a great businesswoman.  She is a model married to  a self proclaimed "brander".  I am half way expecting their "Mission Statement" to flash on the screen or some other over used marketing tool.

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In one of the clips I've seen...they are all in bikinis, at some point Sonja is screaming at somebody and Bethenny is telling her to shut up...this I take is in T&C.

 

Please please please Bravo, I hope you filmed Ramona swimming in the ocean, clinging to one of her floaty noodles while muttering like Rain Man.....I'm such a good swim-ma now, I'm so much more relaxed and zen, I'm renewed, renewed, where are the hot guys?

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Yes, but maybe prototypes were not ready. Or maybe they didn't have the backers to launch at the time and she didn't want to be humiliated and pull a "Sonja", endlessly talking about something we might not see for a while. Or maybe Bravo didn't show them. Maybe there are hundreds of hours of footage of Kristen wondering around barefoot talking to anyone who brushes up against her about her nail polish. Maybe that is why we have seen her say roughly 3 dozen words this season. Maybe after they edited out her hands, her feet, and her endless talk about nail polish there was nothing left except to show her beautiful face looking frightened/surprised/irritated from time to time. Maybe Bravo thought that after all the Skinnygirl we had to see/hear about we had had enough.

Maybe there are are 100 hours of footage of Kristen but it's unusable. Maybe Kristen is so boring that she causes instant narcolepsy to the camera crew. So there is footage of sound and the video shows the floor. Maybe there are hours of fllm where the camera used was on a tripod but it's still unusable because the sound of snoring can be heard in the background.

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I think this is very likely.

Maybe there are are 100 hours of footage of Kristen but it's unusable. Maybe Kristen is so boring that she causes instant narcolepsy to the camera crew. So there is footage of sound and the video shows the floor. Maybe there are hours of fllm where the camera used was on a tripod but it's still unusable because the sound of snoring can be heard in the background.

I think this is very likely. For the most part, she doesn't interest me much. I don't dislike her, she just kind of bores me.

I have grown cynical about believing that Bravo knows what is boring or what we want for the most part. Every single segment of the BH lost footage episode was more interesting than almost anything we saw during the season. The very idea that Yo was house hunting and no one said "boo" about it all season still irks me. Anyone who wouldn't prefer to see a rich, stylish HW show us house porn with the husband of another HW who is a legitimately big deal in his industry, instead of Brandi and her Pod Cast, or pathetic Kim Richards and her myriad of denials and issues? You might be able to cobble together 10% of the audience at the most who would prefer what we got over what we could have had.

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I wonder if Heather and Kristen couldn't come to the cupcake deal, or if Beth didn't invite them? Seems like the girls with the younger kids would have really enjoyed it. Then again, maybe not.

 

Carol wasn't there either.  Or am I imagining that?

 

ETA:  Kristen was with LuAnn or so it seemed. Maybe Bethenny didn't invite them?  

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Carol wasn't there either.  Or am I imagining that?

Nope. Or Lu either. I guess it is true that you cannot invite everyone to everything. It's just interesting to me that the two people that you would think Beth might bond with the most, she is bonding with the least. Both Heather and Kristen have younger kids, and they have industry stuff in common (well, Kristen has it through Josh, but even if they only met 5 or so times, it's still a common thread).

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With all the footage for Bethenny Starting Over, there really wasn't much time available to show much of the other women.  Going back to Kris's blog from last week:

 

Red Lion Inn--We all start talking about Bethenny, but what you all don’t realize is that she just wasn’t around much when we were all hanging out. And because Heather and I haven’t gotten to know her yet, at this point we have no idea what’s going on in her private life (I am watching now just like you are), and so we are totally confused as to why she’s back--what does she want from the group? We’ve invited her places, but she can’t/won't come. We are viewing this as not really up for making the effort.

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Nope. Or Lu either. I guess it is true that you cannot invite everyone to everything. It's just interesting to me that the two people that you would think Beth might bond with the most, she is bonding with the least. Both Heather and Kristen have younger kids, and they have industry stuff in common (well, Kristen has it through Josh, but even if they only met 5 or so times, it's still a common thread).

 

You're right about Heather and Kristen having young children but to Bethenny they're "new"  and we've heard her say that she's reluctant to let new people into her life right now.  I think Bethenny feels more comfortable around the others.  She's known them a long time.

 

This topic reminded me of something Kristen said.  I forgot who she was talking to (maybe Carol?) but she was complaining about feeling left out and pushed aside since Bethenny's arrival because they were all such close friends (or something like that).   I'm guessing she doesn't remember that they were all HWs long before she came on the scene.  

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You're right about Heather and Kristen having young children but to Bethenny they're "new"  and we've heard her say that she's reluctant to let new people into her life right now.  I think Bethenny feels more comfortable around the others.  She's known them a long time.

 

This topic reminded me of something Kristen said.  I forgot who she was talking to (maybe Carol?) but she was complaining about feeling left out and pushed aside since Bethenny's arrival because they were all such close friends (or something like that).   I'm guessing she doesn't remember that they were all HWs long before she came on the scene.  

The problem with that is , they were not good friends by that point in time. Bethenny had turned her back on all her NY HW co-stars and didn't associate with them at all except an occasional guest appearance on her talk show. She did not trust any of these women but decided to align with the known devil(s) because she didn't want to get to know women her own age and with children IMO, because both Heather/Kristen are married. They are the reminder of her own failed marriage.JMO

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The problem with that is , they were not good friends by that point in time. Bethenny had turned her back on all her NY HW co-stars and didn't associate with them at all except an occasional guest appearance on her talk show. She did not trust any of these women but decided to align with the known devil(s) because she didn't want to get to know women her own age and with children IMO, because both Heather/Kristen are married. They are the reminder of her own failed marriage.JMO

 

I didn't mean that Bethenny was "good friends" with the others.  Kristen was saying that the group, including herself (without Bethenny) were so close and now they're shutting her out.

 

I'm not so sure that married women with children are such a sore spot to Bethenny.  I think she knew from the beginning that marriage wasn't right for her but she did it anyway.

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. She did not trust any of these women but decided to align with the known devil(s) because she didn't want to get to know women her own age and with children IMO, because both Heather/Kristen are married. They are the reminder of her own failed marriage.JMO

 

Ouch.

 

I watched a clip of Kristen's visit to Access Hollywood a few weeks ago.  When the topic of Bethenny's mistreatment of Kristen came up, Billy and the hostess said in plain English they think Bethenny is jealous of Kristen. For her part, Kristen laughed it off. 

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I'm not so sure that married women with children are such a sore spot to Bethenny.  I think she knew from the beginning that marriage wasn't right for her but she did it anyway.

I agree, I always got that feeling when it came to her marriage. 

Regardless of how well Kristen's nail polish line does, I'm pretty sure Josh feels like he scored big - he's got her out of his hair with both her blog and her new business venture.  Now he has more time for hat shopping.

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I didn't mean that Bethenny was "good friends" with the others.  Kristen was saying that the group, including herself (without Bethenny) were so close and now they're shutting her out.

 

I'm not so sure that married women with children are such a sore spot to Bethenny.  I think she knew from the beginning that marriage wasn't right for her but she did it anyway.

I do think it is telling that Bethenny shut out the only 2 married HW's on the cast, very telling. JMO

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I agree, I always got that feeling when it came to her marriage. 

 

 

Yeah.  That's how I felt after watching her prepare for the wedding.    I think she always knew it wasn't right but married the father of the baby.   Bethenny is more upset over the custody problems she had and what appears to be an ineffective pre-nup.

 

I do think it is telling that Bethenny shut out the only 2 married HW's on the cast, very telling. JMO

 

It's possible but I really don't think so.  Kristen is irrelevant and Heather is another Type A personality and just too damn pushy for Bethenny.

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Really, I do not feel like listening to anyone past their teens whining about being uncomfortable meeting new people. As normal adults, it occurs all of the time. It even involves ASSOCIATING with these new people. Be it--involvement in the capacity as a parent in school functions, being a part of an organization in which one enjoys or an organization for which one has a zeal and passion. And, yes, dealing with new people may involve a JOB especially one that you greedily accepted.

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Really, I do not feel like listening to anyone past their teens whining about being uncomfortable meeting new people. 

 

I don't think meeting new people is the issue.  Bethenny is good at that.   She's not good at letting people into her life and especially unwilling to let new people into her life.  I don't have a problem with that.   This isn't a good time for her and new people (like Heather) pushing their way in are bound to meet resistance.

Then she needs to forgo reality shows that give the APPEARANCE of sharing your life. Just S-T-O-P whinging about the unfairness of it all.

 

I can't remember ever hearing her say that it was unfair.  

 

I would like to see her stop crying too but I don't think all of it is real.  It will stop when production decides to change her narrative.

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All I am saying is that her husband knows about marketing and using the HW show to get your stuff on. He wore eboost hats, tshirts, had items placed in their apartment scenes - and this is his business...he's not even a housewife.

So her product is nail polish. You don't want to pay Bravo for product placement or pay them with a percentage of future sales...there's still a way to get exposure.

Like Ramona...with her Pinot Grigio...she always has a bottle or case to pull out of somewhere...she does it so much a couple of scenes Bravo lets slide through.

 

Her scene in AC pointing out her 2 different colored shoes...Bravo kept that clip in...why not wear 2 different colored sandals that expose your toes that have your nail polish on them.

Her scene with Bethenny at Blackjack with the Elvis fan...perfect opportunity...I love Elvis...especially Elvis Blue - oops make that Bluemoon.

Her scene with her maid...as she contemplates what to do with the meal the maid cooked she could have been strumming her fingers over her lips in a contemplative mood.

Her scene at AOA - there were several shots of her standing alone....she is a MODEL....she knows how to work angles and light...she could have posed in angry mode with hands/nails showing.

 

It doesn't matter if the other housewives show their hands more or less, it is Kristen who is trying to launch a business of polish.

She really should have taken those long gloves off at the formal dress up party in the Berkshires to show off her pretty nails.

Oh, wait....that was the Countess.

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You're right about Heather and Kristen having young children but to Bethenny they're "new"  and we've heard her say that she's reluctant to let new people into her life right now.  I think Bethenny feels more comfortable around the others.  She's known them a long time.

 

This topic reminded me of something Kristen said.  I forgot who she was talking to (maybe Carol?) but she was complaining about feeling left out and pushed aside since Bethenny's arrival because they were all such close friends (or something like that).   I'm guessing she doesn't remember that they were all HWs long before she came on the scene.  

She was talking to Carole...she said I feel exed out...I feel boxed out...Carole dropped the you're dumb bomb...and walked away. Bwahahahaha

 

I'm also confused as to whom she feels exed out by....the whole group or just Bethenny.

Probably the film crew...they must run when they see her

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I didn't mean that Bethenny was "good friends" with the others.  Kristen was saying that the group, including herself (without Bethenny) were so close and now they're shutting her out.

 

I'm not so sure that married women with children are such a sore spot to Bethenny.  I think she knew from the beginning that marriage wasn't right for her but she did it anyway.

That's what I thought she was saying too...that she was feeling like ALL of the HW were shutting her out.

 

That's why I busted out laughing when Carole walked away from her

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She was talking to Carole...she said I feel exed out...I feel boxed out...Carole dropped the you're dumb bomb...and walked away. Bwahahahaha

I'm also confused as to whom she feels exed out by....the whole group or just Bethenny.

Probably the film crew...they must run when they see her

I'm going to need to rewatch. I don't recall that part with Carole, but I was multitasking so I might have missed it. I do remember Kristen talking to Lu when they were shoe shopping in the First Look. She talked about how Beth was being a bit exclusive in who she wanted to get close too, and since they were all such close friends it felt a bit wrong. Edited by motorcitymom65
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I didn't mean that Bethenny was "good friends" with the others. Kristen was saying that the group, including herself (without Bethenny) were so close and now they're shutting her out.

I'm not so sure that married women with children are such a sore spot to Bethenny. I think she knew from the beginning that marriage wasn't right for her but she did it anyway.

Imo I took the, "we're all good friends" as code for, we're all on this show together and have to interact, and we all know this.

I have no real interest in Kristen, but I understand her frustration with Beth. And not even trying to get to know her. It's pretty obvious Beth only wants to run the show her way. I'd be cool with that irl. Nobody should be around people they don't like, but this is not real life, this a reality show they all agreed to be on and interact.

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Just watched the sneak peak of the new episode and had to google Downtown Julie Brown.  I knew she was a DJ but wanted to make sure I understood the reference.

Well,  I came across the top definition of Downtown Julie Brown on Urban Dictionary and.... yuck.  

 

I am going to edit this to avoid someone thinking I actually believe Bethy's reference was the one in Urban Dictionary.  I am not the sharpest tool in the toolshed but at least I ....ummmm....errrrr.....can run my own business! lol

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Yes, but maybe prototypes were not ready. Or maybe they didn't have the backers to launch at the time and she didn't want to be humiliated and pull a "Sonja", endlessly talking about something we might not see for a while. Or maybe Bravo didn't show them. Maybe there are hundreds of hours of footage of Kristen wondering around barefoot talking to anyone who brushes up against her about her nail polish. Maybe that is why we have seen her say roughly 3 dozen words this season. Maybe after they edited out her hands, her feet, and her endless talk about nail polish there was nothing left except to show her beautiful face looking frightened/surprised/irritated from time to time. Maybe Bravo thought that after all the Skinnygirl we had to see/hear about we had had enough.

I might be way off here but this season I have seen Kristen do one product promotion (the nail polish naming session) and I think Lu does a photo shoot promotion for her clothing line.  Is it possible that they are each allowed one such promotion a season?  Except for Bethy .  

 

I get the feeling some poor employee is tasked with lugging around SG products to every other scene.  

 

Where are those SkinnyGirl  Chia Pets, dammit!    ;)  

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I might be way off here but this season I have seen Kristen do one product promotion (the nail polish naming session) and I think Lu does a photo shoot promotion for her clothing line.  Is it possible that they are each allowed one such promotion a season?  Except for Bethy .  

 

I get the feeling some poor employee is tasked with lugging around SG products to every other scene.  

 

Where are those SkinnyGirl  Chia Pets, dammit!    ;)  

Ramona is sly like a touretsy fox....she promotes her Pinot without paying Bravo

 

She bought a bottle over to Dorinda's for lunch early in the season

She bought a case of it to Dorinda's in the Berkshires along with the yellow roses

She has her bottle clearly shown at AOA

Bethenny says I'll have both...a vodka and your Ramona wine

She brings a bottle to the cupcake decorating

Bethenny talks about it in her TH...I do think she mentioned this even though it looks like she's dissing Ramona,,.to help Ramona promote her Pinot.

 

Ramona does this every season...she also makes it a point when she is on WWHL to hold up her glass and say I'm having my Pinot Grigio

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This is only my second season of NY, so I was spared the Bethenny years.  I was aware of her, like I am aware of Mrsa.  I don't know much about it, but?  I know it is VERY bad!!! Her theatrics are wearing very thin very fast.  If you do not want your issues on display for public consumption??  Stay away from reality TV.  Every time she is on my screen, sobbing about this or that, I just want to bust out my "tiny violin of sorrows" for her and play it with passion.  Girl?  Bye!!  You annoy the ever living fuck out of me.

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The Urban Dictionary meaning is not what Bethenny was referring to. It was the vegetable that Yolanda didn't understand in the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

 

And I don't mean Kim Richards.

LOL LOL

You have a way with linguistics that is very cunning!

Your black heart made me remember that episode of RHOBH

I forgive you  ;)

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Ramona is sly like a touretsy fox....she promotes her Pinot without paying Bravo

 

She bought a bottle over to Dorinda's for lunch early in the season

She bought a case of it to Dorinda's in the Berkshires along with the yellow roses

She has her bottle clearly shown at AOA

Bethenny says I'll have both...a vodka and your Ramona wine

She brings a bottle to the cupcake decorating

Bethenny talks about it in her TH...I do think she mentioned this even though it looks like she's dissing Ramona,,.to help Ramona promote her Pinot.

 

Ramona does this every season...she also makes it a point when she is on WWHL to hold up her glass and say I'm having my Pinot Grigio

Shame on you for writing that Ramoaner is so blatant!  ;)  lol

 

BTW I listened to that Watch What Crappens that you suggested.  Thanks!  I laughed a LOT.

 

Stuff like:

 

Heather is a fixer?  What the heck has Heather ever fixed?  She saw Spanx and said "I don't like those so I fixed them and made Yummy!'

 

Door In Dah comes into the place wearing the fur she got for her kindergarten graduation present!

 

The steakhouse waiter approaches Bethy and asks for her order.  Bethy says, who are you?  I don't know you.  Why are you asking me what I want?  If I tell you what I want, I will be on the floor , sobbing!  I don't know you!  I want a wall up!  I want some water, I used to drink water but Jason stole my water filter!  Give me the customer survey card, I am going to write "I don't know you!'

 

I paraphrase because I did not take notes!

 

It was hilarious!  Thanks, again, I will listen for the next podcast.  I like that they rag on every housewife.

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Just watched the sneak peak of the new episode and had to google Downtown Julie Brown.  I knew she was a DJ but wanted to make sure I understood the reference.

Well,  I came across the top definition of Downtown Julie Brown on Urban Dictionary and.... yuck.  

 

I am going to edit this to avoid someone thinking I actually believe Bethy's reference was the one in Urban Dictionary.  I am not the sharpest tool in the toolshed but at least I ....ummmm....errrrr.....can run my own business! lol

I'm going to take a guess at what happened in that bizarre little conversation.  Carole mentions the sex dream, and then instead of saying "Did we go down on each other?" Bethenny has to be cute and tragically "hep" and say "Did we go downtown on each other?"  Which still legitimately means did they have oral sex.  But then she has to throw in every bit of accessory jargon from the '80s and not settle for just "downtown"--it has to be "Downtown Julie Brown."  Which then both makes no sense but also makes her look like a raving lunatic who speaks only in prepackaged phrase-bits that lost any meaning thirty years ago.

 

Now, if she'd said something like "So did we go Downton Abbey and get all grabby with each other?" that would at least have been more current and still give you the rhyme.  I have no idea what it means, but I kept typing "Downton" when I wanted to type "Downtown," so I thought I'd throw it in as an option.  As one does.  Or as Bethenny does.

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Shame on you for writing that Ramoaner is so blatant!  ;)  lol

 

BTW I listened to that Watch What Crappens that you suggested.  Thanks!  I laughed a LOT.

 

Stuff like:

 

Heather is a fixer?  What the heck has Heather ever fixed?  She saw Spanx and said "I don't like those so I fixed them and made Yummy!'

 

Door In Dah comes into the place wearing the fur she got for her kindergarten graduation present!

 

The steakhouse waiter approaches Bethy and asks for her order.  Bethy says, who are you?  I don't know you.  Why are you asking me what I want?  If I tell you what I want, I will be on the floor , sobbing!  I don't know you!  I want a wall up!  I want some water, I used to drink water but Jason stole my water filter!  Give me the customer survey card, I am going to write "I don't know you!'

 

I paraphrase because I did not take notes!

 

It was hilarious!  Thanks, again, I will listen for the next podcast.  I like that they rag on every housewife.

Ramona is my little Rain Man...I'm renewed renewed I tell you...breath

 

I am so happy you enjoyed their podcast!!  : )

 

I love their Dorinda impression...did you ever watch the cartoon the Jetsons? They do Dorinda's voice as a combination of Irene The Robotmaid/Carmela Soprano

 

Bethenny talks like Woody Allen in Bananas

 

And yes they make fun of all of the HW's

 

There are 2 podcasts a week..I'm not sure if you watch any other Bravo shows...but they cover Shahs, OC, Married to Medicine, Kandi's Ski Trip, Southern Charm, Vanderpump Rules, etc.

 

Ben - lives in the building next to MJ from Shahs and whenever you hear a truck backing up or a plane fly over....Ben will say oh here comes MJ's delivery of Sliders. If you watch their show you would get the reference

 

Ronnie - blogs for TrashtalkTV.

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Just watched the sneak peak of the new episode and had to google Downtown Julie Brown. I knew she was a DJ but wanted to make sure I understood the reference.

Well, I came across the top definition of Downtown Julie Brown on Urban Dictionary and.... yuck.

I am going to edit this to avoid someone thinking I actually believe Bethy's reference was the one in Urban Dictionary. I am not the sharpest tool in the toolshed but at least I ....ummmm....errrrr.....can run my own business! lol

Beth and Brandi are in the same league how they try to be so hip with the younger audience by pulling random urban slang and references out in an attempt to be cool. Im sure half the stuff they say they have no clue the definitions are.

I mean Carole and Bethenny being scissor sisters is rubbing two sticks together. It might start a fire but it sure ain't hot! Just sayn'

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I am so sick of Carole trying to be edgy, the whole sex dream thing.

Carole! Fetch is just not going to happen! Uggggh!

It was especially silly, because Carole's implication was that Bethenny was so tightly wound she needed to get laid, and appearently Carole helped her with an orgasm. Considering Beth had an ongoing boyfriend at the time, she was presumedly getting all the sex she needed.

Just more of Carole's new persona of the sex kitten.

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It was especially silly, because Carole's implication was that Bethenny was so tightly wound she needed to get laid, and appearently Carole helped her with an orgasm. Considering Beth had an ongoing boyfriend at the time, she was presumedly getting all the sex she needed.

Just more of Carole's new persona of the sex kitten.

True, but they are all playing along that she doesn't have a boyfriend.

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Wondering if Beth realizes she "ruined" Atlantic City trip? She was rude, late, peed on the side of the road, told Heather she can shove it up her arse for being 51 minutes late, continued the Heather bashing at the dinner table, took a jab at Carole by saying "any chance someone can give a dig" called the group a real nasty bunch of b*tches , made Sonja cry..... Shouldn't the rest of the cast be the ones looking down their nose at her, as if she should be invited or not? Why is it the reverse??


True, but they are all playing along that she doesn't have a boyfriend.

I am wondering why these women are "pretending"..no one pretended for Kelly season 2(they called her out all season)

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